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AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:05 pm

https://abcnews.go.com/US/plane-forced- ... d=67438082
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-woman- ... ue-1474960

The flight took off from Pensacola at 5:43 a.m. last Friday. Once in the air, Wood said the woman, who has not been identified publicly, began to fake a medical emergency after being told she couldn’t get a larger seat because “the seats were all the same.” The Pensacola News Journal reported that the entire plane had to be evacuated after the woman refused to get off the flight.

Officers from the department were called to Pensacola International Airport after the flight landed back there at around 6.30 a.m. and the woman said she had made up the medical issue in order to get a bigger seat on that plane or another flight. Wood told Newsweek the woman is "larger" and was not comfortable in the seat she had been assigned.


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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:16 pm

"leave me alone, its glandular!"
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:28 pm

The only one whose powers of shenanigans can match Florida Man.....is Florida Woman!
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:32 pm

72 hours in a padded cell to ponder the wisdom of her poor choices... brilliant!
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:42 pm

I believe in hindsight that she might discover that booking a 1st class ticket would have been much cheaper and more convenient....

Depending on the mental evaluation. This is federal charges + a solid 6 Figure $ Bill from the airline for the cost of the diversion.

Have a great day,
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:53 pm

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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:12 am

2175301 wrote:
This is federal charges + a solid 6 Figure $ Bill from the airline for the cost of the diversion,


Would be surprised to see an ERJ cost more than $8000 an hour, and only a 45 minute sector.

How do you come up with 6 figures ?

According to the article the passenger is undergoing medical evaluation, and no charges have been filed to date.
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:12 am

2175301 wrote:
I believe in hindsight that she might discover that booking a 1st class ticket would have been much cheaper and more convenient....

Depending on the mental evaluation. This is federal charges + a solid 6 Figure $ Bill from the airline for the cost of the diversion.

Have a great day,

And added names to the no fly list ! Hope she likingthose greyhound seats !
 
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Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:17 am

What an absolute idiot.
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:28 am

rampbro wrote:
The only one whose powers of shenanigans can match Florida Man.....is Florida Woman!


Amen. As a Florida resident I witness this multiple times daily. Hope she gets the help she needs.
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:43 am

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Floridians cause AA to have a much higher complaint rate. Can you imagine dealing with idiots like this on a daily basis? It happens! She needs to pay the fuel bill. With the exception of JAX , the rest of the state is enormously unappealing. Not because of the scenery, but because of the entitled, rude, arrogant residents
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:53 am

Banned. For. Life. Take your money somewhere else, chicky.
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:54 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Wood told Newsweek the woman is "larger" and was not comfortable in the seat she had been assigned.


Depending on what "larger" means, it sounds like she should have been forced to buy two seats. AA's own policy, which they rarely enforce, is pretty strict:

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/spe ... extraspace

Hopefully this will cause them to start enforcing their own rules!
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:32 am

zeke wrote:
2175301 wrote:
This is federal charges + a solid 6 Figure $ Bill from the airline for the cost of the diversion,


Would be surprised to see an ERJ cost more than $8000 an hour, and only a 45 minute sector.

How do you come up with 6 figures ?

According to the article the passenger is undergoing medical evaluation, and no charges have been filed to date.


My memory is that in the last several years there have been at least 2 people billed for diversion cost - and my memory is that those bills were over $100,000.

The operating cost of the aircraft itself is only a minor part of what it cost an airline to divert and appropriately accommodate other passengers, etc. I would have thought that you would have known that.

Have a great day,
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:01 am

2175301 wrote:
My memory is that in the last several years there have been at least 2 people billed for diversion cost - and my memory is that those bills were over $100,000.


Were these people billed over $100k or did they pay over $100k? There's a big difference. You can bill broke people $100k, $200k, or $10 million if you want. You're going to collect the same amount: zero.
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:58 am

2175301 wrote:
My memory is that in the last several years there have been at least 2 people billed for diversion cost - and my memory is that those bills were over $100,000.


