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ACATROYAL wrote:Wow excellent post. Extremely well organized and a great idea
Happy New Year
qf789 wrote:Timeline Q4 2019 (to be updated)
zeke wrote:What will the priority be, deliveries or productivity ramp up ?
Throughout the grounding of the 737 MAX, Boeing has continued to build new airplanes and there are now approximately 400 airplanes in storage. We have previously stated that we would continually evaluate our production plans should the MAX grounding continue longer than we expected. As a result of this ongoing evaluation, we have decided to prioritize the delivery of stored aircraft and temporarily suspend production on the 737 program beginning next month.
It did not specify the size of the payment but Turkey’s Hurriyet newspaper reported that it was worth $225 million including $150 million in compensation and $75 million covering things such as spare parts and training.
qf789 wrote:Delivered 737MAX breakdown (partially complete)
9 AIR
737MAX8
B-206J – stored at CAN since 11 Mar 19, last flight AQ1034 NKG-CAN on 10 Mar 19
AEROLINEAS ARGENTINAS
737MAX8
LV-GVD – stored at AEP since 9 Mar 19, last flight AR1411 MDZ-AEP on 8 Mar 19
LV-GVE – stored at EZE since 12 Mar 19, last flight AR1325 PUJ-EZE 11 on Mar 19
LV-HKU – stored at AEP since 12 Mar 19, last flight AR1273 FLN-AEP on 11 Mar 19
LV-HKV - stored at AEP since 12 Mar 19, last flight AR1477 TUC-AEP on 11 Mar 19
LV-HKW - stored at AEP since 12 Mar 19, last flight AR1867 REL-AEP on 11 Mar 19
AEROMEXICO
737MAX8
XA-MAG – stored at MEX since 12 Mar 19, last flight AM762 BOG-MEX on 11 Mar 19
XA-MAK - stored at MEX since 12 Mar 19, last flight AM927 MTY-MEX on 11 Mar 19
XA-MAO - stored at MEX since 12 Mar 19, last flight AM933 MTY-MEX on 11 Mar 19
XA-MAQ - stored at MEX since 12 Mar 19, last flight AM47 LIM-MEX on 11 Mar 19
XA-MAT - stored at MEX since 12 Mar 19, last flight AM957 MTY-MEX on 11 Mar 19
XA-SSR, previously registered XA-MAL, stored at MEX since 12 Mar 19, last flight AM929 MTY-MEX on 11 Mar 19
AIR CANADA
737MAX8
C-FSCY – stored at MZJ since 30 Sep 19, last commercial flight AC162 YEG-YYZ on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2353 YYZ-YQG on 14 Mar 19, positioned AC2354 YQG-YUL on 17 Sep 19, test flight AC2352/2353 YUL-YVO-YUL on 23 Sep 19, positioned AC2329 YUL-MZJ on 30 Sep 19
C-FSDB - stored at MZJ since 30 Sep 19, last commercial flight AC144 YYZ-YYC on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2350 YYC-YQG on 1 May 19, positioned AC2354 YQG-YUL on 26 Sep 19, positioned AC2339 YUL-MZJ on 30 Sep 19
C-FSDQ - stored at MZJ since 14 Oct 19, last commercial flight AC308 YVR-YUL on 12 Mar 19, positioned AC2351 YUL-YQG on 14 Mar 19, positioned AC2354 YQG-YUL on 10 Oct 19, positioned AC2352 YUL-MZJ on 14 Oct 19
