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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:43 pm

Not seeing ORH bookable at any time in the future.... Isolated pull or are other small cities missing?
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:52 pm

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onwFan wrote:
I am pretty sure one of the first (if not the first) transcontinental flight that gets resumed at SAN will be to LHR by BA. There is no question of whether it will be resumed, only when. JL also had carved out a niche for itself at SAN; and with LAX becoming less of a connecting hub for AA, I am sure NRT-SAN on JL is just a matter of time, especially given the massive OW FF base at SAN from AS.


Sure one day maybe, but SAN is hardly a market for either BA or JL in the grand scheme of things.

Its pretty apparent what the priorities for each airline are now during COVID. According to airlineroute.net both BA and JL have added more service back to the US in the last month, but obviously not SAN.

To maybe put this in a clearer perspective, AA-BA had 5 daily flights between LAX and LHR including 2 A380s. Today they are down to single 789. The market has to return massively to place like LA, before SAN becomes a priority to add back.


The way I see this playing out is Airlines will use the pandemic to gauge how their routes perform. I see BA doing more direct flights with smaller aircraft to more destinations that demand direct flights. It's all in how they market themselves.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:53 pm

lshiron, Japan currently is denying entry to US citizens from any country that has significant COVID cases so O&D Japan/Asia traffic is taking a hit. NRT makes sense in that due to a lack of East Asia capacity AA is sending Asia non-Japan traffic via NRT. HKG is delayed because of the requirement of flight crew do COVID testing and quarantine. AA could do what UA/DL is doing in that they still serve PVG, PEK, HKG but via ICN or NRT/HND.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:59 pm

x1234 wrote:
lshiron, Japan currently is denying entry to US citizens from any country that has significant COVID cases so O&D Japan/Asia traffic is taking a hit. NRT makes sense in that due to a lack of East Asia capacity AA is sending Asia non-Japan traffic via NRT. HKG is delayed because of the requirement of flight crew do COVID testing and quarantine. AA could do what UA/DL is doing in that they still serve PVG, PEK, HKG but via ICN or NRT/HND.


For what it's worth, JAL recently announced they're increasing HND-DFW from 2x weekly pax to 4x weekly in September.

JAL's also increasing pax frequencies to BOS/SFO/ORD/JFK next month.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:05 pm

American's widebody network (passenger and cargo-only) for September 2020:

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New additions include cargo-only CLT-MUC with the 777-200ER, JFK-GRU, LAX-LHR, and NRT-HKG originating from LAX.

Full details (schedule, aircraft, frequency, etc.) can be found here: https://www.aacargo.com/downloads/Septe ... hedule.pdf

American has also been operating cargo-only flights from Miami to Montevideo with the 777-200ER. Not sure when that began.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:01 pm

Please bring back flights to JFK AA. It is tough seeing terminal eight only having 15 departures a day.

I hope soon that AA continues to add to JFK. Any signs of recovery?
 
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:08 pm

It looks like PHL-DUB is an addition for Sep as well. There are a number of frequency increases
PHL-FRA/MXP go from 2x to daily
PHL-AMS goes from 3x to daily
PHL-FCO goes 2x to 3x
PHL-ZRH goes 2x to 3x

CLT-MUC is daily
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:31 pm

Drove thru DFW today and noticed quite a few 738's and A321's started to fill up the Terminal F ramp again
as well as the deicing pads near the 36's. I'd heard AA was pulling back their skeds, guess those rumors
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:40 pm

AmericanAir88 wrote:
Please bring back flights to JFK AA. It is tough seeing terminal eight only having 15 departures a day.

I hope soon that AA continues to add to JFK. Any signs of recovery?


I highly doubt it. Look at the current projection of new infections, the projection point to a second wave in November/December. Cargo flights could be strong but passenger service is done for 2020 if any of the projection is to be taken seriously. At least not before Thanks Giving.

See: https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 2:30 am

chonetsao wrote:
AmericanAir88 wrote:
Please bring back flights to JFK AA. It is tough seeing terminal eight only having 15 departures a day.

I hope soon that AA continues to add to JFK. Any signs of recovery?


