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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:21 pm

https://thepointsguy.com/news/japan-air ... tions-usa/

Japan Airlines is considering new destinations to the U.S. as soon as 2021 on both coasts.

MCO, IAD, and SJC are among the largest unserved markets.

JAL’s A350-1000s are expected to replace the 777-300ERs on U.S. routes as soon as 2023.

Notably, JAL hopes to continue partnering with LATAM.

Additionally, this article says ANA, JAL, and ZIPAIR are in talks with MCO. “Service likely won’t be established until 2021”

https://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/new ... irect.html
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:33 pm

Where is MIA? Seriously? I mean I get MCO to an extent but wouldn't MIA make more sense especially as a OW partner? And then if they wanted to wanted to continue with LATAM to some degree... Idk i think something is missing here?
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:34 pm

balz18 wrote:
Where is MIA? Seriously? I mean I get MCO to an extent but wouldn't MIA make more sense especially as a OW partner? And then if they wanted to wanted to continue with LATAM to some degree... Idk i think something is missing here?

Like MIA-NRT or MIA-HND?
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:35 pm

“Talks” don’t mean anything. Every decently managed airport is in ongoing talks with their logical next carriers. The existence of talks is not indicative of something happening soon.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:36 pm

I don't know about IAD or SJC with All Nippon airways on those routes.
MCO or MIA. could work.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:36 pm

asr0dzjq wrote:
balz18 wrote:
Where is MIA? Seriously? I mean I get MCO to an extent but wouldn't MIA make more sense especially as a OW partner? And then if they wanted to wanted to continue with LATAM to some degree... Idk i think something is missing here?

Like MIA-NRT or MIA-HND?


Yes exactly what I was thinking.
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:37 pm

MCO has higher PDEW to Japan than MIA. But the PDEW amount is so low that the flight may struggle. Also every city in Latin America can be reached from LAX/DFW/JFK with the AA or LATAM partnership. Remember AA now flies LAX/DFW/JFK-GRU/EZE.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:43 pm

enilria wrote:
“Talks” don’t mean anything. Every decently managed airport is in ongoing talks with their logical next carriers. The existence of talks is not indicative of something happening soon.


Definitely. Miami has been in talks for Asia service for how many years now?
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 4:51 pm

balz18 wrote:
Where is MIA? Seriously? I mean I get MCO to an extent but wouldn't MIA make more sense especially as a OW partner? And then if they wanted to wanted to continue with LATAM to some degree... Idk i think something is missing here?



I love that it only took 2 replies to get someone peeved about MIA :lol:

The 2nd article is from an Orlando newspaper.

The 1st article did NOT say MIA was out of the running.

Where are you getting this idea that MIA is a no-go?

The official, JAL senior vice-president for the Americas Kiyoto Morioka...didn't mention any specific cities.
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:00 pm

I would think PHL would be a slam dunk considering the onward OneWorld connections and the fact it would be the first link from the airport to east Asia
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:03 pm

The Dark Horse in this race for a new U.S. city is PHX. With AA's focus city, it would be a win-win for JAL and AA #Oneworld.
JAL would be the only carrier flying nonstop flying to Asia and beyond
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:05 pm

PHL (jk it's not happening)
I'm surprised IAD is not served now by JAL. MCO makes sense since no Asian carrier serves Florida. Wouldn't be surprised if ATL is in the running.
CLT is a tough call to because I'm not sure if the demand is there(same problem for PHL)
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:36 pm

Would love to see JAL serve MIA but I don't think it is going happen anytime soon if at all. There are just too many places to connect along the way from MIA to Japan to make that route doable.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:42 pm

x1234 wrote:
MCO has higher PDEW to Japan than MIA. But the PDEW amount is so low that the flight may struggle. Also every city in Latin America can be reached from LAX/DFW/JFK with the AA or LATAM partnership. Remember AA now flies LAX/DFW/JFK-GRU/EZE.


I can't publicly disclose the actual PDEW between Japan (the country) and MCO, but it's certainly high enough to sustain 2x week service, particularly for a leisure market where people arrive and depart around resort booking patterns.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:44 pm

You have Las Vegas the largest unserved US-Japan market.

