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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:49 am

YIMBY wrote:
ilari wrote:
SK A330-300 wrote:
When did they end OUL?

I think they have tried ARN-OUL at least three times over the last 10-15 years and it never lasted long.


Not profitable/enough passengers. They only flew 3 or 4 weekly when both Norwegian and Finnair up to 12 daily, so they couldn't compete.

EDIT: Oh, you said when, not why. Two weeks ago.


If it is only 3 times a week and evidently non-peak hours when the plane has nothing else to do, they lose all business travellers from the beginning and get only price sensitive tourists. Did it even match the connecting flights?
For a semi-domestic route twice a day is the minimum to make sense.


Agree. AY has better connectivity to Europe all day long so even if there were any reasonable connections, OUL business travelers would prefer HEL.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:13 pm

AY increases HEL—LHR from 6 to 7 daily flights.

The timetable:

AY1347 HEL 1715-1820 LHR
AY1348 LHR 2030-0120+1 HEL


SeanM1997

Great to see Finnair expanding in the UK once again! I asseme the recent outsourcing of BCN service made these additions to LHR and CDG possible. The slots are leased from Etihad Airways.
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:13 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
AY increases HEL—LHR from 6 to 7 daily flights.

The timetable:

AY1347 HEL 1715-1820 LHR
AY1348 LHR 2030-0120+1 HEL


SeanM1997

Great to see Finnair expanding in the UK once again! I asseme the recent outsourcing of BCN service made these additions to LHR and CDG possible. The slots are leased from Etihad Airways.


Brave movement when Brexit is around the corner.

Wouldn't it make more sense to open a route to Stansted, serving north London and Cambridgeshire or Gatwick, also a bit different catchment area, particularly to lure the English to Japan? Would also expect Birmingham some day. Do they have hardware to LCY?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:45 am

YIMBY wrote:
Do they have hardware to LCY?

The E-190's might be able to do the flights. With some payload restrictions. But Norra don't have qualified captains to fly the landing and take off.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:55 am

MareBorealis wrote:
The scheduled flight time HEL-BOO is 2h 35min, that's a long time on ATR-72, I haven't tried the new seats myself yet though. Probably their longest ATR flight ever?

In the past (about twenty years ago?) Finnair used the ATR-72 between Helsinki and Murmansk. At 629 miles that flight was 50 miles longer than the 579 miles between Helsinki and Bodø.

For comparison I once travelled between Vilnius and Amsterdam on a DHC-8 400 of Air Baltic. The 859 mile flight took 2 hours and 45 minutes. The experience wasn't bad. There are longer flights on propellor planes.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 2:30 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
AY increases HEL—LHR from 6 to 7 daily flights.

The timetable:

AY1347 HEL 1715-1820 LHR
AY1348 LHR 2030-0120+1 HEL


SeanM1997

Great to see Finnair expanding in the UK once again! I asseme the recent outsourcing of BCN service made these additions to LHR and CDG possible. The slots are leased from Etihad Airways.


Could it be the slot-sitter, just with special under the curtain agreement with Etihad? (they have too many slots they need in LHR after Jet Airways demise, and Air Serbia used to sit the slots before).

Finnair has AY 1337, which departs HEL at 16:00 and this is operated by A333. The next flight is AY 1341 operated by A320, which departs HEL at 17:00. Now Finnair will send another A319 to LHR 15 minutes later. Additional capacity without additional connectivity.

On return, it is even worse. AY 1338 on A333 departs LHR at 18:10 and arrives in HEL at 23:00 which perfectly serves all Asian connections departing HEL at 23:55. And then, there will be two more flights for point-to-point traffic only with late arrivals to HEL: AY1342 departing 19:30 and landing at 00:30 and if you think this one is too late, there is AY1348, arriving at HEL at 01:20 am.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:53 am

More Widerøe-Finnair codeshare

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... -jan-2020/

Finnair operated by Widerøe
Bergen – Alesund
Bergen – Aberdeen
Bergen – Kristiansand
Bergen – Oslo Sandefjord
Oslo – Bronnoysund
Trondheim – Kristiansand
Trondheim – Oslo Sandefjord
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:26 pm

Finnair S20 Europe service increase

Helsinki – Barcelona eff 29MAR20 Increase from 2 to 3 daily
Helsinki – Copenhagen eff 29MAR20 Increase from 5 to 6 daily
Helsinki – London Heathrow eff 29MAR20 Increase from 6 to 7 daily
Helsinki – Rome eff 29MAR20 Increase from 2 to 3 daily (3rd daily in S19 was only operated on weekends)
Helsinki – Stockholm Arlanda eff 29MAR20 Increase from 8 to 9 daily
Helsinki – Vienna eff 29MAR20 Increase from 2 to 3 daily

Operational frequency varies during selected periods.

