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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 10:54 am

xwb777 wrote:
KingB123 wrote:
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EK website says FLL cancelled until 31MAR while EWR-ATH, JFK-MXP cancelled until 3APR


With FLL i've heard its the weakest performing US market for Emirates

I guess EK should have went for MIA instead of FLL.


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Qatar is in Miami already and has feeder traffic with both of them being in One World. Emirates codeshares with JetBlue and JetBlue has a large operation at FLL hence why Emirates went to FLL
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:17 pm

Emirates moves the launch of DXB-SIN-PEN from 09APR to 01MAY.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 1:21 pm

xwb777 wrote:
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KLM to drop Kuwait flights?



Where did you get this info from? Source?


I am just asking a question. I tried searching for a flight from AMS to Kuwait, no direct flights. All the results were via Abu Dhabi (connecting to an Etihad flight ) and Dubai (connecting to a Flydubai flight).



KWI was shut down last night, so all passenger flights were suspended until further notice, including KL. I did a search for the month of August on KLM's web site and the direct flight was in the system as usual.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:12 pm

Emirates third daily flight to Amman (EK905/6) has been cancelled. This brings the daily services to 2 daily.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 2:13 pm

The Jordanian Government just announced the closure of Queen Alia International Airport for pax traffic starting from Tuesday 17/3. The airport will remain open to all cargo traffic.

Jordan has zero coronavirus cases. There was one case and now its cured.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 3:04 pm

Jordan suspends all international and domestic flights until further notice. Queen Alia will stay open for cargo traffic only.

Jordan has zero coronavirus cases after the only case has cured.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 4:33 pm

...and four other countries blocked from UAE. Turkish, Pegasus, Emirates, AirArabia, Etihad, MEA, flydubai affected I guess.

https://gulfnews.com/uae/uae-suspends-f ... 4191394991
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 14, 2020 5:42 pm

Emirates will operate an extra flight to Moscow DME on the 21st & 29th March operated by a 2-class B777.

The airline currently flies 14 weekly to Moscow by the A380 and B777
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:27 am

Qatar Airways is offering unpaid leaves to its staffs.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:34 pm

Qatar to suspend flights to/from the country for two weeks.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:37 am

Regarding the above post, Qatar will not be transporting any passenger whose final destination is Qatar. The airline will only be allowing transit passengers to board its flights.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:39 am

Today (16/03), Emirates will be operating three A380s to Amman, Jordan, to help in evacuating its passengers before the airport closure tomorrow.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:01 am

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Regarding the above post, Qatar will not be transporting any passenger whose final destination is Qatar. The airline will only be allowing transit passengers to board its flights.

... and passengers departing DOH as well.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:29 am

Abu Dhabi Airport to transfer all flights from T2 to T1. T2 will be closed.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:03 pm

-Qatar Airways to reduce LHR flights to 2 daily.
- The airline will terminate LGW, ADL and Canberra.
- Phase out the A380s and replace them with A350s and B777s.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 6:53 pm

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-Qatar Airways to reduce LHR flights to 2 daily.
- The airline will terminate LGW, ADL and Canberra.
- Phase out the A380s and replace them with A350s and B777s.


Terminate as in completely suspend or temporarily until this corona crisis is over?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:18 pm

EK temporarily suspends flights to 111 destinations (I hope I counted well ...)

https://www.emirates.com/at/english/hel ... l-updates/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:26 pm

Blerg wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
- The airline will terminate LGW, ADL and Canberra.

Terminate as in completely suspend or temporarily until this corona crisis is over?

DOH ADL 7x cancelled 21.3 to 31.5 and reduced to 5x 1.6 to 30.6 with A351 operating
DOH SYD CBR 7x cancelled 2.4 to 31.5
DOH LGW 18x cancelled 21.3 to 31.5 and reduced to 14x 1.6 to 30.6

Full account at https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-21mar20/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:32 pm

mickster wrote:
Blerg wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
- The airline will terminate LGW, ADL and Canberra.

Terminate as in completely suspend or temporarily until this corona crisis is over?

