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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:48 pm

Quite an unexpected move as earlier today I received an e-mail about the black friday sale from KK.

But truth to be told, I was holding off booking with them for a while now as I was not sure about their future...
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:54 pm

Isn't this airline owned by the current Minister of Tourism?
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:45 pm

AtlasGlobal is owned by ETS Group which was founded by two brothers in early 1990s.

One indeed is a minister currently. Other brother also previously served in government. Group and companies are managed independently with own boards these days.
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LAXintl
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:57 pm

As I posted in the other thread, KK shut down could mean is that ETS Group is in its own financial troubles or is finally tired of funding loss making airline.

As we have witnessed KK has chased one business model after to another largely without much financial success. Tons of managers have come and gone as company restrucured. Seems things maybe finally have come to an end.

My own interesting memory of KK was helping them look at leases of ex VS A340s for US and Thailand services. In many ways glad it never worked out as plan was dubious in my view as the company and Turkish aviation sector was much smaller at the time.
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:59 am

Has anyone offered rescue fares? I am sure there are a lot of stranded passengers right now.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:51 am

According to their statement All procedures regarding involuntary change and/or refund will be announced on December 16th.

Tickets sales will be suspended until December 16.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:00 am

LAXintl wrote:
AtlasGlobal is owned by ETS Group which was founded by two brothers in early 1990s.

One indeed is a minister currently. Other brother also previously served in government. Group and companies are managed independently with own boards these days.


This needs a little correction, they split everything up couple of years ago as the twin brothers never got along when it comes to business. So atlas has nothing to do with ETS for a long time.

Mehmet Ersoy took over the hotels and ETS tour operator, Murat Ersoy took over the airline. And he also tried to come back to the TO business as atlas holidays but never worked out.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:32 pm

Now that KK is gone, Air Serbia will be making a comeback at IST. Three weekly flights starting from 11th December 2019.
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:45 pm

Turkish latest 789 LLG at the fuel dock at PAE

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https://twitter.com/PlanesAtPaine/statu ... 95360?s=20
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:59 pm

TK's first Airbus A350-900 (TC-LPA) is out of final assembly in Toulouse: https://www.flickr.com/photos/146519169 ... 142099667/
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:43 pm

the answer is probably quite simple, but please allow me to ask: how is 8Q able to operate on the very same day flights as "8Q - Onurair" and "5Q - Holiday Europe" (their Bulgarian subsidiary)? It's surely not illegal, otherwise authorities wouldn't have allowed it, but very obvious that it's more or less the same aircraft, crew and company.

An example from FR24 / TC-OED :
23 Nov 2019 Frankfurt (FRA) Antalya (AYT) 8Q6104 2:53 20:00 20:35 01:25
23 Nov 2019 Fuerteventura (FUE) Frankfurt (FRA) 5Q6004 4:06 — 13:58 —
23 Nov 2019 Frankfurt (FRA) Fuerteventura (FUE) 5Q6003 3:56 — 08:51 —
23 Nov 2019 Antalya (AYT) Frankfurt (FRA) 8Q6103 3:16 06:00 06:02 07:40
 
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Re: Turkish Aviation November 2019

Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:47 pm

Please continue here: Turkish Aviation December 2019
Moderators, please archive this thread, since I've started a new one. Thank you :)

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