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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:03 am

DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.



Actually the 737-9 is closer to the 720 series

720:
136’ 2” long, Total thrust per side 24000 to 34000 lb. st. depending on model, 3650nm range, 149 pass.

737-9:
138’ 4” long, Total thrust per side up to 29317 lb. st., 3550nm range.


737-10:
143’ 8” long, Total thrust per side up to 29317 lb. st., 3300nm range.

Put the same seats on the -9 as the 720 had & the 9 could match the range of the 720 as well.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:06 am

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So am I right in remembering this one does not need MCAS due to higher landing gear, so engines not moved forward similar to 7/8/9?


No engines in same places. Landing gear allows for greater rotation angle on T-O for substantial reduction in T-O to 50 ft. specs vs old gear.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:10 am

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hiflyeras wrote:
What's with all the missing windows around where the cabin divider would be? Mid-cabin lav?


Most likely.


AC/heat ducting goes through that area.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:16 am

flee wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
TTailedTiger wrote:
Will this be likely to take away sales from the -9? I'm guessing this will have much better runway performance with the enhanced landing gear.

I wouldn't be surprised if the new landing gear were fitted to a 737-9. If the 737-9 could fly from MDW with a full load of 200 passengers and cargo to any commercial airport in the US with improved field performance due to the MAX 10 landing gear, it would be great for WN.

The 737-9 is already a slow seller - how many extra new sales will the new gear bring to justify the additional testing/certification costs for a revised undercarriage? Boeing will probably ask customers to order the 737-10 instead.


Southwest is a big customer. The 737-10 MAX is too large to work for WN at MDW due to the short runways. A 737-9 with taller landing gear could allow better runway performance, a higher takeoff weight, and range for the 737-9. With 200 seats it would maximize the number of passengers 4 flight attendants could serve. It could also allow 200 seats between the west coast and Hawaii.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:34 am

flyingclrs727 wrote:
flee wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if the new landing gear were fitted to a 737-9. If the 737-9 could fly from MDW with a full load of 200 passengers and cargo to any commercial airport in the US with improved field performance due to the MAX 10 landing gear, it would be great for WN.

The 737-9 is already a slow seller - how many extra new sales will the new gear bring to justify the additional testing/certification costs for a revised undercarriage? Boeing will probably ask customers to order the 737-10 instead.


Southwest is a big customer. The 737-10 MAX is too large to work for WN at MDW due to the short runways. A 737-9 with taller landing gear could allow better runway performance, a higher takeoff weight, and range for the 737-9. With 200 seats it would maximize the number of passengers 4 flight attendants could serve. It could also allow 200 seats between the west coast and Hawaii.


Southwest would need the new landing gear on the -8 to allow flights from midway to any airport. Currently the -800/8 has range limits due to the short runways.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:57 am

rbavfan wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
flee wrote:
The 737-9 is already a slow seller - how many extra new sales will the new gear bring to justify the additional testing/certification costs for a revised undercarriage? Boeing will probably ask customers to order the 737-10 instead.


Southwest is a big customer. The 737-10 MAX is too large to work for WN at MDW due to the short runways. A 737-9 with taller landing gear could allow better runway performance, a higher takeoff weight, and range for the 737-9. With 200 seats it would maximize the number of passengers 4 flight attendants could serve. It could also allow 200 seats between the west coast and Hawaii.


Southwest would need the new landing gear on the -8 to allow flights from midway to any airport. Currently the -800/8 has range limits due to the short runways.


But what about the 737-8 MAX with the short field.performance package?
 
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Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:10 am

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lightsaber wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.

:rotfl:

Funny, but true. What does it say about me that I understood that statement fully.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:29 am

flyingclrs727 wrote:
flee wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if the new landing gear were fitted to a 737-9. If the 737-9 could fly from MDW with a full load of 200 passengers and cargo to any commercial airport in the US with improved field performance due to the MAX 10 landing gear, it would be great for WN.

The 737-9 is already a slow seller - how many extra new sales will the new gear bring to justify the additional testing/certification costs for a revised undercarriage? Boeing will probably ask customers to order the 737-10 instead.


Southwest is a big customer. The 737-10 MAX is too large to work for WN at MDW due to the short runways. A 737-9 with taller landing gear could allow better runway performance, a higher takeoff weight, and range for the 737-9. With 200 seats it would maximize the number of passengers 4 flight attendants could serve. It could also allow 200 seats between the west coast and Hawaii.



