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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:20 pm

drerx7 wrote:
I see the IAH-CUN-IAH in the schedule with the 777 GE birds x2 daily and the IAH-PHX run with it 1x daily loaded. Any others out there?


In addition to those two you mentioned, they also have Polaris 772s flying the following:
EWR/IAD/ORD-LAS
EWR-TPA
SFO-CUN

There’s a few hub-hub upgauges as well.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:25 pm

1989worstyear wrote:
UA444 wrote:
codc10 wrote:

There simply no comparison to bankruptcy-era UA. None. The current company is spending orders of magnitude more in terms of aircraft retrofits and paint jobs... not to mention preventive maintenance and addressing deferred items.

The IPTE program is a rollout UA is specifically trying not to repeat, starting with the fact that 747/767 mods were essentially a half-job... Economy cabins got new seat covers... that’s it. It was a bare-minimum program that was eventually squeezed dry to pinch pennies.

I wish they had gotten a full refit in Y and it was disappointing they didn’t, but part of the reason why the 763 and 744 didn’t get an overhaul to redo the Y section was because they didn’t intend on flying them this long. And yes, they had to be picky at the time on where they spent some capital. Thats why the 777’s got nose to tail refits, since they were part of the long term plan and quite young at the time. The 25 788’s they ordered in 2009 were to replace the 21 international 763’s and the 25 A350s was to replace the 744. They weren’t interested in the 773 and wanted the next gen engine tech beyond that. Nobody could’ve seen them operating the older 767s today. I’m glad they’re still going but that wasn’t the intent back in 2009 when they ordered new aircraft.


Covid-19 will clean out the 763's shortly.

How when no UA 763s go tpac...
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:27 pm

CALTECH wrote:
# 0975, not rumors, Boeing will do repair with AOG Team.....

Video, looks like that taxiway is only for smaller aircraft. Heard it was during taxi training. Pictures are of the ouch level.....


Do you know if it was on a non-movement area or was ATC involved?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:15 am

tpaewr wrote:
VC10er wrote:
dmstorm22 wrote:

It annoys me that the 789 doesn't even have the improved wall/entry branding. I get it takes time and there's a schedule around full Polaris mods, but the lack of Polaris branding aside from kits and menus is startling when you get on that after taking a High-J B763 or 77W.


Yes, but it is better to ”under promise and over deliver, than make a promise and under deliver” - I think if I boarded a 789 and it had the new entry signage, only to see the older Diamond seat, I would go from instant EXCITEMENT to instant disappointment when I turned the corner.

Yes, there are ”bits of Polaris” like bedding and pillows. But otherwise it's the same UA experience from 2017.

But once an ac gets the FULL REFURBISHMENT, then have Polaris/PE passengers FULL EXPERIENCE!

I am just so curious about those original FANCY branded bulkheads because when I first saw it, I was thrilled to see United go SO FAR to create and invest in the Polaris atmosphere that they spent BIG on branding the bulkhead.
I was VERY IMPRESSED by PriestmanGoode who did an awesome design job with a limited and dated set of visual brand assets.
I can't even imagine how much each one cost to manufacture, and would LOVE to know. And I really wondered how much one weighed!
I would also love to know the cost for a Polaris seat; per unit! And how much each one weighed!

When I was at Landor, and sat next to the Delta team, my goodness! Delta knew the weight for every every blanket, every seat detail!




In my experience with UA the MO has always been the reverse. Over promise under deliver. From the lack of the branding in later 77W you noted. The general decay UA let’s interiors slip into. To the big cuts Polaris has since since its launch.

But this is nothing new, how many planes where still flying in peeling Battleship grey with pre-IPTE seats at merger with CO.


One thing UA does well is branding and marketing. But delivering on that promise has never been a strong suite.


Perhaps you are referring to an older UA or a merger ness of UA & CO “merger of equals”?

