https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n2639u

The plane in question is schedule to fly to XMN. So maintenance is the answer. XMN is the main base for TAECO/HAECO.

Not surprising about the timing given the slack in plane due to the mainland China/HK cuts.

Here is the FLIFO from GDS...gotta be MX as stated above since this shows it's a ferry...

** UA - UNITED AIRLINES **
2747/25FEB
P SFO/OUT 1115A L00.25 EST OFF 1145AFLIGHT PREPARATION
P SFO/OFF 1142A
P GUM/ETA 514P L00.14 FLIGHT PREPARATION
D FCF/FERRY FLIGHT NO REVENUE CUSTOMERS

SKED SFO ORIG 1050A GTD F22 SHIP 139
GUM 500P TERM 1 GTA 5

Guess they wanted to pick up a set of crew, fly the plane to XMN and back on another with the same set?

Michael

eamondzhang wrote:

Guess they wanted to pick up a set of crew, fly the plane to XMN and back on another with the same set?

Michael

90% of the time an Engineering crew flies the airplanes into and out of overhauls and heavy checks. so they may well be time limited. or? the line crews may be flying the airplane to GUM and an engineering crew flying it to XMN.

As mentioned before I think this is all about not having to layover crews in China at the moment

Staging out of Gum allows for a return flight on the same day

Max Q wrote:

As mentioned before I think this is all about not having to layover crews in China at the moment

Staging out of Gum allows for a return flight on the same day

This is has been discussed on the UA fleet thread.
This point is what has been stated by UA insiders, all crew rotations go through GUM. It makes for more complicated routings, but for the health and safety of the UA employees this is a good option to still allow maintenance/conversions to happen.

strfyr51 wrote:

eamondzhang wrote:

Guess they wanted to pick up a set of crew, fly the plane to XMN and back on another with the same set?

Michael

90% of the time an Engineering crew flies the airplanes into and out of overhauls and heavy checks. so they may well be time limited. or? the line crews may be flying the airplane to GUM and an engineering crew flying it to XMN.

You have it backwards. 90% of the time line pilots fly the ferry trips in and out of heavy MX in places like HKG, XMN. Under certain circumstances will tech ops pilots do it. I’ve seen them do the MX verification flights and then continue on to the ferry trip.

Great replies! Thanks all.

calpsafltskeds wrote:

319:
N823UA entered SFO 2440/21Feb, sked exit412/24Feb, potential 12F config, but seat map still shows 8F

763:
N646UA entered MCO maint 2763/23Feb

772:
N774UA sked to enter HKG 2700/25Feb, maint. crew probably to turn to N78008
N77008 confirmed to sked to exit HKG 2699/25Feb with Polaris/PP
N78009 sitting in GUM, probably will ferry when N74007 exits - should be about 3 days behind N77008

N789/X:
N29977 has had 2 Boeing test flights
N29978 is now in Pre Flight
N13013 is in Final Assembly

We forgot one
77W
N2352U now in pre flight PAE (last 77W.... Supposedly)

738:
N27213 sked to exit AMA 2694/26Feb in EvoBlu livery

772:
N77006 sked to exit VCV 2733/25Feb, should be EvoBlu, aircraft carried Robert F. Six name.
N79011 entered AMA paint 2764/25Feb

788:
Entry and exit of N26906 and N29907 at XMN (Polaris/PP) delayed 1 day with same flight numbers.

789:
N29977 Sked delivery flight 2707/27Feb CHS-ORD

319:
N825UA entered SFO 2278/24Feb, assume 12F config mod

763:
N646UA sked to exit MCO maint 2737/26Feb

77W:
N2138U sked to exit XMN maint 2693/27Feb
N2639U sked to enter XMN maint 2692/27Feb
N2352U according to FR24 may have had a taxi test 2/22/20

78X:
N12012 resked 1st revenue flight 407/26Feb ORD-DEN

UAX Update:

CR5:
N511GJ exited AMA in EvoBlu livery, at STL awaiting service entry
N642CA (2003 build) entered AMA for new livery, will become N523GJ

Also,
A319 N875UA is on its way to ORD for induction

GUM becoming staging area for China mod/maint units

772:
N221UA sked to enter GUM 2751/28Feb, probably to replace N222UA domestic mod when ready
N798UA entered GUM 2/21/20, might be positioning for XMN maint (Polaris unit), best guess would be maint after 77W N2737U exits HKG
N77022 entered GUM 2/27/20, probably positioning for replace N74007 when ready

788:
N26909 sked to exit XMN 2691/28Feb with Polaris/PP

789:
N15969 entered GUM 2/25, probably to replace 788 N26909 in mod - thought 788s would go through mod first?