DOH ADL 7x cancelled 21.3 to 31.5 and reduced to 5x 1.6 to 30.6 with A351 operating
DOH SYD CBR 7x cancelled 2.4 to 31.5
DOH LGW 18x cancelled 21.3 to 31.5 and reduced to 14x 1.6 to 30.6

Full account at https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-21mar20/

Thank u for the details. I just posted what i saw on an insta account


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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 9:48 pm

Any updates on the airports in JED, AUH and BAH? I would think that Covid19 will cause delays but who knows given labor laws in the region. Just curious as to the completion dates
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:08 am

JED is 100% construction wise, it’s handed to the authorities couple of months ago.
AUH works stoped completely until further instructions .
BAH I’m not sure, but work pace will be down for sure
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:02 pm

Qatar Airways CEO, AKbar Al Baker has stated to Reuters that he will be seeking liquidity from the government as his airline is running out of cash.

Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN21G07Q


I guess the main reason for not grounding operations of the airline is to take advantage of the temporary void left by the competitors?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:42 pm

Emirates flights are on sale from 01MAY20.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:08 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates flights are on sale from 01MAY20.


Looks like a kinda two phased restart. 01 May and 21st June or even 01st July. Sensible. Not all eggs in one basket and it leaves wiggle room to adjust capacity depending on what happens around the world.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-27mar20/
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:47 pm

^^There is an error in the article above, DXB-BLR is 24x weekly and not 28x weekly as mentioned.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:56 pm

xwb777 wrote:

I guess the main reason for not grounding operations of the airline is to take advantage of the temporary void left by the competitors?


Based on the loads I don't think Qatar is profitable on the routes it's flying. They also haven't cut any of the staff salary. I think they're doing the flying for publicity more than for commercial reasons.
لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:57 pm

Avgeek21 wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
Emirates flights are on sale from 01MAY20.


Looks like a kinda two phased restart. 01 May and 21st June or even 01st July. Sensible. Not all eggs in one basket and it leaves wiggle room to adjust capacity depending on what happens around the world.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-27mar20/


Thanks for the link!
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:30 pm

3rdGen wrote:
xwb777 wrote:

I guess the main reason for not grounding operations of the airline is to take advantage of the temporary void left by the competitors?


Based on the loads I don't think Qatar is profitable on the routes it's flying. They also haven't cut any of the staff salary. I think they're doing the flying for publicity more than for commercial reasons.


Qatari Government has a lot of spare change! They'll be fine!
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:03 am

Emirates will receive a government bailout in the form of new equity from the Dubai government.

Source: Bloomberg
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:16 pm

Emirates will operate 4 weekly outbound flights to LHR and 3 weekly flights to Paris, Brussels, Frankfurt and Zurich. All flights will be operated a 2-class B777 and will operate from Terminal 2. Inbound flights will carry cargo only. In-addition to that, in-flight magazines wont be offered, Limo services wont be available and premium lounges at T2 wont be welcoming travelers.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:58 pm

Royal Jordanian has stated that they have sufficient cash until June. The airline won't be asking for a bailout from the government but will instead request tax and payment deferrals
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:51 am

Air Arabia Abu Dhabi has received its AOC making it the 5 national airline in the UAE.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:28 am

And Wizz Air is planning to launch ASAP also
https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/wizz-enter-new-markets-accelerate-abu-dhabi-plans

While the Covid situation is currently unsettling, there is certainly a race not to miss out when traffic picks-up again!
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:08 am

While i enjoy their optimism, the world outlook on traffic recovery is much more pessimistic and it's common-shared view by many airlines that traffic won't pick up to pro-COVID levels for at least 3 years..Which is why i think their A321Neos are too much of capacity (239pax) for the current situation..Unless of course they adopt the strategy of "empty middle seat"..Air Baltic with their A223s have an excellent-sized type..And the UAE market is flooded by giants like EK,QR and EY that have too much capacity in their fleet to not be able to engage in a price dumping war with Wizz...How much of a traffic could there be between SOF-AUH that isn't already covered by FZ/EK and QR? And how much of an attractive holiday destination could Abu Dhabi be compared to other desert metropolis of Dubai and Doha? Let's also not forget that Air Arabia Abu Dhabi is on warpath too with smaller planes..
Flying is breathing..no planes no life..
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:16 pm

My guess is that G9 AUH will completely replace EY on their short-haul routes, to India, Pakistan, Africa, Eastern-Europe
The aircraft density making the difference here as EY's premium product is not required nor appreciated on these markets.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:24 pm

3rdGen wrote:
xwb777 wrote:

I guess the main reason for not grounding operations of the airline is to take advantage of the temporary void left by the competitors?


