Sun Country to announce 4 NEW destinations Nov.5

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:23 pm

Via a post on Sun Country’s Instagram, they plan on announcing 4 new destinations all of which to be served from Minneapolis (MSP).

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4P5WoqHIaE ... vdqhua4fma

Any thoughts on what the new destinations could be?

Ishrion · Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:27 pm

Current Sun Country route map for reference: https://www.suncountry.com/route-map

dirtymillennial · Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:38 pm

MSN's social media is teasing "One of our airlines is announcing some incredible new flight locations" on that date as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Ps4kUjHgR/

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:42 pm

dirtymillennial wrote:
MSN's social media is teasing "One of our airlines is announcing some incredible new flight locations" on that date as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Ps4kUjHgR/

That will probably be one of them. Although I find it odd that on their (Sun County) social media post, they say “FOUR NEW DESTINATIONS” (yes it’s all in bold on their post). They emphasized NEW in the post making me and most likely others think they don’t fly to them already at all.

peak86 · Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:44 pm

SyracuseAvGeek wrote:
dirtymillennial wrote:
MSN's social media is teasing "One of our airlines is announcing some incredible new flight locations" on that date as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Ps4kUjHgR/

That will probably be one of them. Although I find it odd that on their (Sun County) social media post, they say “FOUR NEW DESTINATIONS” (yes it’s all in bold on their post). They emphasized NEW in the post making me and most likely others think they don’t fly to them already at all.

It's probably four new destinations out of MSP... doesn't mean they can't announce other stuff (i.e. out of MSN) as well

stlgph · Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:49 pm

Wouldn't be surprised to see either Ft Lauderdale or West Palm Beach come into play.

a318 · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:02 pm

Islip (ISP) fits into their new ULCC model, although I’m not sure they would start service with EWR down the road. Does SY still fly into JFK?

aviationjunky · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:04 pm

Maybe they'll move into Canada?

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:07 pm

dirtymillennial wrote:
MSN's social media is teasing "One of our airlines is announcing some incredible new flight locations" on that date as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Ps4kUjHgR/

Also, it says SOME and locationS . It sounds like more than one will be announced.

Do any other airlines have schedule extensions planned for next week?

jetblueguy22 · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:09 pm

Where are they getting the airframes? I didn’t think they had any on order. Maybe reducing the charter flights?

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:15 pm

jetblueguy22 wrote:
Where are they getting the airframes? I didn’t think they had any on order. Maybe reducing the charter flights?

I believe the Sun Country run casino flights are coming to an end soon (January)

flightsimer · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:16 pm

In the PIT thread, mention was made of a new Sun Country Check-in Counter

SyracuseAvGeek · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:28 pm

flightsimer wrote:
In the PIT thread, mention was made of a new Sun Country Check-in Counter

Maybe, although Sum Country will adds desk to an airport even if they only serve it 4 times a year for charters. Example: Muskegon, a REALLY small airport in Michigan that sees about 4-5 Sun County departures for charters and they have a counter there.

Not saying your wrong, just something to think about

N292UX · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:40 pm

GCM seems possible IMO.

Runway28L · Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:51 pm

flightsimer wrote:
In the PIT thread, mention was made of a new Sun Country Check-in Counter

AFAIK those are for military and casino charters only.

I actually haven't seen any signage myself, but I'll try and look for it on Friday.

MIflyer12 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 am

stlgph wrote:
Wouldn't be surprised to see either Ft Lauderdale or West Palm Beach come into play.

Why FLL when they already fly to MIA? Smaller carriers (and Sun Country doesn't even crack the top ten) usually pick one or the other.

jplatts · Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:23 am

SY re-adding service to Houston is a possibility as SY served HOU nonstop from MSP on a seasonal basis 13 years ago.

