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Blerg wrote:I saw on Instagram they got an A319. Anyone have more info on that?
juliuswong wrote:Blerg wrote:I saw on Instagram they got an A319. Anyone have more info on that?
Ex-Rossiya Airlines abd Air China vintage:
https://financialtribune.com/articles/d ... -air-fleet
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ine/e0vxmr
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ine/ekz5ne
https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... ine/3xjdve
TUGMASTER wrote:Unbelievable....within 3 posts, this thread has gone off topic.
keesje wrote:From HighRes pictures I have seen from old aircraft in service in Iran, most cockpits look real well maintained from the outside.
It seems they have good processes, quality systems, shops, money for that.
Northwest1988 wrote:Does the A300B2 still have a flight engineer?
DIJKKIJK wrote:Northwest1988 wrote:Does the A300B2 still have a flight engineer?
Yes, as does the B4.
LJ wrote:Does it still fly? Just looking on flightradar, but it cannot find any recent flight. Moreover, if you look at the picture it seems as if it stands in a storage area of IKA.
LJ wrote:Does it still fly? Just looking on flightradar, but it cannot find any recent flight. Moreover, if you look at the picture it seems as if it stands in a storage area of IKA.
DIJKKIJK wrote:Yes, as does the B4.
blacksoviet wrote:I wonder what will happen to the Flight Engineer when this plane is finally retired. Are there any B4’s he can fly?
ParkFSI wrote:Analog instruments, love them.
DIJKKIJK wrote:It also seems they also have a very reliable network of spare part vendors who help them keep these machines in the air.
blacksoviet wrote:ParkFSI wrote:Analog instruments, love them.
Are analog instruments more reliable than CRT or LCD monitors?
They say the Air Force prefers them on the VC-25s.
scbriml wrote:TUGMASTER wrote:Unbelievable....within 3 posts, this thread has gone off topic.
There really isn't much more to say that's on-topic.
It is the only A300B2 in service. It may be the oldest passenger widebody in airline operation.
blacksoviet wrote:I wonder what will happen to the Flight Engineer when this plane is finally retired. Are there any B4’s he can fly?
memphiX wrote:It is sad to see that some country is trying to keep a 40 years old plane aloft while other countries (Vietnam for an example) is banning planes that are 15 or older.
juliuswong wrote:memphiX wrote:It is sad to see that some country is trying to keep a 40 years old plane aloft while other countries (Vietnam for an example) is banning planes that are 15 or older.
Well, there are many factors that come into play and there are no apale to apple comparison.
For Iran it is pretty obvious the trade and political sanction has resulted in them unable to get more new aircraft or even spare parts to refurbish the current ones. The recent newer additions A321, A330 and ATR 72 brought some relief to IranAir. However it is insufficient, to IranAir and Iran Aviation industry as whole. There are some 20+/30+ aircraft still flying to obscure places in Iran. The road network in Iran especially to outskirts are very patchy, hence the great demand for flight. The recent activation of Mahan Air 744 EP-MNB after nine years storage is a good example. Note that Iran Government and private airlines have signed hundreds of new deal before Donald Trump canned the deals and forced EU to do so as well although Airbus and ATR were very keen to continue their orders.
Below are some of the deals:
Iran Air: 46 Airbus A320 /A320neo family aircraft; 16 A350s, and 38 A330ceos/A330neos, 20 ATR 72-600, 50 737 MAX 8s, 15 777-300ERs and 15 777-9s
Iran Aseman Airlines: 30 737 MAX
Airtour Airlines and Zagros Airlines: 73 planes, not specified
Kish Air: 10 737Max
In Vietnam Airlines case, it is slightly different. Those shiny new B787 and A350 came at the right time when their previous B772 and A332 fleet are in dire need of replacement. While from outsiders, it looks like the local government is trying to protect the flying public from flying older aircraft (good intetion indeed!), however looking deep, they are imposing such ruling to stifle new entrant opportunity, especially the recent start ups. Bamboo Airways for example is paying more generous package than VN's, many pilot and cabin crew have left the latter for Bamboo. Well, coincidentally Bamboo is now doing roadshow to attract new investors to shore up their balance sheet. Hope they can make it.
memphiX wrote:It is sad to see that some country is trying to keep a 40 years old plane aloft while other countries (Vietnam for an example) is banning planes that are 15 or older.
