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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:43 pm

codc10 wrote:
I always wondered how exactly UA was going to shoehorn in another row of F, plus a closet, while keeping total seat count flat... E+ and F legroom most certainly would have suffered mightily.


The configuration looked a little odd, with one pair of F seats on the right side basically sticking out halfway into the economy cabin.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:41 pm

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CR2:
N221PS exited ROS in new livery, entered service with Skywest


ROW, right? Surely UA isn't sending CRJs to Argentina just for repainting... :spin:
This is my signature until I think of a better one.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:58 pm

VC10er wrote:
Any data on how the High-J 763 are doing EWR/LHR?
How many business lie flat BA to JFK are there a day?


Based on this Friday,
UA has 5x EWR-LHR (high-J 763): 230 J seats a day
BA has 8x JFK-LHR, 1x JFK-LCY (6x747 2x772 1xA318): around 646 J seats and 100 F seats a day. BA sometimes switches between 747 and 77W
BA also has 2x EWR-LHR (1x772 and 1x789): another 91 J seats and 16 F seats a day.

Didn't check exact config for each BA flight, I'm assuming they use their high J density aircraft.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Jan 17, 2020 6:10 pm

Have borrowed a post of mine and a reply from the United Fleet 2019 thread, as its updated now.
We were talking about Cargo Weight records at United.
In my post I mentioned how LHR holds all the widebody weight records except the 787-10 and 777-200HD and we intend to bring those two back to Europe in 2020 (because they don't fly from LHR we will be happy that at least Europe holds the records).

It only took 15 days into Jan 2020 to get the 787-10 record, UA056 CDGEWR carried 28,100kg claiming the weight record, along with 237 PAX onboard.

Here are the original posts and reply -

My original post
Hiya,

Just to clarify, I wasn't the load planner and made no claim to be, although I can see how the way I phrased it could be misread as that.
As stated I was involved in the planning of both loads in advance , and worked alongside Ops (load planning in LHR and Willis) to make this happen on the day , I'm a Cargo guy not a Load Planner, so I booked the Cargo loads and planned all in advance.

Now I'm back in the office I have a little more info to hand.

UA925-10th May 2017, 787-9, N35953, 36 Business PAX, 58 Coach PAX - 94 PAX total onboard.
10 x PMC of freight onboard at 78,589LBs, 2 x AKE of Mail in the Bulk Pit at 3049LBs, 2 x AKE Bags boarded and 8 x Bags in the Bulk Pit.
Flight pushed back 5 min late at 16:45, airborne at 17:30 which is 50 min late only, so no extended delay on this flight.

UA028-1st July 2013 , 777-200, N78003, 49 PAX in Business, 178 in Coach, 227 PAX onboard.
Aircraft was a 77Y at the time, now its converted to Polaris config it is redesignated as 77E, a 77E is an old CO 77Y that now has Polaris.
To be honest I question the source of this saying its the 777 Cargo record at UA, as I have no record of it and the Cargo records do not match up, this is a mistake from WHQ I think to call that record at 83,362Lbs, ferry flights do not count as records anyway, only flights with PAX on, but UA028 on that day was not a ferry for sure.

I do know the 777-200 Cargo record at United is still held by LHR anyway at 79,740Lbs, UA925-27th Nov 2013, N786UA was a 77J at the time, now a 77N with Polaris.
7 x First Class PAX, 23 x Business, 63 Coach - total 93 PAX onboard
73,571Lbs of Cargo , 6169LBs of Mail, 83 Bags onboard.

Fun fact, UA LHR holds the weight records for the 747-400 / 767-300 / 767-400 / 777-200(non HD) / 777-300 / 787-8 / 787-9.
We are only missing the 777-200HD and the 787-10, and whilst we wont be getting them in LHR anytime soon as they don't fly here, we intend on bringing those 2 Cargo records home to Europe in 2020



Reply from jetblastdubai
I'm sure most people on here missed the underlying meaning in your post but you got a huge virtual "high five" from me when I read it. This is the kind of competition I love seeing in any company! Setting a goal and working towards earning it is a great morale booster for any group within an organization. The fact that you are actively setting a goal of bring home two more records says a lot about your desire to make your station more profitable as well as gain some more notoriety.

