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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat May 30, 2020 12:07 pm

A new DL TATL route ????? :bouncy:

- 30 May 2020 ATL 13.30 - SSC 14.30 DL8820 B772 N701DN
- 30 May 2020 SSC 17.30 - AMS 07.30 DL8956 B772 N701DN

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n701dn
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat May 30, 2020 12:13 pm

Taxi Test for Delta A359 N514DN at TLS (29 May)

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https://twitter.com/CAlloing/status/126 ... 41568?s=20
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat May 30, 2020 1:07 pm

factsonly wrote:
A new DL TATL route ????? :bouncy:

- 30 May 2020 ATL 13.30 - SSC 14.30 DL8820 B772 N701DN
- 30 May 2020 SSC 17.30 - AMS 07.30 DL8956 B772 N701DN

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n701dn


SSC = Shaw Air Force Base, Sumter, South Carolina....most likely military transport for this:
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8957
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat May 30, 2020 1:10 pm

Delete please
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat May 30, 2020 9:48 pm

qf789 wrote:
Taxi Test for Delta A359 N514DN at TLS (29 May)

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https://twitter.com/CAlloing/status/126 ... 41568?s=20


When will Delta take delivery of this plane? This is their 14th A350?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat May 30, 2020 10:58 pm

Nobody knows.....it's been the flightline since early FEB I believe

atlflyer wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Taxi Test for Delta A359 N514DN at TLS (29 May)

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https://twitter.com/CAlloing/status/126 ... 41568?s=20


When will Delta take delivery of this plane? This is their 14th A350?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sun May 31, 2020 6:51 am

atlflyer wrote:
When will Delta take delivery of this plane? This is their 14th A350?


Usually? 20 to 30 days from taxi to delivery-ready pre-covid.

We're in the covid though, and sometimes you would need some extra time to accept. I'd say July, or late June if they need them ASAP.

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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:42 pm

N831MH planned to be deployed for the re-instated DL46

Source: https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-d ... 1038083643
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:47 am

Can the suites and the Y seats from the 777 fleet be re used on the Airbus wide bodies ?

I know the PY seats and IFE units should not have a problem, but what about the suites

Regards/

Karan
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:23 pm

karan69 wrote:
Can the suites and the Y seats from the 777 fleet be re used on the Airbus wide bodies ?

I know the PY seats and IFE units should not have a problem, but what about the suites

Regards/

Karan

The Y seats won’t fit on the Airbuses, unsure about J.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:41 pm

karan69 wrote:
Can the suites and the Y seats from the 777 fleet be re used on the Airbus wide bodies ?

I know the PY seats and IFE units should not have a problem, but what about the suites

Regards/

Karan

I have to imagine they could modify the J seats in some way to use them, and the Y seats could be resold since there's nothing proprietary about them. The A350 Y seats are a unique design compared to the rest of the fleet.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:46 pm

The D1 Suites on the 777s as they currently are, are wider than those on the A359s, so they will not fit as-is. I have no idea how difficult or easy it would be to modify them (e.g., thinner door or frame) to fit on the A359s or if it's even possible at all.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 7:19 pm

Just found out that 1705 is no longer in the SkyTeam livery. I wish they had kept that livery on a handful of planes but they have been re-painting those planes back into the normal livery.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Thu Jun 04, 2020 8:32 pm

The 4 remaining A359s in storage are now scheduled to leave BYH on Friday & Saturday. It appears all A359s will now be active.
https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KBYH/scheduled
2 BYH-DTW on Friday
2 BYH-MSP on Saturday
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 7:16 pm

Any idea why Delta is sending an A330-300 on the resumes ATL-LHR Route, and not a refurbished 767-400?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:11 pm

NateGreat wrote:
Any idea why Delta is sending an A330-300 on the resumes ATL-LHR Route, and not a refurbished 767-400?


Probably because they need the capacity given the social distancing requirements aboard the aircraft. Things may reshuffle in the event that they can ease social distancing, but at least through the end of the summer, they aren't going to go out over +/- 60% full.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:00 am

TW870 wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
Any idea why Delta is sending an A330-300 on the resumes ATL-LHR Route, and not a refurbished 767-400?


