A whole load of rubbish here but I’ll just reply to mine
Most of which is incorrect
1. Difficult to finance? That’s why BA told Airbus the 380 was way to expensive.
You'll note I didn't argue that the A380 wasn't expensive/difficult to finance. The implication that the 777X had many of the bad similarities of the A380 was quite clear, including difficulties to finance.
How many orders does the 777X have from lessors? Zero, meanwhile the 787 and A350 have substantial order portfolios from lessors. Who is going to do a SLB deal with an airline for a 777X for any kind of reasonable rate when the customer base is so limit - you'll have exactly the same issue as with the A380 whereby lessors are stuck with an aircraft they can't move at the end of the lease. What if a customer terminates a lease prematurely (ie like what AF is doing to their A380 fleet) where will the customer base be? Lessors would much rather finance an aircraft for which there is a wide operator base and thus a liquid secondary market. A liquid market means low risk. Being the biggest on the market, both the A380 and 777X will naturally have less operators and thus be difficult to finance.
Couldn’t order more than 12 and then went on to secure up to 42 aircrafts. Or the fact that everyone has ordered more 777Xs than they have the 380.
Last I checked I think QR ordered 6 times more than they did the 380, I think ANA about 6 times more as well LH orderd about 6 more drames than the 380 with options for 14 more, so clearly that’s rubbish
I never argued that and it's a terrible point you're trying to make. Do you mean to say that larger aircraft have less orders than smaller aircraft? Mind blowing!
Heavy per passenger? What does that even mean? Do you mean fuel burn because you know that it will probably burn less fuel per passenger compared to competition. I admit not a trip bais because it’s obviously heavier. No one expect is to burn less fuel on a trip basis compared to the A35K including Boeing and the customers that bought it.
The 777-9 was designed to be able to fly from DXB on a ridiculously hot day all the way to West Coast US with a full payload - a mission far beyond nearly all long haul flying. It is optimized for ULH operations. It is carrying more structure (weight) than it needs in the form of that enormous wing. For non ULH missions a 787-10 or A350-1000 is much better optimized.
Similar with the A380 which is carrying around far more wing structure than it actually needs for the -800. Hence it is heavier, draggier and burns more fuel.
The -9 does not need a smaller sibling to create synergies,
What are you even trying to say here? The A350 and 787 actually do have families which airlines order multiple variants of creating operational efficiencies. The A380 didn't and thus was an oddball - not good for the beancounters.
787 is extremely popular it will be a lot easier to comportante the 777x into your fleet both operationally and practically.
That's like trying to argue that the A350 and A380 have synergies. But by all means, have at it if you want to.
The 380 we had rebuild airports around it? Come on like what is this argument you’re making it’s so weak.
Maybe try cutting the snark and reading what I actually wrote?
Okay the -8 is over optimised for ULH not the -9 so if you don’t need it then don’t get it
Well that's exactly the issue, isn't it. Emirates have realised that they don't need it for a lot of missions and hence the conversion to the far more optimised for mid haul flying 787-9. Cathay Pacific seems to be thinking the same and wanting to convert their order to 787-10s. Lufthansa seemed to be getting cold feet right from the start and now rumours suggest that they would like to convert some portion of their order to freighters.
It’s a desperate attempt to pull one down simply because the 380 is going down and you want Boeing’s largest aircraft to go down with it when it hasn’t even entered service compared to an aircraft of over 10 years
My wants are irrelevant. The market is speaking and it doesn't look like it's going to be an easy ride for the 777x.