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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:59 pm

TheChickenman wrote:
Looks like they're replacing the service that would have gone to Boston with giving SFO and ORD additional frequencies.


I just checked the new frequencies and I'm surprised they did not go for a early am arrival in IST for either city.

Also shocked DL didn't retaliate to AA/AS with BOS-DFW.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 03, 2020 1:02 am

VS4ever wrote:
Final part of the International T-100's for August, which is the Caribbean, many routes are 1 weekly or so, so I am going to focus on the multiples that reflect a larger population to work with.

PUJ - DL only fly 1 weekly and performance was pretty flat year on year, uptick in gauge, but a very small uplift in pax, leading to a 9% drop in load factor

B6 - fly roughly 4 weekly but the issues in the DR were exceedingly clear from these results

Load Factor: 68.5% [93.8%]
Flights: 36 [34]
Seats: 5,832 [5,100] 7.4%, 5.1%
Pax: 3,993 [4,784] 7%, (26.9%)

After a great 2018, B6 had set themselves up for an expansive 2019, unfortunately the events in DR destroyed that, and this turned into a horrible set of results from them, while they increased gauge and a slight increase in frequency, the market collapsed 27% during the month.

HAV - only including this because it's interesting for many people, 52.2% this month. Again, no surprise this was cut.

STI - B6

Load Factor: 79.7% [87.2%]
Flights: 107 [77]
Seats: 17,910 [11,910] 7.6%, 25.9%
Pax: 14,271 [10,386] 28.4%, (1.1%)

Not as pronounced as PUJ, but STI still suffered a bit, gauge increase here too and a big volume increase, but a 1.1% market decrease was a bit tough. Given the hike in capacity not the worst, but I suspect B6 were hoping for better.

PAP - B6

Load Factor: 92.5% [88.3%]
Flights: 36 [36]
Seats: 5,808 [5,400] 7%, 0%
Pax: 5,374 [4,767] 0%, 11.3%

Decent set of results here for B6, 7% increase in gauge as the bigger 320's came on stream. it was well rewarded with a 11.3% market increase as pax went from 132 to 149 (which would be 100% load effectively for the regular 320's)

SDQ - B6

Load Factor: 86.9% [94.4%]
Flights: 106 [63]
Seats: 18,820 [9,858] 11.9%, 35.8%
Pax: 16,346 [9,302] 38.8%, 4.3%

One of those that a 7% load drop doesn't tell the full story, 36% increase in volume, coupled with a 12% increase in gauge is a huge amount of capacity to put through the market, but.. they did exceedingly well, by covering the volume increase and 4% of the gauge, avg pax count 148 to 154, which would have been too tight for the regular market. 44 of the 2019 flights were on all core 321's...

BDA - Combined 90.7% 15,900 [15,760] 90.1%

B6

Load Factor: 90.9% [91.9%]
Flights: 62 [62]
Seats: 9,348 [9,300] 0.5%, 0%
Pax: 8,494 [8,548] 0%, (0.6%)

Pretty flat, slight uptick in gauge coupled with slight drop in market led to a 1% decline in loads.


DL

Load Factor: 90.5% [88.1%]
Flights: 62 [62]
Seats: 8,184 [8,184] 0%, 0%
Pax: 8,494 [8,548] 0%, 2.6%

DL wins the growth battle, however they are using smaller aircraft than B6, that said 2.6% market growth will do just fine..

SJU - B6, ok, I know PR is counted as domestic by T-100, but Massport I swear report it as Caribbean, so hence I have moved it to International.

Load Factor: 83.7% [88.3%]
Flights: 243 [181]
Seats: 38,130 [27,294] 3.9%, 24.5%
Pax: 31,910 [24,096] 25.9%, (1.4%)

The recovery continues, say what you want about the state of PR and it's economy, people still want to fly there from BOS and in decent numbers too, the move from close to 3 daily up to almost 4 daily, pretty much paid off, with the pax count covering at least the increase in volume, but not quite covering the gauge increase too, the difference is 2 pax per flight, so roughly 480 folks... can't see B6 being terribly upset about that.. Solid results..

Last but NOT least..

AUA - DL fly once a week, so I am ignoring their numbers here.

