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MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:47 am

In 1970 BOAC started Miami to London Non stop service (to replace the two stop MIA-NAS-BDA-LHR) with a Boeing 707(sometimes a Vickers VC-10).
Then the route came open for bids for a US Air Carrier to bid for nonstop MIA-LHR authority.I heard Pan Am placed a bid.I discovered Braniff was interested in the route and would be flying Boeing 707-327Cs or Douglas DC-8-62s.National bid on the route and the CAB granted the route to them.I am wondering did any other US air carriers place a bid on the route like Eastern or TWA.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:54 am

flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:04 am

National was a pioneering airline which built MIA into a European powerhouse. Lufthansa got to MIA in the late 1970's and Air France in 1992-3.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:27 am

From The Beatles 'Back in the USSR' 1968 I believe.-

"Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight"
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 8:42 am

tso310 wrote:
From The Beatles 'Back in the USSR' 1968 I believe.-

"Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way, the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight"
'
"Back in the US,
Back in the US,
Back in the USSR......"
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:11 am

jfk777 wrote:
National was a pioneering airline which built MIA into a European powerhouse. Lufthansa got to MIA in the late 1970's and Air France in 1992-3.


Air France has flown to Miami from the French Caribbean for over 60 years (and still does), but Paris service launched in 1986.
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 2:41 pm

RJNUT wrote:
flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight


Macca wrote those lyrics in 1968 when I believe the BOAC flight stopped in Bermuda or Nassau. As the thread discusses nonstop MIA-LHR began in 1970.

Had Braniff been awarded the route by the CAB in 1970 it would have fed their South American operations well. Interestingly I think United had this same idea in 1991/1992 but could not secure MIA- LHR except temporarily (they flew it for a month I believe before it reverted to PA as MIA-LGW).
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:24 pm

WOW...just checked some timetables...thought that PA flew MIA-LHR before the NA buyout...guess not!
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 3:41 pm

The first non-stop Miami-London (Heathrow) was awarded to National Airlines. It was started with DC8-54 equipment on a daily schedule. About two years later the aircraft was changed to Boeing 747s when they were delivered new.

National began to really grow to Europe... Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Zurich, Paris etc. National also added Tampa, Houston and New York as new Europe gateways. The 747 routes, including London were ultimately operated with all DC-10-30 aircraft. The 747s were sold to Northwest Airlines.

National used such European slogans as the famous "FLY ME" campaign were stewardesses were on T-V and billboards that said such as "I'm Linda, Fly Me to London". All of the fleet were named for stewardesses. Susan, Betty, Sandra etc were on each and every aircraft. A 747 named "Elizabeth" was renamed "Patricia" so as not to offend Queen Elizabeth. (747s were also referred to as "Fat Albert" by most in the industry).

Pan Am merged with National (founded in Jacksonville Florida in 1934) and the Orange aircraft with the big Sun on tail turned blue.

Miami misses them...
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:11 pm

doulasc wrote:
In 1970 BOAC started Miami to London Non stop service (to replace the two stop MIA-NAS-BDA-LHR) with a Boeing 707(sometimes a Vickers VC-10).
Then the route came open for bids for a US Air Carrier to bid for nonstop MIA-LHR authority.I heard Pan Am placed a bid.I discovered Braniff was interested in the route and would be flying Boeing 707-327Cs or Douglas DC-8-62s.National bid on the route and the CAB granted the route to them.I am wondering did any other US air carriers place a bid on the route like Eastern or TWA.


Applications were received from Braniff, Delta, Eastern, National, Pan Am, Trans International, and TWA for combination service, while Airlift and Seaboard applied for all-cargo authority. The CAB examiner recommended that the service would be combined passenger/cargo, and that Pan Am be granted the authority. The examiner concluded that Pan Am was best postured for the route since it could provide service beyond London, which would make it the strongest competitor to BOAC. The full CAB disagreed; it granted the authority to National since it eyed Miami as a transatlantic gateway and National could provide more single-airline connections through Miami.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:30 pm

Wasn't National awarded the route before BOAC started it? For some reason National didn't start it until June? July? 1970, but didn't it get the authority months earlier?
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:51 pm

The UK carrier on the route was originally British Eagle which was also known as Cunard Eagle during a partnership with the shipping line. They had two sets of factory fresh 707s — RR Conway powered 707-465s and later P&W JT3D 707-365C fanjets. Also a bunch of short body 707-138Bs ex Qantas. They couldn’t compete with state-owned behemoth BOAC and were absorbed (the partnership with Cunard continued for a few more years as BOAC Cunard). An engine exploded and started an out of control fire on one of the -465s in later BOAC service, made it back onto the ground (flight time three and a half minutes) but burned out completely. Five lives lost. Heathrow’s most dramatic moment.
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:30 pm

Interesting post. I was at UM in 1970 and went out to MIA to see the first 747s take off to LHR from the roof of the parking garage. If I remember correcty both BA and NA started the same day. BA took off first (used about 9000ft of 9L) and later NA which used just about all of the runway, must have been scary on Le June road.

