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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:11 pm

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The same plane VT-ALS has been doing BOM-LHR for the past 8 days that’s why I assumed one is enough. To add to the utilization piece, one plane each for 3/wk YYZ, IAD and SFO is also poor utilization

Yeah.....I think if both the SFO flights and IAD operate on the same day (using the same equipment type - both were launched using 77L), they can't operate AI173/174 the day after. So in a bid to leverage SFO as much as possible, they moved the IAD flight to a 77W, leaving a bunch of under utilized frames. At least that is my theory.

I wonder why not go 77W at SFO on at least 1 rotation. It's not like they haven't operated that plane on this route before. It was being used recently when VT-ALG went AOG for a couple of weeks.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:47 am

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Expansion of Mangaluru airport runway not feasible: Hardeep Puri

So, depite 2 accidents that could have been avoided with a long runway, the Government looks away

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ec ... 562401.ece


Sardar can only see Amritsar and nothing else. Should be shunted out of the cabinet ASAP
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:59 am

Looks like SpiceJet is on the verge of placing a MAX order at the Dubai Air Show.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 1:51 pm

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Looks like SpiceJet is on the verge of placing a MAX order at the Dubai Air Show.


They are going head on head with Indigo in ordering gazillion aircraft. With the current grounding of the Max, Boeing must have offered them a once in a lifetime deal, which would also boost confidence in the Max.

Meanwhile, SpiceJet has cancelled its Mumbai to Hong Kong flights through Jan 15
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wap.busine ... 286_1.html
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:01 pm

killswitch13 wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
Expansion of Mangaluru airport runway not feasible: Hardeep Puri

So, depite 2 accidents that could have been avoided with a long runway, the Government looks away

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ec ... 562401.ece


Sardar can only see Amritsar and nothing else. Should be shunted out of the cabinet ASAP


Please read up on the topology of Mangalore airport before making absurd comments. You can search on the web for Mangalore expansion proposals to understand the issue better.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:14 pm

VT-TNL has been flown down to Hyderabad a few days ago. Most airplanes get repainted here...
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:54 pm

CollegeAviator wrote:
VT-TNL has been flown down to Hyderabad a few days ago. Most airplanes get repainted here...


I asked about VT-TNL a few days ago since it was delivered in all white. Do you hve any idea if they are getting a new livery or updated livery or special livery? Otherwise we shall see in the next few days.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:40 am

The Pied Pier (Synergy) continues to take the gullible Resolution Professional and NCLAT on a ride; extension to bid granted through Dec 3rd.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/ec ... 008485.ece
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:52 am

Indigo has so far received 21 of the 50 ATR 72-600s; no plans as of now to take on more. It also discovered that 80% of the passengers who fly on its ATRs, then connect to IndiGo’s jet service.

IndiGo hopes to grow its international services so it accounts for half its flights as compared to about 25% now. India only sees about 250,000 arrivals from China each year; Thailand gets something like 10 million a year from China

http://smartaviation-apac.com/2019/11/i ... y-of-atrs/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:21 pm

Virgin Atlantic will launch a second-daily DEL flight effective March 29, 2020, with the A350 as part of 4 other destinations to be operated by the A350. BOM flight has also been retimed.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... me-462400/
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:45 pm

airboss787 wrote:
CollegeAviator wrote:
VT-TNL has been flown down to Hyderabad a few days ago. Most airplanes get repainted here...


I asked about VT-TNL a few days ago since it was delivered in all white. Do you hve any idea if they are getting a new livery or updated livery or special livery? Otherwise we shall see in the next few days.

Your posts are the reason why I kept tracking VT-TNL :)
As of now, I am not sure what it is going to be: will be pretty anti-climatic if it's the standard livery haha
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:48 pm

How about this: Starting Jan 8th Air India are going to go switch DEL-IAD to a 787 from the current 777-300ER!
Straight out of the AI website:
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:24 pm

^^Their website time table still shows IAD on 77W via BOM :roll:
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:29 pm

VTORD wrote:
^^Their website time table still shows IAD on 77W via BOM :roll:

Via BOM? What was the origin & destination you were looking at?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:56 pm

CollegeAviator wrote:
VTORD wrote:
^^Their website time table still shows IAD on 77W via BOM :roll:

Via BOM? What was the origin & destination you were looking at?


I guess this was done during airspace blockade..

