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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:06 am

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... ster-move/

Interesting comments by Bob Schumacher from United Airlines about Thomas Cook's pricing on their former MAN-JFK route which not only indicates why prices have been what they are for some of the routes they used to serve, it also indicates why that capacity hasn't necessarily been replaced like-for-like. I had no idea Thomas Cook accounted for about a third of the total available capacity between MAN and New York, though some of that would have made up for the loss of AA when they pulled their JFK flight.

It also suggests they are waiting for prices to "stabilise" before making their next move from MAN.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:37 am

Interesting article, and it at least shows that they're considering MAN for possible expansion. UA are incredibly slow to upgrade or add anything to the MAN market I'd given up thinking that they ever would. Strange really considering how well their EWR service does out of MAN.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm

One could argue Thomas Cook, as much of a blessing on some routes, hindered a lot of US services too.now, one could argue the following examples had other factors at play such as mergers, but, when you align the events up, you see a pattern.

Around the time TCX started building up, United went down to 1 daily B757 (EWR) after many years of either a wide body or 2 daily (2 daily EWR/1 each to EWR and IAD). Once TCX went, EWR was suddenly thrust up to a B767 once again. Schumacher even states the Business cabin does very well from Manchester, but that TCX was undercutting and an issue.
We now have a situation where Washington could come back, add Chicago or even look as far as San Fransisco of the numbers work.

American ran Chicago for 25+ years, but around the time TCX was ramping up, they started really letting the ORD route go, with poor OtP, back to seasonal, regular cancellations and so on. One could argue TCX doing more MCO and LAS, while adding SEA/SFO/LAX creamed off a lot of their connection markets to the point they just couldn’t be bothered fighting anymore. There are rumblings AA are once again re-evaluating the route, and again, conincidence that this comes now TCX are gone.

Virgin are looking to make a hub at Manchester, and that means we really need VS to add into the route network. But we then had a situation where TCX ran VS off the SFO route, as well as VS shrinking on Las Vegas (VS ran it year round, up to 4 weekly, but when TCX ramped LAS up, it went back to seasonal and 2 weekly). While I can’t prove it on here, there are suggestions VS was also looking at Seattle, but out of no where, MT announced it (coincidence?).
Now LAS being bulked back up, as is MCO, JFK and BGI. Delta is now taking on Boston going up to Daily too, another former TCX route. And when did this bulk up happen, yep, after TCX went!

One could argue VS is/was better for the US routes than TCX. It had the premium cabin, the Delta joint venture and now the clubhouse and hub aspiration.

So, was TCX a blessing or a hinderance from Manchester? There is no doubt they put a few good routes on the map, but would those routes have come along anyway? Is it just a pure coincidence the USB3 And VS cut back as TCX grew but now appear to be bulking back up now TCX have gone? Is it fair to say there is a better airline to have on a route (higher yielding carriers such as UA and DL/VS rather than lower yielding TCX)?

It looks like the next few years could be interesting to watch. Yes, we lost Thomas Cook. But, passenger numbers already seem to be recovered, new and existing airlines filling the gaps (both long and short haul) and a fightback beginning.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 20, 2020 3:38 pm

To those who wish to continue to follow the MANTP Updates can I suggest the following link which will take you to Update #128.

https://forums4airports.com/threads/4319/page-56

Should the moderators not appreciate the linking to another site then I will return with my full updates on here.

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 am

Virgin are launching 3x weekly seasonal MAN-Delhi https://twitter.com/SeanM1997/status/12 ... 66112?s=20
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:40 am

Ethiopian are going direct from 1st July. B787-9 used.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:52 am

Virgin has announced a seasonal Delhi route https://twitter.com/VirginAtlantic/stat ... 16608?s=19
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:18 am

David_itl wrote:
Virgin has announced a seasonal Delhi route https://twitter.com/VirginAtlantic/stat ... 16608?s=19


I assume the AF/KLM tie up (either code share or in FF programmes) doesn't apply to non-transatlantic routes?
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:42 pm

Manchester Statistics – January 2020

Introduction

One new destination was included in January. This was Dacca with 4,762 passengers

Million passenger routes (Rolling annual figures)


Amsterdam - 1,067,180 passengers
Dublin – 1,001,815 passengers
Dubai – 1,004,652 passengers

The following domestic statistics are missing from the CAA report for January.


