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Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:41 pm

An inflatable evacuation slide fell from a DL flight late yesterday morning on approach to BOS. The flight was reported to be coming from CDG and looks to be DL405, operated by N1607B, a 76W. The pilot reported hearing a loud noise and a local resident said the slide crashed through a tree landing in their yard. Pictures of the slide are included in the article. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the flight landed safely.

Looks like the aircraft will be shuttled to ATL later today for maintenance as DL9945.

I have to say, I'm really curious as to how this happened. I know that on most a/c, the slide is stored on the interior of the door, but with the 767's door that slide upwards, they most be stored below the floor? Anyone have any thoughts on how it escaped?

https://www.boston25news.com/news/evacu ... 1014535831

(Apologies if this has already been posted)
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:01 pm

Most likely widow exit slide.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:03 pm

I think this has happened before to another US3 767, can’t recall which airline. Could have been DL last time as well.

As I recall the overwing exit slide is carried in a compartment just slightly aft of the wing, I’d imagine this one has fallen from its compartment somehow.
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:03 pm

Damn. if they were landing on the the 22's instead of the 4's it could have came right over me, but Jeez... I'm not sure if i would be more scared / surprised or even mad that it could have hit my truck,,, Or if i would start freaking out and getting all excited that an Aircraft part had "safely" fallen in my yard just a few feet away and i get to be near it, and inspect it (Just before calling the police of course ;)... )
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 1:43 pm

mikegigs wrote:
An inflatable evacuation slide fell from a DL flight late yesterday morning on approach to BOS. The flight was reported to be coming from CDG and looks to be DL405, operated by N1607B, a 76W. The pilot reported hearing a loud noise and a local resident said the slide crashed through a tree landing in their yard. Pictures of the slide are included in the article. Thankfully nobody was hurt and the flight landed safely.

Looks like the aircraft will be shuttled to ATL later today for maintenance as DL9945.

I have to say, I'm really curious as to how this happened. I know that on most a/c, the slide is stored on the interior of the door, but with the 767's door that slide upwards, they most be stored below the floor? Anyone have any thoughts on how it escaped?

https://www.boston25news.com/news/evacu ... 1014535831

(Apologies if this has already been posted)



I was just about to post this as a discussion.
Interesting this occurred during final approach.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:05 pm

It had to have been one of the overwing slides which, yes, are stored in a compartment in the wing itself IIRC. The main cabin door slides are house in the doors themselves, so it couldn't have been one of those! The door would have to open for the slide to fall out!

Ah yes...updating my post...right in the article linked it says: Delta is investigating an inflatable over-wing slide
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:13 pm

TFA says:

No one was hurt and the FAA announced in a statement to Boston 25 News that they are investigating.

The pilot of Delta Air Lines Flight 405, a Boeing 767, reported a loud noise as the aircraft was on approach to Boston Logan International Airport shortly before noon today. Workers inspected the aircraft after landing and discovered that the right rear evacuation slide was missing.

The Milton Police Department in Massachusetts notified the FAA that they found the slide in the backyard of a residence. No injuries or ground damage were reported to the FAA, which is investigating.

The flight arrived from Charles De Gaulle Airport in Paris.


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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:20 pm

This happened to an Air Zimbabwe 762 Z-WPE on approach to LGW in 2008

http://avherald.com/h?article=4166b90a&opt=0
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:20 pm

Per the article, DL and the FAA have contradicting reports.

Indeed, the FAA says:
The pilot of Delta Air Lines Flight 405, a Boeing 767, reported a loud noise as the aircraft was on approach to Boston Logan International Airport shortly before noon today. Workers inspected the aircraft after landing and discovered that the right rear evacuation slide was missing.
The Milton Police Department in Massachusetts notified the FAA that they found the slide in the backyard of a residence. No injuries or ground damage were reported to the FAA, which is investigating.

The flight arrived from Charles De Gaulle Airport in Paris.


While DL reports:
Delta is investigating an inflatable over-wing slide that was retrieved following an aircraft's landing into Boston's Logan Airport. The flight landed without incident and taxied to the gate under its own power.


I also heard in a separate report on the radio this morning that it was an over-wing slide. This would make more sense, in my opinion, as then the doors wouldn't be open for the rear slide to escape - an event I'm sure many people would notice!
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:43 pm

Makes sense it's the wing slide. If it was a door, pilots would have gotten a door indication in addition to hearing a bang.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 2:46 pm

zuckie13 wrote:
Makes sense it's the wing slide. If it was a door, pilots would have gotten a door indication in addition to hearing a bang.


I would hope that the pilots would get a cockpit indicator of some sort. Deltas 757/767 fleet is getting a bit tired.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 3:07 pm

This video shows the overwing slide stowage compartment and deployment on the 767

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsnAlNpkNuw
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:00 pm

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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:06 pm

How much does an overwing slide weigh?
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:09 pm

kiowa wrote:
zuckie13 wrote:
Makes sense it's the wing slide. If it was a door, pilots would have gotten a door indication in addition to hearing a bang.


