Wheelsup0202
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December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:30 pm

Saw Hawaiian Airlines Flight #11 depart this morning from SFO on the 1s. The A330-200 made its typical left then made a right turn over Ocean Beach at 2,500 feet over the Golden Gate Bridge and along the SF waterfront towards Emeryville and then a turn and back out over the Golden Gate. Once passing the Golden Gate, the plane started ascending towards cruise altitude and HNL.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL11

Was there civilian air traffic in the way? Special new bay departure route?
 
MrBretz
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:34 pm

Something similar happened to me once while going from SFO to KOA. I thought something must have been wrong but sort of like this, they turned back and got on course. I was concerned that we were returning to the airport. I never got a chance to ask the pilots when we arrived. They stayed in the cockpit as I departed.
 
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:45 pm

Double pass over the bridge has me wondering if it could be publicity? In-flight photos for advertising maybe?
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:04 pm

I had a pilot give folks a sightseeing tour over the Olympic Mountains near Seattle once.
 
Pinto
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:06 pm

It is a special departure called the Bay Tour. I had it on the last UA Internarional 747 Depature.
 
timz
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:28 pm

The usual Bay Tour is climb and maintain 3000, remain over the water, depart Golden Gate Bridge heading 230 or some such. Never seen one go east over the Golden Gate until today.
 
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:38 pm

Could it be to waste some time if they took off too early to join the oceanic track? They could have been in line for takeoff and rather than waiting on tarmac and due to congestion they took off and made the additional maneuvering to spend some time to arrive at the entry point as scheduled (in case an earlier timeslot cannot be secured)
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:47 pm

It’s windy in SoCal but not Santa Ana. Could that have something to do with it? Our regional wind weather usually interacts.
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as739x
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Sun Dec 15, 2019 10:07 pm

As Pinto said, this is "The Bay Tour". We can request this on pushback with SFO ground. By the looks of the flight path (it was strange), the standard path off the 1's may have interfered with an OAK departure, so some vectoring was required. That, or the crew wanted both sides to get a view of the city. It's a nice gesture by the crew and Hawaiian in my opinion.

ikramerica wrote:
It’s windy in SoCal but not Santa Ana. Could that have something to do with it? Our regional wind weather usually interacts.


May I ask what the winds in SoCal would have anything to do with this?
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PSAatSAN4Ever
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:11 am

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL11

That definitely is one interesting departure! Almost something one would use for publicity shots such as this:

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I know it's not, but it reminds me of it.
 
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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:49 pm

PSAatSAN4Ever wrote:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/HAL11

That definitely is one interesting departure! Almost something one would use for publicity shots such as this:

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The photo (with conveniently removed copyright bar btw :wave: ) was taken at the Fleet Week. So yeah, that was a photo-op, not a real flight. They don't fly that low anymore, sadly..

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Re: December 15, 2019 HA#11 SFO-HNL Unusual Departure Route from SFO

Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:59 pm

as739x wrote:
As Pinto said, this is "The Bay Tour". We can request this on pushback with SFO ground. By the looks of the flight path (it was strange), the standard path off the 1's may have interfered with an OAK departure, so some vectoring was required. That, or the crew wanted both sides to get a view of the city. It's a nice gesture by the crew and Hawaiian in my opinion.

ikramerica wrote:
It’s windy in SoCal but not Santa Ana. Could that have something to do with it? Our regional wind weather usually interacts.


May I ask what the winds in SoCal would have anything to do with this?

Our regional wind weather usually interacts.

May I ask why you don’t read the entirety of a very short post?
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