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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:38 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Can anyone confirm that B6 is operating out of gates; 10?, 16A, 16, 17, 18

And AC; 11, 12, 13, 14, 15


B6 is presently operating out of Gates 16; 16A; 17; and 18 (18 is a CUTE gate, but B6 uses it WestJet used to use it in the summer) Gate 17 is a widebody capable gate, so AC uses it for the YVR daily.
AC is using Gates 11; 12; 14 & 15. (14 & 15 were WN's gates, now AC uses them from time to time) 14 thru 17 used to be UA's gates till the merger and satellite swap with B6.
No one is using Gate 10 right now. WN used to operate it, but I don't think that no one else will use it.
There is no Gate 13 at EWR
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:49 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Cedar wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:

I find this hard to believe. Where exactly was WN going to go in terminal B? And if this is in fact true, that means B6 and AC are both moving to terminal B? Where are they going to fit without drastically changing their schedules?


The Delta leased & occupied space in Term B has changed and been reduced. Being that they no longer are flying international & are not using the gates to a certain amount, the PANYNJ has taken back previously dedicated counter space & 3 gates from them - through their newly negotiated lease contract. This is where WN was going, they were getting dedicated counter & gate space until the Term one is finished.
Also, that does not mean B6 & AC are moving as well - the demolition & construction is being done in phases, so PANYNJ will only need to move 1 or 2 carriers at a time.

Cedar


Who is your source?



My source is me - I am in a position to know what the inner workings of the terminal are.

In order to answer some other questions on "where they could fit in terminal B" - there is a group of counters at the end where DL used to have their international operation. Those have remained empty since the last CDG flight DL operated. As for the gates, NK is currently using gates on the B1 & B2 satelite. The gate on B1 is one of the gates PANYNJ has taken back. However, they are not using all of the available gates that DL has given up. That is what F9 using.
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:52 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Cedar wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:

I find this hard to believe. Where exactly was WN going to go in terminal B? And if this is in fact true, that means B6 and AC are both moving to terminal B? Where are they going to fit without drastically changing their schedules?


The Delta leased & occupied space in Term B has changed and been reduced. Being that they no longer are flying international & are not using the gates to a certain amount, the PANYNJ has taken back previously dedicated counter space & 3 gates from them - through their newly negotiated lease contract. This is where WN was going, they were getting dedicated counter & gate space until the Term one is finished.
Also, that does not mean B6 & AC are moving as well - the demolition & construction is being done in phases, so PANYNJ will only need to move 1 or 2 carriers at a time.

Cedar


Who is your source?



My source is me - I am in a position to know what the inner workings of the terminal.

In order to answer some other questions on "where they could fit in terminal B" - there is a group of counters at the end where DL used to have their international operation. Those have remained empty since the last CDG flight DL operated. As for the gates, NK is currently using gates on the B1 & B2 satelite. The gate on B1 is one of the gates PANYNJ has taken back. However, they are not using all of the available gates that DL has given up. That is what F9 using.

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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:12 pm

T5towbar wrote:
Gate 17 is the only widebody capable gate in A1 at present. (16 & 17 used to be widebody capable from the old UA days)


I've seen AC put 789s from Vancouver into 17.
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:35 pm

maps4ltd wrote:
T5towbar wrote:
Gate 17 is the only widebody capable gate in A1 at present. (16 & 17 used to be widebody capable from the old UA days)


I've seen AC put 789s from Vancouver into 17.


That's what AC uses every day for the YVR turn. The rest of the time, it's a B6 gate (also the gate of departure for UA93 on 9/11/01).
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:38 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Can anyone confirm that B6 is operating out of gates; 10?, 16A, 16, 17, 18

And AC; 11, 12, 13, 14, 15



B6 will start using gate 30 today.
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:13 pm

Just arrived at EWR via B6. A1 setup:

AC: 14 and 15 with 17 for the Vancouver 787
B6: 16, 16A, 17, 18.

10, 11, 12 are vacant gates. Can post pictures to prove it when I am home.
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:25 pm

len90 wrote:
Just arrived at EWR via B6. A1 setup:

AC: 14 and 15 with 17 for the Vancouver 787
B6: 16, 16A, 17, 18.

10, 11, 12 are vacant gates. Can post pictures to prove it when I am home.


They are indeed vacant, and I believe even the seating has been stripped out (can't remember, been a long week). I wonder if those concrete construction barriers behind those gates preclude aircraft from getting in and out of the back corner there.
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:36 pm

trueblew wrote:
len90 wrote:
Just arrived at EWR via B6. A1 setup:

AC: 14 and 15 with 17 for the Vancouver 787
B6: 16, 16A, 17, 18.

10, 11, 12 are vacant gates. Can post pictures to prove it when I am home.