Previously reported changes:
Helsinki – Hamburg eff 29MAR20 Increase from 2 to 3 daily
Helsinki – Paris CDG eff 29MAR20 Increase from 5 to 6 daily


Routesonline

So happy to see AY expanding in Europe. I wonder though, where does Finnair get this capacity from?
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:59 pm

Finnair is cancelling all flights to NKG and PKX until 2020-03-29 due to the virus outbreak in China.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:31 am

CPH and HEL are not so apart when it comes to passenger numbers though I have a feeling foreign airlines are stronger in CPH than they are in HEL. When it comes to frequencies from both airports to major European markets, who has a greater presence (seats, frequencies...) AY from HEL or SK from CPH? Seems like AY is really upping their game these days. They could also be helped by the slow collapse of ARN.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:38 am

I was transiting through HEL from international flight to domestic flight on Sunday. The brand new non-schengen zone was beautiful, but immigration line was so long. If you arrived during peak hours and have a short connection, this would be a nightmare. I would have expected the new facilities to be more efficient and faster than the old one, but it was worst.Why can they have separate counters for transit passengers?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:38 am

Blerg wrote:
CPH and HEL are not so apart when it comes to passenger numbers though I have a feeling foreign airlines are stronger in CPH than they are in HEL. When it comes to frequencies from both airports to major European markets, who has a greater presence (seats, frequencies...) AY from HEL or SK from CPH? Seems like AY is really upping their game these days. They could also be helped by the slow collapse of ARN.


With regards to Intercontinental traffic they are about the same size, with HEL for the first time was marginally bigger than CPH in 2019. However, looking at European traffic, CPH is much larger
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:40 am

Someone83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
CPH and HEL are not so apart when it comes to passenger numbers though I have a feeling foreign airlines are stronger in CPH than they are in HEL. When it comes to frequencies from both airports to major European markets, who has a greater presence (seats, frequencies...) AY from HEL or SK from CPH? Seems like AY is really upping their game these days. They could also be helped by the slow collapse of ARN.


With regards to Intercontinental traffic they are about the same size, with HEL for the first time was marginally bigger than CPH in 2019. However, looking at European traffic, CPH is much larger


But what about SK in CPH vs AY in HEL? That is if we exclude other carriers.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:56 am

YIMBY wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
AY increases HEL—LHR from 6 to 7 daily flights.

The timetable:

AY1347 HEL 1715-1820 LHR
AY1348 LHR 2030-0120+1 HEL


SeanM1997

Great to see Finnair expanding in the UK once again! I asseme the recent outsourcing of BCN service made these additions to LHR and CDG possible. The slots are leased from Etihad Airways.


Brave movement when Brexit is around the corner.

Wouldn't it make more sense to open a route to Stansted, serving north London and Cambridgeshire or Gatwick, also a bit different catchment area, particularly to lure the English to Japan? Would also expect Birmingham some day. Do they have hardware to LCY?


At least this schedule would not connect LGW or STN fligths to anywhere...

I for one welcome this "red eye" departure. You can have a proper long working day in London and return the same day.

LCY would be a welcome addition...
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 7:57 am

teme82 wrote:
YIMBY wrote:
Do they have hardware to LCY?

The E-190's might be able to do the flights. With some payload restrictions. But Norra don't have qualified captains to fly the landing and take off.


Would those qualifications be too difficult to obtain ?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:54 am

kruiseri wrote:
teme82 wrote:
YIMBY wrote:
Do they have hardware to LCY?

The E-190's might be able to do the flights. With some payload restrictions. But Norra don't have qualified captains to fly the landing and take off.


Would those qualifications be too difficult to obtain ?

No just more training for the captains.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:21 am

kruiseri wrote:
teme82 wrote:
YIMBY wrote:
Do they have hardware to LCY?

The E-190's might be able to do the flights. With some payload restrictions. But Norra don't have qualified captains to fly the landing and take off.


Would those qualifications be too difficult to obtain ?


