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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:23 pm

Priority for DGCA- why a sitar broke
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehin ... 4.ece/amp/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:52 pm

1. Spicejet not to get wide-bodies (at least for the foreseeable future)

2. 18% GST is the difference between why MRO is done outside India as oppose dto within India.

3. No chance that Spicejet will bid for Air India
https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/busi ... -will-pick
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:05 pm

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Priority for DGCA- why a sitar broke
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehin ... 4.ece/amp/


Concert quality musical instruments are very expensive. Many artiste's are very specific to how their "equipment" feels and handles. Think about UA misplacing Rory McIlroy's golf clubs or Roger Federer's racquets. I used to think the same way you did until a friend who is trained to play the tabla explained the nuances of it.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:27 pm

edealinfo wrote:
1. Spicejet not to get wide-bodies (at least for the foreseeable future)

2. 18% GST is the difference between why MRO is done outside India as oppose dto within India.

3. No chance that Spicejet will bid for Air India
https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/busi ... -will-pick

So SpiceJet has a sane management. A high GST will of course push out maintenance. That is true of all tax structures. The high aviation fuel tax makes it impossible for Indian airlines to be competitive in international to international connections.

Not buying widebodies is just wise. At least until the inverted fares end, which, in my opinion, requires a different style of management at one airline.

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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:01 am

VTORD wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
Priority for DGCA- why a sitar broke
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thehin ... 4.ece/amp/


Concert quality musical instruments are very expensive. Many artiste's are very specific to how their "equipment" feels and handles. Think about UA misplacing Rory McIlroy's golf clubs or Roger Federer's racquets. I used to think the same way you did until a friend who is trained to play the tabla explained the nuances of it.


I was trying to make a general joke.

But, I don't understand why DGCA needs to get involved. Don't they have more important work to do? Safety? Security? Other such issues.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:21 am

In the near future, will Airbus get an Indian widebody customer? The collapse of 9W eliminated the only Indian operator of Airbus widebodies, namely A330s. Both AI and UK are committed to the 787, and AI has the 777 and 747 as well. It is unlikely that either of them will ever buy Airbus widebodies, and both 6E and SG have repeatedly said no as well. G8 is too small.

This leaves only AirAsia, which will obviously operate the A330neo if it launches an Indian widebody operation. But that is unlikely to take off in the first place. The AirAsia group is investing much more in Thailand, over and above its home country, than Ind(ones)ia or the Philippines. The Garuda/Lion duopoly and the growth of PAL and Cebu Pacific have limited its presence in those two markets. Similarly 6E and SG dominate the Indian LCC sector, and when those two have declined to add an additional fleet type, it does not make sense for AirAsia to do it either.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:28 pm

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This leaves only AirAsia, which will obviously operate the A330neo if it launches an Indian widebody operation. But that is unlikely to take off in the first place. The AirAsia group is investing much more in Thailand, over and above its home country, than Ind(ones)ia or the Philippines. The Garuda/Lion duopoly and the growth of PAL and Cebu Pacific have limited its presence in those two markets. Similarly 6E and SG dominate the Indian LCC sector, and when those two have declined to add an additional fleet type, it does not make sense for AirAsia to do it either.


Good information and perspective, and thanks for sharing. I think widebodies for low cost carriers (LCCs) in India would only arise 5 to10 year from now, when India's travelling population grows so large that it becomes inevitable. So, it is only a matter of time, albeit a long one.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:08 pm

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/in ... 208893.cms

Lufthansa clarifies its position in India
1. No more new flights to India. This also means no chance of restarting the Pune to Frankfurt flight.
2. Hyderabad was considered but ignored because of lack of "profitability" on that route.
3. It currently interlines with Vistara and code shares with Air India. Vistara is an obvious choice for a code share but it is also looking at other Indian carriers for connectivity (interline?).
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:10 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10407980/ ... s-flights/

Passenger dresses up as a Lufthansa pilot to get free upgrades and jump queues. Succeeds several times but finally get caught.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:54 pm

Kannur airport will not get "point of call" status denying the right of foreign carriers the right to fly there

So, there is investment by the private sector in this airport, and they are treated like dirt. Airport is at 30% of capacity and making losses because of lack of utilization.