I would hope that the pilots would get a cockpit indicator of some sort. Deltas 757/767 fleet is getting a bit tired.


I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not get a peep in the media but this is blowing up.

If this happened on a 29 year old A320 or 20 year old 772 would you have said this?
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:22 pm

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How much does an overwing slide weigh?

I think a 767 overwing is about 150 lbs, may be more. It is a two man lift to get it up into the compartment. It's not on the wing like one poster has stated. It stores in an unpressurized compartment of the fuselage. The upper part of the main gear well, just above the inboard flap track. Boeing has had a few overwings depart over the years on both the 767 and the 757. I've only changed the 767 slide once but I've done a bunch of the the smaller 757 overwings over the years. The 757 has a reoccuring AD to inspect the locking latches, that's how common of a problem it has been. I think there is also an AD on the 767. Even with the AD inspections they still fail.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:41 pm

1989worstyear wrote:
kiowa wrote:
zuckie13 wrote:
Makes sense it's the wing slide. If it was a door, pilots would have gotten a door indication in addition to hearing a bang.


I would hope that the pilots would get a cockpit indicator of some sort. Deltas 757/767 fleet is getting a bit tired.


I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not get a peep in the media but this is blowing up.

If this happened on a 29 year old A320 or 20 year old 772 would you have said this?


Your comment has nothing to do with the topic. Why involve Airbus in this?
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:51 pm

itisi wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:
kiowa wrote:

I would hope that the pilots would get a cockpit indicator of some sort. Deltas 757/767 fleet is getting a bit tired.


I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not get a peep in the media but this is blowing up.

If this happened on a 29 year old A320 or 20 year old 772 would you have said this?


Your comment has nothing to do with the topic. Why involve Airbus in this?


Because using 2019 sh!t logic:

2000-built 767: old, aging, tired.
2000-built 772 near its cycle limits: brand new and state-of-the art.
1990-built A320-200 near its cycle limits: brand new and state of the art.

Why is it always the 767 that gets the media attention for things that also happen on other models that could be the same age? I'm sick and tired of it.

Both incidents are serious enough to warrant attention, but I wish posters could stop with these unnecessary and complete ignorant comments like the one I was responding to.
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:22 pm

itisi wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:
kiowa wrote:

I would hope that the pilots would get a cockpit indicator of some sort. Deltas 757/767 fleet is getting a bit tired.


I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not get a peep in the media but this is blowing up.

If this happened on a 29 year old A320 or 20 year old 772 would you have said this?


Your comment has nothing to do with the topic. Why involve Airbus in this?


Some people need to make everything about Boeing vs Airbus. We all have opinions but some need to attack others with a different opinion. I have my preferences but try not to push my opinions on others.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:40 pm

kiowa wrote:
itisi wrote:
1989worstyear wrote:

I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not get a peep in the media but this is blowing up.

If this happened on a 29 year old A320 or 20 year old 772 would you have said this?


Your comment has nothing to do with the topic. Why involve Airbus in this?


Some people need to make everything about Boeing vs Airbus. We all have opinions but some need to attack others with a different opinion. I have my preferences but try not to push my opinions on others.


This has nothing to do with A vs. B.

It's a perception against this particular type (767) that I can't stand. Had this been one of DL's 2000-era 77E's or 738's nobody would have called the aircraft "tired", and this story would not have made the rounds in the media.
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:06 am

1989worstyear wrote:
kiowa wrote:
itisi wrote:

Your comment has nothing to do with the topic. Why involve Airbus in this?


Some people need to make everything about Boeing vs Airbus. We all have opinions but some need to attack others with a different opinion. I have my preferences but try not to push my opinions on others.


This has nothing to do with A vs. B.

It's a perception against this particular type (767) that I can't stand. Had this been one of DL's 2000-era 77E's or 738's nobody would have called the aircraft "tired", and this story would not have made the rounds in the media.


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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:26 am

Do we know if it was a slide pack, an inflated slide or maybe just the outer cover? I am surprised there have been no pictures.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:40 pm

kiowa wrote:
Do we know if it was a slide pack, an inflated slide or maybe just the outer cover? I am surprised there have been no pictures.


There are pictures in the article from my original post... https://www.boston25news.com/news/evacu ... 1014535831

It definitely looks like an uninflated slide, but I'm not sure if the cover/other components are tangled up in that mess too
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:36 pm

mikegigs wrote:
kiowa wrote:
Do we know if it was a slide pack, an inflated slide or maybe just the outer cover? I am surprised there have been no pictures.


There are pictures in the article from my original post... https://www.boston25news.com/news/evacu ... 1014535831

It definitely looks like an uninflated slide, but I'm not sure if the cover/other components are tangled up in that mess too

From the photos, it does look like an uninflated inflatable; even the aspirator seem to be missing, maybe it stays behind with the hose and bottle.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:25 pm

WayexTDI wrote:
mikegigs wrote:
kiowa wrote:
Do we know if it was a slide pack, an inflated slide or maybe just the outer cover? I am surprised there have been no pictures.


