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Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:07 am

DL2423. Happened about 5:40PM local time. RIP and prayers to her family.
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:25 am

Very sad story. I really feel for the family and crew. I can’t imagine what they all must be going through.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:24 pm

That's awful. Probably some undiagnosed heart defect
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:30 pm

AAlaxfan wrote:
DL2423. Happened about 5:40PM local time. RIP and prayers to her family.
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019/12 ... x-airport/

That link didn't work for me, but I googled it and came up with the story on the LA Times website. Very sad indeed. Prayers to her family, the flight crew, and the EMTs who tried saving her life. Like these EMTs, I have done CPR on another person, and it too did not go well. I certainly feel for them. :(
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:42 pm

Looks like the flight did actually take off only to immediately return to LAX.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KLAX/KSEA


The revised DL 2423 didn't take off to SEA until midnight, quite a lengthy delay. I imagine the original aircraft had to be examined by a forensic team unless the unfortunate individual had an obvious cause of death, ie. seizure history and a witnessed seizure etc.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:15 pm

Very sad! Most 10 year olds don't just go into cardiac arrest. She may have been a chronically ill child with many comorbidities. May she RIP.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:38 pm

Very sorry to hear about this, may she rest in peace.


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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:17 pm

I saw the flight land while taxiing for departure. Sobering to know the outcome of the emergency.

RobertS975 wrote:
Looks like the flight did actually take off only to immediately return to LAX.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KLAX/KSEA


The revised DL 2423 didn't take off to SEA until midnight, quite a lengthy delay. I imagine the original aircraft had to be examined by a forensic team unless the unfortunate individual had an obvious cause of death, ie. seizure history and a witnessed seizure etc.


Perhaps a recrew as well after such a traumatic event. I would guess that at the very least the flight attendants would have been asked if they wanted to continue or not, since they had direct contact with the child and family and had to manage the situation.
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Sun Dec 29, 2019 3:58 am

Alias1024 wrote:
I saw the flight land while taxiing for departure. Sobering to know the outcome of the emergency.

RobertS975 wrote:
Looks like the flight did actually take off only to immediately return to LAX.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KLAX/KSEA


The revised DL 2423 didn't take off to SEA until midnight, quite a lengthy delay. I imagine the original aircraft had to be examined by a forensic team unless the unfortunate individual had an obvious cause of death, ie. seizure history and a witnessed seizure etc.


Perhaps a recrew as well after such a traumatic event. I would guess that at the very least the flight attendants would have been asked if they wanted to continue or not, since they had direct contact with the child and family and had to manage the situation.


I'm assuming that since the link said passengers were being re accommodated, that the flight ended up being canceled all together.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:03 am

In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.

GatorClark wrote:
Alias1024 wrote:
I saw the flight land while taxiing for departure. Sobering to know the outcome of the emergency.

RobertS975 wrote:
Looks like the flight did actually take off only to immediately return to LAX.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL ... /KLAX/KSEA


The revised DL 2423 didn't take off to SEA until midnight, quite a lengthy delay. I imagine the original aircraft had to be examined by a forensic team unless the unfortunate individual had an obvious cause of death, ie. seizure history and a witnessed seizure etc.


Perhaps a recrew as well after such a traumatic event. I would guess that at the very least the flight attendants would have been asked if they wanted to continue or not, since they had direct contact with the child and family and had to manage the situation.


I'm assuming that since the link said passengers were being re accommodated, that the flight ended up being canceled all together.


It wasn't flight was recrewed and departed very late.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:11 am

Very sad. Personally, the medical reasons should be kept private. I have two healthy children one a year older, one a year younger than this child. A parent's nightmare.

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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:17 am

My thoughts are with everyone involved, especially the family.
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:00 am

The girl is from West Vancouver, British Columbia what was released by the coroner per this article:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british- ... -1.5409910
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:29 pm

lightsaber wrote:
A parent's nightmare.


No doubt. I’m sure every parent reading this thread feels the same way.
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 2:33 pm

777Mech wrote:
In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.

