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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:16 pm

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Is there any reason why DFW never sees the AA A320? I just realized earlier that I have never seen one there or on any of the apps incoming or departing.

There are a few. Don't know the number but it is low enough that DFW is treated as an outstation for the A320. I do recall flying one last year, as we took a significant delay because one of the pilots ran out of hours, and there was no reserve or spare pilot available locally. We had to wait until another A320 pilot reached the end of his/her legal rest and transited over from their hotel to leave.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 7:49 am

DL interactive network map shows SEA-DFW starting June 8, three daily. Is this news or did I miss an earlier announcement?
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:18 am

An Emirates A380 came to DFW today. It was going to IAH and apparently had a scheduled fuel stop in DFW...

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 2#24062aee
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:27 am

Vvvinz wrote:
DL interactive network map shows SEA-DFW starting June 8, three daily. Is this news or did I miss an earlier announcement?


Nothing has been announced. According to the map, it's 3x daily on an A220 running until August 27?

However, the flight isn't bookable on Delta's website.

Though, I think the interactive map can be a bit inaccurate sometimes.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:17 am

Ishrion wrote:
An Emirates A380 came to DFW today. It was going to IAH and apparently had a scheduled fuel stop in DFW...

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 2#24062aee

Actually, the plane stopped in DFW on the return leg, doing a IAH-DFW-DXB route. It was a planned stop, but I don't know the reason. Houston is having water quality issues throughout town due to a main leak, perhaps they could not load enough water for the flight back to DXB.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:37 pm

blueflyer wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
An Emirates A380 came to DFW today. It was going to IAH and apparently had a scheduled fuel stop in DFW...

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 2#24062aee

Actually, the plane stopped in DFW on the return leg, doing a IAH-DFW-DXB route. It was a planned stop, but I don't know the reason. Houston is having water quality issues throughout town due to a main leak, perhaps they could not load enough water for the flight back to DXB.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:39 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Vvvinz wrote:
DL interactive network map shows SEA-DFW starting June 8, three daily. Is this news or did I miss an earlier announcement?


Nothing has been announced. According to the map, it's 3x daily on an A220 running until August 27?

However, the flight isn't bookable on Delta's website.

Though, I think the interactive map can be a bit inaccurate sometimes.
It would not be surprising given all of the commotion AA has made at SEA and BOS the last couple weeks.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:44 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Vvvinz wrote:
DL interactive network map shows SEA-DFW starting June 8, three daily. Is this news or did I miss an earlier announcement?


Nothing has been announced. According to the map, it's 3x daily on an A220 running until August 27?

However, the flight isn't bookable on Delta's website.

Though, I think the interactive map can be a bit inaccurate sometimes.


I found it on DL's website.

Wow, I guess the AS/AA & DL battle is heating up!
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:44 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Vvvinz wrote:
DL interactive network map shows SEA-DFW starting June 8, three daily. Is this news or did I miss an earlier announcement?


Nothing has been announced. According to the map, it's 3x daily on an A220 running until August 27?

However, the flight isn't bookable on Delta's website.

Though, I think the interactive map can be a bit inaccurate sometimes.


It’s loaded - though only bookable in First at the moment. My guess is inventory will open up tomorrow as today is DL schedule change Saturday
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 2:27 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Vvvinz wrote:
DL interactive network map shows SEA-DFW starting June 8, three daily. Is this news or did I miss an earlier announcement?


Nothing has been announced. According to the map, it's 3x daily on an A220 running until August 27?

However, the flight isn't bookable on Delta's website.

Though, I think the interactive map can be a bit inaccurate sometimes.

It's going past 8/27 for me while booking in First.

Great news to hear! We have been expecting this route for a long time. Finally DL pulls the trigger on it.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:31 pm

blueflyer wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
An Emirates A380 came to DFW today. It was going to IAH and apparently had a scheduled fuel stop in DFW...

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 2#24062aee

Actually, the plane stopped in DFW on the return leg, doing a IAH-DFW-DXB route. It was a planned stop, but I don't know the reason. Houston is having water quality issues throughout town due to a main leak, perhaps they could not load enough water for the flight back to DXB.


Ah, wasn't looking at it right. Bad idea at 1:00 a.m.

Also thanks guys, I'm seeing the SEA-DFW flight now.