They are indeed vacant, and I believe even the seating has been stripped out (can't remember, been a long week). I wonder if those concrete construction barriers behind those gates preclude aircraft from getting in and out of the back corner there.


That’s interesting to say the least, I guess B6 and AC are now sharing gate 15 because I’ve been monitoring their flights going there. But thank you for your insight!
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:58 pm

10;11; and 12 are now vacant. The Blast fence at Gate 10 now has a barriers (along with the snow plow equipment) and "No Parking" signs at the blast fence. There was GSE parked there, but it is now cleared out. There is more construction that is started in front of 11 & 12 and you cannot bring in any planes to those gates. A whole pile of UA and Menzies (who handles AC) equipment is on those gates now. That is why AC is now using 14 & 15. The construction can still proceed with AC & B6 there, but it that corner it is closer to the construction. The new terminal construction is proceeding well.

I didn't know that Jet Blue and AC sharing gate 15.
Also, I see a B6 320 in the alley between A2 and A3 (between from 27 / 30. I must have been seeing things this morning. Will B6 be using Gate 30 from AS? (although AS has quite a few 738/9 from 30 and 31.)
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:06 pm

T5towbar wrote:
10;11; and 12 are now vacant. The Blast fence at Gate 10 now has a barriers (along with the snow plow equipment) and "No Parking" signs at the blast fence. There was GSE parked there, but it is now cleared out. There is more construction that is started in front of 11 & 12 and you cannot bring in any planes to those gates. A whole pile of UA and Menzies (who handles AC) equipment is on those gates now. That is why AC is now using 14 & 15. The construction can still proceed with AC & B6 there, but it that corner it is closer to the construction. The new terminal construction is proceeding well.

I didn't know that Jet Blue and AC sharing gate 15.
Also, I see a B6 320 in the alley between A2 and A3 (between from 27 / 30. I must have been seeing things this morning. Will B6 be using Gate 30 from AS? (although AS has quite a few 738/9 from 30 and 31.)



B6 will be operating out of 30 going forward due to an increase in the flight schedule.
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:27 am

10, 11, 12 still have some seating, not nearly as much as when WN was at 10 and AC in 11 and 12, but there is at least something there. No more workstations for the gate agent at any of those three gates. They've seen their final aircraft operations.

Had no idea B6 used A15 at all... can it be while AC has the 787 on the ground in 17 B6 gets use of 15?
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:53 pm

B6 has aN A321 in gate A30. I know the gates they have on A1 can handle 321s
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:58 pm

len90 wrote:
10, 11, 12 still have some seating, not nearly as much as when WN was at 10 and AC in 11 and 12, but there is at least something there. No more workstations for the gate agent at any of those three gates. They've seen their final aircraft operations.

Had no idea B6 used A15 at all... can it be while AC has the 787 on the ground in 17 B6 gets use of 15?


It appears gate 15 is typically used for the E190s from BOS. Now the times exactly, I’m not so sure.
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:00 pm

len90 wrote:
B6 has aN A321 in gate A30. I know the gates they have on A1 can handle 321s


Well gate 30 is there’s now, so it is my impression that they are using it for both the 320 and 321.
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:49 am

maps4ltd wrote:
T5towbar wrote:
Gate 17 is the only widebody capable gate in A1 at present. (16 & 17 used to be widebody capable from the old UA days)


I've seen AC put 789s from Vancouver into 17.


I've seen AC put a 773 on C126
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:14 am

Isn't Frontier taking the gates as well?
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 4:57 am

SQ789 wrote:
Isn't Frontier taking the gates as well?

Frontier is in B2; 55 and 57 are the gates they have been using. Frontier’s planes are serviced by Menzies at Newark.
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:46 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
len90 wrote:
B6 has aN A321 in gate A30. I know the gates they have on A1 can handle 321s


Well gate 30 is there’s now, so it is my impression that they are using it for both the 320 and 321.

Who was using gate 30 before?
 
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:52 pm

tphuang wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
len90 wrote:
B6 has aN A321 in gate A30. I know the gates they have on A1 can handle 321s


Well gate 30 is there’s now, so it is my impression that they are using it for both the 320 and 321.

Who was using gate 30 before?


AS
They have used the Gate 30 and continues to use it now. I guess they are sharing it with B6.
AS just pushed off 739 off 30 as I’m writing this.
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Re: Update on WN’a facilities at EWR?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:51 am

Nicknuzzii wrote:
That’s interesting to say the least, I guess B6 and AC are now sharing gate 15 because I’ve been monitoring their flights going there. But thank you for your insight!


I've seen a B6 jet on one of the AC gates whilst the YVR 787 was on B6's gate. I assumed that was part of the arrangement.
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