Would 788 have the legs for Del- IAD?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:06 am

airboss787 wrote:
Virgin Atlantic will launch a second-daily DEL flight effective March 29, 2020, with the A350 as part of 4 other destinations to be operated by the A350. BOM flight has also been retimed.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... me-462400/


Super smart and go Sky Team. Vistara is now a little too late to join the party
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:33 am

ANA to start Haneda to Delhi service (I am unclear if this replaces the Narita to Delhi service or is in addition to it)

https://simpleflying.com/japan-airlines-ana-expansion/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:24 am

unnayan wrote:
I guess this was done during airspace blockade..
Would 788 have the legs for Del- IAD?

Yes. Guess they haven't updated it. :lol:
I think they should be able to pull it off. DEL-IAD is 7506 mi per GCM - that gives it approx., 1000 mi breathing space to the 788.

CollegeAviator wrote:
Via BOM? What was the origin & destination you were looking at?

I looked at their timetable and searched "Destination" as Washington. It showed a 3:00 AM departure out of DEL, 6:00 AM departure out of BOM w/ a 13:40 arrival at IAD.

airboss787 wrote:
Virgin Atlantic will launch a second-daily DEL flight effective March 29, 2020, with the A350 as part of 4 other destinations to be operated by the A350. BOM flight has also been retimed.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... me-462400/

They are going after O&D at BOM I guess. The 2nd DEL will add good connectivity to their NA flights out of LHR (I am assuming a midnight arr/dep out of DEL). Plus the day time departures from India will probably connect well to their late departures to JFK, SFO, ATL, SEA and DTW. Looks like between DL, VS, AF and KL, SkyTeam has started getting a decent hold in India.

edealinfo wrote:
ANA to start Haneda to Delhi service (I am unclear if this replaces the Narita to Delhi service or is in addition to it)
https://simpleflying.com/japan-airlines-ana-expansion/

I read it as an addition.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:04 pm

VTORD wrote:

CollegeAviator wrote:
Via BOM? What was the origin & destination you were looking at?

I looked at their timetable and searched "Destination" as Washington. It showed a 3:00 AM departure out of DEL, 6:00 AM departure out of BOM w/ a 13:40 arrival at IAD.
DEL-IAD arrival would be at 0615 am: maybe you are looking at a codeshare in to IAD, perhaps with UA or LH?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:25 pm

CollegeAviator wrote:
VTORD wrote:

CollegeAviator wrote:
Via BOM? What was the origin & destination you were looking at?

I looked at their timetable and searched "Destination" as Washington. It showed a 3:00 AM departure out of DEL, 6:00 AM departure out of BOM w/ a 13:40 arrival at IAD.
DEL-IAD arrival would be at 0615 am: maybe you are looking at a codeshare in to IAD, perhaps with UA or LH?

That's what it seems like.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:00 pm

ORIGIN DESTINATION Flight Number FREQ DEPARTURE ARRIVAL AIRCRAFT STOPS
Delhi Washington AI 0103 ..3.5.7 1:50 13:40 B777-ER 1
Mumbai Washington AI 0103 ..3.5.7 6:05 13:40 B777-ER

This is a copy - paste of the tabulated information from this page: http://www.airindia.com/time-table.htm

I used the parameter "DESTINATION" in the drop down and typed "Washington" - AI's systems don't accept IATA codes for airports.
Just to be sure, I typed in both IAD and BOM and got this result: "No Time Table found". Go figure!!
FR24 confirmed that it is indeed n/s. I should have posted that in my previous post. It would have saved us about 4 posts and some aggravation over these idiots! :lol:

I would have embeded the screenshots but I don't know how to do it. If someone can tell me, I am all for it.
For the time being, you'll just have to believe me here.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:18 am

Does anyone know the new timings for Virgin’a LHR-BOM flights once they move to evening departures from LHR in the summer schedule?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:43 am

unnayan wrote:
CollegeAviator wrote:
VTORD wrote:
^^Their website time table still shows IAD on 77W via BOM :roll:

Via BOM? What was the origin & destination you were looking at?


I guess this was done during airspace blockade..

Would 788 have the legs for Del- IAD?

There are reports that in the peak Sydney summer months, AI has left bags behind because of load restrictions and now AI wants to fly the 788 on one of their longest US routes (considerably longer than SYD). It will be interesting to see how they manage to pull this off! If it’s successful, AI can launch DEL-EWR and BOS on the Dreamliner
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:24 am

Air India was very short sighted in ordering the 788 over the 789. But then again nothing that Air India does makes common sense.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:30 am

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I would have embeded the screenshots but I don't know how to do it. If someone can tell me, I am all for it.
For the time being, you'll just have to believe me here.


Go to Full Editor and click on the Insert image icon (the one with two mountains). Paste the URL of the image between the tags.
(If you want to attach an image from your PC you have to first upload the image to imgur and get the link.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:01 am

unrave wrote:
Air India was very short sighted in ordering the 788 over the 789. But then again nothing that Air India does makes common sense.