C-FSDW - stored at MZJ since 21 Oct 19, last commercial flight AC200 YVR-YYC on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2350 YYC-YQG on 5 May 19, positioned AC2329 YQG-YUL on 17 Oct 19, positioned AC2359 YUL-MZJ on 21 Oct 19
C-FSEQ - stored at MZJ since 4 Nov 19, last commercial flight AC618 YYZ-YHZ on 12 Mar 19, positioned AC2351 YHZ-YQG on 5 May 19, positioned AC2354 YQG-YUL on 1 Nov 19, positioned AC2329 YUL-MZJ on 4 Nov 19
C-FSES - stored at MZJ since 22 Nov 19, last commercial flight AC311 YUL-YVR on 12 Mar 19, positioned AC7050 YVR-YWG on 14 Mar 19, positioned AC2350 YWG-YQG on 26 Apr 19, positioned AC2352 YQG-YUL on 21 Nov 19, positioned AC2359 YUL-MZJ on 22 Nov 19
C-FSIL - stored at MZJ since 22 Nov 19, last commercial flight AC205 YYC-YVR on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC7052 YVR-YWG on 14 Mar 19, positioned AC2352 YWG-YQG on 2 Oct 19, positioned AC2350 YQG-YUL on 18 Nov 19, positioned AC2339 YUL-MZJ on 22 Nov 19
C-FSIP - stored at MZJ since 9 Dec 19, last commercial flight AC761 YUL-SFO on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC7054 SFO-YHZ on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2351 YHZ-YQG on 28 Apr 19, positioned AC2352 YQG-YUL on 6 Dec 19, positioned AC2359 YUL-MZJ on 9 Dec 19
C-FSIQ - stored at MZJ since 24 Oct 19, last commercial flight AC935 ZIH-YVR on 12 Mar 19, positioned AC7058 YVR-YWG on 14 Mar 19, positioned AC2350 YWG-YQG on 17 Sep 19, positioned AC2354 YQG-YUL on 20 Oct 19, positioned AC2329 YUL-MZJ on 24 Oct 19
C-FSJH - stored at MZJ since 16 Dec 19, last commercial flight AC536 OGG-YVR on 12 Mar 19, positioned AC7060 YVR-YWG on 14 Mar 19, positioned AC2350 YWG-YQG on 17 Oct 19, positioned AC2352 YQG-YUL on 11 Dec 19, positioned AC2359 YUL-MZJ on 16 Dec 19
C-FSJJ - stored at YQG since 5 Dec 19, last commercial flight AC742 SFO-YYZ on 4 Mar 19, positioned AC2353 YYZ-YQG on 5 Mar 19, positioned AC2352 YQG-YYZ on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2328 YYZ-YRQ on 15 Mar 19, positioned AC2329 YRQ-YUL on 3 Oct 19, positioned AC2329 YUL-MZJ on 11 Oct 19, positioned AC2350 MZJ-YQG on 5 Dec 19
C-FSKZ - stored at YUL since 10 Dec 19, last commercial flight AC403 YUL-YYZ on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2325 YYZ-YRQ on 15 Mar 19, positioned AC2355 YRQ-YUL on 6 Oct 19, positioned AC2339 YUL-MZJ on 11 Oct 19, positioned AC2350 MZJ-YQG on 10 Dec 19, positioned AC8184 YQG-YUL on 10 Dec 19
C-FSLU - stored at MZJ since 11 Oct 19, last commercial flight AC797 YUL-LAX on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC7056 LAX-YWG on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2354 YWG-YUL on 4 Oct 19, positioned AC2359 YUL-MZJ on 11 Oct 19
C-FSNQ - stored at MZJ since 28 Oct 19, last commercial flight AC987 CUN-YYZ on 12 Mar 19, positioned AC2356 YYC-YQG on 17 Mar 19, positioned AC2351 YQG-YVR on 17 Mar 19, positioned AC2359 YVR-YUL on 25 Oct 19, positioned AC2339 YUL-MZJ on 28 Oct 19