I worked ATC in probably one of the most difficult towers on the planet and almost everyone there busted their back side to push out more and more planes regardless of the pay we took home...it was a personal pride thing and we had more fun than a human being should have while doing it. Our customers knew it too.

 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:55 am

Looks like 752 PS N546UA is in TUP. Storage? Retirement?
Confirmation?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:10 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Looks like 752 PS N546UA is in TUP. Storage? Retirement?
Confirmation?

It’s definitely there... and to my limited knowledge they only ever come out in bits and pieces.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:14 pm

77W
N2250U This item was delivered PAESFO 30DEC. It hasn’t moved since then. Induction normally takes ten days or so. It’s almost three weeks now, so something’s up with this one.. :scratchchin: :stirthepot:
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:58 pm

LGeneReese wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
Looks like 752 PS N546UA is in TUP. Storage? Retirement?
Confirmation?

It’s definitely there... and to my limited knowledge they only ever come out in bits and pieces.

Confirmation here (courtesy of skyliner-aviation.de):

Boeing 757-222 25367 413 N546UA United Airlines ferried 14 Jan 2020 SFO-TUP, for part-out &scrap
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:16 pm

So is the 2nd daily EWR-PVG coming or it just the upgauged 77W!?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:45 pm

Some interesting adjustments for the summer. DEN-LHR/FRA/NRT all go from 788 to 789 in June.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-18jan20/
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:00 pm

x1234 wrote:
So is the 2nd daily EWR-PVG coming or it just the upgauged 77W!?


Both UA and DL have gone silent on their proposed EWR-PVG (second daily) and MSP-PVG routes. Both airlines at the beginning of 2019 said schedule service would begin in Spring 2020. However with Chinese carriers flooding the U.S. market with cheap fares neither of these carriers seem enthusiastic when it comes to adding more flights to China. Right now there are 3 tier 1 slots available to U.S. carriers its amazing how valuable these slots were in 2019 but in 2020 no one is fighting for additional slots to China.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:52 pm

boacboac wrote:
Have borrowed a post of mine and a reply from the United Fleet 2019 thread, as its updated now.
We were talking about Cargo Weight records at United.
In my post I mentioned how LHR holds all the widebody weight records except the 787-10 and 777-200HD and we intend to bring those two back to Europe in 2020 (because they don't fly from LHR we will be happy that at least Europe holds the records).

It only took 15 days into Jan 2020 to get the 787-10 record, UA056 CDGEWR carried 28,100kg claiming the weight record, along with 237 PAX onboard.

Here are the original posts and reply -

My original post
Hiya,

Just to clarify, I wasn't the load planner and made no claim to be, although I can see how the way I phrased it could be misread as that.
As stated I was involved in the planning of both loads in advance , and worked alongside Ops (load planning in LHR and Willis) to make this happen on the day , I'm a Cargo guy not a Load Planner, so I booked the Cargo loads and planned all in advance.

Now I'm back in the office I have a little more info to hand.

UA925-10th May 2017, 787-9, N35953, 36 Business PAX, 58 Coach PAX - 94 PAX total onboard.
10 x PMC of freight onboard at 78,589LBs, 2 x AKE of Mail in the Bulk Pit at 3049LBs, 2 x AKE Bags boarded and 8 x Bags in the Bulk Pit.
Flight pushed back 5 min late at 16:45, airborne at 17:30 which is 50 min late only, so no extended delay on this flight.

UA028-1st July 2013 , 777-200, N78003, 49 PAX in Business, 178 in Coach, 227 PAX onboard.
Aircraft was a 77Y at the time, now its converted to Polaris config it is redesignated as 77E, a 77E is an old CO 77Y that now has Polaris.
To be honest I question the source of this saying its the 777 Cargo record at UA, as I have no record of it and the Cargo records do not match up, this is a mistake from WHQ I think to call that record at 83,362Lbs, ferry flights do not count as records anyway, only flights with PAX on, but UA028 on that day was not a ferry for sure.

I do know the 777-200 Cargo record at United is still held by LHR anyway at 79,740Lbs, UA925-27th Nov 2013, N786UA was a 77J at the time, now a 77N with Polaris.
7 x First Class PAX, 23 x Business, 63 Coach - total 93 PAX onboard
73,571Lbs of Cargo , 6169LBs of Mail, 83 Bags onboard.