When Air India ordered B787 in January 2006, their need was very very pressing, they had an ageing fleet of B747s-A310s that needed urgent replacement, they couldn't have waited till B787-9. They got a killer price then. However they should have upgauged to -9 once they had 10-15 onboard.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:31 am

sibibom wrote:
unrave wrote:
Air India was very short sighted in ordering the 788 over the 789. But then again nothing that Air India does makes common sense.


When Air India ordered B787 in January 2006, their need was very very pressing, they had an ageing fleet of B747s-A310s that needed urgent replacement, they couldn't have waited till B787-9. They got a killer price then. However they should have upgauged to -9 once they had 10-15 onboard.


I think I read a report that said they paid $106 M for the 787-8. It was the parliamentary guys who disclosed what should have been confidential info. and I think they even unwitting announced it in parliament.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:23 am

edealinfo wrote:
sibibom wrote:
unrave wrote:
Air India was very short sighted in ordering the 788 over the 789. But then again nothing that Air India does makes common sense.


When Air India ordered B787 in January 2006, their need was very very pressing, they had an ageing fleet of B747s-A310s that needed urgent replacement, they couldn't have waited till B787-9. They got a killer price then. However they should have upgauged to -9 once they had 10-15 onboard.


I think I read a report that said they paid $106 M for the 787-8. It was the parliamentary guys who disclosed what should have been confidential info. and I think they even unwitting announced it in parliament.


Its $248 million list price today fyi
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:26 am

That's a discount of 57%. Seems like a good deal indeed.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:37 am

unrave wrote:
That's a discount of 57%. Seems like a good deal indeed.


Technically it was $120million list price when launched. I have heard $91 million as the price paid in general then. However, the price given in parliament may include, engines, interiors etc....
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:17 pm

unrave wrote:
That's a discount of 57%. Seems like a good deal indeed.


But that was the cost at that point in time when the list price was probably lower than what it is today. Regardless, it was a big discount. I think I recal a couple of years ago that stated that they could have sold it for $116M (at that point in time).
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:28 pm

yashk wrote:
There are reports that in the peak Sydney summer months, AI has left bags behind because of load restrictions and now AI wants to fly the 788 on one of their longest US routes (considerably longer than SYD). It will be interesting to see how they manage to pull this off! If it’s successful, AI can launch DEL-EWR and BOS on the Dreamliner

IF they do pull it off we are back to your comments upthread about low utilization. So maybe they will introduce DEL-EWR with the 77W (more demand) at that point. BOS? Hadn't thought of that one.

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Go to Full Editor and click on the Insert image icon (the one with two mountains). Paste the URL of the image between the tags.
(If you want to attach an image from your PC you have to first upload the image to imgur and get the link.

Okay..that's the part I was confused about. So you have to upload the image to a hosting site. Thanks! :)
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:36 pm

sibibom wrote:
unrave wrote:
Air India was very short sighted in ordering the 788 over the 789. But then again nothing that Air India does makes common sense.


When Air India ordered B787 in January 2006, their need was very very pressing, they had an ageing fleet of B747s-A310s that needed urgent replacement, they couldn't have waited till B787-9. They got a killer price then. However they should have upgauged to -9 once they had 10-15 onboard.


I thought that the 788s were part of that infamous Praful Patel dictated 68 plane order that started the slide they are in now. The 788 wasn't even in the plan. The original plan was for 28 a/c - 10WB (A343) and 18NB(B737). Enter PP as MoCA and suddenly AI order book was 50WB (15B77W, 8B77L, 27B788) and 18NB(B737).

IC had a separate Airbus NB order which got combined once NACIL was formed into a 100+ order book.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:26 pm

SpiceJet bags 100 of Jet’s slots in Mumbai and Delhi airports, Air India settles for 12

As they say in India, “big, big, news”



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newind ... 064862.amp
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:41 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newind ... -late-1q20

The above link clarifies that ANA is “moving” its Delhi flight from Narita to Haneda airport in Tokyo as opposed to operating the flight to both airports
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:25 pm

VTORD wrote:
yashk wrote:
There are reports that in the peak Sydney summer months, AI has left bags behind because of load restrictions and now AI wants to fly the 788 on one of their longest US routes (considerably longer than SYD). It will be interesting to see how they manage to pull this off! If it’s successful, AI can launch DEL-EWR and BOS on the Dreamliner

IF they do pull it off we are back to your comments upthread about low utilization. So maybe they will introduce DEL-EWR with the 77W (more demand) at that point. BOS? Hadn't thought of that one.


