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White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:01 am

Does anyone know the registrations?

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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:16 am

I know one of the 727s in question is stored adjacent to the DART light rail line on the west side of the DAL property (if I can remember when I pass by the area tomorrow, I'll confirm that tail number).

I don't know if this is the correct plane in question, but I stumbled across this at a Pan Am fan site:

N374PA, Boeing 727-214, Clipper Flying Arrow, notes: C/n 20679, originally delivered to Pacific Southwest Airlines on 11 May 1973, registered N551PS. It was sold to Pan Am on 27 December 1984, who in turn sold it to Travis Ecology, Inc., in May 1985, who then leased it back to Pan Am. Over the ensuing years, this airliner was owned by several leasing companies, while still being flown by Pam Am. Ultimately, Pan Am returned this Boeing 727-214 on 5 December 1991, after which it was withdrawn from use and placed in storage at Albuquerque, New Mexico. It was last reported to be in the fleet of Harco Air, registered 5N-PAL, in 1995.

Source: http://www.panam-world.org/pan-ams-boei ... -overview/

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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:38 am

Here's one I saw @ DAL in October of 2018. I don't remember the reg



EDIT...went back and checked the unedited file.
Looks like N615PA or N615RA or N616PA or N616RA
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:46 am

727LOVER wrote:
Here's one I saw @ DAL in October of 2018. I don't remember the reg



EDIT...went back and checked the unedited file.
Looks like N615PA or N615RA or N616PA or N616RA


Now that you mention it, I think it is N615PA that's at DAL. And, no, the PA suffix had nothing to do with Pan Am.

It was most recently registered to an outfit called Caribbean Cargo Carriers in 2013 and was previously registered under the same tail number to a company called Aircorp, whose listed address was 8611 Lemmon in Dallas.

N615PA originally entered service as I-DIRO for Alitalia in 1976, then went to People's Express as N573PE in 1984 (subsequently to CO in 1987) before going through multiple charter operators in the 1990s and early 2000s. After a stint for Cargojet (C-GMSJ) in 2005, it ended up with Aircorp in 2006, when it picked up its current tail number.
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:45 pm

The all white 727 aircraft at ABQ was donated to the city of Albuquerque by FedEx, B-727-200 N485FE. It was intended to be used for firefighter training or educational purposes, not sure if it has been used for either. It is currently parked minus engines on the west end of the airport just south of the abandoned Eclipse facility. It is painted all white with the ABQ Sunport logo on the tail.

There is also a B-727-200 fuselage without wings or tail in Delta '97 (Ron Allen) colors as well as an unknown bare metal B-737-200 parked on the south side of the airport just south of the cargo ramp area.
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:41 pm

For those at ABQ that want to see the white 727. It is visible at a distance from the terminal concourse. For a closer look if street side, take Sunport Blvd exit off I-25 then east to University Blvd. Go about a third of a mile south on University then left onto a GA access/delivery road. The white 727 will be about 1/2 mile down on the left and the Delta 727 fuselage and bare 737 will be about 3/4 mile beyond that on the left.
Not sure why anyone would go out of their way to see derelict 727 and 737s but if you want to, you know where to look. :lol:
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:04 pm

slcguy wrote:
For those at ABQ that want to see the 727. It is visible at a distance from the terminal concourse. For a little closer look if street side, take Sunport Blvd. exit off I-25 then east to University Blvd. Then about a third of a mile south on University to a left onto a GA/delivery road. The white 727 will be about 1/2 mile down on the left and the Delta 727 fuselage and bare 737 will be about 3/4 mile beyond that on the left.
Not sure why anyone would go out of their way to see derelict 727 and 737s but if you want to you know where to look. :lol:


https://www.google.com/maps/place/35%C2%B002'21.2%22N+106%C2%B037'22.9%22W/@35.0392234,-106.6252187,915m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d35.0392186!4d-106.6230303

Excellent description, and it is visible on Google Satellites. They're updating a lot more than they used to...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/32%C2%B050'27.9%22N+96%C2%B051'21.5%22W/@32.8410851,-96.8565272,235m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d32.841084!4d-96.85598

Equally as fantastic a description!