If you can read the tea leaves what the minister is saying...."I don't give two hoots if its not Amritsar"

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 191332.cms
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:21 pm

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Kannur airport will not get "point of call" status denying the right of foreign carriers the right to fly there

So, there is investment by the private sector in this airport, and they are treated like dirt. Airport is at 30% of capacity and making losses because of lack of utilization.

If you can read the tea leaves what the minister is saying...."I don't give two hoots if its not Amritsar"

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cit ... 191332.cms
Coimbatore and Mangalore in the same region, much bigger cities - have also not been given POC for many years now. Don't think the minister/ being private has anything to do with this.

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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:26 pm

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So IAD is the guinea pig (so to say) as we know at this time. I was going to say ATL (or even PHL might provide a larger catchment area) as well over BOS as well but BOS been growing steadily so.....

The question is:
Assuming IAD works on a 788, they are going to have another spare 77W lying around which means.....
Assuming SFO can go 77W on atleast 1 rotation, does the freed up 77L give AI the wherewithal to open a route from BOM? The original AI126/127 perhaps (BOM - ORD)?

It will be interesting to see what effect UA's SFO - DEL has on AI.


I concur within the constraints IAD might be it. Agree that PHL might be a better candidate because there is some on an overlap for catchment area. Better to be opportunistic.

Strategy would dictate to have plans to cover ATL, dFW/IAH and perhaps LAX but that is really a long shot.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:28 am

To tap into the booming India to US market,
Gulf Air to upgrade aircraft to India from Bahrain, and the connect Bahrain to New York to create a new route from India to the US via Bahrain
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.arabia ... ian-routes
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:49 am

SpiceJet faces liquidity crunch, plans to raise Rs 750 crore via QIP. The prolonged grounding of the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft has put pressure on the airline's cost control

For additional details check out business standard newspaper
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:48 am

edealinfo wrote:
To tap into the booming India to US market,
Gulf Air to upgrade aircraft to India from Bahrain, and the connect Bahrain to New York to create a new route from India to the US via Bahrain
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.arabia ... ian-routes


The article mentions gulf Air flies to Kolkata which is incorrect...
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 12:11 pm

EK and SG sign a codeshare agreement, subject to government approvals. https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/e ... 13064023=1

Explanation: Like 6E and QR this is a bit like a one-way agreement, where the EK code is placed on those SG destinations ex-DXB (ATQ, CCJ, IXE, IXM, JAI, PNQ) that are not served by EK. But the SG code is not placed on EK flights from DXB to BKK/SIN, JED/RUH/BAH/MCT, etc.

Again, as with 6E and QR, limited Indian destinations come under the purview of common routes. EK and SG place their codes on each other’s flights from DXB to AMD, BOM, COK and DEL and back. But not MAA, BLR, CCU, HYD and TRV, which are the other five of EK’s nine Indian destinations. Similarly, the 6E–QR codeshare is limited to flights from DOH to DEL, BOM and HYD and back, except that is only on 6E metal and not QR metal.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:51 pm

What is the status of Vistara’s four 787-9. At least 3 should by now be fully built out,?tested and ready for delivery. Is Vistara waiting for the 4th to take all 4 at once? It doesn’t make sense for aircraft to be on the ground not making money. Hasn’t capital been locked up? How is one to pay the interst on loans if the amount invested in the aircraft is not generating income?

Separately, which engines did Vistara select for the 787-9. Was it the Trent 1000 which is plagued with problems or GENX?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:41 pm

^^Looks like January is the delivery month. But cannot find anything confirming this one way or the other.

https://www.geaviation.com/press-releas ... reamliners

Incidentally SQ and Scoot have gone with RR.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:35 pm

Now $1 = Rs 72 and Indian rupee is the worst performing currency. Till $1 = Rs 55, India will not be buying an Boeing or Airbus planes.

If I got it right now Beoing 747 costs $375 million. In 2011 $1 = Rs 46 and a Boeing 747 would cost $300 million
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:59 pm

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^^Looks like January is the delivery month. But cannot find anything confirming this one way or the other.

https://www.geaviation.com/press-releas ... reamliners

Incidentally SQ and Scoot have gone with RR.


Wow, Per the article, Vistara selected GENX. So, it seems like that they picked the right engines twice - first for the A320neo and now for the 787-9.