Those 747-100s were not quick off the ground with a heavy load!!
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:34 pm

cedarjet wrote:
The UK carrier on the route was originally British Eagle ...

"The route" between Miami and London via Bermuda, or some such. It seems BOAC and National were both approved to fly MIA-LHR nonstop in Summer 1969, and both were to start it in January 1970; maybe BOAC did, but National was late, due to a strike or something.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:08 am

timz wrote:
but National was late, due to a strike or something.


PROBABLY ! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:04 am

MAH4546 wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
National was a pioneering airline which built MIA into a European powerhouse. Lufthansa got to MIA in the late 1970's and Air France in 1992-3.


Air France has flown to Miami from the French Caribbean for over 60 years (and still does), but Paris service launched in 1986.


You are right that AF has flown to Miami from the Caribbean for decades but to most of the world AF is Paris, that has only been in recent times.

When some asks about when AF starts flying to X city it is " when did they start flying from Paris?"
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:24 am

jfk777 wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
National was a pioneering airline which built MIA into a European powerhouse. Lufthansa got to MIA in the late 1970's and Air France in 1992-3.


Air France has flown to Miami from the French Caribbean for over 60 years (and still does), but Paris service launched in 1986.


You are right that AF has flown to Miami from the Caribbean for decades but to most of the world AF is Paris, that has only been in recent times.

When some asks about when AF starts flying to X city it is " when did they start flying from Paris?"


Yes, totally understand, but you said 1990s when Air France in fact began Miami-Paris in winter 1986, at the same time it launched San Francisco.
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:15 am

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The first non-stop Miami-London (Heathrow) was awarded to National Airlines. It was started with DC8-54 equipment on a daily schedule. About two years later the aircraft was changed to Boeing 747s when they were delivered new.

National began to really grow to Europe... Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Zurich, Paris etc. National also added Tampa, Houston and New York as new Europe gateways. The 747 routes, including London were ultimately operated with all DC-10-30 aircraft. The 747s were sold to Northwest Airlines.

National used such European slogans as the famous "FLY ME" campaign were stewardesses were on T-V and billboards that said such as "I'm Linda, Fly Me to London". All of the fleet were named for stewardesses. Susan, Betty, Sandra etc were on each and every aircraft. A 747 named "Elizabeth" was renamed "Patricia" so as not to offend Queen Elizabeth. (747s were also referred to as "Fat Albert" by most in the industry).

Pan Am merged with National (founded in Jacksonville Florida in 1934) and the Orange aircraft with the big Sun on tail turned blue.

Miami misses them...


No. N77772 was named “Patricia” initially, and then renamed “Jacqueline.”
N77773 was named “Elizabeth,” initially, and then renamed “Linda.”

I flew on both.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:37 am

Correction....

National Airlines....

N77772 was a Boeing 747-131 originally named Elizabeth, renamed Patricia.

N60NA was National's first DC-10-10 named Barbara, renamed Jacqueline.

Jacqueline was never a 747.

I rode on these aircraft dozens on times.

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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:44 am

MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight


Macca wrote those lyrics in 1968 when I believe the BOAC flight stopped in Bermuda or Nassau. As the thread discusses nonstop MIA-LHR began in 1970.

Had Braniff been awarded the route by the CAB in 1970 it would have fed their South American operations well. Interestingly I think United had this same idea in 1991/1992 but could not secure MIA- LHR except temporarily (they flew it for a month I believe before it reverted to PA as MIA-LGW).


I also think Braniff should have gotten a route from MIA to MAD to feed their South American network.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:46 am

Floridian wrote:
The first non-stop Miami-London (Heathrow) was awarded to National Airlines. It was started with DC8-54 equipment on a daily schedule. About two years later the aircraft was changed to Boeing 747s when they were delivered new.

National began to really grow to Europe... Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Zurich, Paris etc. National also added Tampa, Houston and New York as new Europe gateways. The 747 routes, including London were ultimately operated with all DC-10-30 aircraft. The 747s were sold to Northwest Airlines.