If AI cannot make JFK/EWR work, then BOS will have to wait for some time. If there is range, likely ORD/IAD before BOS. Perhaps even ATL.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:43 pm

edealinfo wrote:
The above link clarifies that ANA is “moving” its Delhi flight from Narita to Haneda airport in Tokyo as opposed to operating the flight to both airports


Something that should have happened long long time ago.
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:04 pm

edealinfo wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2019/nov/21/spicejet-bags-100-of-jets-slots-in-mumbai-and-delhi-airports-air-india-settles-for-12-2064862.amp.com/portal/news/83584-japans-ana-jal-to-boost-tokyo-haneda-routes-from-late-1q20

The above link clarifies that ANA is “moving” its Delhi flight from Narita to Haneda airport in Tokyo as opposed to operating the flight to both airports


I can't seem to get the right link. It says it's broken. Do you have another one? Thanks
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:43 pm

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I can't seem to get the right link. It says it's broken. Do you have another one? Thanks

For the SG news use the link in #283....that one works fine. I think two URLs got mixed up there.

Here is a link which confirms the move:
https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/11/21/ana ... itinerary/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:54 pm

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If AI cannot make JFK/EWR work, then BOS will have to wait for some time. If there is range, likely ORD/IAD before BOS. Perhaps even ATL.

ORD from what I understand will be out of bounds for the 788. I think even now the 77W is pushed to the envelope during the winter.
So IAD is the guinea pig (so to say) as we know at this time. I was going to say ATL (or even PHL might provide a larger catchment area) as well over BOS as well but BOS been growing steadily so.....

The question is:
Assuming IAD works on a 788, they are going to have another spare 77W lying around which means.....
Assuming SFO can go 77W on atleast 1 rotation, does the freed up 77L give AI the wherewithal to open a route from BOM? The original AI126/127 perhaps (BOM - ORD)?

It will be interesting to see what effect UA's SFO - DEL has on AI.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:01 pm

edealinfo wrote:
SpiceJet bags 100 of Jet’s slots in Mumbai and Delhi airports, Air India settles for 12

As they say in India, “big, big, news”



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newind ... 064862.amp

The headline was a bit sensational.
Slots at BOM+DEL per the link:
SpiceJet: 100 (24 at DEL)
Indigo: 92 (outsized 40 at DEL)
Vistara: 66 (12 at DEL)
GoAir: 28 (12 at DEL)
AirAsia: 28 (12 at DEL)
AI: 12 (All DEL)

When the aircraft aren't flyable, you lose out on an opportunity. However, Indigo and Vistara both did very well.

Most of the slots were spread out. SpiceJet gained a huge first mover advantage. Vistara was late out of the gate, but ended up doing very well. The three laggards needed more cost control. Having funds on hand to initiate a strategic move is fundamental business strategy that all three laggards failed on.

Lightsaber

Late edit:
SpiceJet is tiny vs Indigo:
Indigo 47.4% market share
SpiceJet 16.3%
AI 12.6%
GoAir 11.2%
AirAsia 6.5%
Vistara 5.4%

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/in.news.yaho ... 26844.html

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.moneycon ... 1.html/amp

When will GoAir have more marketshare than AI?
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:03 pm

JOYA380B747 wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
The above link clarifies that ANA is “moving” its Delhi flight from Narita to Haneda airport in Tokyo as opposed to operating the flight to both airports


Something that should have happened long long time ago.


They didn’t have the slots before. A Haneda slot to India just opened up for them.

India is eligible for just 1 daytime Haneda slot which opened up. I am unclear whether Air India or Vistara has applied for it.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:16 pm

lightsaber wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
SpiceJet bags 100 of Jet’s slots in Mumbai and Delhi airports, Air India settles for 12

As they say in India, “big, big, news”



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newind ... 064862.amp

The headline was a bit sensational.
Slots at BOM+DEL per the link:
SpiceJet: 100 (24 at DEL)
Indigo: 92 (outsized 40 at DEL)
Vistara: 66 (12 at DEL)
GoAir: 28 (12 at DEL)
AirAsia: 28 (12 at DEL)
AI: 12 (All DEL)

When the aircraft aren't flyable, you lose out on an opportunity. However, Indigo and Vistara both did very well.

Most of the slots were spread out. SpiceJet gained a huge first mover advantage. Vistara was late out of the gate, but ended up doing very well. The three laggards needed more cost control. Having funds on hand to initiate a strategic move is fundamental business strategy that all three laggards failed on.