Schedule:
DL2323 SEA0730 - 1330DFW
DL2346 SEA1045 - 1645DFW
DL2189 SEA1730 - 2330DFW

DL2146 DFW0715 - 0930DFW
DL2323 DFW1400 - 1615SEA
DL2346 DFW1730- 1945DFW
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 8:19 pm

If someone gets through security... can the terminals be sterilized quickly so they can operate as satellites at DFW.

I do not recall seeing big gates or doors in place for such disruptions but could be mistaken. A lot of smaller airports are so interconnected this just is not as much an easy possibility.

Denver also sees like an airport built for the future.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:21 am

There will be two QF A380's on the ground in DFW today (01MAR)

QF7/29Feb was significantly delayed ex SYD. ETA into DFW on 01Mar at 12:32LT rego is VH-OQB (now known as QF7D)

QF7/01MAR departed SYD on time with and ETA into DFW 01MAR at 12:20LT rego is VH-OQK
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:22 pm

Well... Qantas will be replacing the A380 on SYD-DFW with the 787-9 from April 20 to mid-September.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:35 pm

blueflyer wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
An Emirates A380 came to DFW today. It was going to IAH and apparently had a scheduled fuel stop in DFW...

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 2#24062aee

Actually, the plane stopped in DFW on the return leg, doing a IAH-DFW-DXB route. It was a planned stop, but I don't know the reason. Houston is having water quality issues throughout town due to a main leak, perhaps they could not load enough water for the flight back to DXB.


Water quality issues in Houston? You don’t say. Perhaps it’s because they get their water from Lake Livingston on the Trinity River. In Dallas we say, “Flush twice...”, well you know the rest.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 1:13 am

Ishrion wrote:
Well... Qantas will be replacing the A380 on SYD-DFW with the 787-9 from April 20 to mid-September.


I find that surprising.... the QF rep that regularly visited out " Very Big Travel Agency" said he wanted to keep the 380's
on the DFW runs because their sales in F class were very good. Guess he lost the debate with the home office :)
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 4:32 am

Sooner787 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Well... Qantas will be replacing the A380 on SYD-DFW with the 787-9 from April 20 to mid-September.


I find that surprising.... the QF rep that regularly visited out " Very Big Travel Agency" said he wanted to keep the 380's
on the DFW runs because their sales in F class were very good. Guess he lost the debate with the home office :)


It’s because of the coronavirus. They’re grounding all but two A380s and suspending a bunch of routes.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:23 pm

jmw99ttu wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Well... Qantas will be replacing the A380 on SYD-DFW with the 787-9 from April 20 to mid-September.


I find that surprising.... the QF rep that regularly visited out " Very Big Travel Agency" said he wanted to keep the 380's
on the DFW runs because their sales in F class were very good. Guess he lost the debate with the home office :)


It’s because of the coronavirus. They’re grounding all but two A380s and suspending a bunch of routes.


I heard that LH was parking their whales for awhile , but hadn't heard QF would be doing the same thing.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:47 pm

Does anyone have a list of the gate allocations at DFW? I know terminals A, B, and C are all AA, but what are the gate assignments for D and E?
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:56 pm

Brandon757 wrote:
Does anyone have a list of the gate allocations at DFW? I know terminals A, B, and C are all AA, but what are the gate assignments for D and E?


You can find it on the DFW website if you poke around a bit. Looks like AA has D 17-40 and E 22-30 (satellite terminal) and 34-38.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:34 pm

Brandon757 wrote:
Does anyone have a list of the gate allocations at DFW? I know terminals A, B, and C are all AA, but what are the gate assignments for D and E?


FWIK

A:
all mainline AA

B:
B1-B4 AA Eagle
B5-12: Mainline AA
B14-B49: AA Eagle (E175/CRJ 900)

C:
All Mainline AA

D:
D5-16: DFW Board Gates (mainly foreign flag carriers + AA Eagle + Sun Country)... sometimes AA mainline flights will board/deboard out of D14
D17-D40: Mainline AA

E:
E2: Air Canada
E4-E9: United
E10: JetBlue
E11: Alaska
E12-E17: Delta
E18, E21, E31-E33: Spirit
E20: Frontier
E22-E30 (satelite terminal): AA Eagle (mainly Envoy E140/145)
E34-E38: AA Eagle


Feel free to chime in if I missed anything
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:55 pm

LATAM is sending a 763 from Recife to DFW today.