C-FSNU - stored at MZJ since 18 Nov 19, last commercial flight AC122 YVR-YYZ on 12 Mar 19, positioned AC2353 YYZ-YQG on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2359 YQG-YVR on 18 Apr 19, positioned AC2350 YVR-YUL on 1 Nov 19, positioned AC2359 YUL-MZJ on 18 Nov 19
C-FSOC - stored at MZJ since 4 Dec 19, last commercial flight AC518 HNL-YVR on 12 Mar 19, positioned AC2358 YVR-YQG on 18 Apr 19, positioned AC2350 YQG-YUL on 26 Nov 19, positioned AC2359 YUL-MZJ on 4 Dec 19
C-FSOI - stored at MZJ since 21 Oct 19, last commercial flight AC920 YYZ-PBI on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC7071 PBI-YYZ on 13 Mar 19, positioned AC2329 YYZ-YRQ on 15 Mar 19, positioned AC235 YRG-YUL on 14 Oct 19, positioned AC2329 YUL-MZJ on 21 Oct 19
C-FTJV -
C-GEHI, C-GEHQ, C-GEHV, C-GEHY, C-GEJL
AIR CHINA
737MAX8 – B-1178, B-1179, B-1180, B-1220, B-1221, B-1222, B-1223, B-1225, B-1392, B-1393, B-1395, B-1396, B-1397, B-1398, B-1399. B-209K, B-209Q
AIR ITALY
737MAX8 – EI-GFY, EI-GGK, EI-GGL
AMERICAN AIRLINES
737MAX8 – N302SA, N303SE, N304RB, N306RC, N308RD, N310RD, N313SB, N314RH, N315RJ, N316RK, N321RL, N323RM, N324RA, N324RN, N326RP, N328RR, N335RT, N336RU, N338RS, N341RW, N342RX, N343RY, N350RV
CAYMAN AIRWAYS
737MAX8 – VP-CIW, VP-CIX
CHINA EASTERN AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B-1380, B-1383, B-1385
CHINA SOUTHERN AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B-1121, B-1122, B-1126, B-1127, B-1165, B-1166, B-1170, B-1175, B-1176, B-1200, B-1201, B-1202, B-1203, B-1205, B-1206, B-1207, B-1238, B-1295, B-205J, B-205K, B-205L, B-205M, B-205N, B-205P
COMAIR
737MAX8 – ZS-ZCA
COPA AIRLINES
737MAX9 – HP-9901CMP, HP-9902CMP, HP-9903CMP, HP-9904CMP, HP-9905CMP, HP-9906CMP
CORENDON AIRLINES
737MAX8 – TC-MKS
EASTER JET
737MAX8 – HL8340, HL8341
ENTER AIR
737MAX8 – SP-EXA, SP-EXB
ETHIOPIAN AIRLINES
737MAX8 – ET-AVI, ET-AVK, ET-AVL, ET-AVM
FIJI AIRWAYS
737MAX8 – DQ-FAB, DQ-FAD
FLYDUBAI
737MAX8 – A6-FMA, A6-FMB, A6-FMC, A6-FMD, A6-FME, A6-FMF, A6-FMG, A6-FMH, A6-FMI, A6-FMJ, A6-MAX
737MAX9 – A6-FNA, A6-FNB, A6-FNC
FUZHOU AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B-207C, B-207M
GARUDA INDONESIA
737MAX8 – PK-GDA
GECAS
737MAX8 – VT-JXA, VT-JXB, VT-JXC, VT-JXD, VT-JXF, VT-JXG, VT-JXH
GOL TRANSPORTES AEREOS
737MAX8 – PR-XMA, PR-XMB, PR-XMC, PR-XMD, PR-XME, PR-XMF, PR-XMG
HAINAN AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B-1100, B-1142, B-1387, B-1388, B-1389, B-1390, B-206Q, B-207H, B-207K, B-207S, B-207T
ICELANDAIR
737MAX8 – TC-ICE, TC-ICN, TC-ICO, TC-ICU, TC-ICY
737MAX9 – TF-ICA
KUNMING AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B206Y, B-206Z
LION AIR
737MAX8 – PK-LQF, PK-LQG, PK-LQH, PK-LQI, PK-LQJ, PK-LQK, PK-LQM, PK-LQO, PK-LQQ
LOT – POLISH AIRLINES
737MAX8 – SP-LVA, SP-LVB, SP-LVC, SP-LVD, SP-LVF
