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Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:12 pm

In the mid of the Max crisis, Boeing rolled out the newest and biggest 737 Max family aircraft with thousand of employees.

While being longer than the Max 9 and so featuring a greater capacitiy, it also has a new redesigned Main Landing Gear (MLG).

For pictures and more Information: https://aeronewsglobal.com/boeing-737-m ... in-renton/
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:19 pm

Wow that went under the radar! Wish Boeing all the best in getting this new baby off the ground! Hope it’s sales momentum resumes soon.
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:24 pm

It would be nice to see a photo of the 737-200 next to all 4 MAX 737 types.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:30 pm

Congrats Boeing!

The aircraft looks proportional and sleek, but the added length makes it seem even lower to the ground than the other models.

Hopefully it has a bright future.

The official Boeing Twitter account @BoeingAirplanes have not even mentioned this. There's nothing at all. Imagine rolling out your latest aircraft type, and there's no mention of it in any social media by official accounts. There's just one short press release on the Boeing website.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:35 pm

Looking forward to its first flight!
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:38 pm

Will this be likely to take away sales from the -9? I'm guessing this will have much better runway performance with the enhanced landing gear.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:39 pm

sunking737 wrote:
It would be nice to see a photo of the 737-200 next to all 4 MAX 737 types.


Heck, there's a -100 at the Museum of Flight. Get them together for a comparison of extremes.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:43 pm

The -100 is nearly 50 feet shorter compared to the MAX10. Think the engineers on the -100 project would had ever imagined this model growing to that size?

Is there an option for a door where there arent any windows forward of the engines? Be nice to be able to load this one like the 757.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:48 pm

Elementalism wrote:
Is there an option for a door where there arent any windows forward of the engines? Be nice to be able to load this one like the 757.


IIRC, there are some air ducts that go through there from the engines to the AC packs, so no can do.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:56 pm

TTailedTiger wrote:
Will this be likely to take away sales from the -9? I'm guessing this will have much better runway performance with the enhanced landing gear.


I wouldn't be surprised if the new landing gear were fitted to a 737-9. If the 737-9 could fly from MDW with a full load of 200 passengers and cargo to any commercial airport in the US with improved field performance due to the MAX 10 landing gear, it would be great for WN.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:09 pm

It's a two engine 720.
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:19 pm

I guess it can make it's first flight soon, with an "experimental" exemption.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:20 pm

keesje wrote:
I guess it can make it's first flight soon, with an "experimental" exemption.


That would be the case even if the MAX's Type Certificate had not been suspended?
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:22 pm

keesje wrote:
I guess it can make it's first flight soon, with an "experimental" exemption.

Calm down, that's the same for all test flights before the aircraft is certified.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:23 pm

keesje wrote:
I guess it can make it's first flight soon, with an "experimental" exemption.

All first flights are done on an experimental ticket, even variants. Do you think planes get certified before first flight?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:24 pm

Congratulations to Boeing on this milestone. I really like the proportions of the -10.

I wonder how much more they can grow the MTOW eventually? Right now it has the same MTOW as the -9?
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:28 pm

DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.

:rotfl:

Funny, but true. What does it say about me that I understood that statement fully.

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Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:39 pm

lightsaber wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.

:rotfl:

Funny, but true. What does it say about me that I understood that statement fully.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:49 pm

So am I right in remembering this one does not need MCAS due to higher landing gear, so engines not moved forward similar to 7/8/9?
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:51 pm

I wasn't keen on the 737-900, ER since it looked like odd duck, but the 737-10 actually looks well proportioned. It's a pity what's occurred with the MAX type since no one had an idea they were already building the -10. I truly hope Boeing gets those kinks fixed on the MAX and get these birds off the ground, and see this bird in flight since like some have mentioned its a bloody 720 with two engines. :)
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:12 pm

The new UA EvoBlu livery should look stunning on their Max 10's :)
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:31 pm

I just checked Seattle Times website & didn't see story of the rollout posted yet.

Makes me wonder if the 777X first flight will occur without any prior public notice?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:46 pm

ShamrockBoi330 wrote:
So am I right in remembering this one does not need MCAS due to higher landing gear, so engines not moved forward similar to 7/8/9?

Isn't it more that it doesn't need MCAS due to the greater length of the fuselage, hence higher torque from the horizontal stabilizer and better control?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:57 pm

emre787 wrote:
In the mid of the Max crisis, Boeing rolled out the newest and biggest 737 Max family aircraft with thousand of employees.