Lightsaber

Late edit:
SpiceJet is tiny vs Indigo:
Indigo 47.4% market share
SpiceJet 16.3%
AI 12.6%
GoAir 11.2%
AirAsia 6.5%
Vistara 5.4%

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/in.news.yaho ... 26844.html

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.moneycon ... 1.html/amp

When will GoAir have more marketshare than AI?


Are these slots “cumulative” with what was allotted earlier this year or are in addition To it? I assume the former?
So, what are the City pairs associated with these slots.
What was the methodology for allowing the slots?
What percentage of the allotted slots are already in operation by carriers?
Are these slots allotted on a “temporary “ basis meaning the Government continues to propagate the bogey of Jet’s revival?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:23 pm

vadodara wrote:
VTORD wrote:
yashk wrote:
There are reports that in the peak Sydney summer months, AI has left bags behind because of load restrictions and now AI wants to fly the 788 on one of their longest US routes (considerably longer than SYD). It will be interesting to see how they manage to pull this off! If it’s successful, AI can launch DEL-EWR and BOS on the Dreamliner

IF they do pull it off we are back to your comments upthread about low utilization. So maybe they will introduce DEL-EWR with the 77W (more demand) at that point. BOS? Hadn't thought of that one.


If AI cannot make JFK/EWR work, then BOS will have to wait for some time. If there is range, likely ORD/IAD before BOS. Perhaps even ATL.

Based on this link: https://www.anna.aero/2019/03/06/100-ro ... p-service/

LA is the top market from delhi without a non stop , BOS is last at #15 and Atlanta is no where. Yes BOS would be a long short but probably still higher chance than ATL. AI should look into moving 3/wk SFO to BOM to account for UA starting SFO-DEL
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:49 am

edealinfo wrote:
JOYA380B747 wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
The above link clarifies that ANA is “moving” its Delhi flight from Narita to Haneda airport in Tokyo as opposed to operating the flight to both airports


Something that should have happened long long time ago.


They didn’t have the slots before. A Haneda slot to India just opened up for them.

India is eligible for just 1 daytime Haneda slot which opened up. I am unclear whether Air India or Vistara has applied for it.
JAL has moved its DEL-NRT to HND as well. JAL's BLR-NRT and ANA's MAA-NRT stay at NRT.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:04 am

Virgin to start 2nd daily LHR to DEL to undermine Vistara's potential flight on the same route?


https://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2019/ ... nsion.html
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:11 am

CPS001 wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
JOYA380B747 wrote:

Something that should have happened long long time ago.


They didn’t have the slots before. A Haneda slot to India just opened up for them.

India is eligible for just 1 daytime Haneda slot which opened up. I am unclear whether Air India or Vistara has applied for it.
JAL has moved its DEL-NRT to HND as well. JAL's BLR-NRT and ANA's MAA-NRT stay at NRT.


For perspective, note that the reason they couldn't also move the MAA and BLR flights is because ANA and JAL, each, only received 1 Haneda slot to operate to India.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:11 am

lightsaber wrote:
Slots at BOM+DEL per the link:
SpiceJet: 100 (24 at DEL)
Indigo: 92 (outsized 40 at DEL)
Vistara: 66 (12 at DEL)
GoAir: 28 (12 at DEL)
AirAsia: 28 (12 at DEL)
AI: 12 (All DEL)


IIRC, Vistara should be 56 (12 DEL + 44 BOM). See below from stated article:
According to the ministry’s information, maximum 76 slots at the Mumbai airport went to SpiceJet and IndiGo was at the second position having 52 slots. Go Air, Vistara and Air Asia also received shares in slots 16, 54 and 16 respectively.
If Vistara got 54, it should be at second position not 6E w/ 52.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:20 am

yashk wrote:
Based on this link: https://www.anna.aero/2019/03/06/100-ro ... p-service/
LA is the top market from delhi without a non stop , BOS is last at #15 and Atlanta is no where. Yes BOS would be a long short but probably still higher chance than ATL. AI should look into moving 3/wk SFO to BOM to account for UA starting SFO-DEL


Couple of question about this:
1. Are these O&D #s excluding transiting pax? i.e., journey was DEL-XXX-LAX and vice versa?

2. How is PDEW counted? i.e., if 100 pax travelled on a flight from ATL to BOM but 20 transited XXX-ATL-BOM and 10 transited ATL-BOM-YYY what is PDEW 100? or 70?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:17 am

After EK, SpiceJet has now signed an MoU with GulfAir for a commercial tie-up. Seems like SG is betting on ME carriers & an ME hub at Ras-Al- Khaimah for it's int'l expansion and connectivity.

https://worldairlinenews.com/2019/11/21 ... -together/

GoAir has added two new destinations to it's network : Indore & Varanasi, to commence services next month.
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