Here are the load factors for SY MSP-HOU nonstop service back when SY served HOU:
2006 = 91.93%
2007 = 85.43%

JamesRenard · Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:33 am

flightsimer wrote:
In the PIT thread, mention was made of a new Sun Country Check-in Counter

As much as I would love for it to be PIT, I think there are other destinations that are much more likely.
My predictions are IAH, CLT, RNO and possibly JAX

lavalampluva · Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:41 am

My guess is two sun destinations and two domestic.

zackary747 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:47 am

I would love to see Sun Country add IND one day.

N292UX · Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:49 am

SJC also seems like a possibility. PIT, IAH, RDU, JAX, MEM, ABQ, ORF, and PNS all also seem like possibilities.

jplatts · Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:08 am

SY adding MSP-SLC is a possibility since (a) DL is currently the only carrier serving SLC nonstop from MSP, (b) there is some leisure traffic to Utah from MSP to support SY possibly adding MSP-SLC nonstop service, (c) SY already serves a few DL hub airports such as SEA, LAX, and BOS nonstop from MSP, and (d) some of the recent SY adds out of MSP were to destinations that previously had no nonstop competition out of MSP.

klm617 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:19 am

A long shot but maybe MSP-FNT. FNT would be a great add for them but it is better served by maybe some Florida nonstops FNT-MCO and FNT-TPA

flyfresno · Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:25 am

FAT would be amazing! One of the top O&D cities from MSP not already served by any airline nonstop...

SyracuseAvGeek · Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am

Some possibilities I see are Grand Rapids and/or a mid-sized airport in upstate NY (BUF/ALB/SYR)

PA12 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:39 am

ELP? No existing service since NW quit . (with a crj A few years ago)

malev2012 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:44 am

N292UX wrote:
SJC also seems like a possibility. PIT, IAH, RDU, JAX, MEM, ABQ, ORF, and PNS all also seem like possibilities.

I agree these are the kind of locations, I don't see IAH with UA and DL on that route. Think PIT and MEM definitely could be among the possibilities.

ridgid727 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:06 am

jplatts wrote:
SY adding MSP-SLC is a possibility since (a) DL is currently the only carrier serving SLC nonstop from MSP, (b) there is some leisure traffic to Utah from MSP to support SY possibly adding MSP-SLC nonstop service, (c) SY already serves a few DL hub airports such as SEA, LAX, and BOS nonstop from MSP, and (d) some of the recent SY adds out of MSP were to destinations that previously had no nonstop competition out of MSP.

That would surprise me, as the available gate space in SLC is dwindling monthly, until the 1st phase of the new terminal opens in the fall of 2020.

Gulfstream500 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:17 am

Some guesses:

- RDU/RIC/ORF
- PBI/FLL
- COS
- Somewhere in the Bahamas?

YYZORD · Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:19 am

YYZ, YVR, and YYC?

Flaps · Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:50 am

flightsimer wrote:
In the PIT thread, mention was made of a new Sun Country Check-in Counter

That's just a common use counter with electronic signs displaying whomever happens to be using it at the time. Sun Country runs gambling charters a couple of time per month out of PIT to Gulfport and Laughlin. No connection whatsoever to any new SY service. That doesn't mean new service couldn't or won't happen just that its not related to that ticket counter. I don't think any scheduled SY service to PIT is on the horizon but would like to be wrong about that.

jplatts · Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:54 am

ridgid727 wrote:
That would surprise me, as the available gate space in SLC is dwindling monthly, until the 1st phase of the new terminal opens in the fall of 2020.

I can understand SY not adding MSP-SLC nonstop service until more gate space becomes available at SLC, even though I mentioned SY adding MSP-SLC as a possibility once enough gate space becomes available at SLC with SLC being a leisure destination and with SY already serving a few other DL hub airports such as BOS, LAX, and SEA nonstop from MSP.

adam47150 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:08 am

I would say IND or SDF, IND would pull in people that don't want to deal with ORD and SDF for those in Southern Indiana and KY that don't want to drive to STL or BNA.