National used such European slogans as the famous "FLY ME" campaign were stewardesses were on T-V and billboards that said such as "I'm Linda, Fly Me to London". All of the fleet were named for stewardesses. Susan, Betty, Sandra etc were on each and every aircraft. A 747 named "Elizabeth" was renamed "Patricia" so as not to offend Queen Elizabeth. (747s were also referred to as "Fat Albert" by most in the industry).

Pan Am merged with National (founded in Jacksonville Florida in 1934) and the Orange aircraft with the big Sun on tail turned blue.

Miami misses them...


National Airlines actually used DC8-62 on this route when it started..
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:52 am

National Airlines Equipment.

The initial aircraft used on Miami-London Heathrow was two DC-8-54s reg numbers N108RD and N109RD.

National never operated any owned or leased DC-8-62s. The only 60 series ships were DC-8-61s which lacked range to fly 4428 miles. That's why the long range 54s on the route.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:30 am

Did any airlines at MIA have Business Class in the 1970’s?
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:57 am

Floridian wrote:
Correction....

National Airlines....

N77772 was a Boeing 747-131 originally named Elizabeth, renamed Patricia.

N60NA was National's first DC-10-10 named Barbara, renamed Jacqueline.

Jacqueline was never a 747.

I rode on these aircraft dozens on times.

You're welcome.


You are actually incorrect on several counts.

National’s 747s were 747-135s, not 131s. -35 was Boeing’s customer code for National. -31 was Bpeing’s customer code for TWA.

DC-10-10 N60NA was initially “Barbara,” later renamed “Suzanne.”

N77772 was originally”Patricia” when I flew her on NAL 98 MIA-JFK in AUG 1972, and had been renamed “Jacqueline” by the time I flew her again on NAL 43 MIA-LAX in AUG 1975.

Also, the renaming of “Elizabeth” to “Linda” had nothing to do with Queen Elizabeth, as you claim. A number of NAL’s aircraft were renamed during the “Fly Me” campaign. For example, 727-235 N4737 was initially “Susan,” later “Erica,” and DC-10-10 N62NA was initially “Frances,” later “Cecille.”

Nice try, though.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:34 am

Floridian wrote:
National Airlines Equipment.

The initial aircraft used on Miami-London Heathrow was two DC-8-54s reg numbers N108RD and N109RD.

National never operated any owned or leased DC-8-62s. The only 60 series ships were DC-8-61s which lacked range to fly 4428 miles. That's why the long range 54s on the route.


The DC-8s leased to operate MIA-LHR initially were actually DC-8F-54s operated in a passenger configuration. These aircraft were built as freighters with a main deck cargo door but could also be configured as passenger aircraft.

All Series 54s were freighter capable. There was no such thing as a non-freighter-capable -54.

The DC-8F-54s variants built originally went to airlines such as Airlift International (from whom National leased N108RD and N109RD); United; Alitalia; Trans Caribbean; VIASA.

N108RD and N109RD remained on lease to National until 1973 and 1974, respectively, and were not assigned names under the “Fly Me” campaign.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:45 am

MIAFLLPBIFlyer wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight


Macca wrote those lyrics in 1968 when I believe the BOAC flight stopped in Bermuda or Nassau. As the thread discusses nonstop MIA-LHR began in 1970.

Had Braniff been awarded the route by the CAB in 1970 it would have fed their South American operations well. Interestingly I think United had this same idea in 1991/1992 but could not secure MIA- LHR except temporarily (they flew it for a month I believe before it reverted to PA as MIA-LGW).


Eastern Airlines also had the same idea, and flew Miami-London in the mid 1980s.

When UA purchased PA's routes to London, MIA / DTW - LHR were not a part of the transaction. These routes were due to be kept by PA, and moved to LGW.

PA and UA subsequently requested that MIA-LHR be included in the deal. However, the US government said the only way the route could be included was if UA flew it from LGW, not LHR, and UA decided not to set up a station at LGW for this one route. MIA-LGW and DTW-LGW were subsequently included in DL's purchase of trans atlantic routes from PA.

The reason the US government insisted that UA serve LGW instead of LHR was because the Bermuda II agreement limited the US to only one airline from the US flying from MIA to LHR, and only two airlines flying from anywhere in the US to LHR. UA was due to replace PA as one of the two airlines serving LHR, and AA (replacing TW) was the other. AA had previously purchased Continental's MIA-LGW route, which was originally awarded to Air Florida, then re awarded to Eastern after Air Florida shut down, as part of AA's purchase of Eastern's Latin American routes. When, initially, it looked like PA would be keeping the MIA-London route, the US government let AA move their MIA-London route to LHR to ensure the US had at least one airline flying from Miami to London.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:05 pm

Eastern, in the early 1980's, had purchased two former Qantas 747 for a Miami to London flights that never happened. EA did fly it with Dc-10-30 in 1986. Famous photo of one of the planes painted in EA livery at Sydney's Kingfordsmith Airport, neither was ever delivered.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:33 pm

RJNUT wrote:
flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn't get to bed last night
On the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight


Fun fact; the 'jet' noise at the start of this track, was actually a recording, amplified up, of a Vickers Viscount on finals to LHR.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:53 pm

jfk777 wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
National was a pioneering airline which built MIA into a European powerhouse. Lufthansa got to MIA in the late 1970's and Air France in 1992-3.


