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Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:20 am

Happy new year everyone. Thought I create a new Manchester thread for the new year.

Lots of things to look forward to, including the new route from Birman Bangladesh airlines that is due to start in just a few days (January 4, 2020),a return of Delta in May and much more!

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:23 am

Link to previous thread:

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:17 pm

"Any clue what will happen to the 757 rated pilots based at Manchester once the 757’s have gone? I assume they’ll go to the 737 fleet."
Don`t assume anything, only a few B757 are going for a while and A321 are coming to the fleet so plenty of wriggle room yet ( pun intended)
no more brand new B738 so only second hand to come when and where they can get them
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 1:47 pm

Manchester Statistics - November 2019

Introduction

No new destinations were included in November.

Million passenger routes (Rolling annual figures)
Amsterdam - 1,062,610 passengers

The following domestic statistics are missing from the CAA report for November.
Glasgow whose total passengers, in 2018, totaled 4,176

Moving monthly and annual figures - based on MAG statistics
Manchester Airport's November statistics
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Top 25 destinations - by passenger numbers
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Top destinations with highest percentage increase.
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Figures for the European and long-haul destinations that I consider to be the main points for our connecting traffic.
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Istanbul figures are affected by the start of the Pegasus service to Sabiha Gokcen airport. The combined figures for both airports gives an increase of 50.5% over the same month last year.

Comparison of top 29 destinations - November 2009 versus November 2019
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Major changes to Domestic traffic
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:29 pm

A very happy New Year and welcome to MANTP Update #122 courtesy, as always, of the MANTP Team.

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:24 pm

An interesting article on GSTP regarding the rumour BA will launch long haul routes in the future:

https://www.godsavethepoints.com/rumour ... l-flights/

Even if it happens to spite Virgin, it’s the customer who wins at the end. Will be interesting to when/if this comes to fruition.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:25 am

The relaunch of Biman's service today. In what appears to be it's 1st revenue flight, B789 S2-AJY is operating BBC7 - running late though, was due 6pm now around 7pm.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:43 pm

David_itl wrote:
The relaunch of Biman's service today. In what appears to be it's 1st revenue flight, B789 S2-AJY is operating BBC7 - running late though, was due 6pm now around 7pm.


What was the scheduled arrival time supposed to be David?
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:37 pm

David_itl wrote:
The relaunch of Biman's service today. In what appears to be it's 1st revenue flight, B789 S2-AJY is operating BBC7 - running late though, was due 6pm now around 7pm.


Great start.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 3:44 pm

MANMatthew wrote:
David_itl wrote:
The relaunch of Biman's service today. In what appears to be it's 1st revenue flight, B789 S2-AJY is operating BBC7 - running late though, was due 6pm now around 7pm.


Great start.



Appears high winds flowing from Siberia towards Europe has enabled significant recovery and right now an onetime arrival is actually being predicted !
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 4:23 pm

Expected to touchdown around 18:08
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:56 pm

It's virtually made up the initial 75 minute delay then.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:10 pm

258 pax inbound I read on another site which is very good
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 10:33 pm

297 outbound according to Airport app.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 05, 2020 11:09 pm

An article referring to Biman’s stated intention to use MAN as a fifth freedom middle point to operate to New York and Toronto.

https://simpleflying.com/biman-bangladesh-new-york/
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:55 am

Cathay Pacific changes in May. Reducing to 6 weekly (non-operational on Wednesday) but the weekends see the A350-1000. Back to daily 1st June and the A350-1000s will then be daily until 31st August

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/288623/cathay-pacific-ns20-long-haul-changes-as-of-08jan20/
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:09 pm

I'd have thought that the CX reduction to 6 x weekly is because of the on going disputes in Hong Kong?
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 11, 2020 3:24 pm

Maybe but why only May and not from February/March inwards if it's to do with what's going on.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:18 am

EasyJet will add 2 more aircraft to its Manchester base.

With this it will add new routes to Rome FCO, Mahon and Sharm El Sheikh.

Routes such as Dalaman, Antalya, Paris, Marrakesh and Pisa also see increases.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:17 pm

MANTP Update #123 is now available, courtesy of the MANTP Team

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:52 am

WestJet to launch Halifax to Manchester from June 2020. 4x weekly.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 22, 2020 9:32 am

Correndon will add scheduled flights to Manchester this summer, with a weekly Dalaman flight from 2nd June. They have offered bi-weekly Marrakesh flights for the past 2 winters but this is the first scheduled flight.

Flybe will add 5 weekly flights to its Newquay route, making 18 weekly all together.

Qatar introduce the Q suite to 2 of the 3 daily flights, and upgrade to the B77W on both flights too.

Jet2 add more flights to Palma, Dalaman, Tenerife and Antalya.