LA#9516.

Unconfirmed, but apparently there was a LATAM 789 at DFW yesterday.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:12 pm

Azerbaijan Airlines is sending a 787-8 here today! Likely a reparation flight.

AHY#4101
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:18 pm

Ishrion wrote:
LATAM is sending a 763 from Recife to DFW today.

LA#9516.

Unconfirmed, but apparently there was a LATAM 789 at DFW yesterday.

Repatriation or cargo?
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:27 pm

blueflyer wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
LATAM is sending a 763 from Recife to DFW today.

LA#9516.

Unconfirmed, but apparently there was a LATAM 789 at DFW yesterday.

Repatriation or cargo?


Likely repatriation. Apparently the 763 today is PT-MOC.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 7:45 pm

DFW17L wrote:
blueflyer wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
An Emirates A380 came to DFW today. It was going to IAH and apparently had a scheduled fuel stop in DFW...

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 2#24062aee

Actually, the plane stopped in DFW on the return leg, doing a IAH-DFW-DXB route. It was a planned stop, but I don't know the reason. Houston is having water quality issues throughout town due to a main leak, perhaps they could not load enough water for the flight back to DXB.


Water quality issues in Houston? You don’t say. Perhaps it’s because they get their water from Lake Livingston on the Trinity River. In Dallas we say, “Flush twice...”, well you know the rest.


Houston does not get water from Lake Livingston, not sure where you got that. The water issue was due to a major pipe burst at a construction site requiring a state issue boil order even if testing was clean. Houston's water actually has normally tested better than Dallas' but I digress. Ft Worth has had a superior water system at least.

As for the current topics, UA just axed all long haul flying, and my AA sources expect similar. Rumour is DFW could keep one LHR flight at least initially. We should know by Monday.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:40 am

FlyingSicilian wrote:
As for the current topics, UA just axed all long haul flying, and my AA sources expect similar. Rumour is DFW could keep one LHR flight at least initially. We should know by Monday.


As far as passengers are concerned, I doubt AA would even run DFW-LHR given the current travel restrictions to Europe (which recently included an expansion of said ban to the UK and Ireland). If there are any flights between DFW and LHR, it will likely be cargo only.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:45 am

Vvvinz wrote:
DL interactive network map shows SEA-DFW starting June 8, three daily. Is this news or did I miss an earlier announcement?


This was the only article I could find that's not behind a paywall:

https://thepointsguy.com/news/delta-add ... ort-worth/

But, yes, DL was going forward with DFW-SEA; whether or not that's still happening post-COVID19 remains to be seen.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:53 am

ctrabs0114 wrote:
FlyingSicilian wrote:
As for the current topics, UA just axed all long haul flying, and my AA sources expect similar. Rumour is DFW could keep one LHR flight at least initially. We should know by Monday.


As far as passengers are concerned, I doubt AA would even run DFW-LHR given the current travel restrictions to Europe (which recently included an expansion of said ban to the UK and Ireland). If there are any flights between DFW and LHR, it will likely be cargo only.


After the UK ban was announced, AA stated that during the ban period the 2 remaining LHR flights would be DFW/MIA, 1 flight each. No changes have been announced to this schedule.


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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:00 am

FlyingSicilian wrote:

As for the current topics, UA just axed all long haul flying, and my AA sources expect similar. Rumour is DFW could keep one LHR flight at least initially. We should know by Monday.


Except United just reversed that announcement. They’ll continue to operate 6 daily long-haul flights.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:33 am

I apologize for the plug, but here's the AZAL bird taxiing in today for anyone interested! Anyone gonna try to get her departure? I heard conflicting information. One said 8 AM departure tomorrow (3/22) while the other said Monday morning.

 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:31 pm

KPDX wrote:
I apologize for the plug, but here's the AZAL bird taxiing in today for anyone interested! Anyone gonna try to get her departure? I heard conflicting information. One said 8 AM departure tomorrow (3/22) while the other said Monday morning.



Awesome. Thank you!
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:56 pm

stevend08 wrote:
Brandon757 wrote:
Does anyone have a list of the gate allocations at DFW? I know terminals A, B, and C are all AA, but what are the gate assignments for D and E?