Of course LAS might be up ZIP Air alley in 2021 when it starts U.S. service.
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:48 pm

I would love to see IAD personally but I doubt they want to take on a Star A* stronghold that already has two daily flights. PHL actually makes some sense, I remember US planned to use the A350 to fly to Japan from PHL before the merger. Does CLT have any Japanese Auto business in the region? I know the Germans do.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:56 pm

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Would love to see JAL serve MIA but I don't think it is going happen anytime soon if at all. There are just too many places to connect along the way from MIA to Japan to make that route doable.


It's not just MIA-TYO O&D traffic; it would also enable way more one-stop options, especially to tier-2 Asian cities. Right now from MIA, if you want to fly on OW, you basically have to fly through LAX to get to Asia and that only gets you to HKG, TYO, PEK, and PVG. If you want to get to a tier-2 city you'd need to do another connection in TYO or HKG. A MIA-TYO flight would save that extra connection.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:13 pm

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Right now from MIA, if you want to fly on OW, you basically have to fly through LAX to get to Asia and that only gets you to HKG, TYO, PEK, and PVG.


Can anyone cite the PDEWs MIA-East/South Asia? With Great Circle routes there are lots of time-efficient connections via JFK/EWR/ORD/DFW, even DTW.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:18 pm

The article says US destinations but the JAL picture says North America. I think we can include more Canadian destinations in this cause Vancouver is shown in the picture. YYZ is underserved for Japan and I think NH or JL should jump to this opportunity as there is demand.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:25 pm

The discussion about MIA to Japan flights is akin to discussions about SFO getting nonstop flights to deep South America. There are too many connecting points along the way and the lack of strong demand to SA from SFO prevents non stops from happening.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:34 pm

Interestingly enough, no flights to Washington D.C./Baltimore.
Shouldn't there be one since both cities are the seat of the Government for both countries and the fact that JAL is a flag carrier?

Also Portland, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Denver, Salt Lake City, Houston, Austin, Charlotte, Minneapolis, Detroit, Philadelphia, St. Louis, San Jose and Sacramento.

These are way closer destinations than Orlando or Miami.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:52 pm

Ishrion wrote:
https://thepointsguy.com/news/japan-airlines-considering-more-destinations-usa/

Japan Airlines is considering new destinations to the U.S. as soon as 2021 on both coasts.

MCO, IAD, and SJC are among the largest unserved markets.

JAL’s A350-1000s are expected to replace the 777-300ERs on U.S. routes as soon as 2023.

Notably, JAL hopes to continue partnering with LATAM.

Additionally, this article says ANA, JAL, and ZIPAIR are in talks with MCO. “Service likely won’t be established until 2021”

https://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/new ... irect.html


I would love to see JA at SJC, but with NH there I doubt they'd do it.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:06 pm

Very important piece from the article “ Without providing specifics, he said JAL is considering cities on both coasts, though he noted that any market will only be added in coordination with its partner American Airlines“.
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:18 pm

I could see ZIPAIR expanding to LAS and MCO on a non-daily basis in the future.

JAL could launch SJC in the next 1-2 years, but with 7 daily nonstops between the Bay Area and Tokyo come next summer, I believe it may end up replacing the recently announced SFO-NRT.

AA would be better off flying PHL-NRT once they get some 787s based there. The flight could capture East Coast-Japan connections. If timed to make a 2 hour turnaround between 4-6 PM at NRT, it would be great for PHL-Asia connections, and rotate the frame with some PHL-Europe flying on the US end.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:29 pm

theasianguy wrote:
I could see ZIPAIR expanding to LAS and MCO on a non-daily basis in the future.

JAL could launch SJC in the next 1-2 years, but with 7 daily nonstops between the Bay Area and Tokyo come next summer, I believe it may end up replacing the recently announced SFO-NRT.

AA would be better off flying PHL-NRT once they get some 787s based there. The flight could capture East Coast-Japan connections. If timed to make a 2 hour turnaround between 4-6 PM at NRT, it would be great for PHL-Asia connections, and rotate the frame with some PHL-Europe flying on the US end.

AA seems to be pretty set on focusing Asian ops at DFW and LAX. I don't see them flying PHL-Asia anytime soon. NRT-PHL will have to come from JAL.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:43 pm

JL used to serve IAD with a 747 back in the 90s. Not sure if the flight was nonstop or if it stopped somewhere.

It would be nice to see them back in IAD, but I would say the market is pretty well served to TYO with both ANA (daily 77W) and UA on the route, both of whom just announced they were switching the route to HND. I think JL could probably make IAD work with a 787.
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:51 pm

I wouldn’t be surprised if some of these additions are essentially bought by incentives.