Ryanair have announced 3 new routes for Summer 2020. Daily Copenhagen, 4 weekly Paris BVA and 2 weekly Kerry. Also increase Shannon to 6 weekly.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:27 pm

Slightly belatedly please find Update #124 courtesy of the MANTP Team towhom full credit is given:

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:19 pm

These updates really need linking. Completely unnecessary.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 4:28 pm

MANMatthew wrote:
These updates really need linking. Completely unnecessary.



Moaning here as well ?

Scottie provides far more relevant useful and indeed interesting information than many much most of the visitors !
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 5:45 pm

Thank you Scottiedog for the updates - it is interesting to see how far it is along.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:16 pm

There will be some interesting football charter flights next month, with GainJet taking Manchester City to Madrid for the first leg of the Champions League round of 16 against Real Madrid. There will be more flights by Enter Air, Vueling, JOTA Aviation and Jet2:

https://championsleaguecharters.blogspo ... pions.html
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:34 pm

SueD wrote:
MANMatthew wrote:
These updates really need linking. Completely unnecessary.



Moaning here as well ?

Scottie provides far more relevant useful and indeed interesting information than many much most of the visitors !


^----^ this..I sadly moved away from the UK (BHX area) 17 years ago, so am not as in tune as i used to be, so i find these updates along with the general goings-on very informative. Keep it up.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 8:33 pm

MANMatthew wrote:
These updates really need linking. Completely unnecessary.

No
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:40 pm

Likewise, I moved away from the area (BHX) many years ago (into the US & miss the UK more than I would like to say), all posters & their content are valued. MANMatthew, and this is not to berate you in anyway, but please understand, these forums keep ex-pats in-touch (you have to be one, to fully understand I guess) and reading/viewing something more than once, is not an issue.
Keep flying guys, we are (unfortunately) going into a difficult time with this coronavirus outbreak, which will affect travel enormously and from the precautions being taken in China, are most likely even more serious than we have been told todate. Anyway,
Best wishes to all.

VS4ever wrote:
SueD wrote:
MANMatthew wrote:
These updates really need linking. Completely unnecessary.



Moaning here as well ?

Scottie provides far more relevant useful and indeed interesting information than many much most of the visitors !


^----^ this..I sadly moved away from the UK (BHX area) 17 years ago, so am not as in tune as i used to be, so i find these updates along with the general goings-on very informative. Keep it up.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:50 pm

Manchester Statistics - December 2019

Introduction
One new destination was included in December. This was Bacau (Romania) with 214 passengers

Million passenger routes (Rolling annual figures)
Amsterdam - 1,064,910 passengers
Dublin – 1,000,584 passengers
Dubai – 1,002,656

The following domestic statistics are missing from the CAA report for December.
No data is missing

Moving monthly and annual figures - based on MAG statistics
Manchester Airport's December statistics
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Top 25 destinations - by passenger numbers
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Top destinations with highest percentage increase.
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Figures for the European and long-haul destinations that I consider to be the main points for our connecting traffic.
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Istanbul figures are affected by the start of the Pegasus service to Sabiha Gokcen airport. The combined figures for both airports gives an increase of 56.5% over the same month last year.

Comparison of top 31 destinations - November 2009 versus November 2019
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Major changes to Domestic traffic
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Load factors analysis on certain routes
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Calculations are based of FlightRadar24 for days of flight operation, Planespotter.net for Seat Plans and CAA data for monthly figures.
Please remember when looking at these figures that they only reflect passengers per flight. One needs to take into account that Addis Ababa and Houston/Singapore are destinations which are part of a route that serves not just Manchester but another city enroute.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:35 am

Slightly belatedly here is MANTP Update #125 courtesy of the MANTP Team to whom full credit is given - if you're not interested please just skip on to the next post!!

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You will notice a reference to taxiway November-Bravo, however I believe this should read taxiway Juliet
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 12:00 pm

Scottiedog wrote:
Slightly belatedly here is MANTP Update #125 courtesy of the MANTP Team to whom full credit is given - if you're not interested please just skip on to the next post!!

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You will notice a reference to taxiway November-Bravo, however I believe this should read taxiway Juliet


Hi Scottiedog - appreciate the effort you go to uploading these pics but based on what others have said on here, I think the general consensus is that people would prefer to have them in a link. Is that possible please? I just don't think there are significant enough changes to justify uploading new pics every week or so. But for those that want to see it, they can just click on the link. Many thanks and hope you understand.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:35 pm

As sure as Spring follows Winter then Update #126 follows #125.

Full credit to the MANTP team for supplying the file:

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 1:42 pm

From 8herveg
Hi Scottiedog - appreciate the effort you go to uploading these pics but based on what others have said on here, I think the general consensus is that people would prefer to have them in a link. Is that possible please? I just don't think there are significant enough changes to justify uploading new pics every week or so. But for those that want to see it, they can just click on the link. Many thanks and hope you understand.


I appreciate your comment however I'm not that computer savvy to know how to produce a link from my own computer.

I receive the file as a pdf attachment and then screenshot each picture within the file. If some kind soul could explain to me how to construct a link then I'd be happy to look at a alternative method of posting the updates.

