In principle, this is why I think a narrow body the size of the 757-300 or 200+ seat range will not work, Airbus is pumping out A321's and will most likely convert a lot of their A320NEO's. The idea of a small widebody between the largest MAX and the smallest 787 should provide enough distinction to allow a premium price to pay for the product. A narrow body 3 x 3 presents to difficult of a challenge to command a premium price, even if it were composite like the 787.
But that appears to be what Boeing has been offering for at least a couple of years and airlines just ordered A321XLRs.
Yes, and airlines are paying premium prices to be in the queue to take delivery of the A321NEO / LR / XLR
You know Stitch, I’m sick to death of this bs “premium” that so many Boeing supporters keep mentioning. At some point you have to actually build aircraft that people want to buy.,..regardless if you get a “premium” or not. Boeing keeps stalling and dithering over “closing the business case” year after year, after year, after year, and never doing anything.
If you cannot recover your R&D and production costs through the Average Sales Price per frame, then you can't be expected to close the business case. And that is what I mean by "charging a premium". I mean if it was just about spending money to spend money, sure Boeing could launch NMA and sell it for a loss just to gain market share in the 200+ seat segment against Airbus, but the stockholders are not going to be thrilled about it and the BoD and C-Suite cannot expect to keep their jobs, much less their bonuses.
But while Boeing continue to dither Airbus is making the A321 a better aircraft and booking orders further destroying the NMA business case, I think that Calhoun is acknowledging that but what exactly Boeing does to get back into this market sector is a mystery at this point. I don't believe that Boeing can afford to allow the MAX to go full cycle it has to be replaced sooner rather than later so that wedges them into a NSA, small enough to replace MAX-8 but big enough to slow the A321 XLR's roll.
It is impossible, I always said that those who think that the 737 will be replaced are wrong and then Calhoun made it clear that the narrowbody will not be replaced before a generation.
So, please take this as saying. Do you really read the articles?
The 737MAX-8 will be the last to be replaced, it is the most optimized in the family, it beats the A320neo with 2 additional rows in addition to having a narrower fuselage than its competitor.
The problem for Boeing was that it was suffocated by the success of the A321neo which proves that the heart of the market is right in the 737MAX-8 and the A321neo.
What was a mistake in 2011, not to have launched a brand new replacement for the 737NG has been corrected by the brand new ultra efficient 737MAX-10 today!
He is a chick and his egg has just hatched. It is a future success for Boeing, because it offers a cascade of seats with an MTOW much lower than the A321neo which is a proxy for the 757 of the same shape. Nothing too magical.
The A321neo just enjoyed a monopoly that was unexpected. This is why, like the 787 and 777 combo against the A350, we will need another proxy for the 757 with a different shape, this time called NMA and which will be The next combo 737MAX / NMA-MK2 = FSA?
In reality the 737MAX is magnificent!
When the regulators have re-certified it, the problems will be behind and what Calhoun says is to focus on a concept that is more suited to the characteristics of the Chinese market.
That is to say, may be less or more freight with a larger or smaller
belly freight , or even non-existent.
It is not me who says it but the articles published for 2 years on the differentiation of the needs were difficult and there Calhoun announces that they made the choice of the Chinese market. It is clearly a strategy that has been put in place and that the NMA-MK1 has been eliminated after comparison and criticism.
It is also possible that the A321neo only corresponds to the American and Western European market, so most certainly one can imagine much more than a 757 proxy of the same shape.
There will be no narrowbody or replacement for the 737 before a generation (dixit Calhoun, not me)...