Probably because they need the capacity given the social distancing requirements aboard the aircraft. Things may reshuffle in the event that they can ease social distancing, but at least through the end of the summer, they aren't going to go out over +/- 60% full.

IIRC LHR has some cargo contracts. With the 60%(its more like 57% once its averaged out cap we should be able to get roughly 30t of cargo on the A333. Assuming a DOW of around 126-128t and a 175t MZFW, "full" would be 167 pax, assume that as 16.7 tons, that'll give 31.3t of cargo.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 3:28 am

TW870 wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
Any idea why Delta is sending an A330-300 on the resumes ATL-LHR Route, and not a refurbished 767-400?


Probably because they need the capacity given the social distancing requirements aboard the aircraft. Things may reshuffle in the event that they can ease social distancing, but at least through the end of the summer, they aren't going to go out over +/- 60% full.

Will the social distancing requirements be over by the October-December timeframe?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:14 am

NateGreat wrote:
TW870 wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
Any idea why Delta is sending an A330-300 on the resumes ATL-LHR Route, and not a refurbished 767-400?


Probably because they need the capacity given the social distancing requirements aboard the aircraft. Things may reshuffle in the event that they can ease social distancing, but at least through the end of the summer, they aren't going to go out over +/- 60% full.

Will the social distancing requirements be over by the October-December timeframe?

Yes
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:18 pm

Delta350 wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
TW870 wrote:

Probably because they need the capacity given the social distancing requirements aboard the aircraft. Things may reshuffle in the event that they can ease social distancing, but at least through the end of the summer, they aren't going to go out over +/- 60% full.

Will the social distancing requirements be over by the October-December timeframe?

Yes


How do you know? That’s the beginning of flu season, I imagine things could be even worse by then.

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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:33 pm

Delta Airlines A359 N514DN MSN 395 customer acceptance flight TLS-TLS (8 Jun)

ImageAIB03GA msn395 caf 8/6/2020 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:40 pm

All B772ER going to fly with the recovery or some are retired already ?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:27 pm

danipawa wrote:
All B772ER going to fly with the recovery or some are retired already ?

There’s rumor they’ll keep the 77L
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 7:36 pm

SESGDL wrote:
Delta350 wrote:
NateGreat wrote:
Will the social distancing requirements be over by the October-December timeframe?

Yes


How do you know? That’s the beginning of flu season, I imagine things could be even worse by then.

Jeremy


Lol right? This isn’t the thread to debate that, but one thing we can be certain on is there is no certainty. A flat “yes” is just wrong.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:13 pm

Delta350 wrote:
danipawa wrote:
All B772ER going to fly with the recovery or some are retired already ?

There’s rumor they’ll keep the 77L


I'm not sure who you heard the rumor from or when but Delta has already announced that it [entire B777 fleet] will be retired. It makes no sense for them to keep a very small fleet of 777L.
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:35 pm

A333MSPtoAMS wrote:
Delta350 wrote:
danipawa wrote:
All B772ER going to fly with the recovery or some are retired already ?

There’s rumor they’ll keep the 77L


I'm not sure who you heard the rumor from or when but Delta has already announced that it [entire B777 fleet] will be retired. It makes no sense for them to keep a very small fleet of 777L.


I have a feeling that the 777 maybe done for now... I am scheduled on a 777-200ER flight ATL-AMSs which just was swapped for A330-300. Just one case not sure if that is all 777 getting switched across the board.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:44 pm

gsg013 wrote:
I have a feeling that the 777 maybe done for now...


Here's the language of the press release from a few weeks ago:

Delta plans to retire its 18 widebody Boeing 777s by the end of 2020.

We can question whether DL would actually bring any out of storage only to retire them permanently in a few months but planespotters.net shows seven in service presently.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Mon Jun 15, 2020 2:29 pm

Regarding the 77E/77L:

DL is actively still flying a portion of both sub-fleets in a combination of scheduled passenger, cargo, and military charter service.
There is also a portion of both fleets that are in storage.