Fun fact, UA LHR holds the weight records for the 747-400 / 767-300 / 767-400 / 777-200(non HD) / 777-300 / 787-8 / 787-9.
We are only missing the 777-200HD and the 787-10, and whilst we wont be getting them in LHR anytime soon as they don't fly here, we intend on bringing those 2 Cargo records home to Europe in 2020



Reply from jetblastdubai
I'm sure most people on here missed the underlying meaning in your post but you got a huge virtual "high five" from me when I read it. This is the kind of competition I love seeing in any company! Setting a goal and working towards earning it is a great morale booster for any group within an organization. The fact that you are actively setting a goal of bring home two more records says a lot about your desire to make your station more profitable as well as gain some more notoriety.

I worked ATC in probably one of the most difficult towers on the planet and almost everyone there busted their back side to push out more and more planes regardless of the pay we took home...it was a personal pride thing and we had more fun than a human being should have while doing it. Our customers knew it too.



I wish you the best of luck trying to break the 77A record...

77H
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:08 am

jayunited wrote:
x1234 wrote:
So is the 2nd daily EWR-PVG coming or it just the upgauged 77W!?


Both UA and DL have gone silent on their proposed EWR-PVG (second daily) and MSP-PVG routes. Both airlines at the beginning of 2019 said schedule service would begin in Spring 2020. However with Chinese carriers flooding the U.S. market with cheap fares neither of these carriers seem enthusiastic when it comes to adding more flights to China. Right now there are 3 tier 1 slots available to U.S. carriers its amazing how valuable these slots were in 2019 but in 2020 no one is fighting for additional slots to China.


There doesn’t seem to be enough -8s in the sked.....are they going to ramp up Polaris and painting? Supplement domestic for the MAX being out? Or new routes?

Tha only addition I saw was ORD-PEK. A lot of other traditionally -8 routes are also getting upgauged.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 12:47 am

audidudi wrote:
LGeneReese wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
Looks like 752 PS N546UA is in TUP. Storage? Retirement?
Confirmation?

It’s definitely there... and to my limited knowledge they only ever come out in bits and pieces.

Confirmation here (courtesy of skyliner-aviation.de):

Boeing 757-222 25367 413 N546UA United Airlines ferried 14 Jan 2020 SFO-TUP, for part-out &scrap



I also have confirmation from Employees that it’s there, and for part out and scrap. I heard there’s 2 757s and *maybe* one Ua 747 left there and I believe the QF 744 hasn’t been scrapped yet. I have photos of them there, and will go back in March to grab some photos of them!
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 4:39 am

intotheair wrote:
Some interesting adjustments for the summer. DEN-LHR/FRA/NRT all go from 788 to 789 in June.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-18jan20/


Glad to see ATH getting a big bump up in capacity, especially against AA's addition of ORD to the market...flight always seems to be full in summer when it runs.

I wonder when we'll see another top up order of Dreamliners...looks like only about 15 left to be delivered. Even if the 45 A350s ever get delivered, there's still a ton of planes that need replacements and UA is also expanding. The 787 has done wonders for new routes out of SFO and DEN...is there potential to add new thin routes out of other hubs like IAH and ORD (IAD and EWR have the 757 to cover those).
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:53 pm

ericm2031 wrote:
intotheair wrote:
Some interesting adjustments for the summer. DEN-LHR/FRA/NRT all go from 788 to 789 in June.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-18jan20/


Glad to see ATH getting a big bump up in capacity, especially against AA's addition of ORD to the market...flight always seems to be full in summer when it runs.

I wonder when we'll see another top up order of Dreamliners...looks like only about 15 left to be delivered. Even if the 45 A350s ever get delivered, there's still a ton of planes that need replacements and UA is also expanding. The 787 has done wonders for new routes out of SFO and DEN...is there potential to add new thin routes out of other hubs like IAH and ORD (IAD and EWR have the 757 to cover those).


Upguaging EWR-ATH to a 78X is huge, but I also think UA needs to add seasonal IAD-ATH and seasonal ORD-BCN (both our EWR/IAD-BCN flights are always packed).