FWIK

A:
all mainline AA

B:
B1-B4 AA Eagle
B5-12: Mainline AA
B14-B49: AA Eagle (E175/CRJ 900)

C:
All Mainline AA

D:
D5-16: DFW Board Gates (mainly foreign flag carriers + AA Eagle + Sun Country)... sometimes AA mainline flights will board/deboard out of D14
D17-D40: Mainline AA

E:
E2: Air Canada
E4-E9: United
E10: JetBlue
E11: Alaska
E12-E17: Delta
E18, E21, E31-E33: Spirit
E20: Frontier
E22-E30 (satelite terminal): AA Eagle (mainly Envoy E140/145)
E34-E38: AA Eagle


Feel free to chime in if I missed anything

Thanks! That is what I was looking for.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:09 am

Air Europa is sending a 787-9 to repatriate U.S. students from Madrid.

UX843 set to arrive around 7:21 a.m. March 26.
 
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:08 pm

And buying a few extra planning/construction years as far as demand goes is probably not a bad thing. DFW was nearing capacity without relief in sight. This allows for a little catch-up time. But in the grand scheme of things will be just a blip on DFWs long term needs and plans.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:34 pm

UpNAWAy wrote:
And buying a few extra planning/construction years as far as demand goes is probably not a bad thing. DFW was nearing capacity without relief in sight. This allows for a little catch-up time. But in the grand scheme of things will be just a blip on DFWs long term needs and plans.


Time to think about a third commercial airport in the area? Somewhere near Fort Worth since Dallas already has Love?
 
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:42 pm

TKI, perhaps?
 
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:45 pm

Delta28L wrote:
UpNAWAy wrote:
And buying a few extra planning/construction years as far as demand goes is probably not a bad thing. DFW was nearing capacity without relief in sight. This allows for a little catch-up time. But in the grand scheme of things will be just a blip on DFWs long term needs and plans.


Time to think about a third commercial airport in the area? Somewhere near Fort Worth since Dallas already has Love?



No, I don't think so. DFW can still expand so much. If anything, a new airport would be in McKinney (TKI). I'm a little closer to that than DFW, but I still don't see the need for TKI when you can still do so much expanding at DFW.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Apr 13, 2020 4:50 pm

UpNAWAy wrote:
And buying a few extra planning/construction years as far as demand goes is probably not a bad thing. DFW was nearing capacity without relief in sight. This allows for a little catch-up time. But in the grand scheme of things will be just a blip on DFWs long term needs and plans.


Yes, this is just a blip from a passenger count long term; however, they still need to proceed with Terminal-F sooner rather than later because it's not going to actually add capacity.

Terminal-C can't last too much longer and you are either A. going to have to take it out of service for renovation or B. tear it down and build another terminal in its place.

Either way, it would be probably a decade from now before there is an actual capacity increase given this situation with Terminal - C. It could boost capacity short term while operating C and the new Terminal F, but again, C has to go at some point in the not too distant future.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:38 pm

Delta28L wrote:
UpNAWAy wrote:
And buying a few extra planning/construction years as far as demand goes is probably not a bad thing. DFW was nearing capacity without relief in sight. This allows for a little catch-up time. But in the grand scheme of things will be just a blip on DFWs long term needs and plans.


Time to think about a third commercial airport in the area? Somewhere near Fort Worth since Dallas already has Love?


FTW is already available. Pre-covid Breeze was likely. If the city invested they could possible draw some ULCC also, but before Breeze were not willing to since Mesa left.
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:50 pm

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Plus..... prudent to pause and wait until they know what AA's future is.

Figure they file BK and emerge a smaller carrier or they file BK and get taken over

by UA or DL,
 
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Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:51 pm

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dfdubflyer wrote:



Plus..... prudent to pause and wait until they know what AA's future is.

Figure they file BK and emerge a smaller carrier or they file BK and get taken over

by UA or DL,



AA will not be taken over by UA, DL or anyone else for that matter. That's just silly.

Could they file for bankruptcy protection? Absolutely.
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:57 pm

FlyingSicilian wrote:
Delta28L wrote:
UpNAWAy wrote:
And buying a few extra planning/construction years as far as demand goes is probably not a bad thing. DFW was nearing capacity without relief in sight. This allows for a little catch-up time. But in the grand scheme of things will be just a blip on DFWs long term needs and plans.


