Boeing 737MAX Grounding News and Reference Thread [Ungrounded by FAA 18NOV2020]

rabader · Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:11 pm

This morning was the first test flight of an Aeromexico 737 MAX 8

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... k#26510f87

northstardc4m · Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:19 pm

Transport Canada is NOT lifting the grounding yet:

https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/12/17/ ... g-737-max/

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Revelation · Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:26 pm

Details on Canada's recent actions to approve the design changes and an anticipated timeline for RTS:

Canada expects to lift its flight ban on the Boeing 737 MAX jetliner in January, the country’s aviation regulator said on Thursday, after it approved design changes to the aircraft grounded in March 2019 following two fatal crashes.
....
Canada’s approval of design changes marks the first step in the aircraft’s return to service in Canada, which the regulator said would require a Canadian airworthiness directive in January and an interim order on training.

“It’s possible that after January, once the planes have been modified and the pilots and everybody are trained on the procedures, we will allow the MAX to fly,” Transport Minister Marc Garneau told reporters.

Ref: https://in.reuters.com/article/boeing-7 ... NL4N2IX37E

REDHL · Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:29 pm

Since yesterday, Copa Airlines has been conducting test flights of its 737 MAX 9s:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hp-9901cmp
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hp-9906cmp

KarlB737 · Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:50 pm

Courtesy: Airways Magazine

Boeing Hiring Pilots To Assist In MAX Comeback

https://airwaysmag.com/industry/boeing/boeing-hiring-pilots-max-comeback/

rabader · Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:11 pm

Today was the first Aeromexico 737 MAX 8 revenue flight. It flew MEX-CUN and CUN-MEX.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... k#26587ced

CanukinUSA · Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:27 am

The US Senate report on Aviation Safety in online including more details on 737 Max Certification at:
https://www.commerce.senate.gov/service ... 34D9D3CEF6

Revelation · Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:10 pm

Congress to pass sweeping reform of FAA in response to MCAS tragedy:

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/b ... x-crashes/

EAARbrat · Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:07 pm

EASA approves MAX return.

https://airwaysmag.com/industry/boeing/ ... fe-to-fly/

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KarlB737 · Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:36 pm

Courtesy: David Pappas via YouTube

American 737 MAX 8 Employee Only Flight- Dallas to Dallas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6D1UEQ0aeU

Revelation · Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:43 pm

Looks like some of the white tails are finding a new home:

BREAKING: Alaska Airlines signs “agreement in principle” with Boeing to order 23 more 737 Max 9s, total commitment rises to 68, options for 52 more. Nine will be already-built white tails. Carrier to exit legacy Virgin America A320s and A319s by mid-2023, will keep 10 A321neos.

Ref: https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/ ... 6055495681

REDHL · Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:34 pm

Copa Airlines has confirmed it will resume its 737 MAX 9 services on January 4th, 2021. It will be initially deployed on the PTY-LAX route (CM 472).

Ref (spanish only):
https://aviacionaldia.com/2020/12/exclu ... enero.html

UpNAWAy · Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:07 pm

The first passenger MAX flight in the US is airbonn right now.

https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-t ... 1051298174

citationjet · Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:16 pm

UpNAWAy wrote:
The first passenger MAX flight in the US is airbonn right now.

AA flight 718, N314RH, MIA to LGA.

ltbewr · Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:48 pm

Apparently the CEO of AA, other top executives, the wife of the flight Captain are on this initial restart flight. AA offered passengers the ability to change flights if didn't want to be on the 737 MAX. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/first ... d=msedgdhp

REDHL · Tue Dec 29, 2020 5:47 pm

Apparently, Copa Airlines restarted its 737 MAX services today (six days earlier than expected), with HP-9906CMP being deployed to the PTY-SJO route (CM806):

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hp-9906cmp

B717fan · Tue Dec 29, 2020 6:28 pm

AAL718 has landed safely.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /KMIA/KLGA

lightsaber · Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:00 pm

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Aviation737 · Wed Dec 30, 2020 2:34 pm

SIA flies 737 MAX back to Singapore after CAAS approval from storage in Australia
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... after-caas

ctrabs0114 · Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:12 pm

Several AA 3M8 ferry flights BFI-TUL (AA9825) - at least three per week since 10DEC20. Not sure if these are new initial deliveries or if these were 3M8s previously delivered to AA but stored at BFI due to the grounding, but there's a good chance of spotting AA's MAX fleet flying into TUL:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/aa9825 (Full listing from 10DEC20 through 31DEC20)

KarlB737 · Fri Jan 01, 2021 5:23 pm

Courtesy: Aviation Week

GE Aviation’s Slattery On MAX Return, Widebodies And Sustainability

https://aviationweek.com/aerospace/aircraft-propulsion/ge-aviations-slattery-max-return-widebodies-sustainability

lightsaber · Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:29 pm

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CanukinUSA · Mon Jan 04, 2021 2:15 pm

Interesting article in Forbes on the 737 MAX saga at:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertzaff ... 792ce02134

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Revelation · Mon Jan 04, 2021 5:45 pm

As of today, there have been 27 #737MAX deliveries since the lifting of the @FAANews grounding.

