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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:21 am

AA resumed flights to Anchorage today with DFW-ANC on the A321neo. I believe this is the longest A321neo flight in AA’s network?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:24 pm

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How can AA hit 86% Load Factor in JFK if all their flights are limited to 85% capacity for social distancing? :scratchchin:

They will probably justify saying it is based on LID... then your true LF is lower (based on aircraft capacity).
LF numbers don't say much unless you show other metrics: ASM's, RPM's and Total Revenue. Even better if we can compare all of them to the same day last year.


I'm reading that as to mean 86 percent of that 85 percent available capacity for sale as opposed to 86 percent of actual capacity.

Example:

85 percent of 100 = 85
86 percent of 85 = 73

If I'm doing my math correctly, the actual percentage of seats filled is 73 percent of all seats, available for sale or not.


That is called LF based on LID (actual number of seats available for sale) and not on aircraft capacity. Hence the reason for my comment in that quote. I do revenue management for an airline and I am always skeptical when people post Load Factors alone and don't share other airline metrics. Load Factors tell you a very small part of the story.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 03, 2020 6:42 pm

Ishrion wrote:
AA resumed flights to Anchorage today with DFW-ANC on the A321neo. I believe this is the longest A321neo flight in AA’s network?


3,161 statue miles (flight planned, not direct).

Gives some thought about South America out of MIA.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:30 am

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/91164-american-may-use-aadvantage-as-collateral-retire-b777s

Any chance that this article is correct and American will retire their B772s? I realize that Delta is retiring some younger ones, but they have only 18.

number - model - airline - first to last delivery date
47 777-200ER American Airlines 21. Jan. 1999 26. May. 2006
8 777-200ER Delta Air Lines 23. Mar. 1999 15. Mar. 2002
10 777-200LR Delta Air Lines 28. Feb. 2008 24. Mar. 2010
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:25 am

PacoMartin wrote:
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/91164-american-may-use-aadvantage-as-collateral-retire-b777s

Any chance that this article is correct and American will retire their B772s? I realize that Delta is retiring some younger ones, but they have only 18.

number - model - airline - first to last delivery date
47 777-200ER American Airlines 21. Jan. 1999 26. May. 2006
8 777-200ER Delta Air Lines 23. Mar. 1999 15. Mar. 2002
10 777-200LR Delta Air Lines 28. Feb. 2008 24. Mar. 2010


There is an entire thread on the topic >>>

AA conducting fleet review, may retire 777-200ERs
viewtopic.php?t=1446625
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:13 am

Maybe AA should swap their 15 A332s for DL’s 10 772LRs
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:34 am

AA begins to increase domestic capacity for July but delays several international routes including CLT-LHR/MAD, PHL-LHR-MAD/ZRH, ORD-ATH/BCN/DUB, LHR-LAX/RDU, and more.

AA will fly 55% of domestic and 20% of international capacity compared to 2019. They’ve added seats to destinations in Florida and ski/mountain cities.

Today, AA will resume some international routes including:
- DFW-FRA
- DFW-AMS
- DFW-CDG
- MIA-ANU
- MIA-GYE
- MIA-UIO
- ORD-LHR
- JFK-LHR

http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/20 ... PS-DIS-06/
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:51 am

Ishrion wrote:
AA begins to increase domestic capacity for July but delays several international routes including CLT-LHR/MAD, PHL-LHR-MAD/ZRH, ORD-ATH/BCN/DUB, LHR-LAX/RDU, and more.

AA will fly 55% of domestic and 20% of international capacity compared to 2019. They’ve added seats to destinations in Florida and ski/mountain cities.