I highly doubt it. Look at the current projection of new infections, the projection point to a second wave in November/December. Cargo flights could be strong but passenger service is done for 2020 if any of the projection is to be taken seriously. At least not before Thanks Giving.

See: https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america


No offense, no projection has been right. And we are still in first “wave” if there are waves

Florida was supposed to hit a wave peak at the end of April that never happened (cases stayed low). Instead it happened in July.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:09 am

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It looks like PHL-DUB is an addition for Sep as well. There are a number of frequency increases
PHL-FRA/MXP go from 2x to daily
PHL-AMS goes from 3x to daily
PHL-FCO goes 2x to 3x
PHL-ZRH goes 2x to 3x

CLT-MUC is daily


Question out of curiosity...PHL-FRA/MXP, would you or anyone think these could potentially be offered as pax flights partially considering the cargo flights having been running like this?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:19 am

Ishrion wrote:
American's widebody network (passenger and cargo-only) for September 2020:

Image

New additions include cargo-only CLT-MUC with the 777-200ER, JFK-GRU, LAX-LHR, and NRT-HKG originating from LAX.

Full details (schedule, aircraft, frequency, etc.) can be found here: https://www.aacargo.com/downloads/Septe ... hedule.pdf

American has also been operating cargo-only flights from Miami to Montevideo with the 777-200ER. Not sure when that began.


I think maybe a week or two ago. It definitely started after the tropical storm scare.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:21 am

Rookie87 wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
It looks like PHL-DUB is an addition for Sep as well. There are a number of frequency increases
PHL-FRA/MXP go from 2x to daily
PHL-AMS goes from 3x to daily
PHL-FCO goes 2x to 3x
PHL-ZRH goes 2x to 3x

CLT-MUC is daily


Question out of curiosity...PHL-FRA/MXP, would you or anyone think these could potentially be offered as pax flights partially considering the cargo flights having been running like this?


I've been thinking about this lately. American is exiting the PHL to Germany market with the termination of PHL to Berlin. In late 2018 and early 2019, American ended PHL-FRA/MUC respectively. Shortly after, I believe Lufthansa took advantage and upgauged FRA-PHL to the 747-400.

Now, with Lufthansa suspending the route, American has the opportunity to regain market share, similar to how United is going for ORD-TLV (on top of cargo demand) while EL AL is weak.

As for MXP, not sure about that. I'm guessing that route would have to rely on connections?

Would airlines actually lose money if they opened passenger bookings for these cargo flights? Of course, they'd have to pay for staffing, catering, etc. Not sure how much that would cost them.

And, unfortunately for PHL, they still aren't an approved gateway for European flights, so that needs to happen first.
 
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:24 am

Rookie87 wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
It looks like PHL-DUB is an addition for Sep as well. There are a number of frequency increases
PHL-FRA/MXP go from 2x to daily
PHL-AMS goes from 3x to daily
PHL-FCO goes 2x to 3x
PHL-ZRH goes 2x to 3x

CLT-MUC is daily


Question out of curiosity...PHL-FRA/MXP, would you or anyone think these could potentially be offered as pax flights partially considering the cargo flights having been running like this?


IMO the PHL-FRA route ended about 2 years ago as it struggled against LH and its dominance overall with the Germany markets. So I doubt they’d bring the route back anytime soon. As for MXP I could see it potentially begin service one day especially since they already serve FCO & VCE from PHL.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:56 am

Bigant0408 wrote:
Rookie87 wrote:
usairways85 wrote:
It looks like PHL-DUB is an addition for Sep as well. There are a number of frequency increases
PHL-FRA/MXP go from 2x to daily
PHL-AMS goes from 3x to daily
PHL-FCO goes 2x to 3x
PHL-ZRH goes 2x to 3x

CLT-MUC is daily


Question out of curiosity...PHL-FRA/MXP, would you or anyone think these could potentially be offered as pax flights partially considering the cargo flights having been running like this?


IMO the PHL-FRA route ended about 2 years ago as it struggled against LH and its dominance overall with the Germany markets. So I doubt they’d bring the route back anytime soon. As for MXP I could see it potentially begin service one day especially since they already serve FCO & VCE from PHL.