As teme82 said, it shouldn't be too difficult. LOT managed to train its pilots and get more E190s to launch LCY in a reasonable time frame.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 10:32 am

An E190 on LCY-HEL, wouldn't this be severe weight restricted?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:09 pm

Someone83 wrote:
An E190 on LCY-HEL, wouldn't this be severe weight restricted?


LOT operate to VNO which isn't much shorter. BA also operate to the Greek Islands which are much further. They also operated LCY-KEF which is longer. So there must be a way to make it work.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:55 pm

Nothing official yet, but seems like SAS just zeroed out all bookings to China for February
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:33 am

Someone83 wrote:
Nothing official yet, but seems like SAS just zeroed out all bookings to China for February

Finnair has stopped taking booking to flights to mainland China.
Flying high and low
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:06 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Nothing official yet, but seems like SAS just zeroed out all bookings to China for February


And I just heard on the news that they now suspend all flights to mainland China.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:16 pm

Bostrom wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
Nothing official yet, but seems like SAS just zeroed out all bookings to China for February


And I just heard on the news that they now suspend all flights to mainland China.

It's official:
https://www.sas.dk/traffic-information/message/
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:54 am

YLE says Sichuan Airlines suspends Chengdu–Helsinki–Copenhagen route until the end of March 2020. Not surprising at all.
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:26 am

Are Juneyao still planning to go ahead with their routes from Helsinki to Reykjavik, Dublin and Manchester in the spring or will these perhaps be postponed ?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:55 am

davidjohnson6 wrote:
Are Juneyao still planning to go ahead with their routes from Helsinki to Reykjavik, Dublin and Manchester in the spring or will these perhaps be postponed ?

Nothing has been mentioned about it so far. Juneyao still sells flights to the aforementioned destinations. For now, airlines have suspended flights to Mainland China until the end of March and DUB/MAN/KEF begin on 29-31 March. Let's see how the situation develops...
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:14 am

SAS is starting ARN-WAW with up to 2x daily from May 1. 2x daily Mon-Fri and 1x daily Sun

Not sure if it is to be operated by CRJ-900 or A320neo?

https://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-opens-n ... stockholm/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:15 am

SAS opens new route to Warsaw from Stockholm. The new route will operate twice daily on weekdays, with a peak timetable suitable for business travelers, as well as once on Sundays.
So SAS, Norwegian, Lot, Wizzair and Ryanair competing.

https://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-opens-n ... stockholm/
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:38 am

Someone83 wrote:
SAS is starting ARN-WAW with up to 2x daily from May 1. 2x daily Mon-Fri and 1x daily Sun

Not sure if it is to be operated by CRJ-900 or A320neo?

https://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-opens-n ... stockholm/

I've found flights on both the CRJ's and A320Neo so it looks like it'll be a mix. The rest are 737-700s but they are usually used as a "dummy"
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:21 pm

SASViking wrote:
The rest are 737-700s but they are usually used as a "dummy"


Yes, AFAIK most or all 737s should be gone from the ARN base by May 2020
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 12:42 pm

SASViking wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
SAS is starting ARN-WAW with up to 2x daily from May 1. 2x daily Mon-Fri and 1x daily Sun

Not sure if it is to be operated by CRJ-900 or A320neo?

https://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-opens-n ... stockholm/

I've found flights on both the CRJ's and A320Neo so it looks like it'll be a mix. The rest are 737-700s but they are usually used as a "dummy"


It will be operated mainly by 737-700 before swedish midsummer, with occational CRJ's. After the summer holidays the 737 is replaced by NEO.
Roundtrips by equipment:
737: 116
NEO: 72
CRJ: 18
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:13 pm

'Travelers flying with SAS can voluntarily choose to buy biofuel and so help reduce climate-affecting CO2 emissions by up to 80 percent.'

I don't understand this, does SK already use biofuel on this route or do people pay for it so that it can be used elsewhere? If SK really cared about the environment then they wouldn't have launched this route since LO is already there. ;)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:48 pm

Blerg wrote:
'Travelers flying with SAS can voluntarily choose to buy biofuel and so help reduce climate-affecting CO2 emissions by up to 80 percent.'