Ok, from the launch of Polaris a few great little touches didn’t work out in practice; the champagne flutes with cocktail tray, the “Book-like” amenity kits must have been pricy but didn’t function as well, the wine flight and the beautiful bulkhead design (I don’t know why they stopped installing them?? BUT, as the saying goes “A watched pot never boils” - overhauling from where UA was to where they will be in 12 months does indeed live up to the promise of “the new spirit of UNITED” - I just flew a 787-10 in Polaris last Thursday. Aside from the bulkhead “I” loved, some might prefer the simple silver silk? It looks clean, crisp and new. The cabin itself with the Polaris seat design is still unmistakable for ANY other airline. The trip was a perfect 10 for a Business Class flight. My forward seat is perfectly designed, beautiful finishes with customized/bespoke touches like the clear blue wrap around mini wall with the “United Dashes” detailing, which is used on the blue band on the seat walls, lavatory backsplashes, and even at the gate counters, the nice brushed aluminum handles (Priestman/Goode got it all designed perfectly. Their many years of experience have benefited United. The Polaris Lounges are better than expectations, where UA controls the gates, the seating is beautiful, desks, power are beautiful, the white and chrome computers on a beautiful white and chrome gate desk, looks fabulous. The service was great, the duvet and pillows (including the gel pillows, turn down service if desired. Oscar said “A GOOD SLEEP WAS PARAMOUNT” for business sky warriors is getting done quickly at enormous cost. The high-J 763 is just astonishing for a 763. She looks and smells brand new.

I can only speak to NYC marketing; YEAH! United looks like it owns Manhattan! I don’t know UA’s share of the Manhattan market but someone from Mars would think United is “THE TOPS” by sheer presence. TC was a lemon and UA made great lemonade from it, apart from the United Club calamity.

My single concern is will Kirby keep up both the operations and the emotions flying high?

The 737MAX situation sucks, but that is not on United’s doorstep!
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:26 am

drerx7 wrote:
How when no UA 763s go tpac...

I assume they COVID-19 is causing a global air travel contraction of unknown length; with less air travel demand, you park the oldest paid off planes to shrink accordingly. Those oldest, paid off planes are the 763s. Other aircraft that are newer and/or are financed and/or are leased would backfill them.

That said, I don't think the 763s get parked. Use 'em to backfill the MAXes or grow domestically – whatever the strategic imperative of the day is.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:21 am

Any idea when 3062 is due out of HKG? It looked like ERS was 3/25 a few weeks back. Wondering if they have revised the return time with all the issues going on over there in HKG. Thanks!
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 4:39 am

jetblastdubai wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
# 0975, not rumors, Boeing will do repair with AOG Team.....

Video, looks like that taxiway is only for smaller aircraft. Heard it was during taxi training. Pictures are of the ouch level.....


Do you know if it was on a non-movement area or was ATC involved?


Non-Movement area. ATC mot involved.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:39 pm

N78008 772 GE Polaris Mod looks to exit HKG to GUM tomorrow.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:13 pm

fun2fly wrote:
N78008 772 GE Polaris Mod looks to exit HKG to GUM tomorrow.



N78009 was scheduled to enter HKG for Polaris Mods. I haven't had a chance to look yet but I believe on Saturday it was schedule to ferry position SFO-GUM and I believe on the 25th N78009 will ferry position GUM-HKG. At least this was the schedule as listed this past Friday.

If N78009 did in fact ferry over to Guam it would mean there would only be 4 GE 77Es and 1 PW 77E in service needing Polaris/PE. Of course we have to adjust for the 3 remaining PW 77Es that will be converted to HD domestic layout.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:48 pm

319:
N823UA entered SFO 2440/21Feb, sked exit412/24Feb, potential 12F config, but seat map still shows 8F

763:
N646UA entered MCO maint 2763/23Feb

772:
N774UA sked to enter HKG 2700/25Feb, maint. crew probably to turn to N78008
N77008 confirmed to sked to exit HKG 2699/25Feb with Polaris/PP
N78009 sitting in GUM, probably will ferry when N74007 exits - should be about 3 days behind N77008

N789/X:
N29977 has had 2 Boeing test flights
N29978 is now in Pre Flight
N13013 is in Final Assembly
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 12:34 am