Today, AA will resume some international routes including:
- DFW-FRA
- DFW-AMS
- DFW-CDG
- MIA-ANU
- MIA-GYE
- MIA-UIO
- ORD-LHR
- JFK-LHR

http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/20 ... PS-DIS-06/


The Points Guy reports 11 Admiral's Clubs are reopening and indicated some TATL routes being added back in August (PHL to LHR, MAD, and ZRH) and JFK to LHR (1 x daily), CDG, and MAD on 8/5. Full list at this link:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/american- ... mountains/
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:00 pm

Cointrin330 wrote:
The Points Guy reports 11 Admiral's Clubs are reopening and indicated some TATL routes being added back in August (PHL to LHR, MAD, and ZRH) and JFK to LHR (1 x daily), CDG, and MAD on 8/5. Full list at this link:


It is all in the AA press release Ishrion quoted, why add another link to a blogger site that thrives on visits and clicks? After all , it is all in AA's press release.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:20 pm

Not sure why AA can't open ACs beyond just the hubs, or at least have an opening schedule announced. For obvious reasons it's impossible to enforce social distancing at the gate areas so why should it be enforced within airline lounges. Now AA could limit admittance to only paid members and OW flying International J/F to limit crowd size.

I also have to wonder who are these people flying to Europe to fill up a widebody a/c.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:09 pm

Miamiairport wrote:
Not sure why AA can't open ACs beyond just the hubs, or at least have an opening schedule announced. For obvious reasons it's impossible to enforce social distancing at the gate areas so why should it be enforced within airline lounges. Now AA could limit admittance to only paid members and OW flying International J/F to limit crowd size.

I also have to wonder who are these people flying to Europe to fill up a widebody a/c.

Most likely because there isn’t sufficient demand to open it beyond the hubs.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 1:24 pm

Ishrion wrote:
AA begins to increase domestic capacity for July but delays several international routes including CLT-LHR/MAD, PHL-LHR-MAD/ZRH, ORD-ATH/BCN/DUB, LHR-LAX/RDU, and more.

AA will fly 55% of domestic and 20% of international capacity compared to 2019. They’ve added seats to destinations in Florida and ski/mountain cities.

Today, AA will resume some international routes including:
- DFW-FRA
- DFW-AMS
- DFW-CDG
- MIA-ANU
- MIA-GYE
- MIA-UIO
- ORD-LHR
- JFK-LHR

http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/20 ... PS-DIS-06/


Some of the best news in a while for AA. DFW will be at 582 departures, or 63.6% of last years peak summer schedule, 43% increase over June. DFW might even be bigger than ATL....

"The recent gains range from business to leisure trips," Raja said. "Corporations are relaxing travel restrictions in states such as Texas and Florida that have eased quarantine requirements"

Not to mention being the largest carrier to Florida again, and bringing back 450 parked jets

https://viewfromthewing.com/american-ai ... -schedule/
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:16 pm

chonetsao wrote:
Cointrin330 wrote:
The Points Guy reports 11 Admiral's Clubs are reopening and indicated some TATL routes being added back in August (PHL to LHR, MAD, and ZRH) and JFK to LHR (1 x daily), CDG, and MAD on 8/5. Full list at this link:


It is all in the AA press release Ishrion quoted, why add another link to a blogger site that thrives on visits and clicks? After all , it is all in AA's press release.


Just to annoy you. :)
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:04 pm

According to Philadelphia Business Journal it looks like AA will make slight changes to the PHL cargo network. Dropping ZRH and adding 2x MXP and FRA. Regularly scheduled SJU pax flights continue, likely eliminating the need for adhoc cargo flights.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:05 pm

Here are some interesting stats. Below are numbers of total job losses between April 19 and April 20 by metro area. The percentage represents the percent of jobs lost of the total in that time frame. So the 13.2% next to Charlotte means Greater Charlotte lost 13.2% of the jobs it had in April 2019 between then and April 2020:

-164,000 Phoenix -7.6%
-283,000 Dallas -7.6%
-301,000 Washington -9.0%
-610,900 Chicago -12.9%
-358,100 Miami -13.1%
-162,200 Charlotte -13.2%
-916,200 Los Angeles -14.7%
-457,400 Philadelphia -15.4%
-1,949,600 New York -19.6%

Im sure the numbers in CA and NY have a great deal to do with their shutdowns and how hard NYC was hit by COVID.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:23 pm

Any numbers on how many flights will be running through CLT in July?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:30 pm

CIDFlyer wrote:
Any numbers on how many flights will be running through CLT in July?