On another note, I still think they are slow in announcing their destinations for the 787-9. This will greatly impact their forward sales. For comparative purposes, Delta, opened sales for JFK to BOM, 5 months ahead of the commencement date.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:36 pm

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edealinfo wrote:
SpiceJet bags 100 of Jet’s slots in Mumbai and Delhi airports, Air India settles for 12

As they say in India, “big, big, news”



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newind ... 064862.amp

The headline was a bit sensational.
Slots at BOM+DEL per the link:
SpiceJet: 100 (24 at DEL)
Indigo: 92 (outsized 40 at DEL)
Vistara: 66 (12 at DEL)
GoAir: 28 (12 at DEL)
AirAsia: 28 (12 at DEL)
AI: 12 (All DEL)

When the aircraft aren't flyable, you lose out on an opportunity. However, Indigo and Vistara both did very well.

Most of the slots were spread out. SpiceJet gained a huge first mover advantage. Vistara was late out of the gate, but ended up doing very well. The three laggards needed more cost control. Having funds on hand to initiate a strategic move is fundamental business strategy that all three laggards failed on.

Lightsaber

Late edit:
SpiceJet is tiny vs Indigo:
Indigo 47.4% market share
SpiceJet 16.3%
AI 12.6%
GoAir 11.2%
AirAsia 6.5%
Vistara 5.4%

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/in.news.yaho ... 26844.html

https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.moneycon ... 1.html/amp

When will GoAir have more marketshare than AI?


Thanks for giving a clear picture and debunking the sensational headline.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:34 pm

DCGA panicks and orders all newly-inducted Indigo aircraft to only replace existing aircraft to address engine issues on the latter.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ndtv.c ... -rum%3Doff
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:02 pm

Vistara to revive first 2 787-9 in Feb and March of next year and launch service to London. It is unclear at this time whether they will fly to Heathrow or Gatwick since it is not mentioned in the article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.financ ... 6375/lite/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:46 am

That’s fast. Imagine daily double BOM-LHR with a 1-stop from a HYD or BLR.

DEL would be too risky with all the airspace closures.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:21 am

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That’s fast. Imagine daily double BOM-LHR with a 1-stop from a HYD or BLR.

DEL would be too risky with all the airspace closures.


Vistara has actually selected DEL as the base for 787. [So, it is not BOM]. How did I figure this out? Check out the link below. In the link you will find an advertisement for first officers to fly the 787 for which it clearly states, "for positions based in DELHI."

So, I am guessing the first two routes are Delhi to London (Heathrow or Gatwick to be decided), and DEL to Tokyo (Haneda or Natita to be decided).

https://www.cnbctv18.com/aviation/vista ... 766461.htm

What's still puzzling to me is that while there are three 787s ready to be delivered by Boeing, Vistara is only taking them in Feb/March, which, by the way, is per their original delivery schedule. Which is kind of bizarre since they advanced the plane buid-up schedule and took Hainan Airlines production slots instead of waiting for theirs to come up.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:09 am

IndiGo intends to fly the A330-300 to Manchester in summer 2020

source: https://networkthoughts.com/2019/11/27/ ... mmer-2020/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:31 am

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What's still puzzling to me is that while there are three 787s ready to be delivered by Boeing, Vistara is only taking them in Feb/March, which, by the way, is per their original delivery schedule. Which is kind of bizarre since they advanced the plane buid-up schedule and took Hainan Airlines production slots instead of waiting for theirs to come up.


Maybe the deal for the Hainan NTUs fell through and its back to their original schedule now?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:39 am

trinidadeG wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
What's still puzzling to me is that while there are three 787s ready to be delivered by Boeing, Vistara is only taking them in Feb/March, which, by the way, is per their original delivery schedule. Which is kind of bizarre since they advanced the plane buid-up schedule and took Hainan Airlines production slots instead of waiting for theirs to come up.


Maybe the deal for the Hainan NTUs fell through and its back to their original schedule now?


Or perhaps they are waiting for their own custom interiors to be ready?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:22 am

sibibom wrote:
IndiGo intends to fly the A330-300 to Manchester in summer 2020

source: https://networkthoughts.com/2019/11/27/ ... mmer-2020/


Hard to believe until we see a A330 in 6E livery.. although waiting for long
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:07 am

unnayan wrote:
sibibom wrote:
IndiGo intends to fly the A330-300 to Manchester in summer 2020

source: https://networkthoughts.com/2019/11/27/ ... mmer-2020/


Hard to believe until we see a A330 in 6E livery.. although waiting for long


They aren't buying, they have decided to lease and test the market first. And they even selected A330-300 which is further than they have ever gone. But yes lets wait until next year.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:26 pm

edealinfo wrote:
What's still puzzling to me is that while there are three 787s ready to be delivered by Boeing, Vistara is only taking them in Feb/March, which, by the way, is per their original delivery schedule. Which is kind of bizarre since they advanced the plane buid-up schedule and took Hainan Airlines production slots instead of waiting for theirs to come up.