Guernsey are still to report – passengers in January 2019 were 3,243

Moving monthly and annual figures - based on MAG statistics


Manchester Airport's January statistics
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Top 25 destinations - by passenger numbers
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Top destinations with highest percentage increase.
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Figures for the European and long-haul destinations that I consider to be the main points for our connecting traffic.
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Istanbul figures are affected by the start of the Pegasus service to Sabiha Gokcen airport. The combined figures for both airports gives an increase of 61.43% over the same month last year.

Comparison of top 25 destinations – January 2000 versus January 2020

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Major changes to Domestic traffic
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Load factors analysis on certain routes
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Calculations are based of FlightRadar24 for days of flight operation, Planespotter.net for Seat Plans and CAA data for monthly figures.

Please remember when looking at these figures that they only reflect passengers per flight. One needs to take into account that Addis Ababa and Houston/Singapore are destinations which are part of a route that serves not just Manchester but another city enroute.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:51 pm

 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:57 pm

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It’s a start to the promised hub (the DEL-MAN leg connects okay to MAN-JFK) but it is clearly in its infancy - hubs are not made by 3x weekly seasonal services.

It breaks VS at MAN away from the well trodden path of TATL flying, setting a precedent for possible future routes to BOM, JNB, CPT, PEK, PVG and TYO - if this goes well it could be seen as a starter for ten.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 26, 2020 5:07 pm

For BOM and DEL they will have to attract transfer traffic (and/or grow the local market - typically stimulated by a direct service) if they want a daily service - see link and analysis below.

“According to preliminary figures from Sabre Market Intelligence, Mumbai was the largest O&D market between Manchester and India in 2019 with 86,300 two-way passengers. Delhi was second with 57,300 passengers.”

DEL - 57,300 per year = 78.5 PPDEW

BOM - 86,300 per year = 118.2 PPDEW

https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... nchester-/
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 26, 2020 8:47 pm

For those interested the latest MANTP update - #129 - is now available at:

https://forums4airports.com/threads/4319/page-56
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:24 pm

When will the new terminal open?
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 6:42 pm

The first phase is scheduled to open on 1st July.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 01, 2020 11:08 am

Scottiedog wrote:
The first phase is scheduled to open on 1st July.

Thanks!
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:00 pm

Blue Islands announce multiple daily flights between Exeter and Mancheter, to take over the gap left by Flybe.
https://www.blueislands.com/flying-with ... 142iUWP6Vk
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:02 am

Another ex Flybe route taken up, so thats SOU,ABZ, EDI and EXT with hopefully subjet to Coronavirus LUX so that leaves BHD, IOM, JER and NQY as the main routes needed, CDG and AMS can be swallowed up by KLM and AF
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:07 am

Mullion wrote:
Another ex Flybe route taken up, so thats SOU,ABZ, EDI and EXT with hopefully subjet to Coronavirus LUX so that leaves BHD, IOM, JER and NQY as the main routes needed, CDG and AMS can be swallowed up by KLM and AF


I'm surprised BlueIslands haven't announced MAN-JER yet. They flew that route for years pre-FlyBe.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:15 am

Mullion wrote:
Another ex Flybe route taken up, so thats SOU,ABZ, EDI and EXT with hopefully subjet to Coronavirus LUX so that leaves BHD, IOM, JER and NQY as the main routes needed, CDG and AMS can be swallowed up by KLM and AF


Who is taking up LUX?

Also, now that Flybe is no longer and being taken up by these other regional carriers, does that mean that there won’t be any connections onto the VS services from MAN? Or will they offer codeshares do you think? If not, will VS be taking a hit?
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 13, 2020 8:24 am

VS will no doubt be relooking their plans I'd suspect. Though they may go into partnership with LM (who've just announced a partnership with KLM) on the Scottish routes which provide a lot of custom especially on the MCO route
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:08 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
Mullion wrote:
Another ex Flybe route taken up, so thats SOU,ABZ, EDI and EXT with hopefully subjet to Coronavirus LUX so that leaves BHD, IOM, JER and NQY as the main routes needed, CDG and AMS can be swallowed up by KLM and AF


I'm surprised BlueIslands haven't announced MAN-JER yet. They flew that route for years pre-FlyBe.