UAX Update:

CR5:
N542GJ exited AMA in EvoBlu livery, at STL awaiting service entry

E175SC:
All 25 ExpressJet 175SCs will transfer to Skywest over the next 15 months

E145XR:
TransStates Airlines will dissolve by the end of 2020. All 36 XRs will be transferred to ExpressJet
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 5:12 am

UAinAUS wrote:
UAX Update:

CR5:
N542GJ exited AMA in EvoBlu livery, at STL awaiting service entry

E175SC:
All 25 ExpressJet 175SCs will transfer to Skywest over the next 15 months

E145XR:
TransStates Airlines will dissolve by the end of 2020. All 36 XRs will be transferred to ExpressJet

I think that’s where most, if not all, of the 145XRs came from... All those EV pilots who just moved to the 175 now have to go back.... :hissyfit: :hissyfit: :banghead:
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:48 am

319:
N823UA confirmed with 12F configuration
N4866U ferried GYR-LCQ 2706/24Feb for Induction, Former Shaheen unit

752:
N17139 sked to exit SAT 2701/25Feb in 16/160 config.

772:
N78009 entered XMN 2698/25Feb for Polaris/PP

788:
N26906 sked to exit XMN 2699/26Feb with Polaris/PP
N29907 sked to enter XMN 2698/26Feb for Polaris/PP
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:29 pm

LGeneReese wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
# 0975, not rumors, Boeing will do repair with AOG Team.....

Video, looks like that taxiway is only for smaller aircraft. Heard it was during taxi training. Pictures are of the ouch level.....

I suspect this repair is not included in the warranty. Will be interesting to see how long it takes.


Boeing is supposed to be on the aircraft Wednesday when the contract will be finalized, is the story coming out of ORD.

FlyHossD wrote:
UA444 wrote:
They upped the paint program significantly in the year and a half prior to the merger until Jeffy decided he wanted his little masterpiece.


If it was all about what "Jeffy" wanted, then why wasn't the Continental name retained, too???

Even as a (now retired)CO employee, I was a fan of the United Rising / tri-blue scheme and would have been OK with that one surviving. But it didn't because it was simply cheaper to keep the legacy-CO scheme. Smisek was ALL about the Benjamins, eh? More than once, I heard it said that Smisek would sell his mother for a fraction of a penny in CASM.


This is just a Continental hater. These rants are just that, rants. Seems to think he is in the know, but knows nothing and can not accept why things are/were done the way they have been at United. Seems to think he knows better than anyone at United. Reference the almost 5 year old ex-CEO name brought up as a vapid point, which is so factually incorrect..

jetblastdubai wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
# 0975, not rumors, Boeing will do repair with AOG Team.....

Video, looks like that taxiway is only for smaller aircraft. Heard it was during taxi training. Pictures are of the ouch level.....


Do you know if it was on a non-movement area or was ATC involved?


Heard ATC gave them clearance. Video shows ran the wing over a short pole then hit a taller light pole. Taller pole hit made the nose swing left about 3-4 or more feet. Looks like a taxiway, BB2? by the De-icing pad.

TrafficCop wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:
CALTECH wrote:
# 0975, not rumors, Boeing will do repair with AOG Team.....

Video, looks like that taxiway is only for smaller aircraft. Heard it was during taxi training. Pictures are of the ouch level.....


Do you know if it was on a non-movement area or was ATC involved?


Non-Movement area. ATC mot involved.


Hmmmm, heard different version. ATC supposedly cleared them onto that taxiway, BB2.

http://docplayer.net/48573947-Chicago-o ... dures.html


" 4-5. Airport Movement Area The Airport Movement Area of O’Hare Airport is all runways, taxiways, and other areas which are utilized for taxiing/hover-taxiing, air taxiing, takeoff, and landing of aircraft, exclusive of loading ramps and parking areas. "

kaitakfan wrote:
Any idea when 3062 is due out of HKG? It looked like ERS was 3/25 a few weeks back. Wondering if they have revised the return time with all the issues going on over there in HKG. Thanks!