We already see some (quasi-governmental) third-parties essentially paying off the airlines to offer TATL service to their home airports. If it works that way for TATL service, TPAC additions are probably not far behind.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:55 pm

FLYKTPA wrote:
Very important piece from the article “ Without providing specifics, he said JAL is considering cities on both coasts, though he noted that any market will only be added in coordination with its partner American Airlines“.


Bingo, this is potentially MIA, PHX, PHL & CLT.
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:57 pm

dfwjim1 wrote:
Would love to see JAL serve MIA but I don't think it is going happen anytime soon if at all. There are just too many places to connect along the way from MIA to Japan to make that route doable.


In fairness, BOS is the same...yet there they are.
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:11 pm

Boston has a MUCH larger O/D demand to Japan and Asia than Miami does. Boston on its own can fill planes to Japan and Asia. Miami cannot. That's the difference.

ChrisNH38 wrote:
dfwjim1 wrote:
Would love to see JAL serve MIA but I don't think it is going happen anytime soon if at all. There are just too many places to connect along the way from MIA to Japan to make that route doable.


In fairness, BOS is the same...yet there they are.
 
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:11 pm

Jal and Latam have codeshare agreements between GRU-JFK-TYO and GRU-BOS-TYO.
I could swear that GRU-LHR-TYO was also an option.
 
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geoshina wrote:
Jal and Latam have codeshare agreements between GRU-JFK-TYO and GRU-BOS-TYO.
I could swear that GRU-LHR-TYO was also an option.


Wouldn't TYO-YYZ-GRU be better as it would avoid transiting through the US? It could be similar to CAN-YVR-MEX.
 
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MIflyer12 wrote:
DoctorVenkman wrote:
Right now from MIA, if you want to fly on OW, you basically have to fly through LAX to get to Asia and that only gets you to HKG, TYO, PEK, and PVG.


Can anyone cite the PDEWs MIA-East/South Asia? With Great Circle routes there are lots of time-efficient connections via JFK/EWR/ORD/DFW, even DTW.


I don't know current numbers, but I remember seeing data from another thread a few years ago where the largest markets volume-wise were MNL, TPE, and HKG, with MNL unsurprisingly having lower average fares and HKG having high average fares. I think well-timed MIA-NRT flights would be able to capture a mix of MIA-TYO O&D (relatively small), connecting traffic from MCO-Japan (high volume, probably lower yield, with plenty of competing one-stop options), connecting traffic from MIA to TPE/MNL/HKG (not as many good one-stop options for TPE/MNL), and TYO to Latin America. However, a "well-timed" flight on this route would likely be a morning departure on MIA-NRT and an evening arrival in the other direction, meaning JL would need to have an aircraft sit overnight (or utilize it on a 5th freedom mission to South America).

On the West Coast, I agree with some others that NRT-LAS would seem like a sensible initial U.S. route for ZIPAIR.
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Fri Dec 06, 2019 9:06 pm

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Jal and Latam have codeshare agreements between GRU-JFK-TYO and GRU-BOS-TYO.
I could swear that GRU-LHR-TYO was also an option.


https://www.jal.co.jp/inter/route/time/ ... 200328.pdf
https://www.jal.co.jp/inter/route/time/ ... 200328.pdf

It's LHR, CDG, FRA in Europe along with LAX, DFW, and JFK in US. GRU-BOS-TYO is one way as JL's TYO-BOS flight doesn't connect well to JJ's BOS-GRU (You have to wait 23 hrs).

As for potential market, PHL and PHX are always possibility. I personally also see MCO ahead of MIA - keep in mind that while JL do fly some international-international connections via NRT, it's not exactly their focus compare to Japan O&D.
 
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dfwjim1 wrote:
The discussion about MIA to Japan flights is akin to discussions about SFO getting nonstop flights to deep South America. There are too many connecting points along the way and the lack of strong demand to SA from SFO prevents non stops from happening.


Except that SFO has the PDEW to support it... BIG difference.
 
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dfwjim1 wrote:
Would love to see JAL serve MIA but I don't think it is going happen anytime soon if at all. There are just too many places to connect along the way from MIA to Japan to make that route doable.