Load Factor: 89.2% [89.6%]
Flights: 82 [78]
Seats: 15,692 [11,772] 21.1%, 3.8%
Pax: 14,003 [10,553] 3.9%, 20.8%

Ahhh the memories of April when i got to visit such a beautiful island.. not sure I will have the money to go back, but... if I do, I will. But I digress. I call this the not quite home run, you know, the one that bounces off the top of the green monster and back into play.. you've all seen it. Huge uplift in gauge of 21% with 87% of flights on some form of 321 but mostly all core, with the odd weekend mint thrown in (sadly the T-100's don't go to tail level on this route to determine which was which). 4% increase in volume and they got so close to filling the entire gap, but just fell short to bring the avg load down by 0.4% Avg pax went from 135 to 171... Folks LOVE AUA!

So there we have it, August is in the books, Once September is out next month, I will do a slightly different analysis of the summer season from May to September to see how folks got on during the whole thing...

Thanks for the kind comments and reading all of this, it's only worth doing if that happens.. I'm going to be out of pocket after this week because I'm off to MIA on Friday for a cruise on DL no less (rather than AA).

Thanks for the information. Have a good trip!
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:12 am

tomaheath wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
Final part of the International T-100's for August, which is the Caribbean, many routes are 1 weekly or so, so I am going to focus on the multiples that reflect a larger population to work with.

PUJ - DL only fly 1 weekly and performance was pretty flat year on year, uptick in gauge, but a very small uplift in pax, leading to a 9% drop in load factor

B6 - fly roughly 4 weekly but the issues in the DR were exceedingly clear from these results

Load Factor: 68.5% [93.8%]
Flights: 36 [34]
Seats: 5,832 [5,100] 7.4%, 5.1%
Pax: 3,993 [4,784] 7%, (26.9%)

After a great 2018, B6 had set themselves up for an expansive 2019, unfortunately the events in DR destroyed that, and this turned into a horrible set of results from them, while they increased gauge and a slight increase in frequency, the market collapsed 27% during the month.

HAV - only including this because it's interesting for many people, 52.2% this month. Again, no surprise this was cut.

STI - B6

Load Factor: 79.7% [87.2%]
Flights: 107 [77]
Seats: 17,910 [11,910] 7.6%, 25.9%
Pax: 14,271 [10,386] 28.4%, (1.1%)

Not as pronounced as PUJ, but STI still suffered a bit, gauge increase here too and a big volume increase, but a 1.1% market decrease was a bit tough. Given the hike in capacity not the worst, but I suspect B6 were hoping for better.

PAP - B6

Load Factor: 92.5% [88.3%]
Flights: 36 [36]
Seats: 5,808 [5,400] 7%, 0%
Pax: 5,374 [4,767] 0%, 11.3%

Decent set of results here for B6, 7% increase in gauge as the bigger 320's came on stream. it was well rewarded with a 11.3% market increase as pax went from 132 to 149 (which would be 100% load effectively for the regular 320's)

SDQ - B6

Load Factor: 86.9% [94.4%]
Flights: 106 [63]
Seats: 18,820 [9,858] 11.9%, 35.8%
Pax: 16,346 [9,302] 38.8%, 4.3%

One of those that a 7% load drop doesn't tell the full story, 36% increase in volume, coupled with a 12% increase in gauge is a huge amount of capacity to put through the market, but.. they did exceedingly well, by covering the volume increase and 4% of the gauge, avg pax count 148 to 154, which would have been too tight for the regular market. 44 of the 2019 flights were on all core 321's...

BDA - Combined 90.7% 15,900 [15,760] 90.1%

B6

Load Factor: 90.9% [91.9%]
Flights: 62 [62]
Seats: 9,348 [9,300] 0.5%, 0%
Pax: 8,494 [8,548] 0%, (0.6%)

Pretty flat, slight uptick in gauge coupled with slight drop in market led to a 1% decline in loads.


DL

Load Factor: 90.5% [88.1%]
Flights: 62 [62]
Seats: 8,184 [8,184] 0%, 0%
Pax: 8,494 [8,548] 0%, 2.6%

DL wins the growth battle, however they are using smaller aircraft than B6, that said 2.6% market growth will do just fine..

SJU - B6, ok, I know PR is counted as domestic by T-100, but Massport I swear report it as Caribbean, so hence I have moved it to International.

Load Factor: 83.7% [88.3%]
Flights: 243 [181]
Seats: 38,130 [27,294] 3.9%, 24.5%
Pax: 31,910 [24,096] 25.9%, (1.4%)

The recovery continues, say what you want about the state of PR and it's economy, people still want to fly there from BOS and in decent numbers too, the move from close to 3 daily up to almost 4 daily, pretty much paid off, with the pax count covering at least the increase in volume, but not quite covering the gauge increase too, the difference is 2 pax per flight, so roughly 480 folks... can't see B6 being terribly upset about that.. Solid results..

