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Updated: Norwegian to start CDG - AUS in May 2020

Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:05 am

https://twitter.com/AUStinAirport/statu ... 3283636224

Tomorrow.
10 a.m.
We have big news...


Either we'll be significantly underwhelmed as we are many times, or this is something good.

Korean Air?
Delta international route?
One of those listed cities on AUS' recent incentive program? (BJS, DUB, CDG, ICN, PVG, TYO)

Korean Air is supposedly downgauging to the 789 on ICN-DFW in October 2020... perhaps making way for AUS capacity? Although, would an Asian airline have a joint announcement when it's night for them?
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:32 am

Could it be FAA approval of the new midfield concourse with an estimated construction start date?
 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:46 am

Via Air is being restarted.. lol
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:58 am

AUS-SAT 20 daily on a C402 run by 9K as their new birds take other routes
That feeling when you sit at the end of a runway, brakes are released and the raw power takes over. Now that is a thing of beauty and it never gets old.
 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:11 am

It seems that when we have one of these vague tweets it's either an ulcc announcement, G4/F9 or something like the now infamous 5K. If it's something really big, there's usually a more formal notice, mayor x and director y will be welcoming special guests type of thing.
 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:56 am

Austin to Honolulu is 3764 miles. Perhaps Hawaiian Airlines is going to use one of their A330s to fly to Austin on the off-chance that everyone in Austin doesn't want to vacation in Cancun.

I would be surprised if it is something from their wish list:
Asia: BJS, ICN, PVG, TYO Europe: DUB, CDG

Spirit Airlines Cancún (begins February 26, 2020)
Southwest Airlines Seasonal: Cancún, San José del Cabo
Sun Country Airlines Seasonal: Cancún
United Airlines Seasonal: Cancún
Aeroméxico Connect Mexico City
WestJet Seasonal: Calgary
Air Canada Express Toronto–Pearson
British Airways London–Heathrow
Norwegian Air Shuttle Seasonal: London–Gatwick
Lufthansa Frankfurt
KLM Amsterdam (begins May 4, 2020)
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 5:58 am

New crew base for Delta or NK.
 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:40 am

BanjoYoshi wrote:
New crew base for Delta or NK.


Why would Delta open a crew base in AUS? Or NK even, for that matter.
 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:44 am

Here it is: Norwegian to launch Paris CDG – Austin service from May 6, 2020.

Okay, probably it's more than just this :lol:.

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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 6:46 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Here it is: Norwegian to launch Paris CDG – Austin service from May 6, 2020 :lol:

Airlineroute


Unconfirmed if this is the big announcement, but it's highly likely at this point. Sort of surprised airlineroute was able to pick up on it quickly.

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 7634865152
 
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Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:40 am

Norwegian is launching 3x weekly service between CDG and AUS with 787-9, from May 6th 2020. To be reduced to 2x weekly from September 25th.

Not a route I actually saw coming

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -may-2020/

DY7185 CDG1030 – 1400AUS 789 357
DY7186 AUS1600 – 0815+1CDG 789 357

Service operates Day 57 from 25SEP20.
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:58 am

Trying to beat Air France to it. After KLM has launched Amsterdam - Austin, it was to be expected that Air France would launch Paris - Austin. But if Norwegian would be there before....
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:03 pm

Someone wants to lose money, badly.
Good luck going against the DL/KL/AF JV. It's only a matter of time until AF announces CDG-AUS now.
Just like at PVD I expect them to stay on the route only as long as the incentives last.
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:11 pm

I don’t see AF launching CDG-AUS. Everything I’ve read suggests that AF struggles at DFW. How can they make a smaller market like AUS work. AUS is quickly becoming overserved to EU. BA, DY (LGW & CDG) LH and KL??
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:17 pm

clrd4t8koff wrote:
I don’t see AF launching CDG-AUS. Everything I’ve read suggests that AF struggles at DFW. How can they make a smaller market like AUS work.


