YYZORD wrote:

qf789 wrote:

YYZORD wrote:

I'm just curious as to why QF can't make YVR work year round? They should at least serve one canadian destination daily year round. Look at AC with Canada-Australia routes, QF should at least add SYD-YVR daily year round for extra competition.

Because firstly they don't have the available aircraft, what aircraft they do have there are more important markets to serve. Also having noticed what passengers VA send through on AC there aren't many that just go to YVR, they connect onto other services within Canada

The 787-9 is the perfect aircraft for this route let alone they have codeshare with WS.

Flyingsottsman wrote:

Reading all these posts about QF having their fleet stretched and seeing posters say if they take this plane of this route and put it on this route and etc ect, sounds to me like QF just don't have enough aircraft in their international fleet to make it run smoothly. Why do they take so long to order aircraft that other airlines have operated for a few years now, and seems to work well for them. eg: SQ 777s, 787s, A380s, A330s' A350s, didn't take SQ long to order and get them into their fleets, what's' wrong with QF, this project sunrise BS will never happen look at the 777 when it first came out they never took them up. What is Alan Joyce and Qantas waiting for what sort of aircraft are they looking for I just don't get it .

Flyingsottsman wrote:

Reading all these posts about QF having their fleet stretched and seeing posters say if they take this plane of this route and put it on this route and etc ect, sounds to me like QF just don't have enough aircraft in their international fleet to make it run smoothly. Why do they take so long to order aircraft that other airlines have operated for a few years now, and seems to work well for them. eg: SQ 777s, 787s, A380s, A330s' A350s, didn't take SQ long to order and get them into their fleets, what's' wrong with QF, this project sunrise BS will never happen look at the 777 when it first came out they never took them up. What is Alan Joyce and Qantas waiting for what sort of aircraft are they looking for I just don't get it .

qf789 wrote:

A couple of PER related things

NZ has switched from 789 to 772 as of yesterday

Qatar went tech last night, new parts were being flown in from DOH today, so hopefully will either depart later tonight or tomorrow

eamondzhang wrote:

Flyingsottsman wrote:

Reading all these posts about QF having their fleet stretched and seeing posters say if they take this plane of this route and put it on this route and etc ect, sounds to me like QF just don't have enough aircraft in their international fleet to make it run smoothly. Why do they take so long to order aircraft that other airlines have operated for a few years now, and seems to work well for them. eg: SQ 777s, 787s, A380s, A330s' A350s, didn't take SQ long to order and get them into their fleets, what's' wrong with QF, this project sunrise BS will never happen look at the 777 when it first came out they never took them up. What is Alan Joyce and Qantas waiting for what sort of aircraft are they looking for I just don't get it .

It's called conservative capital investment and smart fleet management, maximise the utilisation of your assets during high season and plan downtime during low season where less money is made. All airlines globally do the same, and why exactly QF has to be different? I know an airline with 45+ 787s only plans 1 spare at any given time and another airlines that has tons of A330s also do the same. Airlines globally also tends to fly aircrafts to 15-25 years' lifespan, and why exactly QF has to order the state-of-art aircraft? Remember it took SQ ten years to get their first A350 and twelve from initial 787 order to take first 787 - "didn't take SQ long to order and get them into their fleets", wth? Did you actually bother checking the facts first?

Michael

Captdasbomb wrote:

qf789 wrote:

A couple of PER related things

NZ has switched from 789 to 772 as of yesterday

Qatar went tech last night, new parts were being flown in from DOH today, so hopefully will either depart later tonight or tomorrow

Does Qatar have engineers based in Perth or they have an agreement with Network/Cobham?

qf789 wrote:

Captdasbomb wrote:

qf789 wrote:

A couple of PER related things

NZ has switched from 789 to 772 as of yesterday

Qatar went tech last night, new parts were being flown in from DOH today, so hopefully will either depart later tonight or tomorrow

Does Qatar have engineers based in Perth or they have an agreement with Network/Cobham?