GatorClark wrote:
Alias1024 wrote:
I saw the flight land while taxiing for departure. Sobering to know the outcome of the emergency.



Perhaps a recrew as well after such a traumatic event. I would guess that at the very least the flight attendants would have been asked if they wanted to continue or not, since they had direct contact with the child and family and had to manage the situation.


I'm assuming that since the link said passengers were being re accommodated, that the flight ended up being canceled all together.


It wasn't flight was recrewed and departed very late.


Ah ok. I stand corrected.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:18 pm

In our wider social circle we had two young males, one quite young the other a close friend, die unexpectedly. It is, obviously, devastating, even almost 50 years later. Families did get some questions answered and even a little comfort knowing likely what had happened. Research and technology was just then giving some understanding of what happens. Mayo clinic offers a current review of this. To some degree it cannot be prevented, although that is not always true.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20047571
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:37 pm

777Mech wrote:
In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.


Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:41 pm

frmrCapCadet wrote:
In our wider social circle we had two young males, one quite young the other a close friend, die unexpectedly. It is, obviously, devastating, even almost 50 years later. Families did get some questions answered and even a little comfort knowing likely what had happened. Research and technology was just then giving some understanding of what happens. Mayo clinic offers a current review of this. To some degree it cannot be prevented, although that is not always true.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-con ... t-20047571


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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:58 pm

The gist of most of the studies I have read is not over treating, limiting activity of young people, medically labeling people as disabled, invasive surgeries, requiring young people to follow unnecessary limitations . No competitive or impact sports. Research goals are to identify the young people most at risk, and most likely to benefit with the least impact on them living their lives. Young people from pre-adolescence (and sometimes earlier) have the right to hear and act on medical information.
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:01 pm

Thibault973 wrote:
777Mech wrote:
In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.


Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.

Well from what Delta most likely had on hand, their choices were, the Porsche, a 2 seater work truck, or a crew van, I think given those options it was the best choice.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:02 pm

Thibault973 wrote:
777Mech wrote:
In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.


Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.


Uhh okay, you try to waiting for an Uber at LAX.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:21 pm

Thibault973 wrote:
777Mech wrote:
In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.


Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.


You make it sound like a red coat dropped off some free tickets to the Delta Lounge once the jetbridge was reconnected. The point here is “the thought”. DL not only took care of accommodations but also swiftly got them to private transportation. I mean DL could have just let them walk through the circus of terminal 3 through that long underground walkway to go catch a bus to the taxi lot. That to me sounds much more “tacky”. Bravo DL!
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 4:29 pm

Thibault973 wrote:
777Mech wrote:
In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.


Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.


Would you rather DL just send them to the front curb at LAX to fend for a public shuttle and deal with their bags while they're going through the most difficult time of their life?
Take your head out of your *ss. It's the compassionate thing to do so they have as much privacy as possible.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:27 pm

hereandthere41 wrote:
Thibault973 wrote:
777Mech wrote:
In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.


Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.


Would you rather DL just send them to the front curb at LAX to fend for a public shuttle and deal with their bags while they're going through the most difficult time of their life?
Take your head out of your *ss. It's the compassionate thing to do so they have as much privacy as possible.


We deeply regret and are saddened that you are having to deal with such a tragic, stressful and hectic ordeal, but Thibualt973 says deal with it. Now, go walk thru the clusterf*** of T3 and out to the curb and wait for your hotel shuttle. Someone might deliver your bags in 3 days.........


You're kidding, right?
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Tue Dec 31, 2019 5:37 pm

SocalApproach wrote:
Thibault973 wrote:
777Mech wrote:
In a great gesture, Delta provided the family grief counselors, accommodations, food and Porsche service to their hotel at LAX.


Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.


You make it sound like a red coat dropped off some free tickets to the Delta Lounge once the jetbridge was reconnected. The point here is “the thought”. DL not only took care of accommodations but also swiftly got them to private transportation. I mean DL could have just let them walk through the circus of terminal 3 through that long underground walkway to go catch a bus to the taxi lot. That to me sounds much more “tacky”. Bravo DL!