ETR is 3/5, they are on day 16 of 25 day hold. No revision, on track for now.......


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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:26 pm

Does anyone know why the 777 and 787s are now being routed through GUM for modification ferry flights? Is this due to Coronavirus risk and a desire to quarantine aircraft and crews?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:35 pm

GmoneyCO wrote:
Does anyone know why the 777 and 787s are now being routed through GUM for modification ferry flights? Is this due to Coronavirus risk and a desire to quarantine aircraft and crews?


Yes, it is due to Coronavirus. I think it was stated earlier in this thread (or another), it is for routing of people and planes.
It facilitates that no crew layovers in HKG. They stay in Guam. I think the routing is SFO-GUM-HKG-GUM-SFO.
 
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UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:32 pm

Hello a.nutters,

I see UAL is sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today. Does anyone know why?

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2747
 
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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:47 pm

There have been a few 777s doing GUM-HKG, this is probably doing the same for maintenance.
 
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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Tue Feb 25, 2020 8:25 pm

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n2639u

The plane in question is schedule to fly to XMN. So maintenance is the answer. XMN is the main base for TAECO/HAECO.

Not surprising about the timing given the slack in plane due to the mainland China/HK cuts.
 
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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:04 pm

Here is the FLIFO from GDS...gotta be MX as stated above since this shows it's a ferry...

** UA - UNITED AIRLINES **
2747/25FEB
P SFO/OUT 1115A L00.25 EST OFF 1145AFLIGHT PREPARATION
P SFO/OFF 1142A
P GUM/ETA 514P L00.14 FLIGHT PREPARATION
D FCF/FERRY FLIGHT NO REVENUE CUSTOMERS

SKED SFO ORIG 1050A GTD F22 SHIP 139
GUM 500P TERM 1 GTA 5
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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:11 pm

Guess they wanted to pick up a set of crew, fly the plane to XMN and back on another with the same set?

Michael
 
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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:23 pm

eamondzhang wrote:
Guess they wanted to pick up a set of crew, fly the plane to XMN and back on another with the same set?

Michael

90% of the time an Engineering crew flies the airplanes into and out of overhauls and heavy checks. so they may well be time limited. or? the line crews may be flying the airplane to GUM and an engineering crew flying it to XMN.
 
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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Tue Feb 25, 2020 11:53 pm

As mentioned before I think this is all about not having to layover crews in China at the moment

Staging out of Gum allows for a return flight on the same day
The best contribution to safety is a competent Pilot.


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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:05 am

Max Q wrote:
As mentioned before I think this is all about not having to layover crews in China at the moment

Staging out of Gum allows for a return flight on the same day


This is has been discussed on the UA fleet thread.
This point is what has been stated by UA insiders, all crew rotations go through GUM. It makes for more complicated routings, but for the health and safety of the UA employees this is a good option to still allow maintenance/conversions to happen.
 
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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:58 am

strfyr51 wrote:
eamondzhang wrote:
Guess they wanted to pick up a set of crew, fly the plane to XMN and back on another with the same set?

Michael

90% of the time an Engineering crew flies the airplanes into and out of overhauls and heavy checks. so they may well be time limited. or? the line crews may be flying the airplane to GUM and an engineering crew flying it to XMN.


You have it backwards. 90% of the time line pilots fly the ferry trips in and out of heavy MX in places like HKG, XMN. Under certain circumstances will tech ops pilots do it. I’ve seen them do the MX verification flights and then continue on to the ferry trip.
 
