usflyer msp wrote:
To Be Exact:
AA/AS relationship announced -- Feb 13
Mileage Earning Announced - April 1
Reciprocal Elite Benefits Announced - Nov 20
AA/B6 announcement -- July 16
AA/B6 should have at least had the mileage earning announced by now.
I still think it is going forward but I think there are some disagreements about the scale and scope of the partnership that they are still working out.
The big difference is that AA/AS had an existing partnership with mileage earning going back many years. AA/B6 deal came together very quickly. The details of the ff benefits and code sharing details were not agreed to until a month and half ago. And the deal didn't get approved by DOT until a month ago.
Without B6 partnership, AA is going to lose a lot of NYC flight and relevance to ff all around the country.
The deal is more meaningful for B6 than it is for AA.
Pre-covid AA wasn't that relevant in NYC, AA has admitted that numerous times.
That maybe so. But AA would not make this deal if it did not help them. Having B6 doing their NYC/Boston flying clearly helps them with ff outside of their hub cities. And it will help keep ff from moving to DL/UA in NYC. DL being much less profitable in NYC is a huge plus for AA.
I don't need to present evidence. I'm not claiming anything except that AS+AA already announced their benefits, which they did. Their failure to announce upgrade benefits does not equal their failure to announce benefits. You tend to be bad at inferring things and manipulating articles to suit you bias, so I understand the lapse there.
I was actually thinking about network wise like code sharing? You are the one that brought up benefits. According to what I read on flyertalk a couple of weeks ago, they haven't seen additional code sharing.
Regarding the rest, you fail to present any evidence, just inference from articles, as always. Closing a 50 seat jet base in New York City does not equal ending RJ flying from New York City.
Vasu has said 50 seat flying is going away from NYC and they closed the base. How much more obvious can it be than that? I did not say all RJs are leaving in NYC. I said 50 seat flying. Read carefully. Do you want to take a look at how many of their non-hub JFK/LGA flights were on 50 seaters pre-COVID?
You used to parade on and on and on about Alaska closing LAX, but that hasn't happened and it's network at LAX has grown significantly during the pandemic. So now onto presenting your next inference as fact I guess. Until you are proven wrong again. Then you can create your next lie.
Show proof where I said Alaska is closing LAX. Please show proof.
Let's see the things I've said thus far that's JetBlue related in the past few months:
- Build up EWR - check
- Get more slots at LGA/JFK for increased flying - if this AA deal goes forward, then big check
- Get additional gates at LAX and moving focus city there from LGB - check
- RDU buildup - check
- BOS & MCO get put in the back burners - check
- Increased flying out of SFO - check
You want to point out where I actually lied? That is a very strong accusation.