"In Charlotte, starting July 7, American will have 489 daily departures, down from 700 daily departures a year earlier. The number is up from 321 daily departures in June"

"In Charlotte, American will go to seven daily banks in July, up from four in June"
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:35 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
CIDFlyer wrote:
Any numbers on how many flights will be running through CLT in July?


"In Charlotte, starting July 7, American will have 489 daily departures, down from 700 daily departures a year earlier. The number is up from 321 daily departures in June"

"In Charlotte, American will go to seven daily banks in July, up from four in June"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/20 ... a52232c4b1


Wow, 52.3% increase in a month. Impressive.

Also in the Forbes article:

However, in July American will restart Dallas to Amsterdam, Paris and Frankfurt and Miami to Guayaquil and Quito, while boosting Chicago-London Heathrow and JFK-London Heathrow.


Nah.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 05, 2020 8:25 pm

AA was up 565% from their April low yesterday, still down 80% yoy.
https://twitter.com/RossFeinstein/statu ... 74404?s=20

JonNYC is saying these are the LFs today:
DFW 69%
ORD 65%
CLT 70%
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1268952675250552834%

Inching closer to ideal load factor territory...
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:03 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
CIDFlyer wrote:
Any numbers on how many flights will be running through CLT in July?


"In Charlotte, starting July 7, American will have 489 daily departures, down from 700 daily departures a year earlier. The number is up from 321 daily departures in June"

"In Charlotte, American will go to seven daily banks in July, up from four in June"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/20 ... a52232c4b1


Wow, 52.3% increase in a month. Impressive.

Also in the Forbes article:

However, in July American will restart Dallas to Amsterdam, Paris and Frankfurt and Miami to Guayaquil and Quito, while boosting Chicago-London Heathrow and JFK-London Heathrow.


Nah.


These are pretty impressive growth numbers in terms of flight adds. who knows about passengers to fly, but they seem to be bouncing back faster than i would have thought
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:09 pm

usairways85 wrote:
According to Philadelphia Business Journal it looks like AA will make slight changes to the PHL cargo network. Dropping ZRH and adding 2x MXP and FRA. Regularly scheduled SJU pax flights continue, likely eliminating the need for adhoc cargo flights.


Of all the cargo routes AA is operating, I believe PHL-FRA/MXP are the only ones that weren’t passenger routes pre-COVID? Aside from the ICN stopovers into China of course.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:30 pm

HardeesBiscuit wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:

"In Charlotte, starting July 7, American will have 489 daily departures, down from 700 daily departures a year earlier. The number is up from 321 daily departures in June"

"In Charlotte, American will go to seven daily banks in July, up from four in June"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed/20 ... a52232c4b1


Wow, 52.3% increase in a month. Impressive.

Also in the Forbes article:

However, in July American will restart Dallas to Amsterdam, Paris and Frankfurt and Miami to Guayaquil and Quito, while boosting Chicago-London Heathrow and JFK-London Heathrow.


Nah.


These are pretty impressive growth numbers in terms of flight adds. who knows about passengers to fly, but they seem to be bouncing back faster than i would have thought


Vasu Raja is saying Texas & Florida bookings are "only" down 40% at this point
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:28 am

Good for AA and some positive news. I know that if I was looking to go anywhere they would be my first choice. Currently at my hometown Cedar Rapids AA runs 6 flights a day 2 to CLT 2 to DFW and 2 to ORD (except Tuesday and Saturday). This is compared to 1 a day from Delta to MSP and 2 a day to ORD on UA.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:03 am