What’s tacky to me, sorry if I didn’t make myself clear, is mentioning that the car provided was a Porsche. « Car service » would have been better in my books. But Maybe that’s just me.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Wed Jan 01, 2020 3:27 am

Thibault973 wrote:
SocalApproach wrote:
Thibault973 wrote:

Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.


You make it sound like a red coat dropped off some free tickets to the Delta Lounge once the jetbridge was reconnected. The point here is “the thought”. DL not only took care of accommodations but also swiftly got them to private transportation. I mean DL could have just let them walk through the circus of terminal 3 through that long underground walkway to go catch a bus to the taxi lot. That to me sounds much more “tacky”. Bravo DL!


What’s tacky to me, sorry if I didn’t make myself clear, is mentioning that the car provided was a Porsche. « Car service » would have been better in my books. But Maybe that’s just me.

I can definitely agree with that sentiment. Makes a lot more sense when said like that.
I apologize for jumping on you as well. Re-reading it with the context you added, I get what you were originally trying to say.
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:35 am

I think we should remember that Delta’s transport service is branded. Airline staff are intrinsically brand conscious. By mentioning Porsche, the airline is letting the public know that Delta did everything they could to assist this family in their time of great loss. If people thought Delta used Uber or called them a cab, they would be asking why Delta didn’t do something better for the family. Terrible situation all around.
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:38 pm

Thibault973 wrote:
SocalApproach wrote:
Thibault973 wrote:

Who the he** cares for a Porsche service when you just lost a child tho. Sounds tacky to me.


You make it sound like a red coat dropped off some free tickets to the Delta Lounge once the jetbridge was reconnected. The point here is “the thought”. DL not only took care of accommodations but also swiftly got them to private transportation. I mean DL could have just let them walk through the circus of terminal 3 through that long underground walkway to go catch a bus to the taxi lot. That to me sounds much more “tacky”. Bravo DL!


What’s tacky to me, sorry if I didn’t make myself clear, is mentioning that the car provided was a Porsche. « Car service » would have been better in my books. But Maybe that’s just me.


Delta didn't go to the media saying what they did, I just had first hand knowledge of the steps they took to take care of the family, including letting HVCs walk to their connecting gate and instead letting this family ride in their branded luxury car service, and they didn't even have to do this.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Wed Jan 01, 2020 8:17 pm

The point discussing what happens post-landing is self promotion. All airlines have response teams to deal with these type of situations and family members are almost always receive similar treatment should they do desire.

I think that talking about how great DL did in this situation insults the family and memory of the child.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:32 pm

sxf24 wrote:
I think that talking about how great DL did in this situation insults the family and memory of the child.


Are you aware what website this is? A great deal of conversation in the forums consists of critiquing “X” airline on now they handled a particular situation.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:41 pm

How horrible. In 15 years of being a pediatrician, I've never figured out what the "right" thing is to say to a family who just lost a child. There is no right thing to say. I'm glad that the people at DL were able to do everything in their power to not add insult to injury by getting them out of there quickly and privately. This story cuts even deeper because I am a new father. I can't imagine outliving my son.

As for speculation on the cause of death, I will not participate and I'd suggest that nobody else should, either.
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:39 am

sxf24 wrote:
The point discussing what happens post-landing is self promotion. All airlines have response teams to deal with these type of situations and family members are almost always receive similar treatment should they do desire.

I think that talking about how great DL did in this situation insults the family and memory of the child.


So we can only report negative press? Good grief.
 
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Re: Minor dies on DL flight LAX-SEA

Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:37 am

777Mech wrote:
sxf24 wrote:
The point discussing what happens post-landing is self promotion. All airlines have response teams to deal with these type of situations and family members are almost always receive similar treatment should they do desire.

I think that talking about how great DL did in this situation insults the family and memory of the child.


So we can only report negative press? Good grief.


I’m not sure how you drew that conclusion, though this thread sure started with a negative topic.

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