SR380 wrote:juliuswong wrote:memphiX wrote:It is sad to see that some country is trying to keep a 40 years old plane aloft while other countries (Vietnam for an example) is banning planes that are 15 or older.
Well, there are many factors that come into play and there are no apale to apple comparison.
For Iran it is pretty obvious the trade and political sanction has resulted in them unable to get more new aircraft or even spare parts to refurbish the current ones. The recent newer additions A321, A330 and ATR 72 brought some relief to IranAir. However it is insufficient, to IranAir and Iran Aviation industry as whole. There are some 20+/30+ aircraft still flying to obscure places in Iran. The road network in Iran especially to outskirts are very patchy, hence the great demand for flight. The recent activation of Mahan Air 744 EP-MNB after nine years storage is a good example. Note that Iran Government and private airlines have signed hundreds of new deal before Donald Trump canned the deals and forced EU to do so as well although Airbus and ATR were very keen to continue their orders.
Below are some of the deals:
Iran Air: 46 Airbus A320 /A320neo family aircraft; 16 A350s, and 38 A330ceos/A330neos, 20 ATR 72-600, 50 737 MAX 8s, 15 777-300ERs and 15 777-9s
Iran Aseman Airlines: 30 737 MAX
Airtour Airlines and Zagros Airlines: 73 planes, not specified
Kish Air: 10 737Max
In Vietnam Airlines case, it is slightly different. Those shiny new B787 and A350 came at the right time when their previous B772 and A332 fleet are in dire need of replacement. While from outsiders, it looks like the local government is trying to protect the flying public from flying older aircraft (good intetion indeed!), however looking deep, they are imposing such ruling to stifle new entrant opportunity, especially the recent start ups. Bamboo Airways for example is paying more generous package than VN's, many pilot and cabin crew have left the latter for Bamboo. Well, coincidentally Bamboo is now doing roadshow to attract new investors to shore up their balance sheet. Hope they can make it.
I know this as already been discuss in this forum, but what is the fuel consumption of an A300B2 compared to an Il96-300?
I am asking this because now the Airbus/Boeing deal seems to be jeopardized, could we see IR going for Russian/Chinese airframe such as IL-114/MC-21/C-919/CR-929 or even some IL-96 for a short term period?
Or will they continue to buy older Airbus products and service them like they do (BTW I am always amazed how airline such as IR or JS are taking care of their planes. I flew a 1976 JS AN-24 that was in pristine condition!)?
Thanks
Thunderbolt500 wrote:I wonder could a us citizen go fly to iran or are they still upset about 79
marcelh wrote:Thunderbolt500 wrote:I wonder could a us citizen go fly to iran or are they still upset about 79
A US citizen should have more problems when trying to enter the USA again after visited Iran. It’s more the USA is upset about 79.
Slash787 wrote:This is why I keep on saying that Iran Air needs new planes.
memphiX wrote:It is sad to see that some country is trying to keep a 40 years old plane aloft while other countries (Vietnam for an example) is banning planes that are 15 or older.
opticalilyushin wrote:marcelh wrote:Thunderbolt500 wrote:I wonder could a us citizen go fly to iran or are they still upset about 79
A US citizen should have more problems when trying to enter the USA again after visited Iran. It’s more the USA is upset about 79.
Americans are welcomed just as warmly as virtually any other nationality in Iran. It's almost at an embarassing level when everyone wants to talk to you, welcome you to their country, and it's normal to be given phone numbers or contact details, with the invite to visit their town or to be shown around, as their guest.
Antaras wrote:The best thing they can do is leasing or even purchasing airframes, they need to find some lessors/frames' owners which are not based in Western countries (some Asian lessors such as CALC, ICBC and SALE).