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FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:37 am

"minor collision" between Korean Air B777 and Air Namibia A330(?) at FRA. Horizontal stabilizer of KE B777, which had just landed, and winglet of SW A330 were damaged. Luckily no injuries, as SW was moving at "slow speed". Does anyone have more details?

https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN2019111700 ... ction=news

https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaf ... 89594.html
 
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:26 am

Maybe it's time for planes to feature proxomity sensors like in cars in our days?
I mean, those kind of incidents happen at least onece a month recently (correct me if I'm wrong).
 
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:29 am

OmerMaz wrote:
Maybe it's time for planes to feature proxomity sensors like in cars in our days?
I mean, those kind of incidents happen at least onece a month recently (correct me if I'm wrong).


I wonder about this too. I mean, those things are damn small and easy to attach to a car.. how can it be that more complicate on an airplane?! o.O

It would be even more helpfull in case of bird strike etc. to let the pilots be aware of the case!
 
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:14 am

vahancrazy wrote:
OmerMaz wrote:
Maybe it's time for planes to feature proxomity sensors like in cars in our days?
I mean, those kind of incidents happen at least onece a month recently (correct me if I'm wrong).


I wonder about this too. I mean, those things are damn small and easy to attach to a car.. how can it be that more complicate on an airplane?! o.O

It would be even more helpfull in case of bird strike etc. to let the pilots be aware of the case!


A bird could change it's direction at any time.
Aside from that, a passenger plane isn't as nimble as even a fighter-bomber that in can dodge it in a split second.
 
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:26 am

OmerMaz wrote:
vahancrazy wrote:
OmerMaz wrote:
Maybe it's time for planes to feature proxomity sensors like in cars in our days?
I mean, those kind of incidents happen at least onece a month recently (correct me if I'm wrong).


I wonder about this too. I mean, those things are damn small and easy to attach to a car.. how can it be that more complicate on an airplane?! o.O

It would be even more helpfull in case of bird strike etc. to let the pilots be aware of the case!


A bird could change it's direction at any time.
Aside from that, a passenger plane isn't as nimble as even a fighter-bomber that in can dodge it in a split second.

A bird - maybe, but a taxiying airplane is slower than a car...
 
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:44 am

kalvado wrote:
OmerMaz wrote:
vahancrazy wrote:

I wonder about this too. I mean, those things are damn small and easy to attach to a car.. how can it be that more complicate on an airplane?! o.O

It would be even more helpfull in case of bird strike etc. to let the pilots be aware of the case!


A bird could change it's direction at any time.
Aside from that, a passenger plane isn't as nimble as even a fighter-bomber that in can dodge it in a split second.

A bird - maybe, but a taxiying airplane is slower than a car...



Yeah, on thr ground it's feasible, in the air, regarding birds? That's a different story
 
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 11:49 am

Sounds like a lot of complexity, wiring, sensors, integration for something that a) happens very infrequently in the grand scheme of things and b) causes only minor trouble (yes, bit of money is minor trouble).
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:44 pm

Looks to me like it was at approximately 1715z yesterday (Nov16). KE905, 77W HL7204, had just landed, as had SW203, 332 V5-ANO. Both Aircraft are still at FRA according to FR24.

Both aircraft landed on 25L, and appear to have come together whilst KE was holding at Taxiway M8, waiting to cross 25C, while SW was seemingly heading for M6.
 
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:21 pm

Proximity sensors would be useless, they're not used when driving last time I checked, only to detect very slow moving people and mostly fixed objects, very close to the car.

Cameras with a smart software behind would probably work though, as used on an autopilot equipped Tesla.
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Re: FRA "minor collision" KE + SW

Sun Nov 17, 2019 5:35 pm

Suffice to say that'll hurt SW way more than KE...
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