Last but NOT least..

AUA - DL fly once a week, so I am ignoring their numbers here.

Load Factor: 89.2% [89.6%]
Flights: 82 [78]
Seats: 15,692 [11,772] 21.1%, 3.8%
Pax: 14,003 [10,553] 3.9%, 20.8%

Ahhh the memories of April when i got to visit such a beautiful island.. not sure I will have the money to go back, but... if I do, I will. But I digress. I call this the not quite home run, you know, the one that bounces off the top of the green monster and back into play.. you've all seen it. Huge uplift in gauge of 21% with 87% of flights on some form of 321 but mostly all core, with the odd weekend mint thrown in (sadly the T-100's don't go to tail level on this route to determine which was which). 4% increase in volume and they got so close to filling the entire gap, but just fell short to bring the avg load down by 0.4% Avg pax went from 135 to 171... Folks LOVE AUA!

So there we have it, August is in the books, Once September is out next month, I will do a slightly different analysis of the summer season from May to September to see how folks got on during the whole thing...

Thanks for the kind comments and reading all of this, it's only worth doing if that happens.. I'm going to be out of pocket after this week because I'm off to MIA on Friday for a cruise on DL no less (rather than AA).

Thanks for the information. Have a good trip!


Back now after an awesome week on the Norwegian Escape, (highly recommended) DL to MIA and back was an excellent one although I am still not a fan of MIA as an airport layout, but that’s just me.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:21 pm

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Well well well, pretty darn good set of results, sad they didn't quite make 3m, but 8.5% uplift over 19 is impressive.

Domestic - Jet - Record January, also better than any February and better than any March up to March 2015.
Commuter - DL flying at the double, record January, just beating out Jan 2007, higher than any February and 17 out of 22 March numbers...

Given the Socio economic issues right now, I fully expect this to be the calm before the storm. Asia will get a hit first, then maybe Europe and then the domestics will follow if corporate travel bans continue (note my company has only banned international travel right now)

But as a start to 2020, can't complain.

Ditto - one more reason also is because it has been a very mild winter and days which have had spring temperatures. That has also been the case I think with some of the large stations such as ORD which have had some snowfall but not to the same proportion that we typically receive. In other words, few cancellations and re-routing.

But then as you said - it is the peace before the storm. Many projects in my firm have already started reporting travel freeze - they do not want employees to travel nor consultants to travel in. I got a sneeze at DTW last week and everybody started staring at me with a bad look. Precaution is good but I think this is being taken to the next level. But then as they say, who am I say!
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:45 pm

I’ll be taking advantage of the AA 777 on BOS-MIA to get some sun in a few weeks! I’m excited!
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:34 am

KE are closing ICN-BOS from 3/8 thru 4/25, not unexpected but another blow to the Asia numbers.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-03mar20/
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:30 pm

Just had some time so did a quick check to see how many states + territories that BOS have a direct flight to.
If a state has a seasonal flight such as Montana OR even if a single commercial flight exists in that state (e.g. NH), I counted the state as YES.

Exceptions being CVG which is counted under KY although it mostly serves Cincinnati as Covington is technically in KY. Delaware has been marked N/A as there is no commercial flight from that state now based on my reading. Cargo is also not taken into consideration for the count. I counted DC in the state list although technically it is a territory.

I was surprised to see that BOS has flights to 34 states and 2 territory (counting DC). There are many cities within a state where BOS technically has no service but in the wish list for a longtime such as SDF, OMA, DSM etc. but still goes for an interesting read. Hopefully the likes of DL, AA jump into some of the routes as they have to chasing new avenues to boost their revenues.

Thanks Vs4ever for correcting me where I had glitches as always. Appreciate your feedback.

