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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Sun Jun 21, 2020 7:31 pm

It looks like Ryanair is considering the -10 MAX.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton ... nturn/amp/

“If the MAX is back flying in September, October this year, I will be very disappointed if we’re not in very active negotiations with Boeing either this side of Christmas or early in the spring on an order for larger aircraft, the MAX 10s,” O’Leary told the Davy Transport Conference on Thursday.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Mon Jun 22, 2020 4:54 pm

Boeing To Fly Max FAA Certification Flight THIS Month. ALSO: Congress Draft's FAA/Boeing Bill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KEMeODLnQ8
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:42 pm

Just a reminder that this is a reference thread, not a discussion thread. This is a news feed. Please direct any discussion to the 737 MAX discussion thread.

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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 4:22 pm

Boeing asks suppliers to cut production rate outlook for 2020 from 125 planes to 72 planes.

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-supplie ... cial-woes/

Unclear if Boeing itself would maintain a higher number given the number of stored fuselages right now.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:29 pm

trpmb6 wrote:
Boeing asks suppliers to cut production rate outlook for 2020 from 125 planes to 72 planes.

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-supplie ... cial-woes/

Unclear if Boeing itself would maintain a higher number given the number of stored fuselages right now.


Might make sense to link to the primary news source, rather than a regurgitation:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-spir ... SKBN23T368
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:26 pm

Air Italy’s 737 MAX’s take to the skies one final time as they go to Budapest for maintenance and storage.

https://www.aeronewsx.com/post/exclusiv ... final-time
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:18 am

EASA and Transport Canada are requiring Boeing to make changes to the 737MAX flight controls FAA has told Boeing it must do the design upgrades to satisfy their concerns.

Upgrades can be done after RTS.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/b ... -controls/
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:12 pm

FAA test flight expected early next week.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boei ... SKBN23X29C
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:27 pm

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... f=ez43dC45

Bloomberg has a bit more detail. Apparently Monday?
 
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Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:51 pm

Courtesy: Airways Magazine

FAA Requires Boeing 737 MAX Wire Shields Inspection

https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/faa-737-max-wire-shields-inspection/
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Sun Jun 28, 2020 4:38 am

Reuters: Boeing 737 MAX certification flight tests to begin on Monday: sources says:

Pilots and test crew members from the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration and Boeing Co (BA.N) aim to kick off a certification test campaign for the 737 MAX on Monday, expected to last at least three days, people familiar with the matter told Reuters.

So Reuters has at least two sources saying the long (long, long, ...) awaited MAX test flights will begin Monday.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:31 pm

BBC News here in the UK are reporting on this as well:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53212274
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:11 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FJfrB6TGA0

This is a video from Bloomberg about the June 29 MAX test.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:56 pm

ST: Inspector General report details how Boeing played down MCAS in original 737 MAX certification – and FAA missed it says:

A report set to be released Wednesday by the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Transportation concludes that Boeing deliberately played down the details of the flight control system that later helped bring down two 737 MAX jets so that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), responsible for certifying the new system, entirely missed its significance and danger.

This is the long awaited "Inspector General's Report" mentioned often in our on-going MAX grounding threads.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:22 pm

According to Jon Ostrower, the FAA says the test flights are complete:

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1278440428359090182

Also they released a very revealing video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDgWYO3B5LY&feature=emb_logo
 
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Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:32 pm

Courtesy: Airways Magazine
FAA Completes Boeing 737 Max Recertification Flights

https://airwaysmag.com/industry/faa-completes-boeing-737-max-recertification-flights/
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:42 pm

Next Boeing 737 MAX Government Test Flight Scheduled for Coming Days (WSJ)

This time, "common airline pilots' will test the MAX.

https://apkmetro.com/next-boeing-737-ma ... ming-days/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/next-boein ... 1593983305
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:53 am

Avolon has cancelled 27 more 737 MAXs on top of the 75 cancelled earlier this year.

https://www.avolon.aero/newsroom-and-th ... ter-update
 
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Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:18 pm

Courtesy: Airways Magazine
Free Flight Changes for US Travelers Upon Boeing 737 Max Return

https://airwaysmag.com/industry/free-flight-changes-us-travelers-boeing-737-max/
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 12:04 pm

Recently had a lengthy discussion with aviation journalist David Learmount and Capt. John Cox on the 737 Max (here's the link if anyone's interested: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/csai/id1522519185).