Chasensfo · Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 am

I wonder if they will return to SJC, especially now that they have become a ULCC and branched out beyond MSP. They flew scheduled SJC-MSP on and off in the 2000s, I wonder if they'd try PDX or PSP to be a thorn in the side of AS/WN. DL has quite a few frequencies on the SJC-MSP route compared to years prior, so I'd be a little surprised to see them step back into that market.

airtrantpa · Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:12 am

Wishful thinking would be AVL, but if NK couldn’t really make AVL work I don’t think SY could. But the again NK flew in direct competition with G4 to florida

TYSflyer · Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:25 pm

airtrantpa wrote:
Wishful thinking would be AVL, but if NK couldn’t really make AVL work I don’t think SY could. But the again NK flew in direct competition with G4 to florida

Funny thing is AVL was one of my first thoughts when I saw this thread. It is becoming such a trendy destination. However, I do not know how much of a vacation destination it is from Minnesota.

RWA380 · Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:38 pm

Chasensfo wrote:
I wonder if they will return to SJC, especially now that they have become a ULCC and branched out beyond MSP. They flew scheduled SJC-MSP on and off in the 2000s, I wonder if they'd try PDX or PSP to be a thorn in the side of AS/WN. DL has quite a few frequencies on the SJC-MSP route compared to years prior, so I'd be a little surprised to see them step back into that market.

SY has a hub at PDX, they serve just under a dozen or so destinations non-stop from there, Palm Springs being one of them. SFO, MSP, HNL, SAN, PSP, PHX, LAS, BNA, SAT, STL & SJD. In addition they fly RDM-LAS as well. Check out their most current route map. https://www.suncountry.com/route-map

727LOVER · Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:54 pm

CHS
MCI

KLMatSJC · Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:14 pm

Chasensfo wrote:
I wonder if they will return to SJC, especially now that they have become a ULCC and branched out beyond MSP. They flew scheduled SJC-MSP on and off in the 2000s, I wonder if they'd try PDX or PSP to be a thorn in the side of AS/WN. DL has quite a few frequencies on the SJC-MSP route compared to years prior, so I'd be a little surprised to see them step back into that market.

When did they do that? AFAIK, it was only Laughlin charters and the occasion sports charters too.

Chasensfo · Fri Nov 01, 2019 4:50 am

KLMatSJC wrote:
Chasensfo wrote:
I wonder if they will return to SJC, especially now that they have become a ULCC and branched out beyond MSP. They flew scheduled SJC-MSP on and off in the 2000s, I wonder if they'd try PDX or PSP to be a thorn in the side of AS/WN. DL has quite a few frequencies on the SJC-MSP route compared to years prior, so I'd be a little surprised to see them step back into that market.

When did they do that? AFAIK, it was only Laughlin charters and the occasion sports charters too.

Early 2000s, either right before the shut down or right after the re-start. SJC is on a printed routemap I have somewhere on a brochure. I thought it was MSP-SJC, but if it was IFP-SJC, then it was scheduled and not just charter.

RWA380 wrote:
Chasensfo wrote:
I wonder if they will return to SJC, especially now that they have become a ULCC and branched out beyond MSP. They flew scheduled SJC-MSP on and off in the 2000s, I wonder if they'd try PDX or PSP to be a thorn in the side of AS/WN. DL has quite a few frequencies on the SJC-MSP route compared to years prior, so I'd be a little surprised to see them step back into that market.

SY has a hub at PDX, they serve just under a dozen or so destinations non-stop from there, Palm Springs being one of them. SFO, MSP, HNL, SAN, PSP, PHX, LAS, BNA, SAT, STL & SJD. In addition they fly RDM-LAS as well. Check out their most current route map. https://www.suncountry.com/route-map

Yep, which is why I said I think SJC-PDX/PSP are possible haha.

SyracuseAvGeek · Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:43 pm

Any airports have announcements set for tomorrow (other than MSN)?

jplatts · Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:55 pm

727LOVER wrote:
MCI

There is probably not enough demand for SY to add MCI-MSP since (a) the load factor for WN MCI-MSP was only 57.15% in the January 2019 - July 2019 time period, (b) most of the destinations that SY would be serving nonstop from MCI are already served nonstop out of MCI on WN, NK, F9, or G4, and (c) most of the leisure travelers who are traveling out of MCI would probably do so on airlines that already serve MCI.

rainaviation2 · Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:14 pm

A little late to the guessing party, but I remember reading an article where Jude Bricker (CEO) said SY wanted to focus next year on family destinations not served from MSP currently. Routes where people will use the airline to visit family members. That being said...

