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Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:16 pm

The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:52 pm

Marketing, makes it easy to identify the new Airbus for regular folk. Also some think it looks cool.
I believe its optional, at least on some models
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:56 pm

Lone Ranger mask?!?!? :spit:

It's a raccoon mask!
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:59 pm

For the same reason the 787 is branded the Dreamliner and the 737 was branded the MAX. It's a marketing effort.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:07 pm

You talk about silliness, yet you use "Airbii" as the plural of "Airbus"... :vomit:
Anyway, as stated before: it's just a marketing thing. The mask is present on the "brande new, high tech" A350 as a eye-catching item, so Airbus decided to line the other models up and add the mask too, so they all can become... well, "cool". I must say I really don't care about them.
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:08 pm

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Lone Ranger mask?!?!? :spit:

It's a raccoon mask!


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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:12 pm

Doesn't it supposedly have to do with easier window replacement if the area around it is a uniform color?
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:20 pm

aumaverick wrote:
scbriml wrote:
Lone Ranger mask?!?!? :spit:

It's a raccoon mask!


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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:46 pm

S0Y wrote:
Marketing, makes it easy to identify the new Airbus for regular folk. Also some think it looks cool.
I believe its optional, at least on some models

It's standard fit on A350 and there's more to it than the opportunistic afterthought marketing.

Airbus wrote:
“The A350 XWB is the first ever Airbus aircraft with curved cockpit glasses. These cockpit windows offer more than just the most futuristic, aesthetic and distinctive look. The new windshield enhances the overall aerodynamic efficiency of the aircraft,” said Donna Lloyd, Head of Communication Business Partners at Airbus. “The perfectly curved shape of the nose helps the air flow hug the surface, in the least turbulent manner, thereby reducing drag. The emblematic “Ray-Ban” like black windshield eases the window’s maintenance and contributes to harmonising the thermal condition of this temperature-sensitive window area. The slightly concave nose area (seen from the side) offers the pilots an optimal view of the immediate surroundings easing ground operations and making them safer.”
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:29 pm

F27500 wrote:
The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?

Why "silliness"? That's your opinion.

I personally like it. Also, Air Canada used a similar set-up on their new livery; so, it must not be "that" silly", at least not to all.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:37 pm

The funny thing is that SAS has made it part of their new livery. Everything from ATRs to CRJs and 737s are getting the Airbus raccoon mask.

Personally I like it.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:51 pm

Drove by a set of 2 Azul racoon 330NEO sitting at the gate in Brazil last week and they just looked totally badass. On top off that the big Trents actually complete the awesomeness.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:59 pm

EChid wrote:
For the same reason the 787 is branded the Dreamliner and the 737 was branded the MAX. It's a marketing effort.


The airbus equivalent to Dreamliner is the XWB part of the name, not the actual aircraft design.

There is no way Airbus is designing for the 0.0000001% of the population that cares about what an aircraft looks like.
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:11 pm

The Raccoon mask is simply part of the transition to a single piece glass wrap around cockpit window.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:20 pm

WayexTDI wrote:
F27500 wrote:
The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?

Why "silliness"? That's your opinion.

I personally like it. Also, Air Canada used a similar set-up on their new livery; so, it must not be "that" silly", at least not to all.



Air Canada's version is far worse! Hideous.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:24 pm

Despite the claims of thermo/aerodynamic blah, I'm pretty sure it was introduced on the 350 because the cockpit window design, similar to the space shuttle, is truly quite aesthetically hideous.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:28 pm

I like the mask look. It would be cool if Frontier would place this on their "Racoon " tailed aircraft.

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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:29 pm

I think it looks great. Best looking AB product flying.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:45 pm

ChrisKen wrote:
Airbus wrote:
“The A350 XWB is the first ever Airbus aircraft with curved cockpit glasses. These cockpit windows offer more than just the most futuristic, aesthetic and distinctive look. The new windshield enhances the overall aerodynamic efficiency of the aircraft,” said Donna Lloyd, Head of Communication Business Partners at Airbus. “The perfectly curved shape of the nose helps the air flow hug the surface, in the least turbulent manner, thereby reducing drag. The emblematic “Ray-Ban” like black windshield eases the window’s maintenance and contributes to harmonising the thermal condition of this temperature-sensitive window area. The slightly concave nose area (seen from the side) offers the pilots an optimal view of the immediate surroundings easing ground operations and making them safer.”