No. State Code BOS flight Y/N Comments
1 Alabama AL X
2 Alaska AK X
3 Arizona AZ Yes
4 Arkansas AR X
5 California CA Yes
6 Colorado CO Yes
7 Connecticut CT X
8 Delaware DE N/A No commercial airport
9 Florida FL Yes
10 Georgia GA Yes
11 Hawaii HI Yes
12 Idaho ID X
13 Illinois IL Yes
14 Indiana IN Yes
15 Iowa IA X
16 Kansas KS X
17 Kentucky KY Yes CVG is technically in Kentucky
18 Louisiana LA Yes
19 Maine ME Yes Portland on 9K
20 Maryland MD Yes
21 Massachusetts MA Yes Flights to Hyannis on Cape Air
22 Michigan MI Yes
23 Minnesota MN Yes
24 Mississippi MS X
25 Missouri MO Yes
26 Montana MT Yes Seasonal flight to BZN
27 Nebraska NE X
28 Nevada NV Yes
29 New Hampshire NH Yes Lebanon on 9K
30 New Jersey NJ Yes
31 New Mexico NM X
32 New York NY Yes
33 North Carolina NC Yes
34 North Dakota ND X
35 Ohio OH Yes
36 Oklahoma OK X
37 Oregon OR Yes
38 Pennsylvania PA Yes
39 Rhode Island RI X
40 South Carolina SC Yes
41 South Dakota SD X
42 Tennessee TN Yes
43 Texas TX Yes
44 Utah UT Yes
45 Vermont VT Yes Rutland on 9K
46 Virginia VA Yes
47 Washington WA Yes
48 Washington DC DC Yes Technically not a state but an imp. Destination
49 West Virginia WV X
50 Wisconsin WI Yes
51 Wyoming WY X

Puerto Rico PR Yes San Juan
American Samoa AS X
Guam GU X
US Virgin Islands VI Yes STT
Northern Mariana Islands MP X
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:12 am

Well my company has just fallen into line, cancelling any booked or non-booked travel for internal meetings. Customer based travel is still ok at this point. and this is until further notice.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 05, 2020 12:34 am

VS4ever wrote:
KE are closing ICN-BOS from 3/8 thru 4/25, not unexpected but another blow to the Asia numbers.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-03mar20/


Everyone will be suffering is seems with their pax numbers. KE also suspending DFW, LAS and SEA, while ORD, ATL, IAD, JFK, SFO and LAX are all being reduced.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:18 pm

I posted this in the DY thread earlier, but BOS-FCO, plus others are getting frequency cuts from 3/28 to 5/5.

Source: https://media.uk.norwegian.com/pressrel ... ry-2979040
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:18 pm

As my handle might suggest, I'm ELATED by this! BOS-MEM is back on DL!

https://www.flymemphis.com/NewsDetails?newsid=5318
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:42 pm

Wow! Great news. Thank you for sharing. Finally - DL restarts BOS-MEM! I used to take the MEM flight when it was still a hub in 2008 and have good memories.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:03 pm

Same! I would fly Northwest BOS-MEM from terminal E at the start of college. Glad to see the route picked back up
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:32 pm

VS4ever wrote:
I posted this in the DY thread earlier, but BOS-FCO, plus others are getting frequency cuts from 3/28 to 5/5.

Source: https://media.uk.norwegian.com/pressrel ... ry-2979040



AZ is cutting a bit, canceling the odd flight here and there, which isn't entirely uncommon this time of year. Usually season changes bring odd cancellations, aircraft swaps, etc. This year it's just made that much worse.

Mostly everyone out here is under the impression it'll all blow over soon enough. Hope that to be true. A lot of people working here don't exactly have a strong fallback plan in case things get much worse before they get better.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:35 pm

BOSMEMFlyer wrote:
As my handle might suggest, I'm ELATED by this! BOS-MEM is back on DL!

https://www.flymemphis.com/NewsDetails?newsid=5318

Great news! Also, judging by the flight times they are counting on some connecting TATL traffic on the route.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:41 pm

LH considering grounding all their A380s. We may never see it in Boston.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:07 pm

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LH considering grounding all their A380s. We may never see it in Boston.


Important word missing here "Temporarily" That being said I don't agree with the above statement.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 06, 2020 10:41 pm

Flew down to DCA this week on B6 (a great trip!), and noticed that they were nearing completion of a new gate, C22, on the old UA pier of Terminal C. That pier always had less gates than the other one, so it was a smart move, but I didn't know they were doing this.

Also, about 10 min after takeoff from BOS my aircraft had an issue with the rear door. The captain said there was a warning light on that indicated the door wasn't closed all the way and that there were some pressurization issues. At about 6,000 ft we turned back to BOS and then swapped out planes. This was my first diversion/return to airport so it was definitely an interesting experience!
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:06 pm

http://www.massport.com/media/3960/janu ... _11619.pdf

Massport made the January board meeting materials available. Lots of good information about the big projects underway - 2020 and 2021 are going to be heavy construction years between the terminal E expansion, the B to C connector, the B and C roadways project and the C canopy project.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:52 am

jworks158 wrote:
ChrisNH38 wrote:
LH considering grounding all their A380s. We may never see it in Boston.