LUCKY AIR
737MAX8 – B-1143, B-206N, B-207P
MAURITANIA AIRLINES INTERNATIONAL
737MAX8 – 5T-CLJ
MIAT – MONGOLIAN AIRLINES
737MAX8 – EI-MNG
NORWEGIAN AIR INTERNATIONAL
737MAX8 – EI-FYA, EI-FYB, EI-FYC, EI-FYD, EI-FYE, EI-FYF, EI-FYG, EI-FYH, EI-FYI
NORWEGIAN AIR SHUTTLE
737MAX8 – LN-BKA, LN-BKB, LN-BKC
NORWEGIAN AIR SHUTTLE
737MAX8 – SE-RTA, SE-RTB, SE-RTC, SE-RYA, SE-RYB, SE-RYC
OKAY AIRWAYS
737MAX8 – B-1157, B-1485
OMAN AIR
737MAX8 – A4O-MA, A4O-MB, A4O-MC, A4O-MD, A4O-ME
ROYAL AIR MAROC
737MAX8 – CN-MAX, CN-MAY
S7 – SIBERIA AIRLINES
737MAX8 – VQ-BGV, VQ-BGW
SCAT AIRLINES
737MAX8 – UP-B3720
SHANDONG AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B-1120, B-1271, B-1275, B-205C, B-207F, B-208G, B-208N
SHANGHAI AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B-1149, B-1150, B-1152, B-1259, B-1260, B-1261, B-1263, B-1379, B-1381, B-1382, B-208M
SHENZHEN AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B-1146, B-1160, B-206M, B-207D, B-207E, B-208J, B-209V
SILKAIR
737MAX8 – 9V-MBA, 9V-MBB, 9V-MBC, 9V-MBD, 9V-MBE, 9V-MBF
SMARTWINGS
737MAX8 – OK-SWA, OK-SWB, OK-SWC, OK-SWD, OK-SWE, OK-SWF
SMBC AVIATION CAPITAL
737MAX8 – VT-JXE
SOUTHWEST AIRLINES
737MAX8 – N8701Q, N8702L, N8704Q, N8705Q, N8706W, N8707P, N2708Q, N8709Q, N8110M, N8711Q, N8712L, N8713M, N8714Q, N8715Q, N8716N, N8717M, N8718Q, N8719Q, N8720L, N8721J, N8722L, N8723Q, N8724J, N8725L, N8726H, N8727M, N8728Q, N8729H, N8730Q, N8731J, N8732S, N8733M, N8734Q, N8735L
SPICEJET
737MAX8 – VT-MAX, VT-MXA, VT-MXB, VT-MXC, VT-MXD, VT-MXE, VT-MXF, VT-MXG, VT-MXH, VT-MXI, VT-MXJ, VT-MXK, VT-MXX
SUNWING AIRLINES
737MAX8 – C-FAXD, C-FMXA, C-FYXC, C-GMXB
THAI LION AIR
737MAX9 – HS-LSH, HS-LSI, HS-LSK
TUI AIRLINES BELGIUM
737MAX8 – OO-MAX, OO-TMA, OO-TMB, OO-TMY
TUI AIRLINES NETHERLANDS
737MAX8 – PH-TFN, PH-TFO, PH-TFP
TUI AIRWAYS
737MAX8 – G-TUMA, G-TUMB, G-TUMC, G-TUMD, C-TUMF, G-TUMG,
TUIFLY NORDIC
737MAX8 – SE-RNA, SE-RNB
TURKISH AIRLINES
737MAX8 – TC-LCA, TC-LCB, TC-LCC, TC-LCD, TC-LCE, TC-LCF, TC-LCG, TC-LCJ, TC-LCK, TC-LCL, TC-LCM
737MAX9 – TC-LYA
UNITED AIRLINES
737MAX9 – N27503, N27509, N27511, N37502. N37504, N37506, N37507, N37508, N37510, N37513, N37514, N47505, N47512, N67501
WESTJET
737MAX8 – C-FCTK, C-FHCM, C-FNAX, C-FNWD, C-FRAX, C-FRYV, C-GAMQ, C-GCAM, C-GGDDE, C-GEHF, C-GRAX, C-GXAX, C-GZSG
XIAMEN AIRLINES
737MAX8 – B-1116, B-1117, B-1118, B-1136, B-1137, B-1139, B-1288, B-1289, B-1290, B-208L
qf789 wrote:Production 737MAX breakdown
ALASKA AIRLINES
737MAX8
N913AK – stored at MWH
N918AK – production testing
737MAX9
N915AK – stored at SKF
qf789 wrote:Delivered 737MAX breakdown (partially complete)
WESTJET
737MAX8 – C-FCTK, C-FHCM, C-FNAX, C-FNWD, C-FRAX, C-FRYV, C-GAMQ, C-GCAM, C-GGDDE, C-GEHF, C-GRAX, C-GXAX, C-GZSG
zeke wrote:Will they going to use the factory workers to get some of the stored aircraft compliant ?