Normally they contract maintenance out however on this occasion they flew several engineers in

RyanairGuru wrote:

As I see it there are two possible outcomes in 12 months from now, with either HND or JNB getting an A380 and the other a 787 and everything else status quo. Changing DFW to a 787 is a pretty massive hit to capacity, even with a 3 weekly MEL-DFW. I have mapped both the 787s and A380s as it was the only way I could keep track to make sure I was capturing everything.


Option One (assumes that HND does not permit A380 operations)

787s = 14

MEL-PER-LHR + MEL-SFO + MEL-LAX = 4
BNE-LAX-JFK = 2
BNE-SFO + BNE-ORD = 2
SYD-SFO + SYD-SCL = 3
SYD-HND = 2 (maybe with a SYD-AKL in between, A330 SYD-NRT to compensate for lost capacity)

TOTAL: 13/14

A380s = 12

SYD-SIN-LHR + SYD-JNB = 4 (*)
SYD-LAX = 2
MEL-LAX = 2
SYD-DFW = 2

TOTAL: 10/12 (**)

Option 2 (HND permits A380 operations, JNB is down-gauged)

787s = 14

MEL-PER-LHR + MEL-SFO + MEL-LAX = 4
BNE-LAX-JFK = 2
BNE-SFO + BNE-ORD = 2
SYD-SFO + SYD-SCL = 3
SYD-JNB = 2 (it's 1.5 but there's not much you can do with the fractional 0.5 other than an AKL night-stop)

TOTAL: 13/14

A380s = 12

SYD-SIN-LHR = 3
SYD-LAX = 2
MEL-LAX = 2
SYD-DFW = 2
SYD-HND = 1.5

TOTAL: 10.5/12

Option 3 (NB: This results in ~1200 fewer weekly seats to the USA - noting that QF are going to increase DFW to daily year-round so presumably it is doing well enough)

787s = 14

MEL-PER-LHR + MEL-SFO (4x) + MEL-DFW (3x) = 4
BNE-LAX-JFK = 2
BNE-SFO + BNE-ORD = 2
SYD-SFO + SYD-SCL = 3
SYD-DFW = 2

TOTAL: 13/14

A380s = 12

SYD-SIN-LHR = 3
SYD-LAX = 2
MEL-LAX = 2
SYD-HND + SYD-JNB = 3

TOTAL: 10/12





(*) With a small adjustment to the schedule QF63/64 can be operated with one frame between QF2 -> QF1. Hypothetical schedule based on schedule for QF1:

NS

SYD-JNB 10:00-16:00
JNB-SYD 18:00-13:45
SYD-SIN 15:55-22:15

NW

SYD-JNB 11:00-16:00
JNB-SYD 18:00-14:45
SYD-SIN 17:00-22:05

(**) Allows for maintenance/refurb plus QF127/128 and/or QF35/36 to be seasonally up-gauged

EK413 wrote:

qf789 wrote:

Captdasbomb wrote:

Does Qatar have engineers based in Perth or they have an agreement with Network/Cobham?

Normally they contract maintenance out however on this occasion they flew several engineers in

I could be off the mark but I believe QF engineering looked after QR in SYD & MEL (believe it or not). Recall several months ago when their A380 went tech in Sydney the aircraft spent a few days in QF hangar 416.


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EK413 wrote:

qf789 wrote:

Captdasbomb wrote:

Does Qatar have engineers based in Perth or they have an agreement with Network/Cobham?

Normally they contract maintenance out however on this occasion they flew several engineers in

I could be off the mark but I believe QF engineering looked after QR in SYD & MEL (believe it or not). Recall several months ago when their A380 went tech in Sydney the aircraft spent a few days in QF hangar 416.


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RyanairGuru wrote:

EK413 wrote:

qf789 wrote:

Normally they contract maintenance out however on this occasion they flew several engineers in

I could be off the mark but I believe QF engineering looked after QR in SYD & MEL (believe it or not). Recall several months ago when their A380 went tech in Sydney the aircraft spent a few days in QF hangar 416.