My four random (with some thinking) guesses are...

IAH, somewhere in Canada (maybe YWG), IND, and ABQ

I also think SY could sometime serve Bozeman or Billings in the future, but I won't jump there yet.

NWAESC · Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:16 pm

dirtymillennial wrote:
MSN's social media is teasing "One of our airlines is announcing some incredible new flight locations" on that date as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Ps4kUjHgR/

RWA380 wrote:
Chasensfo wrote:
I wonder if they will return to SJC, especially now that they have become a ULCC and branched out beyond MSP. They flew scheduled SJC-MSP on and off in the 2000s, I wonder if they'd try PDX or PSP to be a thorn in the side of AS/WN. DL has quite a few frequencies on the SJC-MSP route compared to years prior, so I'd be a little surprised to see them step back into that market.

SY has a hub at PDX, they serve just under a dozen or so destinations non-stop from there, Palm Springs being one of them. SFO, MSP, HNL, SAN, PSP, PHX, LAS, BNA, SAT, STL & SJD. In addition they fly RDM-LAS as well. Check out their most current route map. https://www.suncountry.com/route-map

Hmmm. Maybe MSN-PDX, then? Total wishful thinking on my part, but still...

Scarebus34 · Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:17 pm

Let me know when they decide to improve customer service and baggage handling.

FATFlyer · Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:37 pm

rainaviation2 wrote:
A little late to the guessing party, but I remember reading an article where Jude Bricker (CEO) said SY wanted to focus next year on family destinations not served from MSP currently. Routes where people will use the airline to visit family members.

Visiting family (VFR) instead of vacation destinations would make Fresno (FAT) a contender for SY service.

Fresno and Minneapolis/St. Paul (especially St. Paul) have the largest Hmong populations in the US. The Hmong culture has a tight family/clan structure. I know people who currently travel between the 2 areas to visit with family often but current air fare and connections often makes them drive.

FAT would also allow for vacationers from MSP or other areas to visit the 3 national parks in the area: Yosemite, Sequoia, and Kings Canyon.

krod031 · Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:00 pm

Ill play along on the guessing game, Knowing me, ill bat 0 for 4....:

If its 4 new cities, Ill say ONT, PIT, MCI and IAH

SyracuseAvGeek · Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:45 pm

NWAESC wrote:
dirtymillennial wrote:
MSN's social media is teasing "One of our airlines is announcing some incredible new flight locations" on that date as well.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Ps4kUjHgR/
RWA380 wrote:
Chasensfo wrote:
I wonder if they will return to SJC, especially now that they have become a ULCC and branched out beyond MSP. They flew scheduled SJC-MSP on and off in the 2000s, I wonder if they'd try PDX or PSP to be a thorn in the side of AS/WN. DL has quite a few frequencies on the SJC-MSP route compared to years prior, so I'd be a little surprised to see them step back into that market.

SY has a hub at PDX, they serve just under a dozen or so destinations non-stop from there, Palm Springs being one of them. SFO, MSP, HNL, SAN, PSP, PHX, LAS, BNA, SAT, STL & SJD. In addition they fly RDM-LAS as well. Check out their most current route map. https://www.suncountry.com/route-map

Hmmm. Maybe MSN-PDX, then? Total wishful thinking on my part, but still...

The four new routes will all be from MSP

tys777 · Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:52 pm

I'm going say STC and EAU with expanded bus service on landline, and then something weird like CHS and SLC with air service. I feel like this is a hard one to get a good feel of.

BGS91762 · Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:25 pm

I’ve noticed construction at the ticket counter between AA and SW at ONT. Makes me wonder if ONT might be one of the new destinations. Would not be surprising with all the new service going to ONT and the complete mess that LAX is currently in.

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