Pontius wrote:"A simple write up in the aircraft log" requires contact with the Maintenance Control desk, after which the MEL would be applied. Between holding on the phone for your mx controller, looking up the specific MEL within the 1000 page document, documenting the application of the MEL item in the aircraft log, preparing and applying placards.....it's a process that routinely consumes 15 minutes. Count yourself fortunate.
zeke wrote:Coffee maker should not be in the MEL.
737max8 wrote:zeke wrote:Coffee maker should not be in the MEL.
But they are....good thing it wasn't day 120 and it would have to be grounded until a new one came in
openskies88 wrote:zeke wrote:Coffee maker should not be in the MEL. This is a a simple cabin defect.
At my airline they’re not... Just pull the circuit breaker and slap an INOP sticker on it.
SANMAN66 wrote:I was on a flight that was delayed on pushback for several minutes because one of the toilets was not flushing correctly.
longhauler wrote:SANMAN66 wrote:I was on a flight that was delayed on pushback for several minutes because one of the toilets was not flushing correctly.
Again. Like the coffee maker itself, it’s what its failure of a flush pump enroute could eventually become.
Under normal circumstances it is far better to electrically secure the device before departure, whatever it does.
A320FlyGuy wrote:Don’t forget...it was a malfunctioning flush motor that led to Air Canada Flight 797....I’d happily take a delay for an electrical item to be isolated/secured.
longhauler wrote:A320FlyGuy wrote:Don’t forget...it was a malfunctioning flush motor that led to Air Canada Flight 797....I’d happily take a delay for an electrical item to be isolated/secured.
The cause of AC797 was never determined. It was however determined that the flush pump motor was not the cause of the fire. The fire caused the flush pump motor to malfunction and pop the circuit breakers, not the other way around.
The rest of your statement is 110% correct, IMO.
slcguy wrote:Yesterday I was on a flight that was delayed on pushback for 15 minutes due to a malfunctioning coffee maker (all the lights on it started blinking when it was turned on). While the delay was no big deal as it was short and we still got to destination on time it made me wonder. Don't know if this is an MEL item but they had to notify company/maintenance and get verification that the aircraft was still in service. The crew kept the passengers up to date on the situation, at least two PA announcements by the pilots. Is this normal for such a minor problem? Seems a simple write up in the aircraft log that the coffee maker was inop would have sufficed.
For those interested in details:
Delta/Skywest flight 3818 on 11/6/19
ABQ-SLC, E-175 N254SY
A320FlyGuy wrote:I read both the NTSB report and also a McDonnell Douglas investigation and it said the flush motor couldn’t be vindicated either way...it’s one of those things I guess we will never know.
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