It's not just MIA-TYO O&D traffic; it would also enable way more one-stop options, especially to tier-2 Asian cities. Right now from MIA, if you want to fly on OW, you basically have to fly through LAX to get to Asia and that only gets you to HKG, TYO, PEK, and PVG. If you want to get to a tier-2 city you'd need to do another connection in TYO or HKG. A MIA-TYO flight would save that extra connection.


Except you are forgetting Qatar fly to Miami and provide many one stop flights to Tier 2 cities in Asia. Also last I checked they are still in Oneworld.
 
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DoctorVenkman wrote:
dfwjim1 wrote:
Would love to see JAL serve MIA but I don't think it is going happen anytime soon if at all. There are just too many places to connect along the way from MIA to Japan to make that route doable.


It's not just MIA-TYO O&D traffic; it would also enable way more one-stop options, especially to tier-2 Asian cities. Right now from MIA, if you want to fly on OW, you basically have to fly through LAX to get to Asia and that only gets you to HKG, TYO, PEK, and PVG. If you want to get to a tier-2 city you'd need to do another connection in TYO or HKG. A MIA-TYO flight would save that extra connection.


Except you are forgetting Qatar fly to Miami and provide many one stop flights to Tier 2 cities in Asia. Also last I checked they are still in Oneworld.
 
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PHL (jk it's not happening)
I'm surprised IAD is not served now by JAL. MCO makes sense since no Asian carrier serves Florida. Wouldn't be surprised if ATL is in the running.
CLT is a tough call to because I'm not sure if the demand is there(same problem for PHL)

IAD would be a good destination as it is our nation's Capitol. Also? It has a damn good presence to the world with the Smithsonian
 
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I think this thread has collected every single possible pipe dream
 
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strfyr51 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
PHL (jk it's not happening)
I'm surprised IAD is not served now by JAL. MCO makes sense since no Asian carrier serves Florida. Wouldn't be surprised if ATL is in the running.
CLT is a tough call to because I'm not sure if the demand is there(same problem for PHL)

IAD would be a good destination as it is our nation's Capitol. Also? It has a damn good presence to the world with the Smithsonian


Well I will "try" to make an argument for PHL. PHL is well connected to DC with Amtrak. Philadelphia is the location where America was founded. Underrated city for sight seeing and tons of museums and shopping as well and opportunities for business development
 
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PHLspecial wrote:
strfyr51 wrote:
PHLspecial wrote:
PHL (jk it's not happening)
I'm surprised IAD is not served now by JAL. MCO makes sense since no Asian carrier serves Florida. Wouldn't be surprised if ATL is in the running.
CLT is a tough call to because I'm not sure if the demand is there(same problem for PHL)

IAD would be a good destination as it is our nation's Capitol. Also? It has a damn good presence to the world with the Smithsonian


Well I will "try" to make an argument for PHL. PHL is well connected to DC with Amtrak. Philadelphia is the location where America was founded. Underrated city for sight seeing and tons of museums and shopping as well and opportunities for business development


PHL is oneworld's primary East Coast hub and the connectivity there will make AA/JL relevant again for East Coast travellers to Asia outside of JFK/BOS. The current detour through DFW is not a very viable option.
 
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Memphis.
Think about it, Elvis, Graceland, 100% sold out every Eastbound flight.
Nothing but Elvis music on the flight. Cabin crew in period costumes with guys wearing blue suede shoes.
Meal service mimics the menu at Graceland.
All pax get a free one day admission to Graceland.
For the Japanese, that is a totally premium product.
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Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:14 am

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PHL is oneworld's primary East Coast hub

It is? On the basis of what? Not arguing with you or anything, just trying to understand your logic.

More OW carriers serve both JFK and MIA than PHL, and both are AA hubs. CLT technically has the most OW flights in North America after DFW, even though the only OW carrier currently serving CLT is AA.
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YYZORD wrote:
geoshina wrote:
Jal and Latam have codeshare agreements between GRU-JFK-TYO and GRU-BOS-TYO.
I could swear that GRU-LHR-TYO was also an option.


Wouldn't TYO-YYZ-GRU be better as it would avoid transiting through the US? It could be similar to CAN-YVR-MEX.

Why don't you just give this a rest? If they don't want to come to YYZ, they don't. No matter how you want to brag it up, it is hard rock fact.

If anyone wants to avoid US they can already fly on a ton other carriers.