MXP is very different from FCO and VCE. MXP is a business market not a tourism market and those business ties are very centered on NYC and MIA. PHL would not really add anything.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:30 am

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No offense, no projection has been right. And we are still in first “wave” if there are waves

Florida was supposed to hit a wave peak at the end of April that never happened (cases stayed low). Instead it happened in July.


No offense taken. However, I would like to point out that the projection for majority of Europe has been correct so far. USA is lagging test capacity by April, like many European countries. That may have influenced how many cases being discovered in April. Plus the ease of lockdown restrictions too early brought the 'second' wave in July. If some states did not open up too early as they did, you would not see the peak in July but instead you would have seen it in April. There is a thread in non-aviation forum which you can follow. So I won't go any further here. The important thing is how this administration would project the trend and then what policy they decide to take. That would ultimately decide whether they will be open boarders or not. I think the administration do take the health data more seriously as the data is pooled from legitimate sources. And its model is within its trend projection.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:48 am

At JFK T8 right now about to head to CLT. It is mostly empty. The boarding areas, check in, and security have some people, but it is mostly empty. Its very upsetting as I remember when this terminal was packed. Admirals club has no food or drink.

Please add more to T8 AA. Its one of my favorite terminals. I love the theming.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:35 pm

CLT is quite popular. The E-Gates were packed. It was refreshing to see a busy airport.

I really hope JFK becomes busy again.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 7:58 pm

AmericanAir88 wrote:
CLT is quite popular. The E-Gates were packed. It was refreshing to see a busy airport.

I really hope JFK becomes busy again.


I don't believe it's fair to compare the two. Remember that JFK serves as a European gateway for AA ... with the current travel bans in place, don't expect traffic there to pick up anytime soon.
CLT is busy because AA has decided to funnel most domestic traffic through CLT and DFW, something that isn't feasible at JFK.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:02 pm

AmericanAir88 wrote:
At JFK T8 right now about to head to CLT. It is mostly empty. The boarding areas, check in, and security have some people, but it is mostly empty. Its very upsetting as I remember when this terminal was packed. Admirals club has no food or drink.

Please add more to T8 AA. Its one of my favorite terminals. I love the theming.


JFK T8 has never been packed. That is one of the reasons it is so pleasant.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:28 pm

E gates at CLT are all express flights, no mainline.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:49 pm

AmericanAir88 wrote:
CLT is quite popular. The E-Gates were packed. It was refreshing to see a busy airport.

I really hope JFK becomes busy again.


At CLT 250+ flights scheduled the rest of August and a majority of September except Tues and Wed on the E concourse. Most flights are on PSA CR9s with Tues and Wed moving to 240 flights starting 9/15
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:59 pm

usflyer msp wrote:
AmericanAir88 wrote:
At JFK T8 right now about to head to CLT. It is mostly empty. The boarding areas, check in, and security have some people, but it is mostly empty. Its very upsetting as I remember when this terminal was packed. Admirals club has no food or drink.

Please add more to T8 AA. Its one of my favorite terminals. I love the theming.


JFK T8 has never been packed. That is one of the reasons it is so pleasant.


Ive been to T8 plenty of times when it is packed. It has been packed until 2020.

When AA was flying routes to non-hubs and the Caribbean, the check in area and gates would always be flourishing.

I think sometimes it looks not that packed because it is a huge terminal. There is a ton of open space.

Anyway, I just hope AA adds more back to JFK.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 23, 2020 5:34 am

AA has loaded SEA-PVG starting March 27, 2021.

It's on the 777-200ER, not the 787-9 as noted in the application.
 
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Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:39 pm

Ishrion wrote:
AA has loaded SEA-PVG starting March 27, 2021.

It's on the 777-200ER, not the 787-9 as noted in the application.


Are they going to be rotating it with the LHR aircraft or a domestic 772?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:49 pm

rjbesikof wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
AA has loaded SEA-PVG starting March 27, 2021.

It's on the 777-200ER, not the 787-9 as noted in the application.


Are they going to be rotating it with the LHR aircraft or a domestic 772?


Currently unclear but I don’t think it’ll be the LHR 772.

LHR-SEA arrives in SEA at 3:50 PM while SEA-PVG departs SEA at 12:50 PM.

But it’s possible to do PVG-SEA-LHR since the PVG-SEA flight arrives in SEA at 3:10 PM and departs for LHR at 6:40 PM.