Based on the loads I don't think Qatar is profitable on the routes it's flying. They also haven't cut any of the staff salary. I think they're doing the flying for publicity more than for commercial reasons.


Afraid, that comment is not true- 200 staff have been laid off and that's just those that we know about:
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1643146/business-economy
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:28 pm

eta unknown wrote:
3rdGen wrote:
xwb777 wrote:

I guess the main reason for not grounding operations of the airline is to take advantage of the temporary void left by the competitors?


Based on the loads I don't think Qatar is profitable on the routes it's flying. They also haven't cut any of the staff salary. I think they're doing the flying for publicity more than for commercial reasons.


Afraid, that comment is not true- 200 staff have been laid off and that's just those that we know about:
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1643146/business-economy

Today its has been announed that their will be no salary payment for three months for around half of the staff.


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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:37 pm

Could we assume that Air Arabia destinations from AUH will be the ones that were published some time ago?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 5:16 pm

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Could we assume that Air Arabia destinations from AUH will be the ones that were published some time ago?



It could be. Most of them if not all of them were served than dropped by Etihad. Ofcourse they will expand to more cities.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:36 pm

Will UAE have enough money to save 5 Airlines : Emirates, Etihad, Air Arabia, Air Arabia Abu Dhabi and Flydubai?
 
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Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:41 pm

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Will UAE have enough money to save 5 Airlines : Emirates, Etihad, Air Arabia, Air Arabia Abu Dhabi and Flydubai?


Soon there will be six once Wizz Air gets their AOC. lol
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:11 pm

Blerg wrote:
dabc wrote:
Will UAE have enough money to save 5 Airlines : Emirates, Etihad, Air Arabia, Air Arabia Abu Dhabi and Flydubai?


Soon there will be six once Wizz Air gets their AOC. lol


Make that potentially seven when (or if?) SpiceJet Ras Al Khaimah (RAK) starts up too. Late 2019 they announced service from Delhi to RAK and to setup a new airline venture based in RAK to serve India, GCC an (Eastern) Europe. But they first need to get local investors on board let alone an AOC etc etc.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:53 am

Avgeek21 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
dabc wrote:
Will UAE have enough money to save 5 Airlines : Emirates, Etihad, Air Arabia, Air Arabia Abu Dhabi and Flydubai?


Soon there will be six once Wizz Air gets their AOC. lol


Make that potentially seven when (or if?) SpiceJet Ras Al Khaimah (RAK) starts up too. Late 2019 they announced service from Delhi to RAK and to setup a new airline venture based in RAK to serve India, GCC an (Eastern) Europe. But they first need to get local investors on board let alone an AOC etc etc.


Wow I didn't know SpiceJet was also looking at expanding to Europe from RAK. What's this obsession with everyone setting up airlines in the UAE these days. Bubble is about to burst, starting with Etihad.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 24, 2020 8:27 am

xwb777 wrote:
eta unknown wrote:
3rdGen wrote:

Based on the loads I don't think Qatar is profitable on the routes it's flying. They also haven't cut any of the staff salary. I think they're doing the flying for publicity more than for commercial reasons.


Afraid, that comment is not true- 200 staff have been laid off and that's just those that we know about:
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1643146/business-economy

Today its has been announed that their will be no salary payment for three months for around half of the staff.


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No, some of the staff will have 50% of their basic salary deferred (mid-grade and above). Not 50% of the staff with no salary for 3 months.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:20 am

Emirates B77W, A6-EBC, has left the fleet. Its a 15 years old aircraft.


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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 26, 2020 12:28 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Emirates B77W, A6-EBC, has left the fleet. Its a 15 years old aircraft.


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Young plane but given the circumstances it makes sense. Are any other planes supposed to leave the fleet this year?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:13 pm

Is it true that some A380 will leave EK fleet? If yes, how many?
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Apr 28, 2020 2:26 am

Etihad will operate charter flights from Montreal to Kuwait to on the following dates:

April 30
May 01
May 02
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:42 pm

Etihad will resume normal pax operations from May 16.
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/transpo ... -on-may-16
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:10 pm

xwb777 wrote:
Etihad will resume normal pax operations from May 16.
https://www.arabianbusiness.com/transpo ... -on-may-16

Now changed to June 16.

Rather than change it yet again, just be done with it and say July 01, same as EK.

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