There are pictures in the article from my original post... https://www.boston25news.com/news/evacu ... 1014535831

It definitely looks like an uninflated slide, but I'm not sure if the cover/other components are tangled up in that mess too

From the photos, it does look like an uninflated inflatable; even the aspirator seem to be missing, maybe it stays behind with the hose and bottle.


thank you for the pics. it does look like an uninflated slide. that certainly would have been bad to have landed in a school yard or a freeway. i wonder why it did not auto-inflate.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:48 am

kiowa wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
mikegigs wrote:

There are pictures in the article from my original post... https://www.boston25news.com/news/evacu ... 1014535831

It definitely looks like an uninflated slide, but I'm not sure if the cover/other components are tangled up in that mess too

From the photos, it does look like an uninflated inflatable; even the aspirator seem to be missing, maybe it stays behind with the hose and bottle.


thank you for the pics. it does look like an uninflated slide. that certainly would have been bad to have landed in a school yard or a freeway. i wonder why it did not auto-inflate.

From the information we've seen so far, it's an over-wing slide; the inflation command is done by opening the over-wing exit.
As it appears the container door opened and the slide was "sucked" out, the inflation was never commanded.
Also, it does appear the aspirator is missing from the inflatable; without the aspirator, the slide would not inflate, even if the inflation was commanded.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:44 am

1989worstyear wrote:
kiowa wrote:
zuckie13 wrote:
Makes sense it's the wing slide. If it was a door, pilots would have gotten a door indication in addition to hearing a bang.


I would hope that the pilots would get a cockpit indicator of some sort. Deltas 757/767 fleet is getting a bit tired.


I do find it funny how the BA A320 fume event does not get a peep in the media but this is blowing up.

If this happened on a 29 year old A320 or 20 year old 772 would you have said this?


Actually if you look at the pics. It didn't blow up!
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:49 am

kiowa wrote:
Do we know if it was a slide pack, an inflated slide or maybe just the outer cover? I am surprised there have been no pictures.


Did you read the post # 1 at all?
click the news link which shows the slide in the persons yard. I would assume that would be considered a pic of the slide!
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 10:58 am

Ok, seems like people are blowing this thing out of proportion (no pun intended). An external slide that was not inflated fell off the aircraft because the cover hatch failed. While the problem needs to be addressed if as said it has happened before, it's not the worlds most major problem, unless you're on the ground and get hit by it.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:11 am

This had happened on both B757 and B767s. Even when they were pretty new. So little to do with ageing.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:29 pm

Up side, no one got hurt, just some dented grass. Aside, are life rafts marked with the airline name?
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:49 pm

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Up side, no one got hurt, just some dented grass. Aside, are life rafts marked with the airline name?


Not marked by the manufacturer but will normally have an operator installed "date of expiration" sticker that identifies the carrier.
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:03 pm

If I learned anything here is that Delta can do no wrong.
So who is at fault here? Is it skywest, is it outsourced gate agents or is it boe.... I mean airbus?
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:14 pm

miegapele wrote:
If I learned anything here is that Delta can do no wrong.
So who is at fault here? Is it skywest, is it outsourced gate agents or is it boe.... I mean airbus?

Since when does Skywest fly 767s???

If it is installation error, it'll be Delta's fault.
It could also simply be a part that failed, just because. There is not always a "culprit" as to why something happens; $h!t does happen.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:22 pm

Out of curiosity, does anyone know what triggers the slide deployment? Is it just the handle on the exit being moved, or does the door truly have to open for it to trigger normally?
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:10 pm

zuckie13 wrote:
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what triggers the slide deployment? Is it just the handle on the exit being moved, or does the door truly have to open for it to trigger normally?

Which slide/exit are you talking about? This specific one, or in general?

On door-mounted slides, once activated, the slide will "fall" out of its container when the door is opened, and a cable will trigger the inflation by opening the pressure regulator/valve that closes the gas cylinder.
On over-wing exits, I believe opening the hatch will have the same effect.
On fuselage-mounted door slides (such as the 2L/R on the A321), once armed, I believe the door opening movement will pull a cable that triggers the inflation.
 
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Re: Evacuation Slide Falls from DL Flight

Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:15 pm

WayexTDI wrote:
zuckie13 wrote:
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what triggers the slide deployment? Is it just the handle on the exit being moved, or does the door truly have to open for it to trigger normally?

Which slide/exit are you talking about? This specific one, or in general?

On door-mounted slides, once activated, the slide will "fall" out of its container when the door is opened, and a cable will trigger the inflation by opening the pressure regulator/valve that closes the gas cylinder.
On over-wing exits, I believe opening the hatch will have the same effect.
On fuselage-mounted door slides (such as the 2L/R on the A321), once armed, I believe the door opening movement will pull a cable that triggers the inflation.


Sorry, I meant this specific one.

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