Either way, some domestic sector will likely be needed.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:08 pm

Ishrion wrote:
rjbesikof wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
AA has loaded SEA-PVG starting March 27, 2021.

It's on the 777-200ER, not the 787-9 as noted in the application.


Are they going to be rotating it with the LHR aircraft or a domestic 772?


Currently unclear but I don’t think it’ll be the LHR 772.

LHR-SEA arrives in SEA at 3:50 PM while SEA-PVG departs SEA at 12:50 PM.

But it’s possible to do PVG-SEA-LHR since the PVG-SEA flight arrives in SEA at 3:10 PM and departs for LHR at 6:40 PM.

Either way, some domestic sector will likely be needed.

Wouldn’t they have to do a domestic leg simply because they don’t have a crew base in SEA?
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:09 pm

From what I hear at DL, PVG is the #1 cargo station in China for DL & UA. HKG is #2 and PEK is #3. Part of the reason the 77W was on DFW/LAX-HKG was because of cargo (HKG is a huge trans-shipment station for ALL South-east Asian cargo especially from SIN).
 
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Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:34 pm

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From what I hear at DL, PVG is the #1 cargo station in China for DL & UA. HKG is #2 and PEK is #3. Part of the reason the 77W was on DFW/LAX-HKG was because of cargo (HKG is a huge trans-shipment station for ALL South-east Asian cargo especially from SIN).


Delta does not fly to HKG. Hasn’t for a couple of years now.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:57 pm

Vasu Raja: "We need to look at things that historically we wouldn't have done, like more point-point flying, more Caribbean/Mexico from non-hub cities"
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1300 ... 68708?s=20
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:43 pm

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Perhaps a consolidation of central Illinois services - move SPI, PIA and CMI all into BMI. Again - pure speculation.


With DL pulling out of PIA but keeping BMI perhaps AA should do the opposite.
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:52 pm

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Vasu Raja: "We need to look at things that historically we wouldn't have done, like more point-point flying, more Caribbean/Mexico from non-hub cities"
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1300 ... 68708?s=20


Sure - look at them. Maybe even try a bunch. It doesn't mean they're going to work. Recycling a few ideas doesn't fix the 75% revenue problem for 4Q20 cited by JonNYC:


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AA Adds Routes Including CUN-CMH/IND, MIA-MKE/PWM/ROC, JFK-SJD and more

Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:49 pm

American Airlines added (24 seasonal) routes in its latest schedule update according to this: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -15-cities

The carrier (AA) is adding 24 seasonal routes in the new schedule to try to capture more leisure passengers traveling from cold weather cities to warmer destinations, including flights to Miami, Phoenix and Mexico, American said in a statement Sunday. Most of the routes will operate on Saturdays.


So far I've been able to find these routes:

- MIA-MKE Saturday-only E-175 (unsure if this is a resumption)
- MIA-PWM Saturday-only E-175
- MIA-ROC Saturday-only E-175
- CUN-CMH Saturday-only A319
- CUN-IND Saturday-only 737-800
- JFK-SJD daily 737-800 (in response to Eastern?)
- PHX-TUL daily CRJ-900 (November 7 to April 5)

The first six routes will operate between December and early April. The three Mexico routes are "subject to government approval" so I'm assuming these were just loaded.

Some of the 24 added routes appear to be resumptions from when they were cut several years ago. Cancun to Kansas City and Raleigh/Durham are also available during the winter, but I'm unsure if they were flying in recent years.
 
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Re: AA Adds Routes Including CUN-CMH/IND, MIA-MKE/PWM/ROC, JFK-SJD and more

Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:53 pm

SMF-SJD Sat-only A319 loaded for sale for Christmas/New Years and mid-Feb-early April.
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 4:54 pm

I said the same thing when UA added routes ex-MKE, but I can almost guarantee MKEMIA will do well. People in WI see traveling to Florida almost as a pilgrimage. If you fly it, they will come.
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:03 pm

Ishrion wrote:
- JFK-SJD daily 737-800 (in response to Eastern?)