Both are also visible from street view. I made screenshots, but one can visit Google Maps and use street view and see them.

Dallas: Image

ABQ: Image
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Sun Nov 10, 2019 5:30 pm

ctrabs0114 wrote:
Now that you mention it, I think it is N615PA that's at DAL. And, no, the PA suffix had nothing to do with Pan Am.

It was most recently registered to an outfit called Caribbean Cargo Carriers in 2013 and was previously registered under the same tail number to a company called Aircorp, whose listed address was 8611 Lemmon in Dallas.



Paradigm Air Operators, based at DAL, related to Aircorp.
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:31 pm

I saw and photographed the Sunport B727 in 2017.

I will check my pictures and see if I got the other ones.
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:49 pm

N615PA from Denton Dr in Dallas, Tx 11-10-19.
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:52 pm

N615PA from Denton Dr in Dallas, Tx 11-10-19.
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:34 am

And what about the 2 727's @ DEN ?
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:45 am

rw774477 wrote:
And what about the 2 727's @ DEN ?

One is former FedEx and both are used for deicing training.
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:42 am

MO11 wrote:
ctrabs0114 wrote:
Now that you mention it, I think it is N615PA that's at DAL. And, no, the PA suffix had nothing to do with Pan Am.

It was most recently registered to an outfit called Caribbean Cargo Carriers in 2013 and was previously registered under the same tail number to a company called Aircorp, whose listed address was 8611 Lemmon in Dallas.



Paradigm Air Operators, based at DAL, related to Aircorp.


The one in DAL was flying the Houston Rockets around until maybe 5-6 years ago.
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:58 am

tb727 wrote:

The one in DAL was flying the Houston Rockets around until maybe 5-6 years ago.


I think that was was N104HR (a white 727 operated by the same company). It was abandoned in Phoenix in 2014, and was eventually ferried to Marana.
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:59 am

There's a 727 here in the UK at Doncaster Sheffield, G-OSRA. Apparently the last one to be built. Flys for 2 Excel as an oil spill response.
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:06 pm

If you want UK B727, then Kemble has 2 1/2.
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:27 pm

We have one in FAO. Reg 9Q-CMC. It's owner, Jean-Pierre Bemba was arrested in Belgium on war crimes charges by the ICC, although he was released last year. Strangely, he's never been back to pick it up.

I have no idea of the daily charges in FAO, but I would imagine the costs have exceeded the value of the a/c.
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:42 pm

reg's of DEN FedEx 727's ?
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:40 pm

The ABQ one is missing a couple engines, so pretty sure it's not an active A/C.

The DAL A/C looks like it was last owned by CARIBBEAN CARGO CARRIERS LLC (MUSKEGO WI)
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Mon Nov 11, 2019 9:04 pm

rw774477 wrote:
reg's of DEN FedEx 727's ?


The all-white 727-222 with the smiley face was N7285U and still has full 90s UA interior.

Ex-FedEx 727-22 was N192FE (started life as N7072U.)
 
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:00 am

I saw two 727s at ELP (One was a -200, missing engines, and one looked to be a -100) around March of this year.

Anyone have any idea? I have a picture of the (I think) -100:

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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:05 pm

MO11 wrote:
tb727 wrote:

The one in DAL was flying the Houston Rockets around until maybe 5-6 years ago.


I think that was was N104HR (a white 727 operated by the same company). It was abandoned in Phoenix in 2014, and was eventually ferried to Marana.


Paradigm operated one for the Coyotes too, I think you are correct, the Rockets may have stopped using the 727 in 2013.
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Re: White 727's 2 at DAL and ABQ

Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:24 am

tb727 wrote:
MO11 wrote:
tb727 wrote:

The one in DAL was flying the Houston Rockets around until maybe 5-6 years ago.


I think that was was N104HR (a white 727 operated by the same company). It was abandoned in Phoenix in 2014, and was eventually ferried to Marana.


Paradigm operated one for the Coyotes too, I think you are correct, the Rockets may have stopped using the 727 in 2013.


N615PA also did charters for the New Jersey Devils at one point in the early- to mid-2000s, for what that's worth.
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