What followed was a deep dive in complex role of automation in airplanes. Something I've been wondering was how the MCAS failure would translate to the future of automation in airplanes. None are keen on pilotless aircraft any time soon. Learmount also shared the results of a survey he conducted with people all around the industry. It shows they don't expect pilotless aircraft before 2050, if any.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:16 pm

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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:37 pm

FG ( https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/ame ... 52.article ) has a source that is down-playing AA's "threat" to cancel 737s and says the number currently needing financing is around a dozen, not 17.
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Sun Jul 12, 2020 1:29 pm

Boeing has seen a total of at least 462 MAX cancellations since January, 2020. flyDubai might hit Boeing hard as it warns replacing MAX with Airbus A320neo aircraft. flyDubai is the second top customer with 251 firm orders after Southwest Airlines.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2020/07/12/boe ... 9-fallout/
 
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Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:04 pm

AvWeek ( https://aviationweek.com/ad-week/video- ... fix-boeing ) interviews Boeing CEO Calhoun who says (in part):

I think we’re making tremendous progress. Those MAX moments [and the loss of lives] were devastating. It was like an earthquake. I don’t want anybody at Boeing or in the world to forget that. We have more work to do so those kinds of things never happen again. There is more board engagement around safety and implementation of a more comprehensive safety management system within the company to gather not just discrete failures on airplanes but also squawks in the service industry to highlight things we should be looking at in the company and processing in real time.

We’re also muscling up the engineering arm of the company. It’s really [allowing] engineers to be independent of program leaders and have a direct line to the board on safety reporting. We’ve announced all the reorganizations, and we’re not getting any pushback. Our program managers welcome it.
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:52 pm

Again, I made this post just a few posts up.

This is just a reminder that this is a reference thread, like a news feed. The only posts this thread may contain are links to news stories, including brief descriptions from the user (quotes are recommended, but optional).

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Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:56 pm

Reuters: Boeing 737 MAX not expected to fly before October, FAA preparing directive

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boei ... SKCN24M2EE
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Thu Jul 23, 2020 2:28 pm

Headline says it all.
Spirit Areosystems expects sharply lower deliveries of 737 Max planes in the coming years.

Spirit shared a forecast with lenders that showed deliveries this year of the Boeing 737 of around 70 compared with a previous forecast of a little more than 200, while next year’s deliveries of the narrow-body plane would likely come in at less than half an earlier forecast of 400 planes,

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/key-boe ... -2022.html
 
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Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:34 pm

Courtesy: Aviation Week

U.S. Operators Shuffling, But Not Canceling, MAX Deliveries

https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/aircraft-propulsion/us-operators-shuffling-not-canceling-max-deliveries
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:25 pm

Boeing pushes to Q4 its expectation for resuming 737 Max deliveries

https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 36.article

Boeing aims to deliver 450 stored 737 Max within one year

https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 38.article

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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Mon Aug 03, 2020 6:59 pm

Looks like the Notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) for a Boeing 737 MAX airworthiness directive (AD) (PDF) is out.

Also, Preliminary Summary of the FAA’s Review of the Boeing 737 MAX (PDF) is available as well.

Today, the FAA sent a notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) for a Boeing 737 MAX airworthiness directive (AD) (PDF) to the Office of the Federal Register for publication. The NPRM proposes mandating a number of design changes to address an identified unsafe condition. When the NPRM publishes in the Federal Register, a 45 day public comment period will begin. The FAA is posting the NPRM on its website today to enable the public to begin review early.

The FAA will also be placing the Preliminary Summary of the FAA’s Review of the Boeing 737 MAX (PDF) in the docket to assist with the review of the proposed AD.

Ref: https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=93206

Ref: https://twitter.com/davidshepardson/sta ... 5683932160

Lots to take in...

Please discuss in the grounding general discussion thread, not here!
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:59 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53646442

'While the company hopes to get the 737 Max flying again commercially by early 2021',

That bit is somewhat worrying. Not only only is 2020 done, but 'early 2021' whatever that means, is not a given.
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Tue Aug 04, 2020 12:21 pm

Wiring Fixes Among Changes FAA Will Require Before MAX Can Return

The FAA’s proposed steps for operators to clear Boeing 737 MAXs for service include separating wire bundles deemed to be noncompliant with regulations and conducting “readiness” flights to ensure the long-grounded aircraft are airworthy, a draft notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) made public Aug. 3 reveals.


The FAA found that the wiring needs to be separated in 12 places to meet 2007 regulatory changes put in place to prevent wiring failures from creating hazards.

https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... can-return
 
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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread 2020

Tue Aug 04, 2020 3:22 pm

MAX EASA recertification flights still have to happen, and have not been scheduled yet due to Covid19 complications, per Bloomberg

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... oves-ahead
 
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Thu Aug 06, 2020 2:21 pm

Kuwaiti lessor halves Boeing 737 MAX order after ending legal claim

DUBAI (Reuters) - Kuwaiti aircraft leasing company Alafco has halved its order for 40 Boeing 737 jets after reaching an agreement to end its legal claim over a cancelled order for the planes, it said on Tuesday.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boei ... SKCN2500Q7

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