As far as a top up Dreamliner order last year Kirby did state many times UA could replace some 752s and 763s with a combination of A321s and 788s but UA wanted the NMA. UA has already order the A321XLR so we have the first piece of the puzzle we just need the second piece. Boeing was supposed to make a final decision on the NMA by the end of 2019 but that timeline was before the MAX grounding. Now in addition to the problems Boeing is facing with the MAX there could be problems with the 77X that further delay its estimated EIS. If there are real problems with the 77X program the NMA decision could be delayed even further opening the door for a 788 top up order or perhaps a A330-800 order (wouldn't that be a shocker).

I think by mid to late summer of this year we will have our answer. Will it be the NMA (probably not), additional 788s (again my opinion Boeings order to loose), or will Airbus win again and finally convince UA to take a chance on the A330-800.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:52 pm

E175:
N621UX - Entered service on 19-Jan/4068

CR5:
N165GJ - Left service, en-route to AMA for paint prior to CR5 conversion. Will be re-registered as N544GJ
 
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Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:54 pm

E175:
N621UX - Entered service on 19-Jan/4068

CR5:
N165GJ - Left service, en-route to AMA for paint prior to CR5 conversion. Will be re-registered as N544GJ
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:00 pm

Latest A319 movement (courtesy of skyliner-aviation.de):

Airbus A319-132 2574 N883UA United Airlines regd 17 Jan 2020 prior delivery, ex SHE, ex-B-6206
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:25 pm

UAX Update:

CR5:
N613QX entered MLB for interior mod
N174GJ entered MLB for interior mod

CR7:
N165GJ exited CR7 Service. Ferried AMA for new livery, will be future N544GJ

E75SC:
N621UX enters revenue service with ExpressJet 19Jan
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:45 pm

752:
N14120 sked to exit MIA 2015/20Jan, Flight amenities show new 16/160 config, seat map not updated

77W:
N2250U sked first revenue flight 535/21Jan SFO-EWR
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:41 am

That's a good looking plane!

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:22 am

Yesterday I was on a 752, MIA/EWR. UA1027 (if memory serves) - I was sitting in 1F and while I was thrilled to sleep the way, (making it essentially a 20 minute flight!) wow was she scruffy!
A foam rubber strip was sticking out from between the TV and side wall, there were many of those little “bump-protectors” at the bottom of the diamond seat outer shell missing, and many scuffs etc. I don’t think she was a Tatl 752 (maybe) with 16 F seats? Wi-Fi not working (for my iPhone anyway) and I have a 1 year subscription. (Perhaps this 752 had an old system? Frankly I can’t keep up with the Wi-Fi changes)

Regardless, I was very forgiving as I know she is due for an F cabin refit, and given the MAX situation, I guess UA would have trouble taking her out of service for the “Spruce up”.

I was just reading TPG about Delta’s new A220. I have only flown her once (LX?) - anyway the Delta A220 looked beautiful, but so would a new United A220 with the new domestic interiors. But why is it Kirby said the A220 would not work at United?

ONE LAST QUESTION: United’s new Domestic First seat with the “articulated” recline (butt cushion moves forward to add to the “feel” of reclining: DOES any other US airline use that recline feature?
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:01 am

In the upcoming January 22 4th quarter and full 2019 year financial conference call. Will UA announce any New Routes with the 787's?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:26 pm

The fleet changes, fleet status, and repaint status posts at the start of this thread have been updated.

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:33 pm

VC10er wrote:
True/Untrue?: The FA’s said “Pillow Man” had taken advantage of a program United had a number of years earlier where for the sum of $1 Million Dollars you could buy “unlimited lifetime First Class travel, YES, FOR LIFE! And that “Pillow Man” was one of the few that paid that $1 Million. Can anyone verify if United ever had such a program? The flight attendants said that that program didn’t last long because too many people bought it, and that over the course of a persons life, had they purchased FIRST every time these folks flew (which was VERY OFTEN) in the long run $1 Million wasn’t enough. Plus after the initial X amount of people who bought F travel for life, it was only good for UA’s books year that fiscal year, but after that each year they were flying many people, MANY-MANY times in First Class essentially for free.

When UA cancelled 987/988 from JFK/GRU/GIG - I felt really bad for “Pillow Man” - and 20 years later, I still hope to see him again!