Why in the world would AA care about Eastern starting 2x weekly service on JFK-SJD???.....
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:10 pm

Mia-Lex/day is loaded as well
 
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Re: AA Adds Routes Including CUN-CMH/IND, MIA-MKE/PWM/ROC, JFK-SJD and more

Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:23 pm

Possibility of resuming plans for AUS-SJD, Saturday only?

It seems likely AA will play the dartboard game, but if this is the one way to find some sort of profitability then all is welcome.
 
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Re: AA Adds Routes Including CUN-CMH/IND, MIA-MKE/PWM/ROC, JFK-SJD and more

Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:25 pm

STL-CUN also gets Saturday flights
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:27 pm

Nothing on JFK - ATH and JFK - TLV yet?
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:33 pm

^^ Somebody on another site noted that the STL-CUN flight number is the same as TW's flight number to London from STL. Pretty cool if it was indeed a nod to the former hub.
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:34 pm

toga998 wrote:
Possibility of resuming plans for AUS-SJD, Saturday only?

It seems likely AA will play the dartboard game, but if this is the one way to find some sort of profitability then all is welcome.


I see it loaded in the schedule
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:35 pm

MIA-DSM, was supposed to launch in June but cancelled, is there too. And Miami-Dayton is back. This last operated I think around 2007.
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Re: AA Adds Routes Including CUN-CMH/IND, MIA-MKE/PWM/ROC, JFK-SJD and more

Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:38 pm

This is clearly a response to UA doing p2p adds a few weeks ago.
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:51 pm

rjbesikof wrote:
This is clearly a response to UA doing p2p adds a few weeks ago.


I don't think so. It is more of bet that, since most of the world is closed off to Americans at the moment, Florida and Mexico are going to be the hot spots this winter. I expect to see some PHX adds as well.
 
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 5:57 pm

usflyer msp wrote:
rjbesikof wrote:
This is clearly a response to UA doing p2p adds a few weeks ago.


I don't think so. It is more of bet that, since most of the world is closed off to Americans at the moment, Florida and Mexico are going to be the hot spots this winter. I expect to see some PHX adds as well.


Most of the world is closed off to everybody, not “Americans.” If an American can’t visit a country, it is usually the case that the entire world is also blocked from visiting that country.

Given how bad COVID is getting in Europe right now, while it’s easing in the States, I do think that Europe will show no signs of strengthening travel for the winter.
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Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:02 pm

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usflyer msp wrote:
rjbesikof wrote:
This is clearly a response to UA doing p2p adds a few weeks ago.


I don't think so. It is more of bet that, since most of the world is closed off to Americans at the moment, Florida and Mexico are going to be the hot spots this winter. I expect to see some PHX adds as well.


Most of the world is closed off to everybody, not “Americans.” If an American can’t visit a country, it is usually the case that the entire world is also blocked from visiting that country.

Given how bad COVID is getting in Europe right now, while it’s easing in the States, I do think that Europe will show no signs of strengthening travel for the winter.


He wasn't implying that Americans are closed off as the emphasis, but more as AA targets American consumers and Florida/Mexico are places they can travel.
 
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:04 pm

I suspect were are going to see the end of the 772 fleet sooner than later. :(
 
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Re: AA Adds Routes Including CUN-CMH/IND, MIA-MKE/PWM/ROC, JFK-SJD and more

Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:10 pm

Interesting that before the pandemic a lot of this p2p flying was done by DL and WN - airlines which now seem to prefer routing everyone through hubs* these days. Conversely, the airlines that never did much of this, AA and UA, are now more open to it while their competitors retrench. Interesting times for sure!

*I guess WN calls the likes of BWI/DAL/DEN/MDW/PHX "focus cities" right? But those WN stations do for all intents and purposes function an awful lot like any other carrier's hubs..
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Re: American Airlines Network Thread - 2020

Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:25 pm

Varsity1 wrote:
I suspect were are going to see the end of the 772 fleet sooner than later. :(

Not happening a lot of the 333 and 332 are being replaced with 772s. As a matter of fact AA opened up a CLT 777 pilot domicile and trained CLT FAs on the 777. Cargo flights CLT-MUC starts next month with a live passenger flight MIA round trip and when LHR and MUC return this October it will be on 772s. And twice in the past several months a 772 has been to CLT for maintenance and ramp training and gate fit checks.

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