Ref: https://twitter.com/AeroimagesChris/sta ... 5645850624

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Revelation · Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:39 pm

Jon Ostrower provides an article with interesting info suggesting MCAS was not needed at all, and if Boeing asked FAA for a waiver on the stick force requirement instead of developing MCAS then FAA would have evaluated that request and if accepted the whole tragedy may have been averted.

Ref: https://theaircurrent.com/aircraft-deve ... ax-at-all/

Note: The web site is normally pay walled but this article loaded completely for me and I am not a subscriber. You may need to visit his tweet at https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/ ... 4993566720 then click through to the article, I'm not sure.

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morrisond · Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:39 pm

Canada clears the MAX for RTS this Wednesday https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/boeing ... -1.5877356

morrisond · Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:59 pm

Transport Canada MAX AD. https://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/Saf-Sec-Sur/2/ ... ft=pdf&l=E

Spetsnaz55 · Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:51 pm

Max to be re certified by EASA next week

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... -next-week

KarlB737 · Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:21 pm

Courtesy: Airways Magazine

Canadian Return To Service Of The Boeing 737 MAX

https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/canadian-return-boeing-737-max/

northstardc4m · Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:43 pm

WJA115 YYC-YVR first MAX return to service in Canada

C-FHCM

https://www.flightradar24.com/WJA115/26a1071c

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 5#26a1071c

Westjet is going to have a couple weeks on Air Canada, who aren't flying them in service until Feb 1

CanukinUSA · Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:15 pm

Integration of 737 MAX Lessons learned underway. For article (behind Aviation Week paywall) go to;
https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/ ... b158439d4f

yyztpa2 · Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:10 pm

northstardc4m wrote:
WJA115 YYC-YVR first MAX return to service in Canada

C-FHCM

https://www.flightradar24.com/WJA115/26a1071c

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 5#26a1071c

Westjet is going to have a couple weeks on Air Canada, who aren't flying them in service until Feb 1

Whoops on misstart.
https://canadianaviationnews.wordpress. ... ationnews/

737maxfan · Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:28 pm

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n913ak

more good progress on 737 RTS , first Alaska Air Max delivery flight set for tomorrow Jan 24th.

CanukinUSA · Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:19 am

The Luftfahrt-Presse-Club (LPC) in conversation with EASA Executive Director Patrick Ky, moderated by LPC Board
(Boeing 737 MAX return to Service in Europe)
https://youtu.be/TSXkymyQ8wc

VS11 · Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:10 am

Boeing 737 MAX cleared to fly again ‘too early’

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55751150

KarlB737 · Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:00 pm

Courtesy: Airways Magazine

Alaska Airlines Takes Delivery of First Boeing 737 MAX 9

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/alaska-delivery-boeing-737-9-max/

Avgeek21 · Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:28 am

EASA approved the MAX for RTS. Same condition as Transport Canada by the looks of it. http://www.easa.europa.eu/newsroom-and- ... ice-europe

mxaxai · Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:47 pm

UK's CAA followed suit and also approved the MAX RTS today: https://www.caa.co.uk/News/UK-Civil-Avi ... o-service/

Revelation · Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:07 pm

Leeham quotes Boeing CEO Calhon regarding MAX approval by China:

“We’ve been progressing quite well” with recertifying the MAX in China, he said. Important trade issues must be resolved, he said.

Ref: https://leehamnews.com/2021/01/27/im-su ... oeing-ceo/

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PANAMsterdam · Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:24 pm

Dutch airspace reopened for 737 MAX

Link in Dutch: https://luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/cate ... ng-737-max

Revelation · Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:36 pm

Circum reports:

@Boeing's 737 Max steadily increases its operational footprint with nearly 120 flights now daily, across North and Latin America.

Ref: https://twitter.com/cirium/status/1355167094275534849

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Revelation · Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:38 pm

FG (article no longer paywalled) discusses how MAX10 will address some issues found during EASA's MCAS investigation, and in particular how it found issues in Boeing's design processes:

Its technical investigation during the Max recertification has revealed “several systemic issues” in Boeing’s aircraft design processes – which, says EASA, show that the methodological concerns surrounding the development of the controversial MCAS stabiliser-control system were “not an isolated case”.

The result has been a refreshment of Boeing’s safety-assessment and development-assurance processes which will be applied for the 737-10.

Ref: https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/boe ... 49.article

KarlB737 · Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:40 pm

Courtesy: Airways Magazine

Cayman Airways Resumes Flight Operations With The Boeing 737 MAX

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/cayman-airways-boeing-737-max/

bob75013 · Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:09 am

Southwest has loaded MAX flights into it's schedule starting March 11. It will operate 36 MAX flights that day. It should be pretty easy to identify them in the schedule as all flight numbers are 6000 series.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/southwest ... q3M5IQclgA

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