Since every airplane has the same window with the black border, there's also just one windshield common to all models. If one has to be replaced, there are no issues with needing to paint the repair to match a given airline's livery. If the windshield is available, it can be installed and needs nothing else.
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:46 pm

F27500 wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
F27500 wrote:
The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?

Why "silliness"? That's your opinion.

I personally like it. Also, Air Canada used a similar set-up on their new livery; so, it must not be "that" silly", at least not to all.



Air Canada's version is far worse! Hideous.

I know that everyone has their opinions but... IMO, the AC livery is amazing!
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:48 pm

For the same reason baseball players sometime wear eye black, it reduces glare . Also happens to be better looking
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:50 pm

Looks great on the A350, but I still prefer the A330neo maskless
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:17 pm

The reason is more to do with functionality where a cockpit window can be replaced without having to be painted to suit a particular airline livery which takes more turn around time. Check https://leehamnews.com/2015/07/03/bjorns-corner-bandit-mask-explained-and-nonexistent-ife-boxes/.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:20 pm

Karlsands wrote:
For the same reason baseball players sometime wear eye black, it reduces glare . Also happens to be better looking


A long time ago, when airliners had a matte black area directly ahead of the windshield, the justification for this was to reduce glare. The raccoon mask on the new Airbus is for a totally different reason.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:20 pm

If you back before the 60s, you'll find almost all airline schemes as well as many military had black noses. It was to reduce glare. There are still some hold overs that never got rid of it---Westjet for one.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:51 pm

Some people sure do throw around the exaggerated adjectives..."hideous". Really???
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbii ?

Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:58 pm

Antarius wrote:
EChid wrote:
For the same reason the 787 is branded the Dreamliner and the 737 was branded the MAX. It's a marketing effort.


The airbus equivalent to Dreamliner is the XWB part of the name, not the actual aircraft design.

There is no way Airbus is designing for the 0.0000001% of the population that cares about what an aircraft looks like.

It's two approaches to the same thing. If no one cared what an aircraft looked like, airlines wouldn't put as much effort as they do into liveries. People care about what an aircraft as called as much as they care about what it looks like. Lots of people know the Dreamliner name but have no idea what 787 means, just like lots of people know the A350 as 'that new plane with sunnies'.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:03 am

F27500 wrote:
The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?

Does anyone under 50 know who the Lone Ranger is?
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:37 am

Isn't the black paint also partly to help reduce glare / sun reflection into the cockpit?
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:43 am

aklrno wrote:
F27500 wrote:
The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?

Does anyone under 50 know who the Lone Ranger is?

There was a lone ranger movie with Johnny Depp within the last decade.
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 4:27 am

planecane wrote:
aklrno wrote:
F27500 wrote:
The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?

Does anyone under 50 know who the Lone Ranger is?

There was a lone ranger movie with Johnny Depp within the last decade.

I think Disney would find his question valid.
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:22 am

planecane wrote:
aklrno wrote:
F27500 wrote:
The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?

Does anyone under 50 know who the Lone Ranger is?

There was a lone ranger movie with Johnny Depp within the last decade.

Yes and it bombed at the box office worse than the woke all female Ghostbusters movie.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:09 am

F27500 wrote:
WayexTDI wrote:
F27500 wrote:
The cockpit windows wearing that new black paint design makes it look like the planes are wearing a Lone Ranger mask. Whats the reason for that silliness? I see it on the A320 series, 330 and 350. And can airlines opt out of that if they don't want it?

Why "silliness"? That's your opinion.

I personally like it. Also, Air Canada used a similar set-up on their new livery; so, it must not be "that" silly", at least not to all.



Air Canada's version is far worse! Hideous.


I try not to get into discussions about liveries because people have different tastes, but AC’s “mask” is so horrendous I make an exception.
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:15 am

It's intended to make the Airbus family more distinctive and personally I think it looks great. It's not optional on the A350/A330neo as far as I know but it is on the A320neo.
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:16 am

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Isn't the black paint also partly to help reduce glare / sun reflection into the cockpit?

Nope. Then why put it around the window?