They kept that quiet. Congratulations to everyone working on this great aircraft, and not under the easiest of circumstances. I think it will be a very solid addition to the MAX family

TTailedTiger wrote:
Will this be likely to take away sales from the -9? I'm guessing this will have much better runway performance with the enhanced landing gear.


It has felt to me as if the MAX 9 was in a bit of a no-mans land.
I think the -10 is much better equipped to reply to the A321, being much closer in capacity.
Not everyone needs the extra range capability the A321 NEO can bring in its higher weight variants.
My answer to your question is "yes".

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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:08 pm

astuteman wrote:
It has felt to me as if the MAX 9 was in a bit of a no-mans land. I think the -10 is much better equipped to reply to the A321, being much closer in capacity.


The 737-9 will end up being a stepping stone to the 737-10 for most operators, I imagine. The 737-9 will likely appeal to two-class (2+2/3+3) operators just as the 737-900 did since it offers a nice capacity boost beyond the 737-8. But I expect the single-class operators will move to the 737-10 as the economics will favor it in such configurations.
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:12 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
The new UA EvoBlu livery should look stunning on their Max 10's :)


How many on order with UA? Any other US carriers with orders?
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:19 pm

twaconnie wrote:
How many on order with UA? Any other US carriers with orders?


UA have 100 on order. They are currently the only US carrier with them on order, though Alaska, American and Southwest all are MAX customers so they could be potential future customers.
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:22 pm

Its the prettiest 737 to date in my opinion. Man its such a shame that Boeing effed the MAX up so much, id have love to have seen that flying sooner than later, doubt itll be delivered by the 2022 now.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:23 pm

What's with all the missing windows around where the cabin divider would be? Mid-cabin lav?
 
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Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:30 pm

ShamrockBoi330 wrote:
So am I right in remembering this one does not need MCAS due to higher landing gear, so engines not moved forward similar to 7/8/9?


Per the pic in the link, engines still look pretty high and forward mounted. :?:
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:07 am

I guess the engines, engine mountings are identical as other 737 MAX aircraft.
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:23 am

hiflyeras wrote:
What's with all the missing windows around where the cabin divider would be? Mid-cabin lav?


Most likely.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:27 am

Note that the registration number is listed on the United Fleet Website as the first UA 737-10 aircraft, presumably after certification is complete. I would also suspect the aft emergency exit will be swapped with a fixed plug (with a window) like on UA's 737-900ER and 737-9.
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:35 am

airplanedriver6 wrote:
Note that the registration number is listed on the United Fleet Website as the first UA 737-10 aircraft, presumably after certification is complete. I would also suspect the aft emergency exit will be swapped with a fixed plug (with a window) like on UA's 737-900ER and 737-9.

I thought this version actually needed that emergency exit
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 12:56 am

msp747 wrote:
airplanedriver6 wrote:
Note that the registration number is listed on the United Fleet Website as the first UA 737-10 aircraft, presumably after certification is complete. I would also suspect the aft emergency exit will be swapped with a fixed plug (with a window) like on UA's 737-900ER and 737-9.

I thought this version actually needed that emergency exit

In an all economy config, I'm sure it does. (Just like the 737-900ER and 737-9)

For a less dense operator like UA, I'm not sure how a 66 inch stretch makes it worth it if half of the stretch is used by an additional exit.
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:04 am

airplanedriver6 wrote:
msp747 wrote:
airplanedriver6 wrote:
Note that the registration number is listed on the United Fleet Website as the first UA 737-10 aircraft, presumably after certification is complete. I would also suspect the aft emergency exit will be swapped with a fixed plug (with a window) like on UA's 737-900ER and 737-9.

I thought this version actually needed that emergency exit

In an all economy config, I'm sure it does. (Just like the 737-900ER and 737-9)

For a less dense operator like UA, I'm not sure how a 66 inch stretch makes it worth it if half of the stretch is used by an additional exit.


I believe if it stays under 189 and under it will be good with a plugged door. However I’m not sure that would be legal with that distance between the rear exits and overwinter exits. I don’t have the details.
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:09 am

WayexTDI wrote:
Isn't it more that it doesn't need MCAS due to the greater length of the fuselage, hence higher torque from the horizontal stabilizer and better control?


ok, i'll take your word for it! t

hought i remembered reading somewhere that with the additional height given by this new landing gear, the engines could be mounted under wing similar to the NG and not have to move forward and raise a little like the other MAX!