Wasn’t there tall of Boeing launching a -9 ER?
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:55 am

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:16 am

Is the door aft of the wing identical to the 757 door in the same position? Ie hinged on the bottom sill?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:15 am

Didn’t the MAX10 fail its evacuation test? Or this that another a.net rumour?

Also makes me wonder why all the 737MAX’s aren't fitted with the new extendable main landing gear?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 3:42 pm

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Note that the registration number is listed on the United Fleet Website as the first UA 737-10 aircraft, presumably after certification is complete. I would also suspect the aft emergency exit will be swapped with a fixed plug (with a window) like on UA's 737-900ER and 737-9.

Indeed this aircraft will eventually become UA Ship 7751... still no idea why starting at 51 rather than 01.. :scratchchin:
Also IIRC the emergency exit is required to remain active.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:08 pm

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Also makes me wonder why all the 737MAX’s aren't fitted with the new extendable main landing gear?

Not sure why this thought would pop up. Clearly -8 and -9 are already certified, it'd be costly to do the certification work to add the new gear. Also gear would cost more to produce and would add an additional maintenance burden for operators. -7 and -8 seem fine without it, -9 will probably die off with regard to orders because -10 will work better in most people's fleets. I suppose if someone wants a -9 with better field performance they could do the work to certify the gear, but that customer would have to be making a big order to justify it. As above, the only one that seems big enough to justify that would be WN, but it seems to me Boeing won't even think about such a thing till all the MAXes are back in the air.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:11 pm

rbavfan wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.



Actually the 737-9 is closer to the 720 series

720:
136’ 2” long, Total thrust per side 24000 to 34000 lb. st. depending on model, 3650nm range, 149 pass.

737-9:
138’ 4” long, Total thrust per side up to 29317 lb. st., 3550nm range.


737-10:
143’ 8” long, Total thrust per side up to 29317 lb. st., 3300nm range.

Put the same seats on the -9 as the 720 had & the 9 could match the range of the 720 as well.

Your right, the -9 is a 720, the -10 is the 707. And the -8 is the 727. There's the rebrand, ala the MD-95 is a 717.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:20 pm

It looks like a tail strike waiting to happen.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:20 pm

DenverTed wrote:
Your right, the -9 is a 720, the -10 is the 707. And the -8 is the 727. There's the rebrand, ala the MD-95 is a 717.

Time to update the family photo (707, 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777) ?

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Ref: https://twitter.com/3topaviation/status ... 2427589632

Nice to see great-granddad B-47 off to the right of the photo!
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:21 pm

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See kids, this is what happens if you eat your vegetables and drink your glass of milk every day! :weightlifter:

Looks great! I always thought the shorter 737s (-100, -500, -600) looked squat, but the -MAX10 really makes the 737 look all grown up!
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 4:53 pm

Just another -MAX model with MCAS. Assuming they ever get this plane back in service, I will avoid this one just like all other -MAX with MCAS models.

Just hoping and that DELTA never orders these monstrosities. There could very well be a significant competitive advantage to quietly getting the word out that DELTA is a MAX-free airline.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:16 pm

This should be a really great transcontinental aircraft. Plenty of space for various configurations. Enough range for any coast to coast route. I think that's where this aircraft will shine.

I don't think we'll see it used much on sub 1000nm routes. The reason is that the long fuselage makes the boarding / deboarding process longer. Which matters less if it's flying longer routes.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:21 pm

DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.

You got it!!
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:23 pm

It's not a bad "looking" aircraft but I am sure it will be as uncomfortable as the airlines can make an aircraft. A clean slate aircraft from Boeing would have been much prefered to a stretch of a 50 year old design. An updated 757 would have been a better idea.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:25 pm

DL747400 wrote:
Just another -MAX model with MCAS. Assuming they ever get this plane back in service, I will avoid this one just like all other -MAX with MCAS models.

Just hoping and that DELTA never orders these monstrosities. There could very well be a significant competitive advantage to quietly getting the word out that DELTA is a MAX-free airline.

Airbus narrowbodies are my friend.