The A350 mask is to allow easy swops of the curved cockpit windows without the need to repaint the frame.
Aibus decided to carry on the look on the A330neo. (which doesnt need it for replacing the windows)

Back in the 50s and 60s there was often a black area in front of the cockpit, which was there to reduce glare. Look back at old photos of B707/B747/B52/B47 etc.
The KC-135 tankers still keep this black paint. As those Westjet on their livery.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:28 am

Wait, isn't it "Airbii"?
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:38 am

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Wait, isn't it "Airbii"?


The plural of bus is buses - “Look at those two green buses over there.” As opposed to “Look at those two green bii over there.”

The plural of Airbus is Airbuses while the possessive is Airbus’s
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:41 am

scbriml wrote:
KFTG wrote:
Wait, isn't it "Airbii"?


The plural of bus is buses - “Look at those two green buses over there.” As opposed to “Look at those two green bii over there.”

The plural of Airbus is Airbuses while the possessive is Airbus’s

I beg to differ.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:15 am

aerokiwi wrote:
Despite the claims of thermo/aerodynamic blah, I'm pretty sure it was introduced on the 350 because the cockpit window design, similar to the space shuttle, is truly quite aesthetically hideous.


I think you are right here :-)

Also.....what is a LONE RANGER????
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:22 am

steman wrote:
Also.....what is a LONE RANGER????

Check out this Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_ ... (TV_series)
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:59 am

JetBuddy wrote:
The funny thing is that SAS has made it part of their new livery. Everything from ATRs to CRJs and 737s are getting the Airbus raccoon mask.

Personally I like it.



Well, Air Canada has been doing it since the 50s. Check out Trans Canada paint schemes and air canada schemes. Not all have but it started long before airbus.

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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:17 am

The mask is their new long range aircraft branding including the A321LR and XLR. The A350 got it because it looked too A380ish when being naked.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:37 am

No it has already been explained why
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:39 am

P1aneMad wrote:
planecane wrote:
aklrno wrote:
Does anyone under 50 know who the Lone Ranger is?

There was a lone ranger movie with Johnny Depp within the last decade.

Yes and it bombed at the box office worse than the woke all female Ghostbusters movie.


That is true. Maybe if the Lone Ranger would have been played by Gal Gadot it would have done better.
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 12:48 pm

flee wrote:
steman wrote:
Also.....what is a LONE RANGER????

Check out this Wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lone_ ... (TV_series)


Thank you

that´s why I didn´t get it.
Just an obscure reference to a US tv shows of decades past...gotta wonder why would anyone know about it outside of the US.

Lone Ranger or Racoon, I find the black mask around the cockpit windows attractive.
And if you happen to see an A350 without it.....it´s U.G.L.Y. so better keep the mask :-)
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 1:03 pm

I wonder what Airbus would say if Airline XYZ came and said: "OK, I'll take 50 A350s, but without the mask. Paint that silly thing anywhere you want, but not on my aircraft."
To be honest, I hoped at least one airline would do that. But since there is not a single one out there without the mask, there might be more to it than marketing.
Anyway, count me to the group that finds it ugly and rather childish. The next logical step would be painting flames on the rear of the engine cowlings :roll:
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:47 pm

SAS employees are colloquially referring to the A350 as the "A350 Eyeliner" as a play on words on the "787 Dreamliner" because of the raccoon mask. :D
 
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Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:54 pm

fraport wrote:
I wonder what Airbus would say if Airline XYZ came and said: "OK, I'll take 50 A350s, but without the mask. Paint that silly thing anywhere you want, but not on my aircraft."
To be honest, I hoped at least one airline would do that. But since there is not a single one out there without the mask, there might be more to it than marketing.


They might outright refuse, like they initially did to AA’s request for bare metal A300s.

Airbus probably has the upper hand since I doubt an airline would go through the trouble of determining that the A350 is best for their needs only to drop an order over the raccoon mask.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Sat Dec 14, 2019 10:16 pm

Because they can.
 
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Re: Why the Lone Ranger mask on the new Airbus'?

Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:54 am

scbriml wrote:
KFTG wrote:
Wait, isn't it "Airbii"?


The plural of bus is buses - “Look at those two green buses over there.” As opposed to “Look at those two green bii over there.”

The plural of Airbus is Airbuses while the possessive is Airbus’s


Isnt it Airbus' (without the s)?

Also it has been explained with facts as to why it was implemented. It is not a marketing gimmick.

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