Well, there's the absence of AA non-stop competition...

It gets down to the willingness of Austinites to pay a premium for non-stop. Businesses may. Leisure and government travelers are less likely to do so.
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:59 pm

AF can get connection traffic to Africa and Asia (India, etc), while Norwegian has to rely only on O & D and some European connections. So AF flight may work better than Norwegian, that is if they launch it.
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:07 pm

airbazar wrote:
Someone wants to lose money, badly.
Good luck going against the DL/KL/AF JV. It's only a matter of time until AF announces CDG-AUS now.
Just like at PVD I expect them to stay on the route only as long as the incentives last.


And yet at BOS they already go up against DL and AF who combined will be 4 daily next summer and see no signs of retrenchment, yet!
No doubt it will be tough, but you have to start somewhere and currently this route is unopposed.

You may be right, but you have to give it a chance.
That feeling when you sit at the end of a runway, brakes are released and the raw power takes over. Now that is a thing of beauty and it never gets old.
 
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Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:26 pm

Did I miss an AF/DL announcement of an imminent start of CDG-AUS flights? I see numerous comments of AF/DL killing Norwegian off the route, yet AF has not launched Austin flights. Is this AF CDG-AUS flight in the same category as AMS-RDU? Anetters claim it’s a given, it just takes forever to materialize.




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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:34 pm

Norwegian AUS CDG
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:02 pm

Given ams just got announced and delta lack of point of sale at Austin, I don't know why delta would launch or even do well to Paris. If Dy has anything to worry about, it would be the connection competition from legacy carriers.
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:23 pm

clrd4t8koff wrote:
I don’t see AF launching CDG-AUS. Everything I’ve read suggests that AF struggles at DFW. How can they make a smaller market like AUS work.

KL dropped DFW 2 years ago and about to start flights to AUS, so apparently AUS working when DFW doesn’t isn’t that crazy of an idea.
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Thu Oct 24, 2019 2:32 pm

VS4ever wrote:
airbazar wrote:
Someone wants to lose money, badly.
Good luck going against the DL/KL/AF JV. It's only a matter of time until AF announces CDG-AUS now.
Just like at PVD I expect them to stay on the route only as long as the incentives last.


And yet at BOS they already go up against DL and AF who combined will be 4 daily next summer and see no signs of retrenchment, yet!
No doubt it will be tough, but you have to start somewhere and currently this route is unopposed.


BOS is a significantly larger market but still doesn't mean they are making money. In fact I very much doubt their BOS routes are profitable except maybe LGW.
And remind me again exactly what new routes DL/AF/KL/VS are adding/expanding out of BOS? The same routes that DY operates. I don't think that's a coincidence. It's pretty obvious that DL wants to kick DY out of the TATL market. Don't be shocked to see an announcement for CDG-AUS from AF.
 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:19 pm

gdg9 wrote:
Norwegian AUS CDG

If this all holds up, congrats to Austin! The growth just keeps coming, both domestic and intercontinental! Another new int'l carrier on a new route - wow, very impressive.

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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:22 pm

SANFan wrote:
gdg9 wrote:
Norwegian AUS CDG

If this all holds up, congrats to Austin! The growth just keeps coming, both domestic and intercontinental! Another new int'l carrier on a new route - wow, very impressive.

bb


Norwegian’s not a new international carrier for AUS. They already serve LGW.
 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:28 pm

 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Thu Oct 24, 2019 3:46 pm

This is becoming interesting. Now with KL coming from AMS and Norwegian flying both LGW and CDG I wonder if we will soon see moves from DL as SkyTeam member and also JetBlue which is now partnering with Norwegian.
 
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Re: Updated: Norwegian to start CDG - AUS in May 2020

Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:14 am

Nice add. So now AUS has or will have nonstop service to LHR, LGW, CDG, FRA, and AMS? Pretty impressive especially consider that nearby SAT, which has a slightly higher population than AUS, can't even land a flight to BOS or YYZ let alone a transoceanic flight.
 