You are showing no respect for karma. There could be a significant competitive edge flying a plane that does not have the excess range and weight and being purchased when the vendor is motivated to sell cheap to get a marquee customer, pretty much the same reason BA just did a LOI for 200 MAXes. You may very well find yourself in the last row of a DL 787-10 some day rueing this day.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:28 pm

don0245 wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.

You got it!!

Pretty much the same thing I thought when I saw the original 737-900-not-ER.

I did a long double take while my brain tried to sort out what it was seeing.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:54 pm

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You are showing no respect for karma. There could be a significant competitive edge flying a plane that does not have the excess range and weight and being purchased when the vendor is motivated to sell cheap to get a marquee customer, pretty much the same reason BA just did a LOI for 200 MAXes.


OK, but let's also look at the flip side: There could be a significant competitive advantage (and possibly even a revenue premium?) to operating roomier aircraft which customers prefer. Wider cabin, wider aisles and greater cabin height all contribute to the perception (both a real and perceived) of a more spacious cabin.

Revelation wrote:
You may very well find yourself in the last row of a DL 787-10 some day rueing this day.


Yes please! I love the 787 and would bounce off the wall with glee if DL were to acquire them. While I prefer Airbus narrowbodies, my preference flips to Boeing for widebodies.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:59 pm

DenverTed wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
It's a two engine 720.



Actually the 737-9 is closer to the 720 series

720:
136’ 2” long, Total thrust per side 24000 to 34000 lb. st. depending on model, 3650nm range, 149 pass.

737-9:
138’ 4” long, Total thrust per side up to 29317 lb. st., 3550nm range.


737-10:
143’ 8” long, Total thrust per side up to 29317 lb. st., 3300nm range.

Put the same seats on the -9 as the 720 had & the 9 could match the range of the 720 as well.

Your right, the -9 is a 720, the -10 is the 707. And the -8 is the 727. There's the rebrand, ala the MD-95 is a 717.

The 738 was designed specifically to match the retiring 722A specs.

While the 757 was the “727 replacement” in Boeing’s portfolio, the 757/767 was actually meant to replace the 707 and DC8 in airline fleets. Airlines took on the 757 alongside the 722 for added capacity and the economics were superior, but it wasn’t cost effective to retire young 727s.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:05 pm

rbavfan wrote:
AC/heat ducting goes through that area.


I believe the ducting runs a bit farther back - where there is the blank then a window and then another blank.

The larger block of continuous blanks should be the left-hand lavatory located just aft of First Class - if you look at a UA 737-900ER, for example, that has the same lavatory configuration, there is the same blanking of windows at that location on the left side.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:04 pm

Changes to 737-10 are more than MLG and length.
Some of the others are:
Mid exit door 4" wider
MTOW ``92,000kg
Changes to flaps
Changes to Centre of Gravity to prevent "tail tip"
Autoland Changes
Changes to body configuration to reduce risk of tail strike

Refer www.737.org.uk

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:25 pm

flyingphil wrote:
Also makes me wonder why all the 737MAX’s aren't fitted with the new extendable main landing gear?


You answered your own question here:
flyingphil wrote:
new extendable main landing gear.


it's new. maybe it will find it's way to special MAX8 ShortField and MAX9ER versions..
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:31 pm

flyingclrs727 wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:

Southwest is a big customer. The 737-10 MAX is too large to work for WN at MDW due to the short runways. A 737-9 with taller landing gear could allow better runway performance, a higher takeoff weight, and range for the 737-9. With 200 seats it would maximize the number of passengers 4 flight attendants could serve. It could also allow 200 seats between the west coast and Hawaii.


Southwest would need the new landing gear on the -8 to allow flights from midway to any airport. Currently the -800/8 has range limits due to the short runways.


But what about the 737-8 MAX with the short field.performance package?

If it was effective enough WN would have purchased it for MDW among a couple others.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:35 pm

LGeneReese wrote:
airplanedriver6 wrote:
Note that the registration number is listed on the United Fleet Website as the first UA 737-10 aircraft, presumably after certification is complete. I would also suspect the aft emergency exit will be swapped with a fixed plug (with a window) like on UA's 737-900ER and 737-9.

Indeed this aircraft will eventually become UA Ship 7751... still no idea why starting at 51 rather than 01.. :scratchchin:
Also IIRC the emergency exit is required to remain active.