Do not believe United Airlines ever had this program. They did issue a forever ticket to some but the bankruptcy and merger killed those.

American Airlines had the program, killed it too...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesasqui ... 5860be17ef
You are here.
 
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:40 pm

# 0006 Polaris ETR 06 Feb HKG
You are here.
 
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:07 pm

319:
N883UA - Former China Southern B-6206 scheduled to fly SHE --> NRT --> ANC --> GYR on 21-Jan starting on 21-Jan. Flight numbers are sequenced 2703, 2704, 2705. Looks like it will go through induction stateside vs. XMN
 
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:18 pm

I just saw some pictures online of the ALL NEW United Club being built on top of C1 concourse under construction. Does anybody have details about it? The few folks I’m friendly with at the old UC said “plan is for it to be as large as possible with a lot of glass walls and an outdoor space as also. Any new updated information?

Many pages back someone mentioned pop-lavatories in the center of the concourses at EWR - with no ceilings! The men’s and women’s restrooms were under renovation.

Has anyone been in the NEWLY renovated restrooms? I have in C2 of TC. They are REALLY NICE! Beautiful new restrooms 100% refurbished. When completed they go a long way to the grand TC overhaul. Last remaining traces of old COs TC renovations from the 90’s are now totally modernized! They look fresh, modern and attractive!
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Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:33 pm

789
N22975 B2 BOE350 CHSCHS 20Jan
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:02 pm

319:
N883UA, ex CZ B-6206 showing as 2705/21Jan ANC-GYR, on way to US. Looks like this unit will get stored/induction int the US, unlike last several CZ units. Any possibility this 2005 unit will be used for parts?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:29 pm

VC10er wrote:
I just saw some pictures online of the ALL NEW United Club being built on top of C1 concourse under construction. Does anybody have details about it? The few folks I’m friendly with at the old UC said “plan is for it to be as large as possible with a lot of glass walls and an outdoor space as also. Any new updated information?

Many pages back someone mentioned pop-lavatories in the center of the concourses at EWR - with no ceilings! The men’s and women’s restrooms were under renovation.

Has anyone been in the NEWLY renovated restrooms? I have in C2 of TC. They are REALLY NICE! Beautiful new restrooms 100% refurbished. When completed they go a long way to the grand TC overhaul. Last remaining traces of old COs TC renovations from the 90’s are now totally modernized! They look fresh, modern and attractive!


Care to provide a link?


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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:42 pm

Any chance someone can give updated ETR’s out of HKG for 3058, 6669 and 6676? Thank you kindly!
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:16 pm

kaitakfan wrote:
Any chance someone can give updated ETR’s out of HKG for 3058, 6669 and 6676? Thank you kindly!



Nose numbers 6669 and 6676 are showing an estimated return to service on February 6th, and 13th respectively.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:26 pm

CriticalPoint wrote:
There doesn’t seem to be enough -8s in the sked.....are they going to ramp up Polaris and painting? Supplement domestic for the MAX being out? Or new routes?

The only addition I saw was ORD-PEK. A lot of other traditionally -8 routes are also getting upgauged.


The 787-8 routes currently loaded are:
SFO-DUB
SFO-AMS
SFO-KIX
SFO-CTU (3x weekly)
ORD-PEK
IAD-GRU
IAD-PEK

There's also an SFO-ORD redeye and an ORD-SFO rotation. I believe that flying requires 10 out of 12 frames to be in operation at any given time. I wouldn't be surprised if that's all that will be flown this summer. Keeping 1-2 frames out of the schedule for either Polaris conversions or as spares doesn't seem unreasonable.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:30 pm

intotheair wrote:
Some interesting adjustments for the summer. DEN-LHR/FRA/NRT all go from 788 to 789 in June.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-18jan20/


In addition to the routes mentioned in this article, I found some other interesting widebody developments on the domestic front. Most notably, there are 3x daily 772s loaded in each direction on SFO-EWR that are showing the Polaris type seat in first class. However, the configuration appears to be slightly different from what's loaded for other 772 Polaris routes like IAD-LHR, EWR-DEL, SFO-PEK, etc. Could these be the new domestic-configured PW 772 subfleet?