But for whatever reason, I was right this one doesn't have MCAS?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:09 am

ShamrockBoi330 wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
Isn't it more that it doesn't need MCAS due to the greater length of the fuselage, hence higher torque from the horizontal stabilizer and better control?


ok, i'll take your word for it! t

hought i remembered reading somewhere that with the additional height given by this new landing gear, the engines could be mounted under wing similar to the NG and not have to move forward and raise a little like the other MAX!

But for whatever reason, I was right this one doesn't have MCAS?


The landing gear does not increase its height over the ground. It only moves the rotation point further aft. Increasing the height would be impossible without adding evacuation slides to the overwing exits.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:11 am

ShamrockBoi330 wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
Isn't it more that it doesn't need MCAS due to the greater length of the fuselage, hence higher torque from the horizontal stabilizer and better control?


ok, i'll take your word for it! t

hought i remembered reading somewhere that with the additional height given by this new landing gear, the engines could be mounted under wing similar to the NG and not have to move forward and raise a little like the other MAX!

But for whatever reason, I was right this one doesn't have MCAS?


I don't know if it is officially confirmed that the MAX10 doesn't have MCAS. Your memory about engines had to be incorrect. The gear only extends at rotation to prevent tail strikes. Nothing to do with engine ground clearance.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 2:20 am

VSMUT wrote:

The landing gear does not increase its height over the ground. It only moves the rotation point further aft. Increasing the height would be impossible without adding evacuation slides to the overwing exits.


planecane wrote:
I don't know if it is officially confirmed that the MAX10 doesn't have MCAS. Your memory about engines had to be incorrect. The gear only extends at rotation to prevent tail strikes. Nothing to do with engine ground clearance.


Got it... my mistake, that makes sense!

Thanks!
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:07 am

DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.


Even closer to the 707-120B in length. Can we have a two engine DC-8 as well please?
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:17 am

Natflyer wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.


Even closer to the 707-120B in length. Can we have a two engine DC-8 as well please?

An enduring legacy, and even closer when you realise grandfathering (though wasn't called that in those days) can be traced right back from the MAX to the 720/707 family.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:30 am

First, for umpteenth time, it’s an amended TC, nothing is grandfathered. Second, the 707 is a different type certificate from the 727 or 737. Amateurs may be otherwise, but they’re different.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:03 am

Yuck.

Bring back the 757 please.
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:26 am

DeltaConnection wrote:
Yuck.

Bring back the 757 please.

Wow, it took 44 replies to get this! I would've guessed around 10-15!! :lol:

It's a good looking aircraft, but it look a little like a dachshund to me! :stirthepot:
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:29 am

Looks amazing! Congratz to Boeing!
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 6:53 am

flyingclrs727 wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
Will this be likely to take away sales from the -9? I'm guessing this will have much better runway performance with the enhanced landing gear.

I wouldn't be surprised if the new landing gear were fitted to a 737-9. If the 737-9 could fly from MDW with a full load of 200 passengers and cargo to any commercial airport in the US with improved field performance due to the MAX 10 landing gear, it would be great for WN.

The 737-9 is already a slow seller - how many extra new sales will the new gear bring to justify the additional testing/certification costs for a revised undercarriage? Boeing will probably ask customers to order the 737-10 instead.
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:15 am

WayexTDI wrote:
ShamrockBoi330 wrote:
So am I right in remembering this one does not need MCAS due to higher landing gear, so engines not moved forward similar to 7/8/9?

Isn't it more that it doesn't need MCAS due to the greater length of the fuselage, hence higher torque from the horizontal stabilizer and better control?


It has MCAS....
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:32 am

1: All 737 Max share the same engine, pylon and engine placement relative to the wing
2: All 737 Max come equipped with MCAS

The only major difference is the -10 having a telescoping MLG, which extends at rotation allowing for a larger deck angle before suffering a tail strike. This is done in order for the -10 to have the same (shitty) runway performance as the -9.

A -9 with telescoping gear might yield the same runway performance as a -8, which again is far from stellar. So if your operation dictates excellent runway performance, you should be looking at something else than a -8, -9 or -10 Max. If not, and counting on Boeing to get all the gremlins weeded out, it's a perfectly viable alternative to the Hamburgian competition.

As for the similarities with a 707/720, one is quietly confident it's operationally a lot better than that. If you're wondering what I'm on about, look up D.P. Davies.
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:48 am

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It would be nice to see a photo of the 737-200 next to all 4 MAX 737 types.


Or the 100 series that started it all.

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