Because boing list them by manufacture number. They don't start each model at an 01 number.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:40 pm

JetBuddy wrote:
This should be a really great transcontinental aircraft. Plenty of space for various configurations. Enough range for any coast to coast route. I think that's where this aircraft will shine.

I don't think we'll see it used much on sub 1000nm routes. The reason is that the long fuselage makes the boarding / deboarding process longer. Which matters less if it's flying longer routes.

Wish you a long and prosperous future, Boeing 737-10.


No it does not. At MDW, DAL if a plane takes longer to load no matter the distance it will cut the number of flights/gate/day.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:05 am

ikramerica wrote:
DenverTed wrote:
rbavfan wrote:


Actually the 737-9 is closer to the 720 series

720:
136’ 2” long, Total thrust per side 24000 to 34000 lb. st. depending on model, 3650nm range, 149 pass.

737-9:
138’ 4” long, Total thrust per side up to 29317 lb. st., 3550nm range.


737-10:
143’ 8” long, Total thrust per side up to 29317 lb. st., 3300nm range.

Put the same seats on the -9 as the 720 had & the 9 could match the range of the 720 as well.

Your right, the -9 is a 720, the -10 is the 707. And the -8 is the 727. There's the rebrand, ala the MD-95 is a 717.

The 738 was designed specifically to match the retiring 722A specs.

While the 757 was the “727 replacement” in Boeing’s portfolio, the 757/767 was actually meant to replace the 707 and DC8 in airline fleets. Airlines took on the 757 alongside the 722 for added capacity and the economics were superior, but it wasn’t cost effective to retire young 727s.


Look back at adds and all the Boeing docs the 757 was designed to replace the 727-200ADV while allowing for extra seats. Dig into any Aviation week magazine in 1797 to 1983 for Boeing advo nearly every issue. The 767 was not marked directly as a 707/DC8 replacement as it was more for replacement of 1011/DC10's domestically on routes they were to large for as the markets changed after deregulation. It was not till TWA started ETOPS to the EU that the 767 became a 707/DC8 replacement. Both 757/767 were also designed to operate out of LGA & DCA airports.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:08 am

Stitch wrote:
rbavfan wrote:
AC/heat ducting goes through that area.


I believe the ducting runs a bit farther back - where there is the blank then a window and then another blank.

The larger block of continuous blanks should be the left-hand lavatory located just aft of First Class - if you look at a UA 737-900ER, for example, that has the same lavatory configuration, there is the same blanking of windows at that location on the left side.


On those models with mid lavatory they just use metal windows plugs. Not the same as no window frames cut into the fuselage. The plugs have to be checked the same as if windows were installed. Increasing maintenance cost.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:11 am

rbavfan wrote:
LGeneReese wrote:
airplanedriver6 wrote:
Note that the registration number is listed on the United Fleet Website as the first UA 737-10 aircraft, presumably after certification is complete. I would also suspect the aft emergency exit will be swapped with a fixed plug (with a window) like on UA's 737-900ER and 737-9.

Indeed this aircraft will eventually become UA Ship 7751... still no idea why starting at 51 rather than 01.. :scratchchin:
Also IIRC the emergency exit is required to remain active.



Because Boeing list them by manufacture number. They don't start each model at an 01 number.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:13 am

Ruscoe wrote:
Changes to 737-10 are more than MLG and length.
Some of the others are:
Mid exit door 4" wider
MTOW ``92,000kg
Changes to flaps
Changes to Centre of Gravity to prevent "tail tip"
Autoland Changes
Changes to body configuration to reduce risk of tail strike

Refer http://www.737.org.uk

Ruscoe



your link cannot be found.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:17 am

rbavfan wrote:
Ruscoe wrote:
Changes to 737-10 are more than MLG and length.
Some of the others are:
Mid exit door 4" wider
MTOW ``92,000kg
Changes to flaps
Changes to Centre of Gravity to prevent "tail tip"
Autoland Changes
Changes to body configuration to reduce risk of tail strike

Refer http://www.737.org.uk

Ruscoe



your link cannot be found.


I’m not the poster you quoted but try http://www.b737.org.uk/
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:21 am

DL747400 wrote:
Just another -MAX model with MCAS. Assuming they ever get this plane back in service, I will avoid this one just like all other -MAX with MCAS models.