The HD 772s also appear to be seeing some more IAD flying than the last few summers. I'm seeing 2x daily each on IAD-SFO and IAD-LAX, along with a IAD-DEN. However, I also think the HD 772 fleet appears slightly over-scheduled for S20 as of now, and I'm sure more tweaks are coming. Same for the 787-10 fleet on EWR-SFO/LAX.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:57 pm

VC10er wrote:
I just saw some pictures online of the ALL NEW United Club being built on top of C1 concourse under construction. Does anybody have details about it? The few folks I’m friendly with at the old UC said “plan is for it to be as large as possible with a lot of glass walls and an outdoor space as also. Any new updated information?


Any more feedback on this? I haven't seen any such renderings.

FSDan wrote:
intotheair wrote:
Some interesting adjustments for the summer. DEN-LHR/FRA/NRT all go from 788 to 789 in June.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-18jan20/


In addition to the routes mentioned in this article, I found some other interesting widebody developments on the domestic front. Most notably, there are 3x daily 772s loaded in each direction on SFO-EWR that are showing the Polaris type seat in first class. However, the configuration appears to be slightly different from what's loaded for other 772 Polaris routes like IAD-LHR, EWR-DEL, SFO-PEK, etc. Could these be the new domestic-configured PW 772 subfleet?


They are coded as 772, but are showing 77W seatmaps (60J/290Y, not selling PE at this point). With more 77W coming, and markets like HKG losing 77W service, UA will have a few extra frames that could be put to good use on EWR-SFO over the summer. EWR-LAX is still showing the 77G 1x plus 2x 787-10.

I believe the 4 77E going to domestic configuration will have the IPTE seats.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:24 pm

Hi there, Nick. We're starting construction on a new club at EWR next month and it'll take about two years to complete. It will be located in Concourse C3. ^AN

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:33 pm

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752:
N14120 sked to exit MIA 2015/20Jan, Flight amenities show new 16/160 config, seat map not updated

77W:
N2250U sked first revenue flight 535/21Jan SFO-EWR


Seems N2250U moved up a day. Now enroute UA535 SFOEWR 20Jan.... and then onward as UA149 EWRGRU tonight.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 8:42 pm

FSDan wrote:
intotheair wrote:
Some interesting adjustments for the summer. DEN-LHR/FRA/NRT all go from 788 to 789 in June.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-18jan20/


In addition to the routes mentioned in this article, I found some other interesting widebody developments on the domestic front. Most notably, there are 3x daily 772s loaded in each direction on SFO-EWR that are showing the Polaris type seat in first class. However, the configuration appears to be slightly different from what's loaded for other 772 Polaris routes like IAD-LHR, EWR-DEL, SFO-PEK, etc. Could these be the new domestic-configured PW 772 subfleet?

The HD 772s also appear to be seeing some more IAD flying than the last few summers. I'm seeing 2x daily each on IAD-SFO and IAD-LAX, along with a IAD-DEN. However, I also think the HD 772 fleet appears slightly over-scheduled for S20 as of now, and I'm sure more tweaks are coming. Same for the 787-10 fleet on EWR-SFO/LAX.


Those seat maps you are seeing are for the 300ERs.....hmmmmm interesting. I don't think that is the new HD configuration....I think either someone loaded the wrong seat map or UA is using the 300ER 3 times a day this summer.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:57 pm

jayunited wrote:
kaitakfan wrote:
Any chance someone can give updated ETR’s out of HKG for 3058, 6669 and 6676? Thank you kindly!



Nose numbers 6669 and 6676 are showing an estimated return to service on February 6th, and 13th respectively.


Thanks Jay! I appreciate the update. If you have time can you see how 3058 is coming along? I’d imagine she has to be about a week or so from coming back after entering HKG last week of December. Thanks again!
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:51 pm

Looks like some additional SFO-MIA flights have been added around the Super Bowl, as well as MCI-MIA.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Jan 20, 2020 11:59 pm

Pics of the first 787-9 in the new livery at CHS today from @charleston.spotter:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jvrsOhgy4/
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:21 am

Looks like N879UA and N654UA both leaving LCQ tomorrow. N649UA going into LCQ.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:32 am