Can anyone confirm the following?:
N26960 in EvoBlu or was VCV visit for touch up
N77006, exited VCV paint, should be in EvoBlu, is she still named Robert F. Six?

calpsafltskeds wrote:

GUM becoming staging area for China mod/maint units

772:
N221UA sked to enter GUM 2751/28Feb, probably to replace N222UA domestic mod when ready
N798UA entered GUM 2/21/20, might be positioning for XMN maint (Polaris unit), best guess would be maint after 77W N2737U exits HKG
N77022 entered GUM 2/27/20, probably positioning for replace N74007 when ready

788:
N26909 sked to exit XMN 2691/28Feb with Polaris/PP

789:
N15969 entered GUM 2/25, probably to replace 788 N26909 in mod - thought 788s would go through mod first?

Can anyone confirm the following?:
N26960 in EvoBlu or was VCV visit for touch up
N77006, exited VCV paint, should be in EvoBlu, is she still named Robert F. Six?

https://twitter.com/shorealonefilms/sta ... 30368?s=21

Hard to judge, but looks like the Robert F. Six titles are there in lieu of the ”Connecting People. Uniting the World” titles.

f18raider wrote:

calpsafltskeds wrote:

GUM becoming staging area for China mod/maint units

772:
N221UA sked to enter GUM 2751/28Feb, probably to replace N222UA domestic mod when ready
N798UA entered GUM 2/21/20, might be positioning for XMN maint (Polaris unit), best guess would be maint after 77W N2737U exits HKG
N77022 entered GUM 2/27/20, probably positioning for replace N74007 when ready

788:
N26909 sked to exit XMN 2691/28Feb with Polaris/PP

789:
N15969 entered GUM 2/25, probably to replace 788 N26909 in mod - thought 788s would go through mod first?

Can anyone confirm the following?:
N26960 in EvoBlu or was VCV visit for touch up
N77006, exited VCV paint, should be in EvoBlu, is she still named Robert F. Six?

https://twitter.com/shorealonefilms/sta ... 30368?s=21

Hard to judge, but looks like the Robert F. Six titles are there in lieu of the ”Connecting People. Uniting the World” titles.

I was able to get a closer look and yes, you are absolutely correct. Mr.Six is still there.

On the N26960 paint Q; It will be arriving SFO at 1100 today, 27th, and stay till late evening if any spotters are there.

calpsafltskeds wrote:

789:
N15969 entered GUM 2/25, probably to replace 788 N26909 in mod - thought 788s would go through mod first?

N15969 is the last 789 schedule to enter XMN until July 2020. From March to July UA will focus on the 788s.


Also N29977 was flown to ORD today as UA2707 for induction. Let us all hope ORD does not put another brand new 789 out of service.

Speaking of ORD and 787s its been a tough week for ORD maintenance they finally put N12012 into revenue service this morning after multiple attempts earlier this week resulted in last minute plane changes and a lot of disappointed customers.

Is the coach bulkhead on the A319 a hard plastic to the floor bulkhead or is it a soft partial bulkhead that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front? Thanks in advance for any info.

calpsafltskeds wrote:

G
N77006, exited VCV paint, should be in EvoBlu, is she still named Robert F. Six?

Yes, it still has the Robert F. Six name.

United needs to name an airplane after Pat Patterson ASAP.

codc10 wrote:

United needs to name an airplane after Pat Patterson ASAP.

Wasn’t he on a 744?

scairbus wrote:

codc10 wrote:

United needs to name an airplane after Pat Patterson ASAP.

Wasn’t he on a 744?

A few airplanes over the years... none of which remain in the fleet.