They won't go up against Easyjet, the reason they pulled MAN back around 9 or 10 years ago was that Easyjet started Liverpool - Jersey. Never say never though, but I think a few carriers are waiting to see if EZY ups frequency on the JER route from 3 times a week first.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:50 am

Double post.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:23 pm

For those interested in the MANTP project please use the link below.

https://forums4airports.com/threads/4319/page-56
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:42 pm

Scottiedog wrote:
For those interested in the MANTP project please use the link below.

https://forums4airports.com/threads/4319/page-56


Thanks for sharing, it’s looking really good!
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 24, 2020 1:23 am

Read on twitter that all flights are consolidating at terminal 1 for the time being.
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:22 pm

4 new updates for the MANTP project are available at:

https://forums4airports.com/threads/4319/page-56
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:14 pm

Anyone know about the military planes on finals now?
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:46 pm

MANMatthew wrote:
Anyone know about the military planes on finals now?


Never mind, answered it myself. Another C-17 on training.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:46 pm

Just to say that there are no MANTP updates available at present.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 12:29 pm

Lots of silence on this thread as the aviation industry has shut down due to Coronavirus.

Some green shoots of recovery as a number of airlines prepare to hopefully restart flying from June / July, but there remains a significant degree of uncertainty (not least the balancing act between reopening the economy including restrictions on movement and the importance of preventing a second spike).

If Virgin Atlantic survives this, they have announced their 2020 and 2021, programme from Manchester.

Details are below, the headline points are that the B744s are gone, Delhi will not be launched, and Las Vegas is cancelled. Los Angeles survives, and if VS themselves are still flying in 2023 MAN should be well placed to benefit from any growth from VS.


Winter 2020/2021

Manchester – Atlanta eff 26OCT20 A330-300 replaces 747-400, 3 weekly

Manchester – Bridgetown eff 29OCT20 A330-200 replaces A330/747-400, 3 weekly

Manchester – Delhi Planned new 3 weekly A330-200 service from 26OCT20 cancelled

Manchester – New York JFK eff 25OCT20 1 daily A330-200 replaces 6 weekly 747-400 and 1 weekly A330-200

Manchester – Orlando eff 25OCT20 A330-300 replaces 747-400, 1 daily




Summer 2021

Manchester – Bridgetown eff 29MAR21 Increase from 3 weekly in S20 to 4 weekly, A330-200 operating

Manchester – Delhi Planned 3 weekly service cancelled (This route will not be offered as planned from late-October 2020)

Manchester – Las Vegas Seasonal 6 weekly service cancelled

Manchester – Los Angeles eff 28MAR21 A330-300 replaces A330-200 in S20, 3 weekly

Manchester – New York JFK eff 28MAR21 A330-300 replaces -200, 1 daily

Manchester – Orlando eff 28MAR21 12 weekly A330-200/-300 replaces 747-400/A330-300 in S20
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 3:06 pm

DobboDobbo wrote:
Lots of silence on this thread as the aviation industry has shut down due to Coronavirus.

Some green shoots of recovery as a number of airlines prepare to hopefully restart flying from June / July, but there remains a significant degree of uncertainty (not least the balancing act between reopening the economy including restrictions on movement and the importance of preventing a second spike).

If Virgin Atlantic survives this, they have announced their 2020 and 2021, programme from Manchester.

Details are below, the headline points are that the B744s are gone, Delhi will not be launched, and Las Vegas is cancelled. Los Angeles survives, and if VS themselves are still flying in 2023 MAN should be well placed to benefit from any growth from VS.