AA is gaining a lot of new customers because of the variety and much larger number of options they are providing at the moment all over the country compared to Delta and United. Hopefully some of these people stick around.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:56 am

Nice to see AA is using A321Neos between LAX and Hawaii.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:45 pm

The additional bank of flights out of CLT will be very welcomed.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 3:04 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
AA was up 565% from their April low yesterday, still down 80% yoy.
https://twitter.com/RossFeinstein/statu ... 74404?s=20

JonNYC is saying these are the LFs today:
DFW 69%
ORD 65%
CLT 70%
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1268952675250552834%

Inching closer to ideal load factor territory...


Is that a percentage of available seats or is that a percentage of the whole aircraft?
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:27 pm

brilondon wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
AA was up 565% from their April low yesterday, still down 80% yoy.
https://twitter.com/RossFeinstein/statu ... 74404?s=20

JonNYC is saying these are the LFs today:
DFW 69%
ORD 65%
CLT 70%
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1268952675250552834%

Inching closer to ideal load factor territory...


Is that a percentage of available seats or is that a percentage of the whole aircraft?


Whole aircraft I believe
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 06, 2020 7:08 pm

brilondon wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
AA was up 565% from their April low yesterday, still down 80% yoy.
https://twitter.com/RossFeinstein/statu ... 74404?s=20

JonNYC is saying these are the LFs today:
DFW 69%
ORD 65%
CLT 70%
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1268952675250552834%

Inching closer to ideal load factor territory...


Is that a percentage of available seats or is that a percentage of the whole aircraft?


Its the whole aircraft.
From what I've noticed out of DFW, many flights are very close to or at the load factor cap (around 85%), with standbys often getting left behind if they're not lucky enough for their A319 flight to get upgraded to an A321.
What seems to be dragging down the average from being higher are flights to the east coast cities other than NYC, mainly BOS/PHL/DC area - flights to those cities have still been quite light. NYC-area flights have been pretty full due to there being so few available flights into/out of those airports.
Would be curious to see if somebody gets info like what's posted RE: DFW/ORD/CLT on the PHL/DCA loads - I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the 50's or lower.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:21 am

Would be curious to see if somebody gets info like what's posted RE: DFW/ORD/CLT on the PHL/DCA loads - I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the 50's or lower.




Sunday PHL is showing 55% and DCA 41%. This is both Mainline and Regional combined.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:38 am

crj900lr wrote:
Would be curious to see if somebody gets info like what's posted RE: DFW/ORD/CLT on the PHL/DCA loads - I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the 50's or lower.




Sunday PHL is showing 55% and DCA 41%. This is both Mainline and Regional combined.

PHL was at a very low schedule today (relative). There were practically no Eagle flights and only flights to major markets. So the load factor would be primarily based on O&D with AA routing few connections via PHL today

The last arrival from a non hub city was an MCO flight that landed at 4pm. Everything after that were only hub arrivals.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 2:43 am

PHL was 43% and DCA was 41% for today. Think it was maybe 20 something flights for PHL and 55-60 for DCA my sources are telling me.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 4:51 pm

Not sure if this was previously known, but DFW-NRT is now scheduled on the 777-300ER through October 23.

DFW-HND will inaugurate on July 9 with a 3x weekly freq. and increase to daily in August and then it'll see the 777-200ER beginning October 25.

One-off 77W on DFW-HND for October 24.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:20 pm

Noteworthy departure levels next month (by my calculations & news reports):
DFW - 669 departures/day
CLT - 489 departures/day
PHL - 187 departures/day (peak 239)
PHX - 123 departures/day
DCA - 105 departures/day
LAX - 62 departures/day
LGA - 52 departures/day
BOS - 41 departures/day
JFK - 26 departures/day

Missing ORD & MIA departures

AA still largest at LAX (DL - 54 departures, UA - 43 departures)