I don't understand this, does SK already use biofuel on this route or do people pay for it so that it can be used elsewhere? If SK really cared about the environment then they wouldn't have launched this route since LO is already there. ;)


Well SAS doesn't operate this route (yet), so how could they use biofuel on it 8-)
The way biofuel in SAS works, is that the customer buys X amount, and SAS mixes in that amount in the total fuel consumption. SAS doesn't make any money on these purchases, as this goes directly to the fueling companies. All aircraft versions are potentially not "biofuel approved".
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:19 am

Looks like ET is increasing ADD-ARN-OSL to daily from June 25th
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:19 pm

The second A350 for SAS is on it's delivery flight from TLS to CPH as SK9154
https://fr24.com/SAS9154/23c97e84
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:13 pm

Surprisingly, Eurostat updated the route statistics already yesterday even though they usually update them in June/July. Good thing! Here are the top intercontinental routes out of CPH and HEL in 2019 and their load factors. Any "major" changes did not occur but a few notable things are DOH having taken over the 1st place at CPH and HKG as a new entrant.

HELSINKI
Airport - PAX (change) - PLF

1. NRT - 438,270 (+3.0%) - 87.6%
2. BKK - 359,914 (+0.7%) - 89.7%
3. HKG - 351,921 (+26.3%) - 82.7%
4. PVG - 244,101 (+29.6%) - 80.3%
5. DOH - 233,846 (+12.0%) - 67.4%
6. KIX - 223,869 (+38.4%) - 84.7%
7. ICN - 214,982 (-0.9%) - 88.8%
8. SIN - 196,941 (-0.3%) - 86.3%
9. JFK - 180,126 (+2.9%) - 88.0%
10. PEK - 177,432 (-4.9%) - 79.4%
11. NGO - 145,904 (+5.0%) - 77.0%
12. DXB - 133,253 (+12.5%) - 75.3%
13. DEL - 131,907 (+10.9%) - 87.9%
14. ORD - 101,975 (+12.6%) - 85.2%


COPENHAGEN
Airport - PAX (change) - PLF

1. DOH - 400,021 (+26.7%) - 68.2%
2. NYC - 360,078 (-6.8%) - 86.6%
3. DXB - 330,579 (-6.3%) - 76.1%
4. BKK - 261,593 (-2.8%) - 81.6%
5. PEK - 189,228 (+10.8%) - 72.2%
6. YYZ - 169,585 (+3.9%) - 82.7%
7. SFO - 147,640 (-2.5%) - 85.4%
8. ORD - 141,641 (+1.2%) - 78.4%
9. NRT - 140,842 (-4.2%) - 86.1%
10. IAD - 137,490 (+1.0%) - 76.2%
11. PVG - 128,995 (-8.8%) - 79.2%
12. SIN - 124,535 (+3.6%) - 86.8%
13. HKG - 103,756 (+95.2%) - 85.1%
14. DEL - 82,214 (+8.3%) - 80.4%
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
The word "Quawer" means nothing but it looks great.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:37 pm

Does anyone know when or if there is a way to see when the first SAS A333 will be repainted?
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:48 am

QuawerAir wrote:
Surprisingly, Eurostat updated the route statistics already yesterday even though they usually update them in June/July. Good thing! Here are the top intercontinental routes out of CPH and HEL in 2019 and their load factors. Any "major" changes did not occur but a few notable things are DOH having taken over the 1st place at CPH and HKG as a new entrant.

HELSINKI
Airport - PAX (change) - PLF

1. NRT - 438,270 (+3.0%) - 87.6%
2. BKK - 359,914 (+0.7%) - 89.7%
3. HKG - 351,921 (+26.3%) - 82.7%
4. PVG - 244,101 (+29.6%) - 80.3%
5. DOH - 233,846 (+12.0%) - 67.4%
6. KIX - 223,869 (+38.4%) - 84.7%
7. ICN - 214,982 (-0.9%) - 88.8%
8. SIN - 196,941 (-0.3%) - 86.3%
9. JFK - 180,126 (+2.9%) - 88.0%
10. PEK - 177,432 (-4.9%) - 79.4%
11. NGO - 145,904 (+5.0%) - 77.0%
12. DXB - 133,253 (+12.5%) - 75.3%
13. DEL - 131,907 (+10.9%) - 87.9%
14. ORD - 101,975 (+12.6%) - 85.2%


COPENHAGEN
Airport - PAX (change) - PLF

1. DOH - 400,021 (+26.7%) - 68.2%
2. NYC - 360,078 (-6.8%) - 86.6%
3. DXB - 330,579 (-6.3%) - 76.1%
4. BKK - 261,593 (-2.8%) - 81.6%
5. PEK - 189,228 (+10.8%) - 72.2%
6. YYZ - 169,585 (+3.9%) - 82.7%
7. SFO - 147,640 (-2.5%) - 85.4%
8. ORD - 141,641 (+1.2%) - 78.4%
9. NRT - 140,842 (-4.2%) - 86.1%
10. IAD - 137,490 (+1.0%) - 76.2%
11. PVG - 128,995 (-8.8%) - 79.2%
12. SIN - 124,535 (+3.6%) - 86.8%
13. HKG - 103,756 (+95.2%) - 85.1%
14. DEL - 82,214 (+8.3%) - 80.4%


