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Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:53 am

The picture of AC's first Airbus A220 had me wondering about why Airbus chose not to apply the Racoon mask to the A220 series ? I read somewhere that the material of the A220 cockpit window frames might not lend itself to the mask, but looking at AC's example that might not be the case?

 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:04 am

Because it’s a Bombardier design?
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:06 am

I love the Racoon mask! Not a fan of the Air Canada interpretation but the original Airbus one is awesome!
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:07 am

Bhoy wrote:
Because it’s a Bombardier design?


AC have it on their 777s
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:15 am

zeke wrote:
Bhoy wrote:
Because it’s a Bombardier design?


AC have it on their 777s

AC have it on their CS3, too, as per the picture up thread. But it’s not an OEM requirement.
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:28 am

Bhoy wrote:
zeke wrote:
Bhoy wrote:
Because it’s a Bombardier design?


AC have it on their 777s

AC have it on their CS3, too, as per the picture up thread. But it’s not an OEM requirement.


AC's mask is part of their livery, it's on all of their aircraft.

Regarding OP's question, I assume because the original CSeries didn't have it, and it's a minor change. Besides, the aircraft is already hot enough as it is ;)
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:09 am

Is it because the mask is used by Airbus as a 'signature' feature/option on the Neo series ? Yes I know some customers don't take it up.
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:07 pm

VHOZ wrote:


It is kind of perplexing as to why the A220 doesn’t look as great in the Air Canada livery.

In the past everything Air Canada was painted upon looked good it seemed.
Aesthetically the A 340 got it right!
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:17 pm

Why is it necessary to add "Airbus" designation to A220? The A already denotes Airbus
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:41 pm

a36001 wrote:
I love the Racoon mask! Not a fan of the Air Canada interpretation but the original Airbus one is awesome!



Well, check the photo section. Air Canada has been masking the cockpit since the 50s. Trans Canada.... look it up. Then when they changed the name, it was continued. Can’t dispute facts..
So it is correctly stated you like the airbus interpretation of the air canada racoon mask.

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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:50 pm

Canadian Racoons don’t have masks. ;)
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:56 pm

The Air Canada mask is different and part of their new livery.

SAS on the other hand, has made the Airbus raccoon mask part of their new livery, and applying it to everything from CRJs and ATRs to 737s. The A350 is colloquially known as the A350 Eyeliner among SAS employees. :lol:

As to why the A220 doesn't have the mask, I don't know. Maybe it already looks awesome enough. It's a very nice design.
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:27 pm

Regardless mask or no mask, compared to an AC A340 or L1011... this aircraft in the AC livery is less than becoming.

but it’s only paint!
Aesthetically the A 340 got it right!
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:40 pm

I love the mask...
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:51 pm

KlimaBXsst wrote:
Regardless mask or no mask, compared to an AC A340 or L1011... this aircraft in the AC livery is less than becoming.

but it’s only paint!


Not sure you what you are suggesting. Those aircraft pre-exist the current livery.
If you are saying you like the older Air Canada livervies more, what does that have to do with AC220 and the new livery?
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:53 pm

yyztpa2 wrote:
KlimaBXsst wrote:
Regardless mask or no mask, compared to an AC A340 or L1011... this aircraft in the AC livery is less than becoming.

but it’s only paint!


Not sure you what you are suggesting. Those aircraft pre-exist the current livery.
If you are saying you like the older Air Canada livervies more, what does that have to do with AC220 and the new livery?


Yes maybe some retro paint on these birds would make it look better!
Aesthetically the A 340 got it right!
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:00 pm

Vladex wrote:
Why is it necessary to add "Airbus" designation to A220? The A already denotes Airbus


Not sure why but I'm assuming since Airbus already does that with all their other aircraft (A300, A320, A330) they wanted to keep it consistent.
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:31 pm

The A220 is a Bombardier design, not an Airbus design.
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:22 pm

As mentioned above: this is not originally an Airbus aircraft. The design and build was initiated by Bombardier. When airbus took over the CSeries program it was allocated an Airbus designation... The A220.
So although it is an Airbus it is by name only, the "Raccoon" mask is not part of the original design.

The black mask that AC aircraft wear is actually an interpretation of the Canada Goose and has no correlation to the mask that newer Airbus are offered with.

Thx :)
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:11 am

bhxdtw wrote:
As mentioned above: this is not originally an Airbus aircraft. The design and build was initiated by Bombardier. When airbus took over the CSeries program it was allocated an Airbus designation... The A220.
So although it is an Airbus it is by name only, the "Raccoon" mask is not part of the original design.

The black mask that AC aircraft wear is actually an interpretation of the Canada Goose and has no correlation to the mask that newer Airbus are offered with.

Thx :)


Sorry I was not clear before, the question was more on if there was a manufacturing reason on why it was not done on the A220 (as I vaguely recall reading it somewhere, might have been on one the forums here).

I am aware of the design decision behind the Air Canada's mask (that it has nothing to do with Airbus's mask) and used the picture here as an example.

I was under the impression Air Canada's mask was derived from the design of the indigenous totem pole?
 
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Re: Lack of the racoon mask on Airbus A220?

Tue Dec 24, 2019 2:53 am

ikolkyo wrote:
Canadian Racoons don’t have masks. ;)



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