Just hoping and that DELTA never orders these monstrosities. There could very well be a significant competitive advantage to quietly getting the word out that DELTA is a MAX-free airline.

Airbus narrowbodies are my friend.


You are in luck because the -10 doesn’t have MCAS.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:21 am

Does anyone know how the -10 wing size ratio compares with the 757-300? I would think the 757 still has "more wing" relative to its size, but I may be wrong.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:25 am

230 pax in a single aisle a/c sounds like a enplaning and deplaning nightmare. Just as awful as being seated in the last row of a 753. It is a beauty tho.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:43 am

DL747400 wrote:
Revelation wrote:
You are showing no respect for karma. There could be a significant competitive edge flying a plane that does not have the excess range and weight and being purchased when the vendor is motivated to sell cheap to get a marquee customer, pretty much the same reason BA just did a LOI for 200 MAXes.


OK, but let's also look at the flip side: There could be a significant competitive advantage (and possibly even a revenue premium?) to operating roomier aircraft which customers prefer. Wider cabin, wider aisles and greater cabin height all contribute to the perception (both a real and perceived) of a more spacious cabin.

We are talking about a six inch wider cabin, not noticeable to most passengers.

Revelation wrote:
You may very well find yourself in the last row of a DL 787-10 some day rueing this day.


Yes please! I love the 787 and would bounce off the wall with glee if DL were to acquire them. While I prefer Airbus narrowbodies, my preference flips to Boeing for widebodies.


With all the time Boeing is spending on the MAX, it should be the safest plane in the sky. Some might say they would never fly the Max, but when the dust settles, passengers will not give it a second thought. Over the years and the many flights I have taken, never have I heard a passenger ask what type of airliner they were boarding.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:01 am

airlineworker wrote:
With all the time Boeing is spending on the MAX, it should be the safest plane in the sky. Some might say they would never fly the Max, but when the dust settles, passengers will not give it a second thought. Over the years and the many flights I have taken, never have I heard a passenger ask what type of airliner they were boarding.

In 1985 I was on a SAS DC-10 flight from CPH to ANC. We were all sitting in our seats waiting to take off when it was announced there would be a delay to fix a mechanical issue. We deplaned for a couple of hours and reboarded.

While waiting to take off a flight attendant was talking to the passengers seated near an exit. Someone brought up the previous DC-10 crashes. The FA said not to worry, it all had been fixed and the plane was safe. I don't recall being the least bit worried and none of the other passengers who overheard the conversation seemed to be either. We just wanted to get going.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:10 am

EWRamp wrote:
230 pax in a single aisle a/c sounds like a enplaning and deplaning nightmare. Just as awful as being seated in the last row of a 753. It is a beauty tho.


So didn't you try the densest A321neo on the world?
I was on Vietjet's A321NX which was config-ed as Y240 on a ~6hrs route from SGN to ICN and it seems fine for me :D.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 1:13 am

1985 was six years after the last major DC10 crash. The Max may not be so lucky.
The DeathCruiser Mk10 is perhaps not a good analogy
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:07 am

EWRamp wrote:
230 pax in a single aisle a/c sounds like a enplaning and deplaning nightmare. Just as awful as being seated in the last row of a 753. It is a beauty tho.


Been in the back of ‘lac (753) plenty of times. It’s not thaaaaat bad. Patience is a virtue.

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:20 am

There were very likely be come changes for airlines who have ordered the 737-8 Max, and 737-9 Max with MCAS to switched to this newest 737-10.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:10 am

PANAMsterdam wrote:
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See kids, this is what happens if you eat your vegetables and drink your glass of milk every day! :weightlifter:

See kids, this is what happens when you don't study enough to get rich and to have your own biz jet.
You will get stuck in a single aisle modern crampliner with 200+ other poor souls for the rest of your life sharing 3 or 4 toilets.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:38 am

737-100 versus 737-10

(Source: Boeing ACAPs)

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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 4:19 am

Looks good, but I'm kind of surprised that Boeing is sticking with the MAX branding. It didn't seem too far-fetched that they might quietly phase that out with the introduction of a new version, but here we are.
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:22 am

Wow some people are really salty about the 737 and Boeing
 
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Re: Boeing 737 Max 10 Rollout

Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:23 am

Landing gear is the same height. Engines are fitted exactly the same.

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