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Re: UAL sending 77W from SFO -> GUM today

Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:53 am

Great replies! Thanks all.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:19 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
319:
N823UA entered SFO 2440/21Feb, sked exit412/24Feb, potential 12F config, but seat map still shows 8F

763:
N646UA entered MCO maint 2763/23Feb

772:
N774UA sked to enter HKG 2700/25Feb, maint. crew probably to turn to N78008
N77008 confirmed to sked to exit HKG 2699/25Feb with Polaris/PP
N78009 sitting in GUM, probably will ferry when N74007 exits - should be about 3 days behind N77008

N789/X:
N29977 has had 2 Boeing test flights
N29978 is now in Pre Flight
N13013 is in Final Assembly

We forgot one
77W
N2352U now in pre flight PAE (last 77W.... Supposedly)
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:09 pm

738:
N27213 sked to exit AMA 2694/26Feb in EvoBlu livery

772:
N77006 sked to exit VCV 2733/25Feb, should be EvoBlu, aircraft carried Robert F. Six name.
N79011 entered AMA paint 2764/25Feb

788:
Entry and exit of N26906 and N29907 at XMN (Polaris/PP) delayed 1 day with same flight numbers.

789:
N29977 Sked delivery flight 2707/27Feb CHS-ORD
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Feb 26, 2020 1:54 pm

319:
N825UA entered SFO 2278/24Feb, assume 12F config mod

763:
N646UA sked to exit MCO maint 2737/26Feb

77W:
N2138U sked to exit XMN maint 2693/27Feb
N2639U sked to enter XMN maint 2692/27Feb
N2352U according to FR24 may have had a taxi test 2/22/20

78X:
N12012 resked 1st revenue flight 407/26Feb ORD-DEN
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:06 am

UAX Update:

CR5:
N511GJ exited AMA in EvoBlu livery, at STL awaiting service entry
N642CA (2003 build) entered AMA for new livery, will become N523GJ

Also,
A319 N875UA is on its way to ORD for induction
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:57 pm

GUM becoming staging area for China mod/maint units

772:
N221UA sked to enter GUM 2751/28Feb, probably to replace N222UA domestic mod when ready
N798UA entered GUM 2/21/20, might be positioning for XMN maint (Polaris unit), best guess would be maint after 77W N2737U exits HKG
N77022 entered GUM 2/27/20, probably positioning for replace N74007 when ready

788:
N26909 sked to exit XMN 2691/28Feb with Polaris/PP

789:
N15969 entered GUM 2/25, probably to replace 788 N26909 in mod - thought 788s would go through mod first?

Can anyone confirm the following?:
N26960 in EvoBlu or was VCV visit for touch up
N77006, exited VCV paint, should be in EvoBlu, is she still named Robert F. Six?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:06 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
GUM becoming staging area for China mod/maint units

772:
N221UA sked to enter GUM 2751/28Feb, probably to replace N222UA domestic mod when ready
N798UA entered GUM 2/21/20, might be positioning for XMN maint (Polaris unit), best guess would be maint after 77W N2737U exits HKG
N77022 entered GUM 2/27/20, probably positioning for replace N74007 when ready

788:
N26909 sked to exit XMN 2691/28Feb with Polaris/PP

789:
N15969 entered GUM 2/25, probably to replace 788 N26909 in mod - thought 788s would go through mod first?

Can anyone confirm the following?:
N26960 in EvoBlu or was VCV visit for touch up
N77006, exited VCV paint, should be in EvoBlu, is she still named Robert F. Six?


https://twitter.com/shorealonefilms/sta ... 30368?s=21

Hard to judge, but looks like the Robert F. Six titles are there in lieu of the ”Connecting People. Uniting the World” titles.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:17 pm

f18raider wrote:
calpsafltskeds wrote:
GUM becoming staging area for China mod/maint units

772:
N221UA sked to enter GUM 2751/28Feb, probably to replace N222UA domestic mod when ready
N798UA entered GUM 2/21/20, might be positioning for XMN maint (Polaris unit), best guess would be maint after 77W N2737U exits HKG
N77022 entered GUM 2/27/20, probably positioning for replace N74007 when ready

788:
N26909 sked to exit XMN 2691/28Feb with Polaris/PP

789:
N15969 entered GUM 2/25, probably to replace 788 N26909 in mod - thought 788s would go through mod first?