Important word missing here "Temporarily" That being said I don't agree with the above statement.


I don’t know why you’d disagree...there was nothing declarative in my post, and in fact LH has officially gone ahead and grounded their A380s. I said we MAY never see the LH A380 in Boston, and that’s an entirely defensible statement.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:57 pm

OAG changes courtesy of Enilria (thank you sir) quite a few here...

AA BOS-DCA JUN 14>10[11] JUL 14>10[11] AUG 14>12[11]
*AA BOS-JFK JUN 6>3[1.0] JUL 6>3[0.6] AUG 6>4[0.5]
AA BOS-LGA JUN 12>10[10] JUL 12>10[10

B6 BOS-CHS JUN 2>1.7[2] JUL 2>1.1[2] AUG 2>1.2[2]
B6 BOS-JFK JUL 6>7[5] AUG 6>7[5]
B6 BOS-PBI JUN 3>4[3]
B6 BOS-PDX JUN 1.3>0.7[1.1]
B6 BOS-SJC JUN 1.6>1.0[0.9]

DL BOS-CLE OCT 3>4[2] NOV 3>4[2] DEC 3>4[2]
**DL BOS-MEM OCT 0>0.9[0] NOV 0>1.0[0] DEC 0>1.0[0]
DL BOS-SLC SEP 3>1.9[1.8]

F9 BOS-DEN AUG 0.2>0.5[1.0] SEP 0>0.4[1.0] OCT 0>0.4[1.0]
F9 BOS-MCO AUG 0.3>0.9[1.0] SEP 0>0.8[1.0] OCT 0>0.9[1.0] NOV 0>0.3[0.9]
F9 BOS-MIA AUG 0.3>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>0.3[0.6]
F9 BOS-PHL AUG 0.3>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0] NOV 0>0.3[0]
F9 BOS-RDU AUG 0.2>0.6[0.6] OCT 0>0.6[0.5]
F9 BOS-SJU AUG 0.3>1.0[0] SEP 0>1.0[0] OCT 0>1.0[0]

IB BOS-MAD APR 0.1>1.0[0.9] OCT 0.1>0.9[0.9]

KE BOS-ICN APR 0.5>0.1[0.5]

NK ATL-BOS SEP 0.3>1.0[0.5] OCT 0>1.0[0.5] NOV 0>0.6[0.4]
NK BOS-BWI SEP 0.5>1.8[1.8] NOV 0>1.0[1.9]
NK BOS-CLE SEP 0.3>0.7[0.7] OCT 0>0.6[0.5] NOV 0>0.3[0.2]
NK BOS-DTW SEP 0.3>0.7[0.7] OCT 0>0.6[0.5] NOV 0>0.3[0.2]
NK BOS-FLL SEP 0.5>2[1.7] OCT 0>2[1.5] NOV 0>1.1[1.9]
NK BOS-LAS SEP 0.3>1.0[1.0] NOV 0>0.6[1.0]
NK BOS-MCO SEP 0.5>1.8[1.8] NOV 0>1.0[1.9]
NK BOS-MSY SEP 0.3>0.8[0.8] NOV 0>0.4[0.9]
NK BOS-MYR SEP 0.5>1.5[1.0] OCT 0>1.4[1.0] NOV 0>0.8[1.0]
NK BOS-RSW SEP 0>0.4[0.5] OCT 0>0.6[0.5] NOV 0>0.3[1.4]
NK BOS-SJU SEP 0.3>0.8[0] OCT 0>0.7[0] NOV 0>0.4[0]

UA BOS-IAD APR 5>4[4]
UA BOS-SFO APR 6>5[7]
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:09 pm

Strange happenings about the field tonight.

There's an AA 333, an AA 772 inbound, and the usual mess that DST brings upon the schedule.

Also recently been given sufficient reason to believe the KLM 333 is not long for the BOS route
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:15 pm

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Strange happenings about the field tonight.

There's an AA 333, an AA 772 inbound, and the usual mess that DST brings upon the schedule.

Also recently been given sufficient reason to believe the KLM 333 is not long for the BOS route


Likely one-off upguages because they have spare widebodies
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:59 am

FGITD wrote:
Strange happenings about the field tonight.

There's an AA 333, an AA 772 inbound, and the usual mess that DST brings upon the schedule.