This is indeed puzzling! The fact that they advertised only now for 787 pilots is also quite strange. One would think that this would have happened the moment the production slot was moved up. Of course it is entirely possible that they already have enough 787 crew trained with SQ to take possession and start familiarization fights.

trinidadeG wrote:
Maybe the deal for the Hainan NTUs fell through and its back to their original schedule now?

4 frames have been back in PAE in full UK colors for about a month now so that can't possibly be it.

sibibom wrote:
Or perhaps they are waiting for their own custom interiors to be ready?

Most likely scenario.

unnayan wrote:
Hard to believe until we see a A330 in 6E livery.. although waiting for long

I'll believe it when I see the first flight has landed in MAN.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:53 pm

 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:55 pm

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I thought Ajay Singh was the smartest?.. ;)
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:11 pm

sibibom wrote:
IndiGo intends to fly the A330-300 to Manchester in summer 2020

source: https://networkthoughts.com/2019/11/27/ ... mmer-2020/


Well researched article with good context.

Separately,

The Delhi International Airport Limited (DIAL), the Zurich Airport International AG, the Adani Enterprises Limited and the Anchorage Infrastructure Investments Holdings Limited , which are the 4 bidders for Delhi second airport, have all cleared the technical criteria. Financial bids will be opened on Nov 29 and the winner selected the same day
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:14 pm

Well, they were hyper-aggressive grabbing Jet's slots, getting any random plane available.

I stand by the fact that slot should have gone proportionally , now you have created another problem with the winner(or in this case mera Bhakt mahaan) grabs all slot distribution.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:14 pm

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I thought Ajay Singh was the smartest?.. ;)


He doesn’t want to give up an iota of his stake in SpiceJet. That’s the crux of the issue. Much like naresh Goyal who held on to his stake for too long.

It is a good time for ajay to cash out a portion of his stake. Presumably, there will be buyers
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:18 pm

Ajay singh should dilute his equity by issuing fresh shares to a strategic investor who can pump cash into the company.
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:25 pm

Is Vistara eyeing Air Serbia’s Belgrade to LHR slots which are leased from Etihad. The route was merely a placeholder to preserve the slot and the aircraft sits on the ground for hours since the slots were timed for Jet’s India flights.
This is my mind working overtime and is mere speculation. Vistara seems to be a bit too confident about London which leads me to believe they have something up their sleeve like the AIr Serbia slots. Alternatively British AIrways may throw them a helping hand
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:26 pm

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Well, they were hyper-aggressive grabbing Jet's slots, getting any random plane available.

I stand by the fact that slot should have gone proportionally , now you have created another problem with the winner(or in this case mera Bhakt mahaan) grabs all slot distribution.

Proportional distribution would have made Indigo a bigger behemoth. No one likes super monopolies
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:31 pm

But when a small airline tries to fill big shoes, guess what happens?

Proportional could also mean equally distributing amongst all airlines and give slots back incase the said airline isn't interested (aka Air India)
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:06 pm

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Is Vistara eyeing Air Serbia’s Belgrade to LHR slots which are leased from Etihad. The route was merely a placeholder to preserve the slot and the aircraft sits on the ground for hours since the slots were timed for Jet’s India flights.
This is my mind working overtime and is mere speculation. Vistara seems to be a bit too confident about London which leads me to believe they have something up their sleeve like the AIr Serbia slots. Alternatively British AIrways may throw them a helping hand


Not sure if EY will lease them the slots and create a competition for their own flights.. they are short on cash we all know, but not sure if desperate..... auctioning the slot in open market is a whole different thing though
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:08 pm

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Hard to believe until we see a A330 in 6E livery.. although waiting for long

I'll believe it when I see the first flight has landed in MAN.[/quote]
Not even when they take off from DEL/ BOM?? :lol:
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 6:14 pm