The first wave of reassignment notices went out to employees Monday, informing some workers on the 737 jet program in the Puget Sound region that they will be temporarily transferred to the 767 and 777 programs in Everett.
Other Renton workers will be sent to Moses Lake in Central Washington, where more than 200 completed but undelivered MAXs are currently parked for long-term storage. And some will go to Victorville, Calif., which Boeing has newly designated as another MAX storage site.
Assembly line mechanics and engineers will work at those locations on maintaining the parked aircraft. Then, as soon as regulators give clearance for the MAX to fly again, they’ll do the extensive lubrication and systems testing necessary before the jets can return to flight.
.The FAA is proceeding slowly and flight testing is going at a snail’s pace, LNA is told. Only one airplane has been authorized for flight testing by the FAA. This compares with three or four normally used by Boeing for tests of this nature
With all these factors casting continued uncertainty over the recertification of the MAX, restarting production appears highly unlikely though March—90 days from now. Internally, Boeing so far doesn’t see production restarting through February.
XRAYretired wrote:These are not the Boeing internal emails you are looking for. Go about your business.
https://seekingalpha.com/article/431611 ... ed-737-max
For reference.
Ray
According to our information, these layoffs are notably related to the 737 MAX 8 manufactured by Boeing, one of the principal clients of the enterprise.
Rustbelt wrote:Not sure if this belongs here but no severance for ex-CEO.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/10/ex-boei ... rture.html
Calhoun kicked off his new job with a 13 January letter to all Boeing staff in which he lays out priorities and promises to improve the company’s transparency and commitment to safety.
“We have work to do to uphold our values and to build on our strengths. I see greatness in this company, but I also see opportunities to be better,” Calhoun’s letter says. “That includes engaging one another and our stakeholders with greater transparency, holding ourselves accountable to the highest standards of safety and quality and incorporating outside-in perspective on what we do and how we do it.”
Indonesia’s Lion Air considered putting its pilots through simulator training before flying the Boeing Co. 737 Max but abandoned the idea after the planemaker convinced them in 2017 it was unnecessary, according to people familiar with the matter and internal company communications.
Boeing likely faces an extended timeline to clear its inventory of 400 737 MAXes. LNA estimates it will be well into 2022 before these new-production airplanes are delivered to customers.
ShamrockBoi330 wrote:AA pushes RTS out to June
MAX taken off American Air schedules through June 3
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3531747?source=ansh
PhilMcCrackin wrote:birdbrainz wrote:Has anyone noticed that (according to flightaware) one of AC's MAX 8's flew from Marana to Windsor, ON today.
Seems odd unless there's a glimmer of hope something good is finally happening. I know I'm reaching. Why would they want to do this?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/ACA2350/history/20200116/1715Z/KMZJ/CYQG
Also interesting it was flying at FL270. One would think they'd cruise higher if it's empty.
I noticed that too, looks like one flew YUL-MZJ today, too. My guess would be bringing them back for scheduled maintenance.