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NamGunner wrote:
Memphis.
Think about it, Elvis, Graceland, 100% sold out every Eastbound flight.
Nothing but Elvis music on the flight. Cabin crew in period costumes with guys wearing blue suede shoes.
Meal service mimics the menu at Graceland.
All pax get a free one day admission to Graceland.
For the Japanese, that is a totally premium product.


Not gonna lie, that actually sounds awesome.

But seriously, to the OP, I would say BNA is a realistic possibility within the next 10 years, particularly after they extend 2L.
 
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eamondzhang wrote:
YYZORD wrote:
geoshina wrote:
Jal and Latam have codeshare agreements between GRU-JFK-TYO and GRU-BOS-TYO.
I could swear that GRU-LHR-TYO was also an option.


Wouldn't TYO-YYZ-GRU be better as it would avoid transiting through the US? It could be similar to CAN-YVR-MEX.

Why don't you just give this a rest? If they don't want to come to YYZ, they don't. No matter how you want to brag it up, it is hard rock fact.

If anyone wants to avoid US they can already fly on a ton other carriers.

Turning YYZ into the new DTW! Thread is about JAL to US and becomes a referendum on YYZ.

PHX and PHL are also obsessed with Asia regardless of carrier. JL makes the most sense given AA has stated DFW and LAX are the gateways.

If any of these routes were so high priority for AA they would have applied for HND routes. LAS was the only non DFW/LAX applied for. Even JL didn’t go for HND-LAS.

Might as well throw AUS, BNA, DTW, etc in the mix.

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Re: Japan Airlines Eyeing New U.S. Destinations

Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:02 am

flyingisthebest wrote:
DoctorVenkman wrote:
dfwjim1 wrote:
Would love to see JAL serve MIA but I don't think it is going happen anytime soon if at all. There are just too many places to connect along the way from MIA to Japan to make that route doable.


It's not just MIA-TYO O&D traffic; it would also enable way more one-stop options, especially to tier-2 Asian cities. Right now from MIA, if you want to fly on OW, you basically have to fly through LAX to get to Asia and that only gets you to HKG, TYO, PEK, and PVG. If you want to get to a tier-2 city you'd need to do another connection in TYO or HKG. A MIA-TYO flight would save that extra connection.


Except you are forgetting Qatar fly to Miami and provide many one stop flights to Tier 2 cities in Asia. Also last I checked they are still in Oneworld.


That and how many people fly between MIA and some random Tier 2 cities in (East/SE) Asia anyway? There is not even enough demand to warrant non-stops to Tier 1 (East/SE) Asian cities.

PHLspecial wrote:
Well I will "try" to make an argument for PHL. PHL is well connected to DC with Amtrak. Philadelphia is the location where America was founded. Underrated city for sight seeing and tons of museums and shopping as well and opportunities for business development


If a OW carrier decide to fly a TPAC flight into PHL, it'll be primarily for connection, and secondarily for businesses in Philly area. Sightseeing traffic can go in/out of DC or NYC as-is with a side trip to Philly.

usflyer msp wrote:
PHL is oneworld's primary East Coast hub and the connectivity there will make AA/JL relevant again for East Coast travellers to Asia outside of JFK/BOS. The current detour through DFW is not a very viable option.


There's always ORD...
 
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Re: Japan Airlines Eyeing New U.S. Destinations

Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:07 am

HND-PSP non stop?
 
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Re: Japan Airlines Eyeing New U.S. Destinations

Sat Dec 07, 2019 1:12 am

YYZORD wrote:
geoshina wrote:
Jal and Latam have codeshare agreements between GRU-JFK-TYO and GRU-BOS-TYO.
I could swear that GRU-LHR-TYO was also an option.


Wouldn't TYO-YYZ-GRU be better as it would avoid transiting through the US? It could be similar to CAN-YVR-MEX.


Certainly have to give you credit for perseverance. Every possible segue to suggest another carrier on TYO-YYZ and you jump on it! Bottom line is that both NH and JL know exactly how many people travel between the two and they have the rights to do it. They don’t. Take a hint.

Out of interest though, I looked at today’s AC 091, GRU-YYZ. Slightly oversold, but only a few connecting to HND. However, there were passengers connecting to 23 American cities on AC!!! I’m guessing that’s where the real money is.
Just because I stopped arguing, doesn't mean I think you are right. It just means I gave up!

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