Also recently been given sufficient reason to believe the KLM 333 is not long for the BOS route


The A332 has been planned for a few months on the BOS-PHL route and it will operate 3x this month. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/288591/american-adds-a330-philadelphia-boston-service-in-march-2020/

AA also planned a 772 one off from JFK. It is scheduled to be on the ground for ~24hrs arriving 3/17 departing 3/18. This is likely for familiarization purposes ahead of the introduction of twice daily 777 service at the end of the month (1 round trip to MIA, and 1 round trip to LHR).https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/289113/american-airlines-adds-one-time-boeing-777-new-york-boston-flight-in-march-2020/

However I don't remember todays flight being scheduled in advance.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:36 am

jworks158 wrote:
FGITD wrote:
Strange happenings about the field tonight.

There's an AA 333, an AA 772 inbound, and the usual mess that DST brings upon the schedule.

Also recently been given sufficient reason to believe the KLM 333 is not long for the BOS route


The A332 has been planned for a few months on the BOS-PHL route and it will operate 3x this month. https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/288591/american-adds-a330-philadelphia-boston-service-in-march-2020/

AA also planned a 772 one off from JFK. It is scheduled to be on the ground for ~24hrs arriving 3/17 departing 3/18. This is likely for familiarization purposes ahead of the introduction of twice daily 777 service at the end of the month (1 round trip to MIA, and 1 round trip to LHR).https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/289113/american-airlines-adds-one-time-boeing-777-new-york-boston-flight-in-march-2020/

However I don't remember todays flight being scheduled in advance.


They are actually going 2x Bos-Mia on the 777 for April
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:42 am

I noticed both the AA A330 and 777 flights tonight left from gate B8X on American's website. Does that mean they were boarded at B8 and just blocked other gates or is B8X a bus gate and the planes were parked elsewhere? I've flown through B a few times since the renovations were complete and didn't remember there being a B8X. I also thought that Massport/AA had designed the gates to only accommodate up to a 767 without blocking.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 4:16 am

ritoitalia wrote:
I noticed both the AA A330 and 777 flights tonight left from gate B8X on American's website. Does that mean they were boarded at B8 and just blocked other gates or is B8X a bus gate and the planes were parked elsewhere? I've flown through B a few times since the renovations were complete and didn't remember there being a B8X. I also thought that Massport/AA had designed the gates to only accommodate up to a 767 without blocking.


B8 fits 777s and a330s at an angle and closes b10. Back when US flew the a330 on BOS-CLT they used B8 as well... not sure what the X is about. Looks the like a330 left just a few minutes before the 777 arrived.

I’m surprised that B doesn’t have a few more widebody gates in case AA or UA ever had more than one on the ground at a time - it’s not exactly uncommon that either airline schedules them at BOS and you’d think the lines would be painted just incase.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:22 pm

X = 10

Pure speculation, but does B8X potentially indicate 10 is closed as well?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:14 pm

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... 0-1100gmt/

DL have cancelled ATL-FCO and DTL-FCO through 4/30. Something tells me that when they roll the schedule to May and it's still an issue BOS-FCO is likely to befall the same fate. Supposed to start 5/21, note they have cancelled JFK-MXP until 5/20...
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:27 pm

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https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/290176/selected-foreign-carriers-italy-march-2020-service-update-as-of-09mar20-1100gmt/

DL have cancelled ATL-FCO and DTL-FCO through 4/30. Something tells me that when they roll the schedule to May and it's still an issue BOS-FCO is likely to befall the same fate. Supposed to start 5/21, note they have cancelled JFK-MXP until 5/20...

Wow - the situation in Italy is not looking good. There are a lot of Italy cuts. I think if the situation does not improve, it is certain as you mentioned - BOS will be on the chopping block.

I wonder where airlines are going to deploy these planes.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:36 pm

iyerhari wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/290176/selected-foreign-carriers-italy-march-2020-service-update-as-of-09mar20-1100gmt/

DL have cancelled ATL-FCO and DTL-FCO through 4/30. Something tells me that when they roll the schedule to May and it's still an issue BOS-FCO is likely to befall the same fate. Supposed to start 5/21, note they have cancelled JFK-MXP until 5/20...

Wow - the situation in Italy is not looking good. There are a lot of Italy cuts. I think if the situation does not improve, it is certain as you mentioned - BOS will be on the chopping block.

I wonder where airlines are going to deploy these planes.