BOS is a place to watch as well
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 5:41 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
Noteworthy departure levels next month (by my calculations & news reports):
DFW - 669 departures/day
CLT - 489 departures/day
PHL - 187 departures/day (peak 239)
PHX - 123 departures/day
DCA - 105 departures/day
LAX - 62 departures/day
LGA - 52 departures/day
BOS - 41 departures/day
JFK - 26 departures/day

Missing ORD & MIA departures

AA still largest at LAX (DL - 54 departures, UA - 43 departures)

BOS is a place to watch as well


I see JFK at 22 departure on July 20th, a Monday, that would be the peak departure day of the week for them. Pick of a Tuesday, it's probably around 15.

DL I counted 60+ departures from LAX in July.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 07, 2020 6:01 pm

tphuang wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
Noteworthy departure levels next month (by my calculations & news reports):
DFW - 669 departures/day
CLT - 489 departures/day
PHL - 187 departures/day (peak 239)
PHX - 123 departures/day
DCA - 105 departures/day
LAX - 62 departures/day
LGA - 52 departures/day
BOS - 41 departures/day
JFK - 26 departures/day

Missing ORD & MIA departures

AA still largest at LAX (DL - 54 departures, UA - 43 departures)

BOS is a place to watch as well


I see JFK at 22 departure on July 20th, a Monday, that would be the peak departure day of the week for them. Pick of a Tuesday, it's probably around 15.

DL I counted 60+ departures from LAX in July.


JFK July 10th
CLT - 4
MIA - 5
PHX - 3
LAX - 7
SFO - 2
CUN - 1
LHR - 1

I'm seeing 23, looks like MAD, LON, & CDG were pulled down after I checked

I wouldn't focus on Tuesday or Saturday schedules, as nearly all stations are significantly smaller on those days

Not seeing LAX over 60 for DL unless you include codeshare & JV partners, given a lot of flights are non-daily
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:14 pm

May 6, 2021, is now available for booking, which is another wave of flight resumptions.

As noted before, PHL-SNN/ATH/BUD/PRG are on the 788 now, ORD-BUD has been loaded on the 6th. I'm assuming ORD-KRK/PRG are on the 7th.

DFW-FAI and ORD-ANC are set to inaugurate on May 6, 2021 as well.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 5:28 pm

Nice to see both ORD - ATH and PHL - ATH there! And both on 788!
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:59 pm

Flew through CLT this morning, and the concourse was as busy as I ever had seen it. Both flights I was on were offering vouchers for people to switch their itinerary
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:14 pm

American once again reshuffles the dates for its return to deep South America:

EZE - MIA: resumes Sept 9 (one daily only)
EZE - JFK resumes Sept 9
EZE - DFW resumes Oct 25
EZE - LAX resumes Oct 25
EZE - MIA resumes Oct 25 (second daily)

FWIW, as this may still be subject to further changes: I'm told the 77W won't return to EZE during the 2020/21 southern summer; all MIA and JFK service will be on 77E; DFW downgauges to the 788 and LAX remains with the 789.

GIG - MIA resumes Aug 5

GRU - MIA resumes Aug 5 (one daily only)
GRU - JFK resumes Aug 5
GRU - DFW resumes Oct 25
GRU - LAX resumes Oct 25
GRU - MIA resumes Oct 25 (second daily)

Of interest is that all service to/from Chile has been delayed until end of October

SCL - MIA resumes Oct 25
SCL - DFW resumes Oct 25
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:11 am

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Not sure if this was previously known, but DFW-NRT is now scheduled on the 777-300ER through October 23.

DFW-HND will inaugurate on July 9 with a 3x weekly freq. and increase to daily in August and then it'll see the 777-200ER beginning October 25.

One-off 77W on DFW-HND for October 24.