There has been no definitive statements on how DL intends dispose of the the 77E & 77L fleet. Whether that be sell or part-out & scrap.
None of the 77E & 77L have been permanently retired, nor would they be yet until their future disposition is determined.
The aircraft stored in BHM will eventually be flown out as the vendor at that location doesn't do part-out & scrap, and whether that be returned to service for DL, flown out to take possession by another owner, or moved to longer-term storage in the desert storage facilities (e.g., MZJ, VCV) remains to be seen.

Its also unclear if any in storage may return temporarily before being removed from service by DL
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:08 am

So as announced, DL will be opening an A350 pilot base in ATL (along with LAX, and the existing DTW base). Other than ATL-JNB/CPT, what routes from ATL might the A350 be used on?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:16 am

A350s are likely to cover any of the 77E/77L routes previously flown from ATL, plus what has been A350 at times.

ATL-HND
ATL-ICN
ATL-PVG

ATL-JNB/CPT

ATL-AMS
ATL-CDG
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:29 am

Look at where A350 range is needed. 777s ATL-AMS and ATL-CDG could be discounted as utilization flying, or as working aircraft into rotation. I don't think certain routes of the past will necessarily predict the future. There aren't a lot of 350s to spread across three bases - and there won't be for a while.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:32 am

Yep the ATL-TATL and DTW-TATL flying was utilization flying that can easily be covered by 76W or A330s.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:34 am

kavok wrote:
So as announced, DL will be opening an A350 pilot base in ATL (along with LAX, and the existing DTW base). Other than ATL-JNB/CPT, what routes from ATL might the A350 be used on?

I would think that anything the 777 currently operates/used to operate from ATL and LAX will switch to the A350 once the 777s are retired. Some have said that the A330neo will do LAX to Asia, like how they operate from SEA, but that makes no sense as unlike SEA, LAX is not A330 base, and the A330neo was meant to replace the 767 on TATL routes. The A350s will handle Asia and ULH routes from ATL, DTW, and LAX, while the A330neo will likely handle select TATL routes once they start TATL routes from SEA.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:42 pm

DL needs 280t A359s for the three ULR routes; they may have 2 on property. Im sure they knew they needed more of a certain type of A359, and they probably know how they are going to get them. My question is, with the CPT tag, can ATL-JNB-CPT-ATL be done with 2 A359s?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 6:59 pm

Also, any chance C+ seats get added to the new 359s? Or will the current seating configuration remain? (Not that C+ is really any different than Y on long haul international anyway, save a few inches of legroom).
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:14 pm

kavok wrote:
Also, any chance C+ seats get added to the new 359s? Or will the current seating configuration remain? (Not that C+ is really any different than Y on long haul international anyway, save a few inches of legroom).


The new delivieries including the one that just had it's customer flight will have C+ installed. With Covid going on i'm not sure when retrofits will happen.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jun 23, 2020 3:28 am

Delta A359 N515DN MSN 404, engine run and taxi test at TLS (22 Jun)

ImageA350-941 MSN404 F-WZNO by Alan PARDOE, on Flickr
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:16 am

Interesting one-off DL A359 routing:

25 Jun 2020 DTW - SOF DL8963 A359 N504DN
26 Jun 2020 SOF - KWI DL8962 A359 N504DN
27 Jun 2020 KWI - SOF DL8822 A359 N504DN
28 Jun 2020 SOF - NUE DL8823 A359 N504DN
28 Jun 2020 NUE - SVN DL8962 A359 N504DN
28 Jun 2020 SVN - DTW DL8824 A359 N504DN

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n504dn
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:24 am

factsonly wrote:
Interesting one-off DL A359 routing:

25 Jun 2020 DTW - SOF DL8963 A359 N504DN
26 Jun 2020 SOF - KWI DL8962 A359 N504DN
27 Jun 2020 KWI - SOF DL8822 A359 N504DN
28 Jun 2020 SOF - NUE DL8823 A359 N504DN
28 Jun 2020 NUE - SVN DL8962 A359 N504DN
28 Jun 2020 SVN - DTW DL8824 A359 N504DN

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n504dn


It’s a military charter
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:58 pm

Long time no see: A359 hopping the pond, making a comeback to AMS, DL134/135 this evening planned with N507DN

https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-d ... 1039397067
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:23 pm

Delta resumes passenger 777 flights today.