Time to think about a third commercial airport in the area? Somewhere near Fort Worth since Dallas already has Love?


FTW is already available. Pre-covid Breeze was likely. If the city invested they could possible draw some ULCC also, but before Breeze were not willing to since Mesa left.


was always hoping that CO would have done IAH-FTW back in the day and still miss access for IAH-DAL.

But agree, I think FTW would have been great for Breeze.
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:00 pm

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Delta28L wrote:
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And buying a few extra planning/construction years as far as demand goes is probably not a bad thing. DFW was nearing capacity without relief in sight. This allows for a little catch-up time. But in the grand scheme of things will be just a blip on DFWs long term needs and plans.


Time to think about a third commercial airport in the area? Somewhere near Fort Worth since Dallas already has Love?


FTW is already available. Pre-covid Breeze was likely. If the city invested they could possible draw some ULCC also, but before Breeze were not willing to since Mesa left.


Part of the agreement to repeal the Wright Amendment included language that would prevent commercial air service from any other airports within an 80 mile radius of Love Field. Not sure if that provision has an expiration date or not. This would rule out any service from Tarrant or Collin counties. Does anyone know more on that rule?
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:05 pm

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Plus..... prudent to pause and wait until they know what AA's future is.

Figure they file BK and emerge a smaller carrier or they file BK and get taken over

by UA or DL,



AA will not be taken over by UA, DL or anyone else for that matter. That's just silly.

Could they file for bankruptcy protection? Absolutely.

People who come up with the conclusion AA is going to be taken over by UA or DL are usually UA or DL fan boys. Best take some comments around here with a grain of salt.

Yep, I can picture a maneuver like that playing real well with the TX politicians (many who are friendly with this admin). Seeing all those jobs in North TX go by the wayside to an ILL or a GA based company, not a chance.


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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:27 pm

jmw99ttu wrote:
FlyingSicilian wrote:
Delta28L wrote:

Time to think about a third commercial airport in the area? Somewhere near Fort Worth since Dallas already has Love?


FTW is already available. Pre-covid Breeze was likely. If the city invested they could possible draw some ULCC also, but before Breeze were not willing to since Mesa left.


Part of the agreement to repeal the Wright Amendment included language that would prevent commercial air service from any other airports within an 80 mile radius of Love Field. Not sure if that provision has an expiration date or not. This would rule out any service from Tarrant or Collin counties. Does anyone know more on that rule?


That is incorrect. The language says that the cities of Dallas and Fort Worth will not champion service to airports within 80 miles - and technically, that ended in 2014. Any other city could do whatever they wanted to (like McKinney). Only WN and AA are precluded from offering service (per sections 10 and 11 linked below).

"The Cities agree that they will both oppose efforts to initiate commercial passenger air service at any area airport other than DFW Airport (and Love Field, subject to the provisions contained herein) during the eight-year period. '"Commercial passenger air service" docs not include a spaceport or air taxi service as defined by Pan 135 of the Federal Aviation Regulations. The Cities agree to jointly oppose any attempts to repeal or further modify the Wright Amendment earlier than the eight-year period. To the extent any other airport \\ithin an eighty-mile radius of Love Field seeks to initiate scheduled commercial passenger service within this eight-year period. both the Cities agree to work diligently to bring that service to DFW Airpon. or if that effort fails. then to airports owned by the Cities of Dallas and/or Fort Worth."

https://www.dallas-lovefield.com/home/s ... nt?id=1616
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Fri May 01, 2020 3:13 pm

Another Azerbaijan 787-8 repatriation flight inbound from Atyrau today

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... s#246e615b
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Fri May 01, 2020 3:38 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Another Azerbaijan 787-8 repatriation flight inbound from Atyrau today

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... s#246e615b


Did you say another?

Yesterday, I saw a 787 (not AA) on final in to 17L. At the outer marker, they turned due west and cut across the 17s and 18s. Maybe they wanted to use 18R and come in to Term D?
 
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Re: Dallas/Fort Worth Aviation Thread (DFW/DAL) - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:34 pm

Delta has scheduled an Airbus A350-900 charter from LAX set to arrive at 11:33 AM tomorrow.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/dl8837

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