Winter 2020/2021

Manchester – Atlanta eff 26OCT20 A330-300 replaces 747-400, 3 weekly

Manchester – Bridgetown eff 29OCT20 A330-200 replaces A330/747-400, 3 weekly

Manchester – Delhi Planned new 3 weekly A330-200 service from 26OCT20 cancelled

Manchester – New York JFK eff 25OCT20 1 daily A330-200 replaces 6 weekly 747-400 and 1 weekly A330-200

Manchester – Orlando eff 25OCT20 A330-300 replaces 747-400, 1 daily




Summer 2021

Manchester – Bridgetown eff 29MAR21 Increase from 3 weekly in S20 to 4 weekly, A330-200 operating

Manchester – Delhi Planned 3 weekly service cancelled (This route will not be offered as planned from late-October 2020)

Manchester – Las Vegas Seasonal 6 weekly service cancelled

Manchester – Los Angeles eff 28MAR21 A330-300 replaces A330-200 in S20, 3 weekly

Manchester – New York JFK eff 28MAR21 A330-300 replaces -200, 1 daily

Manchester – Orlando eff 28MAR21 12 weekly A330-200/-300 replaces 747-400/A330-300 in S20


What about Manchester - Atlanta in Summer 2021?
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 3:14 pm

SeanM1997 wrote:
DobboDobbo wrote:
Lots of silence on this thread as the aviation industry has shut down due to Coronavirus.

Some green shoots of recovery as a number of airlines prepare to hopefully restart flying from June / July, but there remains a significant degree of uncertainty (not least the balancing act between reopening the economy including restrictions on movement and the importance of preventing a second spike).

If Virgin Atlantic survives this, they have announced their 2020 and 2021, programme from Manchester.

Details are below, the headline points are that the B744s are gone, Delhi will not be launched, and Las Vegas is cancelled. Los Angeles survives, and if VS themselves are still flying in 2023 MAN should be well placed to benefit from any growth from VS.


Winter 2020/2021

Manchester – Atlanta eff 26OCT20 A330-300 replaces 747-400, 3 weekly

Manchester – Bridgetown eff 29OCT20 A330-200 replaces A330/747-400, 3 weekly

Manchester – Delhi Planned new 3 weekly A330-200 service from 26OCT20 cancelled

Manchester – New York JFK eff 25OCT20 1 daily A330-200 replaces 6 weekly 747-400 and 1 weekly A330-200

Manchester – Orlando eff 25OCT20 A330-300 replaces 747-400, 1 daily




Summer 2021

Manchester – Bridgetown eff 29MAR21 Increase from 3 weekly in S20 to 4 weekly, A330-200 operating

Manchester – Delhi Planned 3 weekly service cancelled (This route will not be offered as planned from late-October 2020)

Manchester – Las Vegas Seasonal 6 weekly service cancelled

Manchester – Los Angeles eff 28MAR21 A330-300 replaces A330-200 in S20, 3 weekly

Manchester – New York JFK eff 28MAR21 A330-300 replaces -200, 1 daily

Manchester – Orlando eff 28MAR21 12 weekly A330-200/-300 replaces 747-400/A330-300 in S20


What about Manchester - Atlanta in Summer 2021?


Yeah - I wondered that.

Best guess is that it is either an omission or nothing has changed from that planned for S20 (hence it not being reported). It would be an enormous surprise for that to be dropped ahead of other routes so I strongly suspect the explanation is one of those points above.

Good to see LAX with the A333 and a longer season. Keeping that (plus VS in general*) through an apocalyptic downturn strikes me as a very good outcome for MAN.

*assuming VS themselves survive.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 3:18 pm

Their PR piece https://corporate.virginatlantic.com/gb/en/media/press-releases/summer-2021-flying-schedule.html does state:


Flying from Manchester:

Atlanta
Barbados
Los Angeles
New York JFK
Orlando

I imagine daily A333 will what it is going to be.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 5:52 pm

SeanM1997 wrote:
What about Manchester - Atlanta in Summer 2021?


I would guess it will be served a by Delta.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 6:18 pm

Atlanta is already on sale for S21, daily A333.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 6:07 pm

I did read somewhere that Delhi is just postponed for this year, does anyone know how true this is?
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 9:51 pm

Luftymatt wrote:
I did read somewhere that Delhi is just postponed for this year, does anyone know how true this is?


I imagine that the word “postponed” reflects the most politically astute way of saying “cancelled”!

It might be postponed in the sense that the aspiration remains to launch Delhi from Manchester in time, but the truth is more likely that there is no timeframe on it and the airline itself might not last long enough to see through that plan in any event.