Interesting how HEL had more intercontinental passengers than CPH, is that a first?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:24 am

Blerg wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
Surprisingly, Eurostat updated the route statistics already yesterday even though they usually update them in June/July. Good thing! Here are the top intercontinental routes out of CPH and HEL in 2019 and their load factors. Any "major" changes did not occur but a few notable things are DOH having taken over the 1st place at CPH and HKG as a new entrant.

HELSINKI
Airport - PAX (change) - PLF

1. NRT - 438,270 (+3.0%) - 87.6%
2. BKK - 359,914 (+0.7%) - 89.7%
3. HKG - 351,921 (+26.3%) - 82.7%
4. PVG - 244,101 (+29.6%) - 80.3%
5. DOH - 233,846 (+12.0%) - 67.4%
6. KIX - 223,869 (+38.4%) - 84.7%
7. ICN - 214,982 (-0.9%) - 88.8%
8. SIN - 196,941 (-0.3%) - 86.3%
9. JFK - 180,126 (+2.9%) - 88.0%
10. PEK - 177,432 (-4.9%) - 79.4%
11. NGO - 145,904 (+5.0%) - 77.0%
12. DXB - 133,253 (+12.5%) - 75.3%
13. DEL - 131,907 (+10.9%) - 87.9%
14. ORD - 101,975 (+12.6%) - 85.2%


COPENHAGEN
Airport - PAX (change) - PLF

1. DOH - 400,021 (+26.7%) - 68.2%
2. NYC - 360,078 (-6.8%) - 86.6%
3. DXB - 330,579 (-6.3%) - 76.1%
4. BKK - 261,593 (-2.8%) - 81.6%
5. PEK - 189,228 (+10.8%) - 72.2%
6. YYZ - 169,585 (+3.9%) - 82.7%
7. SFO - 147,640 (-2.5%) - 85.4%
8. ORD - 141,641 (+1.2%) - 78.4%
9. NRT - 140,842 (-4.2%) - 86.1%
10. IAD - 137,490 (+1.0%) - 76.2%
11. PVG - 128,995 (-8.8%) - 79.2%
12. SIN - 124,535 (+3.6%) - 86.8%
13. HKG - 103,756 (+95.2%) - 85.1%
14. DEL - 82,214 (+8.3%) - 80.4%


Interesting how HEL had more intercontinental passengers than CPH, is that a first?

Yes, for the first time ever ;)
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
The word "Quawer" means nothing but it looks great.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:31 am

HEL January 2020 statistics

Domestic: 273,967 (-0.5%)
International: 1,332,338 (+3.4%)
Total: 1,606,305 (+2.8%)

The year started with small growth, as expected. China, Japan and U.S are "booming" with 54 704 (+57.8%), 54 411 (+24.6%) and 25,059 (+28.6%) passengers respectively. In February and March (and possibly for a couple of months onwards), China will see a rather significant drop in PAX volumes due to Coronavirus. India saw a decline of 24.1% in PAX volumes, presumably as a result of the termination of Goa-route.
ATL, AYT, FRA, FUE, HEL, JFK, LCA, LHR, MUC | AY, BA, DL, FH, LH, LO | A320, A321, A333, 752, 764, 772, 788
The word "Quawer" means nothing but it looks great.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:49 am

seansasLCY wrote:
Someone83 wrote:
An E190 on LCY-HEL, wouldn't this be severe weight restricted?


LOT operate to VNO which isn't much shorter. BA also operate to the Greek Islands which are much further. They also operated LCY-KEF which is longer. So there must be a way to make it work.


BA's flights are weight restricted.
Kind regards, Florens
 
davidjohnson6
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 2:00 am

QuawerAir wrote:
davidjohnson6 wrote:
Are Juneyao still planning to go ahead with their routes from Helsinki to Reykjavik, Dublin and Manchester in the spring or will these perhaps be postponed ?