I suspect some of them will get parked in the sun, only so much you can do with such a fleet when demand in general is softening, it's easy to redeploy when it's just China for example as the services are somewhat limited over all for the likes of DL, but as it spreads, much tougher. You see why LH are stopping their 380's for a while, I can see AF and even BA doing the same..
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:45 pm

iyerhari wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/290176/selected-foreign-carriers-italy-march-2020-service-update-as-of-09mar20-1100gmt/

DL have cancelled ATL-FCO and DTL-FCO through 4/30. Something tells me that when they roll the schedule to May and it's still an issue BOS-FCO is likely to befall the same fate. Supposed to start 5/21, note they have cancelled JFK-MXP until 5/20...

Wow - the situation in Italy is not looking good. There are a lot of Italy cuts. I think if the situation does not improve, it is certain as you mentioned - BOS will be on the chopping block.

I wonder where airlines are going to deploy these planes.


I think in regards to Italy it is peaking right now. 1/4 of the entire population is under quarantine at this point. Given the 3 week incubation period, this should start to blow over by April.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:01 pm

Using the popular Johns Hopkins web page, the trend is positive: the number of confirmed cases is flattening out while the number of 'fully recovered' is steeply climbing.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:13 pm

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Using the popular Johns Hopkins web page, the trend is positive: the number of confirmed cases is flattening out while the number of 'fully recovered' is steeply climbing.


Not true. Cases are growing exponential again: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The linear curves are clearly steepening.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 3:28 pm

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I suspect some of them will get parked in the sun, only so much you can do with such a fleet when demand in general is softening, it's easy to redeploy when it's just China for example as the services are somewhat limited over all for the likes of DL, but as it spreads, much tougher. You see why LH are stopping their 380's for a while, I can see AF and even BA doing the same..

I think the issue has proliferated into multiple route cuts and if you see the recent announcement in the Globe from pharma companies like Biogen and Takeda, it is clear that companies are asking employees to work from home and stop all non-essential travel. My firm is beginning to get the feels of travel issues with clients not asking for consultants to travel, project delays due to prevailing economics etc.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:18 pm

Kno wrote:
ritoitalia wrote:
I noticed both the AA A330 and 777 flights tonight left from gate B8X on American's website. Does that mean they were boarded at B8 and just blocked other gates or is B8X a bus gate and the planes were parked elsewhere? I've flown through B a few times since the renovations were complete and didn't remember there being a B8X. I also thought that Massport/AA had designed the gates to only accommodate up to a 767 without blocking.


B8 fits 777s and a330s at an angle and closes b10. Back when US flew the a330 on BOS-CLT they used B8 as well... not sure what the X is about. Looks the like a330 left just a few minutes before the 777 arrived.

johhn14 wrote:
X = 10

Pure speculation, but does B8X potentially indicate 10 is closed as well?

“<Gate#>X” is standard AA nomenclature that the flight/equipment combo for the gate will use the alternate (widebody) lead-in line for that flight.

At the least, DFW and LAX also have gates that can be designated with the X.

I don’t know the official answer, but have seen it stated elsewhere that the gate assignment is intended for ground crews and gate agents (to guide the plane in on the correct line and have the jetbridge positioned properly,) but it just naturally makes it onto the FIDS and app.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:21 pm

TXRoadMan wrote:
Kno wrote:
ritoitalia wrote:
I noticed both the AA A330 and 777 flights tonight left from gate B8X on American's website. Does that mean they were boarded at B8 and just blocked other gates or is B8X a bus gate and the planes were parked elsewhere? I've flown through B a few times since the renovations were complete and didn't remember there being a B8X. I also thought that Massport/AA had designed the gates to only accommodate up to a 767 without blocking.


B8 fits 777s and a330s at an angle and closes b10. Back when US flew the a330 on BOS-CLT they used B8 as well... not sure what the X is about. Looks the like a330 left just a few minutes before the 777 arrived.

johhn14 wrote:
X = 10

Pure speculation, but does B8X potentially indicate 10 is closed as well?

“<Gate#>X” is standard AA nomenclature that the flight/equipment combo for the gate will use the alternate (widebody) lead-in line for that flight.

At the least, DFW and LAX also have gates that can be designated with the X.

I don’t know the official answer, but have seen it stated elsewhere that the gate assignment is intended for ground crews and gate agents (to guide the plane in on the correct line and have the jetbridge positioned properly,) but it just naturally makes it onto the FIDS and app.


That makes sense. B8 is a tight fit for a widebody so the alternate lead line is at a very different angle than the regular one. The alley way there offers no room for error with 777s and a330s.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:42 pm

BA213 is downgauged from a 744 to a 789 today.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:01 pm

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Using the popular Johns Hopkins web page, the trend is positive: the number of confirmed cases is flattening out while the number of 'fully recovered' is steeply climbing.