DL41 LAX-SYD operated by N709DN and DL27 ATL-ICN operated by N860DA.

https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL41/
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL27/
Flown: 2L 7C 9E 9L AA AB AC AF AY AZ BA BR BX B6 CA CO CP CX DL EK EY JL KE KL LA LH LX MQ NW OZ PD RW SQ TG TP TR TS US WG WN WS XE XJ
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:00 am

FlyingHonu001 wrote:
Long time no see: A359 hopping the pond, making a comeback to AMS, DL134/135 this evening planned with N507DN

https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-d ... 1039397067

These flights actually ended up being flown by N512DN. There must have been a last minute swap as the outbound flight departed over 4 hours late!

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n512dn
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 10, 2020 7:55 pm

N509DN scheduled for DL8823/8824 DTW - AMS - DWC...One of a kind cargo charter?

https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-d ... 1040075937
https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-d ... 1040075945
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:09 am

N805NW on homebound thru DL9930 after DL73 AMS - ATL was aborted mid-TATL due to technical issues

https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-d ... 1041058663
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:32 am

FlyingHonu001 wrote:
N805NW on homebound thru DL9930 after DL73 AMS - ATL was aborted mid-TATL due to technical issues

https://www.flightstats.com/v2/flight-d ... 1041058663


N805NW apparently had a fenderbender with a bird trying to cross the Atlantic, now scheduled to return to service on today's DL74

Source: http://avherald.com/h?article=4da803b1&opt=0
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:55 pm

DL B77L N703DN is ferrying today from BHM-ATL.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N703DN

Been in storage at BHM since March.

Will it re-enter service before retiring from the fleet?
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 19, 2020 11:18 pm

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
DL B77L N703DN is ferrying today from BHM-ATL.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N703DN

Been in storage at BHM since March.

Will it re-enter service before retiring from the fleet?


It should.

The only 777 frames that have been officially wfu is 7104/5/6 and 7002.

7002 is in BHM last count I had, so I'm not sure if it'll ferry to the desert or be scrapped there. I think one of the engines on it is out of time.
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 12:43 am

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:
DL B77L N703DN is ferrying today from BHM-ATL.
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N703DN

Been in storage at BHM since March.

Will it re-enter service before retiring from the fleet?


Don’t know the answer to this, but I was able to make it to the airport today to watch it leave. Had to back taxi for a portion on runway 6 due to wingspan restriction of 150 on a portion of alpha taxiway. Was pretty neat to watch, got up quick as you could imagine.

I will also say that i saw N701DN (A339) having some work done on the left engine, and some work was being done on N834MH (764). Couldn’t tell you exactly what the work was as it’s hard to tell, and I’m not a specialist in that but will be curious to see what happens to those two ships in the next few weeks
 
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Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:35 am

    gdavis003 wrote:

    I will also say that I saw N701DN (A339) having some work done on the left engine, and some work was being done on N834MH (764). Couldn’t tell you exactly what the work was as it’s hard to tell, and I’m not a specialist in that but will be curious to see what happens to those two ships in the next few weeks


    N701DN is of course a B772, not an A339!
     
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    Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020

    Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:53 am

    audidudi wrote:
      gdavis003 wrote:

      I will also say that I saw N701DN (A339) having some work done on the left engine, and some work was being done on N834MH (764). Couldn’t tell you exactly what the work was as it’s hard to tell, and I’m not a specialist in that but will be curious to see what happens to those two ships in the next few weeks


      N701DN is of course a B772, not an A339!


      My apologies. Mixed up my tail numbers of aircraft stored at BHM. It was N401DZ, an A339, not N701DN, a B772.
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