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At what point is the GOI going to try and fix indian aviation. Like reducing taxation and actually allowing indian carriers to have some profitable routes. The need for cheap flights does not supersede a stable aviation environment. I am sorry all those here who keep wanting the GOI to increase competition without any structural reform are missing the big picture. Airlines going out of business have real economic consequences. India has tons of labor and now decent airports. There is no reason India cannot have strong hub airlines. P2P will come with economic growth and strong airlines that can subsidize new routes. And yes I will say it as well, I thought Ajay was a matter stroke genius when he used crony capitalism to take Jet’s slots. I hope the Tatas get a dam partner and grow Vistara asap (and lobby the GOI on taxation)
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:17 pm

Pier Pier (Synergy) gets further extension through December 16 to submit a bid for Jet.
What in the world are the creditors expecting?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livemi ... 15541.html
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:20 pm

SpiceJet to set up airline with Ras al Kaimah, which would hold 51 percent
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ainonl ... -uae%3Famp
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:22 pm

CaliguyNYC wrote:
edealinfo wrote:


At what point is the GOI going to try and fix indian aviation. Like reducing taxation and actually allowing indian carriers to have some profitable routes. The need for cheap flights does not supersede a stable aviation environment. I am sorry all those here who keep wanting the GOI to increase competition without any structural reform are missing the big picture. Airlines going out of business have real economic consequences. India has tons of labor and now decent airports. There is no reason India cannot have strong hub airlines. P2P will come with economic growth and strong airlines that can subsidize new routes. And yes I will say it as well, I thought Ajay was a matter stroke genius when he used crony capitalism to take Jet’s slots. I hope the Tatas get a dam partner and grow Vistara asap (and lobby the GOI on taxation)


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.financ ... 7767/lite/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:23 pm

CaliguyNYC wrote:
edealinfo wrote:


At what point is the GOI going to try and fix indian aviation. Like reducing taxation and actually allowing indian carriers to have some profitable routes. The need for cheap flights does not supersede a stable aviation environment. I am sorry all those here who keep wanting the GOI to increase competition without any structural reform are missing the big picture. Airlines going out of business have real economic consequences. India has tons of labor and now decent airports. There is no reason India cannot have strong hub airlines. P2P will come with economic growth and strong airlines that can subsidize new routes. And yes I will say it as well, I thought Ajay was a matter stroke genius when he used crony capitalism to take Jet’s slots. I hope the Tatas get a dam partner and grow Vistara asap (and lobby the GOI on taxation)


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.financ ... 7767/lite/
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:47 pm

edealinfo wrote:
Vistara to revive first 2 787-9 in Feb and March of next year and launch service to London. It is unclear at this time whether they will fly to Heathrow or Gatwick since it is not mentioned in the article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.financ ... 6375/lite/


With Virgin staring a second flight from LHR to DEL, why does it still make sense for Vistrata to operate DEL to LHR?
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:08 pm

edealinfo wrote:
edealinfo wrote:
Vistara to revive first 2 787-9 in Feb and March of next year and launch service to London. It is unclear at this time whether they will fly to Heathrow or Gatwick since it is not mentioned in the article.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.financ ... 6375/lite/


With Virgin staring a second flight from LHR to DEL, why does it still make sense for Vistrata to operate DEL to LHR?


Vistara's largest base is Delhi and so can feed its London flight with lots of Indian connections. The same reason why Air India has more Delhi-London than Mumbai-London flights. Delhi is the main hub and offers most connections.

Virgin Atlantic don't have a codeshare partner in India. Their Delhi flights are to serve Delhi to North America via its London hub. Whilst some passengers will just fly Delhi-London, they are targetting North American transit passengers.

For Mumbai to prosper, an airline needs to operate a hub the size of Jet Airways was, offering connections across India. Until then, carriers will fly from Delhi as its their largest hubs
 
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Re: Indian Aviation Thread - November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:09 pm

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/ec ... 91011.html

Employee suggestions for Air India sell-off, turns into demand for freebies.

These proposals include medical facilities for the current and retired employees, the arrears of pilots, demand for a two-year lock-in period, and continuation of the scheme that offers complementary tickets to employees.

As part of the employees' perks, a large number of Air India staff - retired and current - is entitled for complementary tickets every year. These tickets vary from four to 16 per employee per year covering both domestic and international travel.
Current employees want the lock-in period to be increased to two years. It includes one-year guaranteed employment by the new owner, and in the second year, employees should be given an option to choose between VRS (voluntary retirement scheme) and one-year extension.
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