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Re: Updated: Norwegian to start CDG - AUS in May 2020

Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:25 am

TransWorldOne wrote:
Nice add. So now AUS has or will have nonstop service to LHR, LGW, CDG, FRA, and AMS? Pretty impressive especially consider that nearby SAT, which has a slightly higher population than AUS, can't even land a flight to BOS or YYZ let alone a transoceanic flight.


Certainly is impressive, and really does show the strength of the AUS economy.

As for SAT, these AUS flights at least would give that population some travel options nearby that would not stack up on its own. Just another case of a bigger population not always translating to increased viability of services.
 
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Re: AUS Airport Big Announcement 10/24 10:00 A.M.

Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:05 am

SANFan wrote:
gdg9 wrote:
Norwegian AUS CDG

If this all holds up, congrats to Austin! The growth just keeps coming, both domestic and intercontinental! Another new int'l carrier on a new route - wow, very impressive.

bb

Ooops. Sorry for the mistake. So a new int'l destination for Austin! I'm envious of a fast growing city that is seeming to be pulling ahead of most others in their size-group regarding int'l air service growth! The airport/city must have a very good route development team working out there to land new routes, and new carriers! Very impressive.

bb
 
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Re: Updated: Norwegian to start CDG - AUS in May 2020

Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:36 am

Interesting that they can fly CDG-AUS with zero connections on either end.
Congrats to Austin, so much international wide bodies in such a short time.
 
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Re: Updated: Norwegian to start CDG - AUS in May 2020

Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:07 am

IndianicWorld wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:
Nice add. So now AUS has or will have nonstop service to LHR, LGW, CDG, FRA, and AMS? Pretty impressive especially consider that nearby SAT, which has a slightly higher population than AUS, can't even land a flight to BOS or YYZ let alone a transoceanic flight.


Certainly is impressive, and really does show the strength of the AUS economy.

As for SAT, these AUS flights at least would give that population some travel options nearby that would not stack up on its own. Just another case of a bigger population not always translating to increased viability of services.



Very true. Actually several of my SA friends are excited about this announcement as they already frequently use AUS to fly, even for domestic routes so it's not really an issue for them.
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:55 am

Jetty wrote:
clrd4t8koff wrote:
I don’t see AF launching CDG-AUS. Everything I’ve read suggests that AF struggles at DFW. How can they make a smaller market like AUS work.

KL dropped DFW 2 years ago and about to start flights to AUS, so apparently AUS working when DFW doesn’t isn’t that crazy of an idea.


KL hasn’t even started service to AUS, so how can you say “so apparently AUS working when DFW doesn’t isn’t that crazy of an idea??”

Furthermore - KL served DFW 5x week and is only serving AUS 3x a week, so you can already see they’re not as confident in AUS as they were DFW.
 
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Re: Norwegian to start Paris-Austin

Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:58 am

clrd4t8koff wrote:
Jetty wrote:
clrd4t8koff wrote:
I don’t see AF launching CDG-AUS. Everything I’ve read suggests that AF struggles at DFW. How can they make a smaller market like AUS work.

KL dropped DFW 2 years ago and about to start flights to AUS, so apparently AUS working when DFW doesn’t isn’t that crazy of an idea.


KL hasn’t even started service to AUS, so how can you say “so apparently AUS working when DFW doesn’t isn’t that crazy of an idea??”

I said the idea isn’t crazy, not that it will work. For that the willingness of KL to try AUS In spite of them leaving DFW is all I need to know. They aren’t throwing darts but have surely done their math which is about more than just the larger market.
 
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Re: Updated: Norwegian to start CDG - AUS in May 2020

Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:17 pm

MARSHAL1 wrote:
Interesting that they can fly CDG-AUS with zero connections on either end.
Congrats to Austin, so much international wide bodies in such a short time.


Maybe B6 can make AUS a focus city?

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