I think you are referring to a Norwegian 787 and a Hawaiian A330 both involved long diversions. The cost of them per hour is going to be 5 times higher than a little ERJ, and you are talking about 45 minutes of extra flying on a small aircraft, probably about 1000 kg of fuel. That’s around $800.

Putting 50 or so people up in a hotel isn’t a big sum, the airline probably gets rooms for under $100 a night on a wide body probably looking at 5 times as many people.
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:35 am

IPFreely wrote:
2175301 wrote:
My memory is that in the last several years there have been at least 2 people billed for diversion cost - and my memory is that those bills were over $100,000.


Were these people billed over $100k or did they pay over $100k? There's a big difference. You can bill broke people $100k, $200k, or $10 million if you want. You're going to collect the same amount: zero.


Maybe, but between liens on whatever said person owes and the risk of having to file for bankruptcy, they are sure to ruin someone's financial life. At least I'd assume so. At least that's a deterrent to some...
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:13 pm

zeke wrote:
2175301 wrote:
This is federal charges + a solid 6 Figure $ Bill from the airline for the cost of the diversion,


Would be surprised to see an ERJ cost more than $8000 an hour, and only a 45 minute sector.

How do you come up with 6 figures ?

According to the article the passenger is undergoing medical evaluation, and no charges have been filed to date.

It wasn't a 45 minute sector - in this case, it is fed back at PNS after 45 minutes. The distance is 853km great circle distance, and according to FR24 has an average flight time of 1:18.

In the event, the flight redeparted at 7:41 (2:04 behind schedule), and arrived at Miami at 9:56 (1:38 behind schedule), so there will have been no costs for putting Pax up in hotels or anything, (misconnections not withstanding)
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:30 pm

IPFreely wrote:
2175301 wrote:
My memory is that in the last several years there have been at least 2 people billed for diversion cost - and my memory is that those bills were over $100,000.


Were these people billed over $100k or did they pay over $100k? There's a big difference. You can bill broke people $100k, $200k, or $10 million if you want. You're going to collect the same amount: zero.

Most people have some form of Liability Insurance (usually with your Homeowner's or Renter's Insurance); the airline lawyers can ask the defendant to tap into that line.
At the end of the day, it's not the person himself/herself who ends up paying, but their insurance (just like for an accident); but it can ding their insurance rate pretty badly.
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:57 pm

2175301 wrote:
zeke wrote:
2175301 wrote:
This is federal charges + a solid 6 Figure $ Bill from the airline for the cost of the diversion,


Would be surprised to see an ERJ cost more than $8000 an hour, and only a 45 minute sector.

How do you come up with 6 figures ?

According to the article the passenger is undergoing medical evaluation, and no charges have been filed to date.


My memory is that in the last several years there have been at least 2 people billed for diversion cost - and my memory is that those bills were over $100,000.

The operating cost of the aircraft itself is only a minor part of what it cost an airline to divert and appropriately accommodate other passengers, etc. I would have thought that you would have known that.

Have a great day,


Depends on the size of the plane, the expenses incurred, etc. This was an E-145 which probably costs $5000 an hour to operate. Double that number to $10,000 and charge for any missed connections, and maybe you hit $20,000.
 
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Re: AA3508 11/29/19 returns for faked medical emergency

Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:11 pm

2175301 wrote:
zeke wrote:
2175301 wrote:
This is federal charges + a solid 6 Figure $ Bill from the airline for the cost of the diversion,

Would be surprised to see an ERJ cost more than $8000 an hour, and only a 45 minute sector.
How do you come up with 6 figures ?
According to the article the passenger is undergoing medical evaluation, and no charges have been filed to date.

My memory is that in the last several years there have been at least 2 people billed for diversion cost - and my memory is that those bills were over $100,000.
The operating cost of the aircraft itself is only a minor part of what it cost an airline to divert and appropriately accommodate other passengers, etc. I would have thought that you would have known that.
Have a great day,


To Zeke's defence (not that he needs any . . . ), we would have thought you would also have known that the cost you were referring to would be fairly proportional to the number of passengers carried.

I'd guess a significant 5 Figure Bill would be more fitting for an ERJ :-)
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