If VS is still flying in 2022 and the world is back to something approaching normality, I’d say there is a good chance Delhi, Cegas and perhaps elsewhere come back in the radar for VS at Manchester.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Tue May 19, 2020 11:47 am

Remarkably it seems that KU are starting a KWI-MAN service in July (see details and link below).

KU149 KWI 0920 MAN 1410 Tue, Fri, Sun
KU150 MAN 1540 KWI 2355 Tue, Fri, Sun

https://airportrumours.blogspot.com/202 ... r.html?m=1
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 3:07 pm

Does anyone know why VS flew a 747 (G-VROY) from GLA to MAN yesterday afternoon? It's my first post - so please be kind :)
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Weisy wrote:
Does anyone know why VS flew a 747 (G-VROY) from GLA to MAN yesterday afternoon? It's my first post - so please be kind :)


All Virgin 747s are being positioned to Manchester where decommissioning tasks including moving of engines to correct aircraft as per certification and ownership papers etc...... is to be done in the coming weeks - They are then off the the desert
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 8:01 pm

SueD wrote:
Weisy wrote:
Does anyone know why VS flew a 747 (G-VROY) from GLA to MAN yesterday afternoon? It's my first post - so please be kind :)


All Virgin 747s are being positioned to Manchester where decommissioning tasks including moving of engines to correct aircraft as per certification and ownership papers etc...... is to be done in the coming weeks - They are then off the the desert


Thanks Sue. Sad times losing the 747s, but inevitable.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 9:11 pm

Probably the last 747 out of GLA too :(
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 10:49 am

It is the same in the rail industry lots of lasts are happening without anywhere near the usual amount of attention and the inability of enthusiasts to watch them in the same way. A real shame, glad I took time to watch the 747s at Manchester in January while I was nearby.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 12:28 pm

Virgin had previously announced that they were dropping MAN-LAS however now that the 747s have gone they have axed it for the remainder of this summer too :/

I was booked on the A330s (300 out 200 back) at the end of September, they've just e-mailed me to tell me and inform me of the "good news" that they have managed to put me on a flight from LHR, cheers then :/ Not like they are bussing us down there or something...

Anyway that'll be because they are reshuffling everything else to cover some of the 747 programme, though I thought the A330-200s were on borrowed time now too?

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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 12:53 pm

FlyingColours wrote:
Virgin had previously announced that they were dropping MAN-LAS however now that the 747s have gone they have axed it for the remainder of this summer too :/

I was booked on the A330s (300 out 200 back) at the end of September, they've just e-mailed me to tell me and inform me of the "good news" that they have managed to put me on a flight from LHR, cheers then :/ Not like they are bussing us down there or something...

Anyway that'll be because they are reshuffling everything else to cover some of the 747 programme, though I thought the A330-200s were on borrowed time now too?

Phil
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MAN-LAS has been dropped and also doesn't feature in their plans for summer 2021. With Thomas Cook no longer around, MAN no longer has a direct flight to LAS.

As for your flight, they're not obliged to arrange ground transport down to LHR this far out and they have fulfilled their obligations by re-booking you onto an alternative flight. However, you don't have to accept this, so if you don't want to fly from LHR you can give them a call to see if they can route you some other way such as via an airport in the US such as JFK or even LAX (something I would do to be honest). You are also entitled to a refund at this stage if you decide not to bother with your trip at all.

As for the ex-Air Berlin A330-200's, VS have confirmed they will exit the fleet in 2022. Even though the 787 RR engine issue are now sorted on all of their 787's, the A330-200's are ideal for "right sizing" certain routes given the projected downturn and the cuts from bring forward withdrawal of the 747's, so despite being a bit different in terms of onboard product they have a role to play.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 6:13 pm

MAN been at the black magic, as somehow despite the covid crisis, seems to have gotten 2 new passenger airlines on board and a new cargo airline based at the airport.

As well as the rumoured Kuwait Airways route and the creation of THGair, Luxair have confirmed they will return with a 3 weekly flight from 29th June.

Strong rumours a 3rd new airline also waiting in the wings, but will update on that one as and when things become more confirmed.
 
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 8:42 pm

Good news User001!
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Re: Manchester (UK) Thread - 2020

Sat May 23, 2020 7:43 am

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