tullamarine wrote:qf789 wrote:SCFlyer wrote:Interestingly the article suggests the same aircraft would be used on the BNE/PER to LHR.
Probably would suggest that the current MEL-PER-LHR would become MEL-LHR and BNE-PER-LHR if/should Project Sunrise become reality.
That’s not what article says, it refers to both PER and BNE operating as non stops
The grammar is unclear and either interpretation could be made.
What is more news is that the business case is so marginal that it is still not ready to go to the BoD. AJ has gone back to Boeing and Airbus after price decreases but even that is hard to see overcoming such an issue. A price reduction of say $10M per plane approximates to a saving of $1667 per flight (assuming 20 years service with 300 flights per year). $1667 is only around 1.5 economy passengers so hardly significant. The issues appear to be whether the hardware actually exists to reliably complete these flights nonstop and whether customers will be prepared to pay a significant premium to save 3 hours. Unfortunately, the whole project has also got embroiled in a dispute with pilots, some of whom now feel they are being asked to take cuts to fund the project. The upside for the pilots with Sunrise is a bit hard to see so they have decided to play hardball.
Sunrise has been a trophy project for AJ but he is an accountant at heart and, if the numbers don't add up, he will walk away.
Indeed it’s an interesting article on many levels - light on sources from within QF, and would allude to some PR spin by the pilots. But AJ has clearly shown he will take the unions on. His recent pay in the media won’t help his case this time around. I do appreciate the sense of injustice amongst QF frontline staff constantly under pressure to do more with less, and then at EBA time restricted growth or more productivity requests when AJ keeps his income growing without that pressure.
Separately I wonder the impact to any additional 789 being ordered. I’m sure 789 and 350-9 are in discussion with both carriers. But if PS is delayed, or even canned- QF needs more 789 to make HND/JNB/YVR work, not to mention over the long term make MEL/BNE-SFO, and ORD daily. And order for 350-9 could help shuffle up and free some 789s up, as will JFK. But with no PS aircraft orders, a 789 order becomes more urgent.