Air France has flown to Miami from the French Caribbean for over 60 years (and still does), but Paris service launched in 1986.


You are right that AF has flown to Miami from the Caribbean for decades but to most of the world AF is Paris, that has only been in recent times.

When some asks about when AF starts flying to X city it is " when did they start flying from Paris?"


It was always an interesting sight to see Air France’s Caravelle parked at the tip of the International Concourse (on the site of the current Concourse E). Air France used a ground-level gate at the very end, at which the Caravelle would park after/before its circuitous route through the Caribbean.

The Caravelles in Air France’s Caribbean network were replaced by a leased pair of Western 737-247s in the 1973-1974 range. These 737s were the only aircraft in Air France’s fleet to carry the modified Air France livery applied to the initial Air France A300s that operated between NY and the Caribbean.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:00 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Eastern, in the early 1980's, had purchased two former Qantas 747 for a Miami to London flights that never happened. EA did fly it with Dc-10-30 in 1986. Famous photo of one of the planes painted in EA livery at Sydney's Kingfordsmith Airport, neither was ever delivered.


IIRC Eastern was originally approved for MIA-LGW but tried to hold out for MIA-LHR. The authorities responded by giving the route to Air Florida instead, and Eastern settled for LGW after Air Florida went under.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:02 pm

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Did any airlines at MIA have Business Class in the 1970’s?


Probably not, and if so, it would have had to have been the VERY LATE 70's and would have been PA; QF introduced "business class" to the world with the IATA winter schedule at the end of Oct., 1978. I don't recall when PA initially launched "Clipper Class".
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:08 pm

OB1504 wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
Eastern, in the early 1980's, had purchased two former Qantas 747 for a Miami to London flights that never happened. EA did fly it with Dc-10-30 in 1986. Famous photo of one of the planes painted in EA livery at Sydney's Kingfordsmith Airport, neither was ever delivered.


IIRC Eastern was originally approved for MIA-LGW but tried to hold out for MIA-LHR. The authorities responded by giving the route to Air Florida instead, and Eastern settled for LGW after Air Florida went under.


Every "gatwicked" airline thought they were special and could convince the British to let them into Heathrow, never happened to any US airline in the Bermuda II era. Braniff tried the same trick with no luck either. Only US Heathrow airlines then were TWA & PAN AM. Then AA & UA took over and Delta was still "Gatwicked", Delta has practically had to acquire Virgin Atlantic to be a Heathrow player.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:29 pm

Which Concourses were controlled by Pan Am?
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:41 pm

I believe E (international) and F were the Pan Am concourses. United had a nice Red Carpet Club on F that was the former Pan Am club if I'm not mistaken.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:43 pm

blacksoviet wrote:
Which Concourses were controlled by Pan Am?


Concourse E was the International Concourse where PA had many of their operations. When they merged with National they controlled concourse F but still had many E flights.
 
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Re: MIA-LHR non stop in 1970

Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:10 am

OB1504 wrote:
jfk777 wrote:
Eastern, in the early 1980's, had purchased two former Qantas 747 for a Miami to London flights that never happened. EA did fly it with Dc-10-30 in 1986. Famous photo of one of the planes painted in EA livery at Sydney's Kingfordsmith Airport, neither was ever delivered.


IIRC Eastern was originally approved for MIA-LGW but tried to hold out for MIA-LHR. The authorities responded by giving the route to Air Florida instead, and Eastern settled for LGW after Air Florida went under.



CAB approved Air Florida for MIA-LGW on 12/1/80 (the other two applicants were Eastern and World, but Eastern withdrew its bid prior to the hearing) . In July 1984 Air Florida agreed to sell its London route to Eastern. Instead, the CAB elected to open the route to interested parties, so Eastern and Air Florida terminated their agreement. Applications were received from Air Florida (on behalf of Midway), Eastern, Northeastern International, TWA, and World Airways. The DOT Administrative Law Judge recommended World, but the DOT Assistant Secretary reversed the decision and went with Eastern. This came down in April 1985.

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