Can anyone confirm the following?:
N26960 in EvoBlu or was VCV visit for touch up
N77006, exited VCV paint, should be in EvoBlu, is she still named Robert F. Six?


https://twitter.com/shorealonefilms/sta ... 30368?s=21

Hard to judge, but looks like the Robert F. Six titles are there in lieu of the ”Connecting People. Uniting the World” titles.

I was able to get a closer look and yes, you are absolutely correct. Mr.Six is still there. :bigthumbsup:
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:52 pm

On the N26960 paint Q; It will be arriving SFO at 1100 today, 27th, and stay till late evening if any spotters are there.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:34 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
789:
N15969 entered GUM 2/25, probably to replace 788 N26909 in mod - thought 788s would go through mod first?


N15969 is the last 789 schedule to enter XMN until July 2020. From March to July UA will focus on the 788s.


Also N29977 was flown to ORD today as UA2707 for induction. Let us all hope ORD does not put another brand new 789 out of service.

Speaking of ORD and 787s its been a tough week for ORD maintenance they finally put N12012 into revenue service this morning after multiple attempts earlier this week resulted in last minute plane changes and a lot of disappointed customers.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 1:17 am

Is the coach bulkhead on the A319 a hard plastic to the floor bulkhead or is it a soft partial bulkhead that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front? Thanks in advance for any info.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:18 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
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N77006, exited VCV paint, should be in EvoBlu, is she still named Robert F. Six?


Yes, it still has the Robert F. Six name.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:23 am

United needs to name an airplane after Pat Patterson ASAP.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:24 am

codc10 wrote:
United needs to name an airplane after Pat Patterson ASAP.


Wasn’t he on a 744?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:43 am

scairbus wrote:
codc10 wrote:
United needs to name an airplane after Pat Patterson ASAP.


Wasn’t he on a 744?


A few airplanes over the years... none of which remain in the fleet.

Bob Six certainly deserves recognition as strongly relevant to the history of this airline... as does Gordon Bethune (Kellner, not so much). But if the company had an airplane named after Sam Ashmore until recently, there’s really no excuse for not having one named after the central figure of the formative years of United Air Lines.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 12:15 pm

codc10 wrote:
scairbus wrote:
codc10 wrote:
United needs to name an airplane after Pat Patterson ASAP.


Wasn’t he on a 744?


A few airplanes over the years... none of which remain in the fleet.

Bob Six certainly deserves recognition as strongly relevant to the history of this airline... as does Gordon Bethune (Kellner, not so much). But if the company had an airplane named after Sam Ashmore until recently, there’s really no excuse for not having one named after the central figure of the formative years of United Air Lines.


I expect we’ll see an Oscar Munoz in a few years. He really turned the airline around.

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 2:30 pm

319:
N847UA exited AMA 2759/27Feb in EvoBlu livery

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:37 pm

Additional Asia reductions and suspensions as a result of the continual spread COVID-19 and the drop in demand for travel to effected areas.

LAX and IAH-NRT suspended March 8-April 24
ORD-NRT suspended March 8-March 27, the route then switches to ORD-HND on March 28
SFO-HND (Tokyo Haneda) schedule is not affected (starting March 28 UA is still planning to launch daily service to ORD, LAX, IAD and EWR but COVID-19 could change these plans)
EWR-NRT reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
HNL-NRT downgauged to a 787-8 for April
SFO-KIX reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
SFO-SIN reduced to 1x daily for March 8-April 24
SFO-ICN reduced to 3 times weekly for March 8-April 30
SFO-TPE downgauged from a Boeing 777-300 to a 787-9 for March and April

In addition, UA has issued a travel waivers for all of Northern Italy
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 4:42 pm

mcg wrote:
Is the coach bulkhead on the A319 a hard plastic to the floor bulkhead or is it a soft partial bulkhead that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front? Thanks in advance for any info.

Hard material with space at the bottom that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 6:06 pm

jayunited wrote:
Additional Asia reductions and suspensions as a result of the continual spread COVID-19 and the drop in demand for travel to effected areas.