I was poking around the fleet site's Polaris update (thank you for maintaining it – it's invaluable) and read that 31 of 38 763s are to get Optima Polaris seats. However, the United Polaris retrofit tracker implies all 38 763s are to be refit. Is this a new development?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:48 am

Runway28L wrote:
Pics of the first 787-9 in the new livery at CHS today from @charleston.spotter:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7jvrsOhgy4/

This one shows a C1 today (20). Hopefully it passed inspection.
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N12012 shows filed for a B1 today, but appears it didn’t happen.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:23 am

The Polaris tracker is a few aircraft behind, new units: 1 77W, 2 78X, Polaris completed 1 788, 2 763.
However I believe a few 763s will not receive Polaris. Hopefully the Polaris tracker is correct and all 38 will have Polaris.

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N879UA sked to exit LCQ 2732/21Jan with EvoBLu paint. Should be flying revenue soon, Former CZ B2295

763:
N649UA sked to enter LCQ 2762/21Jan for EvoBlu livery
N652UA sked to exit LCQ 2763/21Jan in EvoBlu livery
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:04 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
The Polaris tracker is a few aircraft behind, new units: 1 77W, 2 78X, Polaris completed 1 788, 2 763.
However I believe a few 763s will not receive Polaris. Hopefully the Polaris tracker is correct and all 38 will have Polaris.


I just looked at the updated 763 Polaris installation schedule and Nose numbers 6452, 6453, 6457, and 6458 will all be converted into High-J with Polaris and PE, while nose numbers 6461, 6462, 6463 will all be converted into the standard Polaris (30J) configuration. All of these frames are 1992/93 builds but if the recently released 763 Polaris installation schedule is to be believed (it was just released 4 days ago) all 763s will have the actual Polaris seat. Judging from internal documents it would seem as if the latest update to United's Polaris tracker website is correct.

Looking at the recently update 763 Polaris schedule and comparing it to the old schedules from a few months ago what I'm noticing is the 763s were supposed to wrap up installation in August of 2020 and the 764s were supposed to begin in August. However the addition of these 7 1992/93 frames, extends the 763 Polaris installation schedule all the way through December 2020. No update yet on how this will impact the 764 schedule if it impacts it at all.

It would seem as though UA intends to fly the wings off some of our oldest 763s. I can only wonder what this development means for the NMA and Boeing could be telling UA behind the scenes. Does UA really believe they can hold out for Boeing's NMA keeping in mind it is the aircraft UA really wants. Or is UA simply delaying the inevitable which would be a order for more 788s or possibly the A330-800?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:03 pm

jayunited wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
The Polaris tracker is a few aircraft behind, new units: 1 77W, 2 78X, Polaris completed 1 788, 2 763.
However I believe a few 763s will not receive Polaris. Hopefully the Polaris tracker is correct and all 38 will have Polaris.


I just looked at the updated 763 Polaris installation schedule and Nose numbers 6452, 6453, 6457, and 6458 will all be converted into High-J with Polaris and PE, while nose numbers 6461, 6462, 6463 will all be converted into the standard Polaris (30J) configuration. All of these frames are 1992/93 builds but if the recently released 763 Polaris installation schedule is to be believed (it was just released 4 days ago) all 763s will have the actual Polaris seat. Judging from internal documents it would seem as if the latest update to United's Polaris tracker website is correct.

Looking at the recently update 763 Polaris schedule and comparing it to the old schedules from a few months ago what I'm noticing is the 763s were supposed to wrap up installation in August of 2020 and the 764s were supposed to begin in August. However the addition of these 7 1992/93 frames, extends the 763 Polaris installation schedule all the way through December 2020. No update yet on how this will impact the 764 schedule if it impacts it at all.

It would seem as though UA intends to fly the wings off some of our oldest 763s. I can only wonder what this development means for the NMA and Boeing could be telling UA behind the scenes. Does UA really believe they can hold out for Boeing's NMA keeping in mind it is the aircraft UA really wants. Or is UA simply delaying the inevitable which would be a order for more 788s or possibly the A330-800?


That is great news about the 767s! Now if we can get 430 and 431 to come back we’ll be in even better shape! Are you able to see what the status of those 2 aircraft are?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Jan 21, 2020 3:29 pm

Is N41140 the first CO 752 to be withdrawn? Planespotters.net shows it as having been wfu since Jan 6.

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