On a postive note, at least their plane didn't crash like Northwest #6231 when flying to Buffalo to pick up the Baltimore Colts back on 12-1-74..

Isn't a 777 kind of an overkill for a football team? I believe most soccer teams manage to fit in a narrowbody, why such a big bird for them?

Wayfarer515 wrote:

Isn't a 777 kind of overkill for a football team?

Yes, though not at all uncommon. Even some 744s get thrown in there.

Wayfarer515 wrote:

Isn't a 777 kind of an overkill for a football team? I believe most soccer teams manage to fit in a narrowbody, why such a big bird for them?

When you compare the size of an average soccer player & that of an American football player, it's obvious why they needed a widebody jet for even short trips.

Wayfarer515 wrote:

Isn't a 777 kind of an overkill for a football team? I believe most soccer teams manage to fit in a narrowbody, why such a big bird for them?

The amount of equipment an NFL team brings is also much greater than a soccer team. Usually the equipment alone is 5-6 containers, not even considering a few containers for luggage.

Devilfish wrote:

ctrabs0114 wrote:

Also, I think PHL is a 767/A330 base (soon to be a 787 base once the new batch of Dreamliners arrive to supplant some, if not all, of the 330s based at PHL and CLT)

So what went tech...A or B...the report did not say which.....

It was a DFW based 777-200ER. Even though the report itself didn't say so specifically, some of the tweets in the article referred to a 777.

wjcandee wrote:

After Cowboys' most-recent defeat, AA added insult to injury by being unable to move them expeditiously when an aircraft went tech, due to inability to find a plane/pilot combination that would work. At a hub.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowb ... for-hours/

That never happened when the Cowboys had Landry, Staubach, and a dedicated aircraft by Braniff International.

Please change the title... they were NOT stranded they were delayed! You AA haters are awful!!!

Wayfarer515 wrote:

Isn't a 777 kind of an overkill for a football team? I believe most soccer teams manage to fit in a narrowbody, why such a big bird for them?

NFL Teams travel with 140-180 or so personnel, so it's not a small contingent. 53 active (and not so small) players, plus a few spares, coaches, medical/trainers, security, equipment personnel, video crews, etc....
They also travel with probably 20,000+ pounds or more of equipment.

No way a single narrow body can work fro this.

zuckie13 wrote:

Wayfarer515 wrote:

Isn't a 777 kind of an overkill for a football team? I believe most soccer teams manage to fit in a narrowbody, why such a big bird for them?

NFL Teams travel with 140-180 or so personnel, so it's not a small contingent. 53 active (and not so small) players, plus a few spares, coaches, medical/trainers, security, equipment personnel, video crews, etc....
They also travel with probably 20,000+ pounds or more of equipment.

No way a single narrow body can work fro this.

There was a video on ESPN about this recently. It's amazing the amount of planning and effort it takes to move a LOT of stuff, regardless of distance.

ZazuPIT wrote:

zuckie13 wrote:

Wayfarer515 wrote:

Isn't a 777 kind of an overkill for a football team? I believe most soccer teams manage to fit in a narrowbody, why such a big bird for them?

NFL Teams travel with 140-180 or so personnel, so it's not a small contingent. 53 active (and not so small) players, plus a few spares, coaches, medical/trainers, security, equipment personnel, video crews, etc....
They also travel with probably 20,000+ pounds or more of equipment.

No way a single narrow body can work fro this.

There was a video on ESPN about this recently. It's amazing the amount of planning and effort it takes to move a LOT of stuff, regardless of distance.

Is there a link to that video?

ctrabs0114 wrote:

ZazuPIT wrote:

zuckie13 wrote:

NFL Teams travel with 140-180 or so personnel, so it's not a small contingent. 53 active (and not so small) players, plus a few spares, coaches, medical/trainers, security, equipment personnel, video crews, etc....
They also travel with probably 20,000+ pounds or more of equipment.

No way a single narrow body can work fro this.

There was a video on ESPN about this recently. It's amazing the amount of planning and effort it takes to move a LOT of stuff, regardless of distance.

Is there a link to that video?

I looked for it but can't find it, sorry.

ctrabs0114 wrote:

ZazuPIT wrote:

zuckie13 wrote:

NFL Teams travel with 140-180 or so personnel, so it's not a small contingent. 53 active (and not so small) players, plus a few spares, coaches, medical/trainers, security, equipment personnel, video crews, etc....
They also travel with probably 20,000+ pounds or more of equipment.

No way a single narrow body can work fro this.

There was a video on ESPN about this recently. It's amazing the amount of planning and effort it takes to move a LOT of stuff, regardless of distance.

Is there a link to that video?

it's not a video, but here's an ESPN article about the Lions equipment guys. They move all their gear by truck: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/283 ... -road-game

Interesting video on the logistical challenges of the NFL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ_LUFBSoqM

zuckie13 wrote:

Wayfarer515 wrote:

Isn't a 777 kind of an overkill for a football team? I believe most soccer teams manage to fit in a narrowbody, why such a big bird for them?

NFL Teams travel with 140-180 or so personnel, so it's not a small contingent. 53 active (and not so small) players, plus a few spares, coaches, medical/trainers, security, equipment personnel, video crews, etc....
They also travel with probably 20,000+ pounds or more of equipment.

No way a single narrow body can work fro this.

FWIW, some NFL teams charter DL 752s.

They were not STRANDED... they were delayed! You AA haters are amazing how you twist a post ...

axiom wrote:

zuckie13 wrote:

Wayfarer515 wrote:

Isn't a 777 kind of an overkill for a football team? I believe most soccer teams manage to fit in a narrowbody, why such a big bird for them?

NFL Teams travel with 140-180 or so personnel, so it's not a small contingent. 53 active (and not so small) players, plus a few spares, coaches, medical/trainers, security, equipment personnel, video crews, etc....
They also travel with probably 20,000+ pounds or more of equipment.

No way a single narrow body can work fro this.

FWIW, some NFL teams charter DL 752s.

True and most of the Delta teams will take a 752 at some point in the season for a short trip. The Cowboys regular plane for years at AA was a 752 and they have only fairly recently began using widebodies for all flights. US use to fly the Panthers and the Steelers most weekends on a single 321.

The Saints on United often use a 753 for short and medium trips, the 764 for longer or if available. Availability is the key now, just not many 763s around like there used to be. Back when Delta ruled the NFL charter market nearly every single team used a 763, just cant spare them like they used to.

Saints
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2541/history

Revelation wrote:

71Zulu wrote:

The Saints on United often use a 753 for short and medium trips, the 764 for longer or if available. Availability is the key now, just not many 763s around like there used to be. Back when Delta ruled the NFL charter market nearly every single team used a 763, just cant spare them like they used to.

Easy fix, just buy yourself two 763s!



Ref: https://www.reddit.com/r/Patriots/comme ... s_awesome/

When you have a problem of where to paint the next super bowl trophy on your B763 you know you have made it! Now, I am not a real Patriots fan or a Patriots hater. But this team with Belichick/Brady has done something over the last 18 years no other team has ever done. Guess they deserve their own 763/s.