That makes sense. With NRT now being relatively more important for connections to the rest of Asia given the drop in nonstop options (particularly to China), it's logical that NRT is now supposed to see a larger aircraft (and higher frequency) than HND, contrary to the original plan.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:20 pm

Good news from shareholders meeting, due to increased flying and higher LFs, June daily cash burn will be decreased down to $40M (maybe lower). Original projections were $50M

June at 58% total Load factor, 62% domestic Load factor
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MIflyer12
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:16 pm

In that same shareholder meeting Parker offered this, emphasis mine:

Parker said demand was returning at low levels but the company does not know how much it will be flying in the fall or in the summer of 2021 due to continued uncertainty.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-amer ... 3H2GX?il=0

In 2Q19 AA boarded an average of 440K a day. http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/20 ... fault.aspx
 
Ishrion
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:11 am

ORD-BUD will inaugurate on May 6, 2021 while ORD-PRG inaugurates on May 8, 2021.

ORD-KRK isn't showing up with them. Either delayed into June 2021 or it won't operate next year. Too early to tell of course...

DFW-AMS will be on the 789 instead of 772 upon resuming on May 6, 2021.
 
MAH4546
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:53 am

Ishrion wrote:
ORD-BUD will inaugurate on May 6, 2021 while ORD-PRG inaugurates on May 8, 2021.

ORD-KRK isn't showing up with them. Either delayed into June 2021 or it won't operate next year. Too early to tell of course...

DFW-AMS will be on the 789 instead of 772 upon resuming on May 6, 2021.


This stuff is all placeholder. We won’t really know anything until fall. Everything is up in the air excerpt Casablanca will not be happening.
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rjbesikof
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:48 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
ORD-BUD will inaugurate on May 6, 2021 while ORD-PRG inaugurates on May 8, 2021.

ORD-KRK isn't showing up with them. Either delayed into June 2021 or it won't operate next year. Too early to tell of course...

DFW-AMS will be on the 789 instead of 772 upon resuming on May 6, 2021.


This stuff is all placeholder. We won’t really know anything until fall. Everything is up in the air excerpt Casablanca will not be happening.


How do you know that CMN is gone?
 
MAH4546
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:02 pm

rjbesikof wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
ORD-BUD will inaugurate on May 6, 2021 while ORD-PRG inaugurates on May 8, 2021.

ORD-KRK isn't showing up with them. Either delayed into June 2021 or it won't operate next year. Too early to tell of course...

DFW-AMS will be on the 789 instead of 772 upon resuming on May 6, 2021.


This stuff is all placeholder. We won’t really know anything until fall. Everything is up in the air excerpt Casablanca will not be happening.


How do you know that CMN is gone?


AA said its not happening because of the 757 retirements. Won't work on a bigger plane.
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rjbesikof
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:12 pm

MAH4546 wrote:
rjbesikof wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:

This stuff is all placeholder. We won’t really know anything until fall. Everything is up in the air excerpt Casablanca will not be happening.


How do you know that CMN is gone?


AA said its not happening because of the 757 retirements. Won't work on a bigger plane.


Maybe it'll happen in a few years once they can find the right plane for it.
 
Bigant0408
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:21 pm

rjbesikof wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
rjbesikof wrote:

How do you know that CMN is gone?


AA said its not happening because of the 757 retirements. Won't work on a bigger plane.


Maybe it'll happen in a few years once they can find the right plane for it.


More than likely once they start receiving the 321XLRs in 2023 they can try and start service again
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usairways85
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:33 pm

rjbesikof wrote:
MAH4546 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
ORD-BUD will inaugurate on May 6, 2021 while ORD-PRG inaugurates on May 8, 2021.

ORD-KRK isn't showing up with them. Either delayed into June 2021 or it won't operate next year. Too early to tell of course...

DFW-AMS will be on the 789 instead of 772 upon resuming on May 6, 2021.


This stuff is all placeholder. We won’t really know anything until fall. Everything is up in the air excerpt Casablanca will not be happening.


How do you know that CMN is gone?

FWIW, KRK and other niche routes were mentioned in the same article that basically confirmed CMN will be pushed out

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