Using said website: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

In the lower right corner you can find the graph which indicates 3 data points: 1. Mainline China Cases, 2. New Cases in Other Locations, and 3. Total Recovered Cases.

I would argue that the number of confirmed cases in china is flattening out. However new cases in other locations is increasing. Which is why we are starting to see increasing aircraft swaps, and route suspensions.

I would expect that the FCO flights are all suspended since the whole country is now quarantined.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:53 am

I cannot speak for how the Coronavirus epidemic is affecting international flights but in the last few weeks, I've been on BOS-PHL(x2), PHL-BOS, IND-BOS on AA and DL. I was surprised that despite all the concerns with the virus, the flights were still completely full.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:37 am

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-06mar20/

AZ have reduced FCO to 3 weekly from 3/8 to 3/21
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:20 pm

NickolayAv wrote:
I cannot speak for how the Coronavirus epidemic is affecting international flights but in the last few weeks, I've been on BOS-PHL(x2), PHL-BOS, IND-BOS on AA and DL. I was surprised that despite all the concerns with the virus, the flights were still completely full.

It's never been cheaper to fly. As someone who likes to ski, this season has been amazing in the Rockies and I know many people who are taking advantage of the cheap fares to take weekend ski trips, including taking kids out of school to do it. I myself will be doing that in a couple of weeks. There are many people out there (myself included), who are not falling for the hysteria.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 6:12 pm

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-10mar20/

If I am reading this correctly, PVG-BOS is gone until October now, it appears PEK is still around at this point.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 8:22 pm

One of my company's key shows is SEMICON China, an event that was originally supposed to happen next week and one at which our CTO had a keynote speech to give.

Anyway, the new dates of the event are June 27-29. In the correspondences to exhibitors SEMI officials say this:

"...We are strongly encouraged by the declining number of new cases of COVID-19 and the improving containment within China..."
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 12:23 pm

ChrisNH38 wrote:
One of my company's key shows is SEMICON China, an event that was originally supposed to happen next week and one at which our CTO had a keynote speech to give.

Anyway, the new dates of the event are June 27-29. In the correspondences to exhibitors SEMI officials say this:

"...We are strongly encouraged by the declining number of new cases of COVID-19 and the improving containment within China..."


How your company feel about containment within China does not matter. Beijing is now enforcing a 14 day quarantine on people coming into the country, because they are getting almost as many new cases from outside. This will probably spread to Shanghai and other major cities if they continue to import more cases.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:02 pm

I'm flying B6 2283 (6:00 AM BOS-RDU) tomorrow morning and when going to check in this morning I found that it was upguaged from the typical E190 to an A320. Outside of when they put N632JB on the route last may during the NHL Eastern Conference Finals when the Bruins were playing the Canes, how often does this happen?

Also, should I be concerned that this morning's B6 2283 was canceled on a day with good weather on both ends?
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:06 pm

We'll see later this month how bad the load factors are for flights to/from Boston/Logan, but some stats gathered by WCVB in Boston on Tuesday give some perspective of the drop.

Data provided by TSA: passengers going through security checkpoint at Logan
Week of 2/24 – 3/1
2019 2020 % Change
383,111 366,049 -4.5%

Week of 3/2 – 3/8
2019 2020 % Change
404,284 350,742 -13.2%
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:09 pm

Globe article and pretty much sums what you have mentioned in the stats. The picture is Terminal B and I have rarely ever seen it being completely empty unless I am coming out late night.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/10/ ... rs-spread/

It will be interesting to see if there are destination cuts especially in the domestic space. Flights that have low load factors would be interesting to see if they are going to be in the chopping block.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:43 pm

Looks like Austrian will be delaying their start of service to June 2nd. Not surprised.

"All mentioned destinations remain accessible via other Lufthansa Group hubs, such as Frankfurt. Affected passengers will be rebooked accordingly. The planned first flight to Boston will be postponed from 29 March to 2 June. There will be no flights to Tel Aviv until 24 April."
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 7:06 pm

I think its safe to say at this point, the chances of BOS getting the same numbers as 2019 are looking more remote by the day, if not the hour, the question then becomes how much are we actually going to lose. With reports of 13% down in a week, is certainly alarming albeit at a relatively quiet time of year, if this continues into the summer season, we are going to see a world of hurt for everyone.
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