Can I therefore leave it to those on the forum to provide an answer? The alternative of course is that I just stop my posts but then those who find the information of interest will miss out. As they say "You can't please all of the people all of the time".
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:07 pm

I live in the greater manchester area and suddenly my facebook, youtube and social media is being flooded by Wizzair ads. Are they starting MAN?
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:54 pm

Had the almighty displeasure of departing MAN last Sunday, due only to the fact that MAG security is absolutely horrendous .
Swipe thru the entrance to security in T3 at 11:30, and finally managed to get out the other side at 12:10. Totally understaffed, many lanes closed.Staff in what looked like a could give a toss attitude.... A truly terrible experience for the passenger.
T3 was like it has always been... barely adequate .. passengers struggling to get passed each other on the FR pier.
Not the cleanest ....
It really needs to be addressed by MAG.

Is T3 soon to be upgraded..? Demolished..?

Would recommend avoiding the place , in similar fashion to Wuhan.

Awful experience all round.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 1:07 am

With the expanded JV between VS/DL/AF/KL in place, I would love to see either VS or DL do a flight to the western half of America between either MAN-SLC or SEA.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:11 pm

SEU wrote:
I live in the greater manchester area and suddenly my facebook, youtube and social media is being flooded by Wizzair ads. Are they starting MAN?


They've been serving LPL for a long time now and Greater Manchester falls within LPL's catchment area.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:33 pm

Would recommend avoiding the place , in similar fashion to Wuhan


So, you put T3 and Wuhan in the same category for avoidance.

One you could contract a deadly virus, the other you might be mildly inconvenienced for 2 hours of your life.

Yes, totally rational comparason right there!
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:15 pm

Statistics are now available courtesy of the airport's press office.

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The reduction in domestic passengers, on top of the continuing Thomas Cook 'effect' have left a negative figure but, under the circumstances, it could have been far worse.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:55 pm

SEU wrote:
I live in the greater manchester area and suddenly my facebook, youtube and social media is being flooded by Wizzair ads. Are they starting MAN?

Doubtful but they are boosting Liverpool services, and as has been said Greater Manchester falls under the Liverpool airport catchment area. I can't see Wizz starting MAN anytime soon, as they're currently very happy and doing well out of LPL.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:21 pm

Luftymatt wrote:
SEU wrote:
I live in the greater manchester area and suddenly my facebook, youtube and social media is being flooded by Wizzair ads. Are they starting MAN?

Doubtful but they are boosting Liverpool services, and as has been said Greater Manchester falls under the Liverpool airport catchment area. I can't see Wizz starting MAN anytime soon, as they're currently very happy and doing well out of LPL.


LPL also fits with their model of ULCC, like LTN does. MAN would be a bit of a departure from this so to speak. Never say Never of course. Stranger things have happened, but I believe what has been said thus far is correct.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:26 pm

Not suggesting Wizz are coming to MAN but to say they focus on airports such as LPL and LTN to fit their ULCC model isn't quite correct anymore.

They serve LGW, MAD, BCN, NCE, BRU, TLV and until March, FRA amongst others. Those are not small, cheap LCC only airports.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:26 pm

HNLSLCPDX wrote:
With the expanded JV between VS/DL/AF/KL in place, I would love to see either VS or DL do a flight to the western half of America between either MAN-SLC or SEA.


They are flying to LAX and LAS from MAN.

VS have stated that the acquisition of FlyBe and the demise amid thomas cook is driving them towards further expansion at MAN albeit VS have fleet issues that are likely to remain for at least 18 months and the acquisition of FlyBe does not currently appear to be working out for anyone.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:34 pm

Juneyao Airlines have pushed back the start of PVG-HEL-MAN to 27/04/20
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:03 pm

As nobody has suggested how I can place these as a link I'll continue to post a slightly cutdown version of the full update.

MANTP Update #127 courtesy of the MANTP team

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 11, 2020 4:30 pm

From Airlineroutes
Ethiopian Airlines S20 European aircraft changes as of 10FEB20
Posted 11 February 2020 09:00

Ethiopian Airlines this week filed aircraft changes for selected European service, for summer 2020 season. Planned adjustment as follows.

Addis Ababa – Brussels – Manchester eff 28MAR20 787-9 operates 4 weekly, instead of 3 weekly -8 and 1 weekly -9
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 18, 2020 9:48 pm

Does anyone know if Lufthansa have started their extra daily flight to Munich, and if not when they plane to start it? It seems like a long time ago that it was announced.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:13 pm

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Does anyone know if Lufthansa have started their extra daily flight to Munich, and if not when they plane to start it? It seems like a long time ago that it was announced.


It is already operating, and does so year round.

In other news, Ethiopian have stated they intend to increase Manchester capacity. Currently ET run ADD-BRU-MAN 4 weekly and ADD-BRU-DUB 3 weekly. The latter is now going via Vienna and it’s looking like slots are going in for daily ADD-BRU-MAN with B789.

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