LAX and IAH-NRT suspended March 8-April 24
ORD-NRT suspended March 8-March 27, the route then switches to ORD-HND on March 28
SFO-HND (Tokyo Haneda) schedule is not affected (starting March 28 UA is still planning to launch daily service to ORD, LAX, IAD and EWR but COVID-19 could change these plans)
EWR-NRT reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
HNL-NRT downgauged to a 787-8 for April
SFO-KIX reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
SFO-SIN reduced to 1x daily for March 8-April 24
SFO-ICN reduced to 3 times weekly for March 8-April 30
SFO-TPE downgauged from a Boeing 777-300 to a 787-9 for March and April

In addition, UA has issued a travel waivers for all of Northern Italy



Any news for SFO-HKG?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Feb 28, 2020 8:03 pm

xxcr wrote:
jayunited wrote:
Additional Asia reductions and suspensions as a result of the continual spread COVID-19 and the drop in demand for travel to effected areas.

LAX and IAH-NRT suspended March 8-April 24
ORD-NRT suspended March 8-March 27, the route then switches to ORD-HND on March 28
SFO-HND (Tokyo Haneda) schedule is not affected (starting March 28 UA is still planning to launch daily service to ORD, LAX, IAD and EWR but COVID-19 could change these plans)
EWR-NRT reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
HNL-NRT downgauged to a 787-8 for April
SFO-KIX reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
SFO-SIN reduced to 1x daily for March 8-April 24
SFO-ICN reduced to 3 times weekly for March 8-April 30
SFO-TPE downgauged from a Boeing 777-300 to a 787-9 for March and April

In addition, UA has issued a travel waivers for all of Northern Italy



Any news for SFO-HKG?

Yes suspended until April 30th.

There was an entire thread on all these changes earlier with discussion but the trigger happy mods deleted it for no reason.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:09 am

Scarebus34 wrote:
Yes suspended until April 30th.

There was an entire thread on all these changes earlier with discussion but the trigger happy mods deleted it for no reason.

You mean this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1439961&p=22043219&hilit=United+Hong+Kong#p22043219

Sounds like perhaps you're a little trigger happy rushing to that judgement without using the search tool.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:10 am

adamblang wrote:
mcg wrote:
Is the coach bulkhead on the A319 a hard plastic to the floor bulkhead or is it a soft partial bulkhead that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front? Thanks in advance for any info.

Hard material with space at the bottom that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front.



Thanks for the information!
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:54 am

Other news that hasn't been discussed in great detail on this site is UA ending their 40 year partnership with the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee.

This story is posted on Flying Together (FT) in which gave employees some details but the LA Times seems to have gotten more details that UA left out on Flying Together.

UA on FT stated the USOPC wanted UA to pay multiple times more than the amount UA currently pays as the official sponsor. According to UA on FT the new official airline agreed to a multi-year deal where they will pay the USOPC $50 million dollars per year. UA would not disclose how much we currently pay the USOPC per year, however this is where the LA Times picks up the story.

The LA Times is reporting that starting in 2021 the new airline sponsor will be DL and they have agreed to a 8 year deal that covers the 2028 Olympics in LA. The LA Times states DL has not publicly confirmed they are the new sponsor but the new sponsor did agree to a $400 million dollar deal which comes out to $50 million dollar per year since the contract runs through the 2028 Olympics.

However where things get a bit interesting is here UA would not disclose what we are currently paying the USOPC on FT, but the LA Times is reporting UA has been paying the USOPC $4 million dollars annually to be the official sponsor. Also according to the LA Times the reason for the jump from $4 million to $50 million per year is because it will cost LA an estimated $7 billion to host the Olympics and they are looking for sponsors to help defer the cost so LA County tax payers don't have to foot the bill.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/20 ... or-sponsor

Congratulations to DL I know the LA market is extremely important to them as it is to UA, but at the reported price of $400 million for 8 years I now understand why UA walked away from a 40 year relationship with the USOPC.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Feb 29, 2020 1:22 am

jayunited, how is CPT doing and is there any chance of JNB to go against DL & SAA (insolvency)?

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