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Why the "believe it or not"? Qantas do ground handling for Qatar, just as they do for quite a lot of foreign carriers, so it would make sense if they are contracted for maintenance as well.

qf789 wrote:

A couple of PER related things

NZ has switched from 789 to 772 as of yesterday

RyanairGuru wrote:

EK413 wrote:

qf789 wrote:

Normally they contract maintenance out however on this occasion they flew several engineers in

I could be off the mark but I believe QF engineering looked after QR in SYD & MEL (believe it or not). Recall several months ago when their A380 went tech in Sydney the aircraft spent a few days in QF hangar 416.


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Why the "believe it or not"? Qantas do ground handling for Qatar, just as they do for quite a lot of foreign carriers, so it would make sense if they are contracted for maintenance as well.

EK413 wrote:

RyanairGuru wrote:

EK413 wrote:

I could be off the mark but I believe QF engineering looked after QR in SYD & MEL (believe it or not). Recall several months ago when their A380 went tech in Sydney the aircraft spent a few days in QF hangar 416.


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Why the "believe it or not"? Qantas do ground handling for Qatar, just as they do for quite a lot of foreign carriers, so it would make sense if they are contracted for maintenance as well.

QF & QR aren’t on friendly terms hence the “believe it or not” quote and I know business is business.




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smi0006 wrote:

RyanairGuru wrote:

EK413 wrote:

I could be off the mark but I believe QF engineering looked after QR in SYD & MEL (believe it or not). Recall several months ago when their A380 went tech in Sydney the aircraft spent a few days in QF hangar 416.


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Why the "believe it or not"? Qantas do ground handling for Qatar, just as they do for quite a lot of foreign carriers, so it would make sense if they are contracted for maintenance as well.

I don’t believe QF does the ground handling for QR I believe it’s dnata everywhere except CBR which maybe Swissport? EK used to do QRs engineering in MEL, not sure if they still do or if EK do it in PER. AMSA (rebranded but can’t recall their new name) is a contracting company that also provides outstation engineering, perhaps they do?

RyanairGuru wrote:

smi0006 wrote:

RyanairGuru wrote:

Why the "believe it or not"? Qantas do ground handling for Qatar, just as they do for quite a lot of foreign carriers, so it would make sense if they are contracted for maintenance as well.

I don’t believe QF does the ground handling for QR I believe it’s dnata everywhere except CBR which maybe Swissport? EK used to do QRs engineering in MEL, not sure if they still do or if EK do it in PER. AMSA (rebranded but can’t recall their new name) is a contracting company that also provides outstation engineering, perhaps they do?

It is Qantas in CBR.

zkncj wrote:

qf789 wrote:

A couple of PER related things

NZ has switched from 789 to 772 as of yesterday

Likely to be Rolls Royce related, there is an nice 789 collection starting to form again at the AKL Hangars.

HKG is currently be operated by wet leased a350s from CX, so would of free’d up some 77E slots.

NZ516 wrote:

zkncj wrote:

qf789 wrote:

A couple of PER related things

NZ has switched from 789 to 772 as of yesterday

Likely to be Rolls Royce related, there is an nice 789 collection starting to form again at the AKL Hangars.

HKG is currently be operated by wet leased a350s from CX, so would of free’d up some 77E slots.

Only seen ZKNZE at the hangar on its own recently with ZKNZH back flying again 29 DEC after being grounded for a week.

EK413 wrote:

RyanairGuru wrote:

smi0006 wrote:

I don’t believe QF does the ground handling for QR I believe it’s dnata everywhere except CBR which maybe Swissport? EK used to do QRs engineering in MEL, not sure if they still do or if EK do it in PER. AMSA (rebranded but can’t recall their new name) is a contracting company that also provides outstation engineering, perhaps they do?

It is Qantas in CBR.

I believe QF did handle QR in both SYD & MEL at one point but switched over to Dnata.

qf789 wrote:

A couple of PER related things

NZ has switched from 789 to 772 as of yesterday

Qatar went tech last night, new parts were being flown in from DOH today, so hopefully will either depart later tonight or tomorrow

VapourTrails wrote:

VA277 MEL to CBR returned to MEL shortly after take-off this afternoon.