Nothing has been mentioned about it so far. Juneyao still sells flights to the aforementioned destinations. For now, airlines have suspended flights to Mainland China until the end of March and DUB/MAN/KEF begin on 29-31 March. Let's see how the situation develops...


Start date is now end of April instead of end of March
 
minilinde
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:55 am

SAS A340 wrote:
Does anyone know when or if there is a way to see when the first SAS A333 will be repainted?


LN-RKO is currently undergoing C-check in MLA. Not sure if it will be repainted also. Back in traffic in early March (03MAR).

Otherwise it will be LN-RKM, which will be flown to DUB on 04MAR to be painted. Back in traffic on 17MAR.
Types flown: A318, A319, A320, A321, A32N, A333, A343, A359, A380, AT42, AT72, B717, B733, B735, B736, B737, B738, B739, B744, B748, B763, B772, B773, B788, B789, CRJ2, CRJ9, ERJ190, MD80s/90, RJ100
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:19 am

minilinde wrote:
SAS A340 wrote:
Does anyone know when or if there is a way to see when the first SAS A333 will be repainted?


LN-RKO is currently undergoing C-check in MLA. Not sure if it will be repainted also. Back in traffic in early March (03MAR).

Otherwise it will be LN-RKM, which will be flown to DUB on 04MAR to be painted. Back in traffic on 17MAR.


So far, none of the A330s that has been to MLA has been painted
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:21 pm

A friend of mine was at HEL airport yesterday. She said that there was a fire at Burger King and was surprised the airport did not evacuate. She was also relieved as she made it to her flight. Anyone know the severity of the fire? I’m sure if it had been severe they would have evacuated the airport?
Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:54 pm

Oykie wrote:
A friend of mine was at HEL airport yesterday. She said that there was a fire at Burger King and was surprised the airport did not evacuate. She was also relieved as she made it to her flight. Anyone know the severity of the fire? I’m sure if it had been severe they would have evacuated the airport?


Just to elaborate. The fire alarm went off inside Burger King. Burger King Staff was outside. My source was at O’Leary’s and they had smoke coming into their restaurant and left it quickly because they inhaled smoke. Fire fighters had trouble entering from the jet bridge side. But even with this fire they did not start the evacuation of that part of the airport.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:02 pm

Oykie wrote:
A friend of mine was at HEL airport yesterday. She said that there was a fire at Burger King and was surprised the airport did not evacuate. She was also relieved as she made it to her flight. Anyone know the severity of the fire? I’m sure if it had been severe they would have evacuated the airport?

They actually evacuated the area between gates 27-29 yesterday and passengers were only allowed to pass with the guidance of the police and border guard. The whole situation was over in around 2 hours and the gates are back in normal use now. However, both Burger King and O'Leary's restaurant will stay closed until further notice.
Article in finnish: https://www.finavia.fi/fi/uutishuone/2020/helsinki-vantaan-lentoasemalla-palohalytys-tilanne-ohi
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:06 pm

Air Canada will, one again, expand their CPH-YYZ service for S20.
The daily 400-seater 77W operating from June to mid-September in S19 will be replaced by a daily 450-seater 77W operating from 02JUN to 23OCT (YYZ departure) in S20.
Types flown: A319, A320, A32N, A321, A332, A333, A343, AT43, AT75, AT76, B717, B732, B735, B736, B737, B738, B752, B753, CRJ9, DC10, DH4D, DHC3, E135, E145, E175, E190, E195, F100, MD11, MD81, MD82, MD87, RJ1H
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 9:09 pm

Finnair's latest (#15) A359 arriving tonight from TLS, OH-LWP AY8961 ETA 23:38. The #16 coming in June, total number 19 ordered aircraft.
 
Oykie
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 10:04 pm

HotelWhiskey wrote:
Oykie wrote:
A friend of mine was at HEL airport yesterday. She said that there was a fire at Burger King and was surprised the airport did not evacuate. She was also relieved as she made it to her flight. Anyone know the severity of the fire? I’m sure if it had been severe they would have evacuated the airport?

They actually evacuated the area between gates 27-29 yesterday and passengers were only allowed to pass with the guidance of the police and border guard. The whole situation was over in around 2 hours and the gates are back in normal use now. However, both Burger King and O'Leary's restaurant will stay closed until further notice.
Article in finnish: https://www.finavia.fi/fi/uutishuone/2020/helsinki-vantaan-lentoasemalla-palohalytys-tilanne-ohi


Thanks! I’m glad they eventually evacuated the area. They left as the firefighters worked their way into the scene,
Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas

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