Bob Six certainly deserves recognition as strongly relevant to the history of this airline... as does Gordon Bethune (Kellner, not so much). But if the company had an airplane named after Sam Ashmore until recently, there’s really no excuse for not having one named after the central figure of the formative years of United Air Lines.

codc10 wrote:

scairbus wrote:

codc10 wrote:

United needs to name an airplane after Pat Patterson ASAP.

Wasn’t he on a 744?

A few airplanes over the years... none of which remain in the fleet.

Bob Six certainly deserves recognition as strongly relevant to the history of this airline... as does Gordon Bethune (Kellner, not so much). But if the company had an airplane named after Sam Ashmore until recently, there’s really no excuse for not having one named after the central figure of the formative years of United Air Lines.

I expect we’ll see an Oscar Munoz in a few years. He really turned the airline around.

77H

319:
N847UA exited AMA 2759/27Feb in EvoBlu livery

772:
N221UA sked to enter XMN 2698/1Mar, Expect Domestic mod, N222UA not sked out yet
N69020 entered VCV 2746/27Feb for EvoBlu livery

Additional Asia reductions and suspensions as a result of the continual spread COVID-19 and the drop in demand for travel to effected areas.

LAX and IAH-NRT suspended March 8-April 24
ORD-NRT suspended March 8-March 27, the route then switches to ORD-HND on March 28
SFO-HND (Tokyo Haneda) schedule is not affected (starting March 28 UA is still planning to launch daily service to ORD, LAX, IAD and EWR but COVID-19 could change these plans)
EWR-NRT reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
HNL-NRT downgauged to a 787-8 for April
SFO-KIX reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
SFO-SIN reduced to 1x daily for March 8-April 24
SFO-ICN reduced to 3 times weekly for March 8-April 30
SFO-TPE downgauged from a Boeing 777-300 to a 787-9 for March and April

In addition, UA has issued a travel waivers for all of Northern Italy

mcg wrote:

Is the coach bulkhead on the A319 a hard plastic to the floor bulkhead or is it a soft partial bulkhead that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front? Thanks in advance for any info.

Hard material with space at the bottom that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front.

jayunited wrote:

Additional Asia reductions and suspensions as a result of the continual spread COVID-19 and the drop in demand for travel to effected areas.

LAX and IAH-NRT suspended March 8-April 24
ORD-NRT suspended March 8-March 27, the route then switches to ORD-HND on March 28
SFO-HND (Tokyo Haneda) schedule is not affected (starting March 28 UA is still planning to launch daily service to ORD, LAX, IAD and EWR but COVID-19 could change these plans)
EWR-NRT reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
HNL-NRT downgauged to a 787-8 for April
SFO-KIX reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
SFO-SIN reduced to 1x daily for March 8-April 24
SFO-ICN reduced to 3 times weekly for March 8-April 30
SFO-TPE downgauged from a Boeing 777-300 to a 787-9 for March and April

In addition, UA has issued a travel waivers for all of Northern Italy

Any news for SFO-HKG?

xxcr wrote:

jayunited wrote:

Additional Asia reductions and suspensions as a result of the continual spread COVID-19 and the drop in demand for travel to effected areas.

LAX and IAH-NRT suspended March 8-April 24
ORD-NRT suspended March 8-March 27, the route then switches to ORD-HND on March 28
SFO-HND (Tokyo Haneda) schedule is not affected (starting March 28 UA is still planning to launch daily service to ORD, LAX, IAD and EWR but COVID-19 could change these plans)
EWR-NRT reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
HNL-NRT downgauged to a 787-8 for April
SFO-KIX reduced to 5 times weekly for March 28-April 24
SFO-SIN reduced to 1x daily for March 8-April 24
SFO-ICN reduced to 3 times weekly for March 8-April 30
SFO-TPE downgauged from a Boeing 777-300 to a 787-9 for March and April

In addition, UA has issued a travel waivers for all of Northern Italy

Any news for SFO-HKG?

Yes suspended until April 30th.

There was an entire thread on all these changes earlier with discussion but the trigger happy mods deleted it for no reason.

Scarebus34 wrote:

Yes suspended until April 30th.

There was an entire thread on all these changes earlier with discussion but the trigger happy mods deleted it for no reason.

You mean this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1439961&p=22043219&hilit=United+Hong+Kong#p22043219

Sounds like perhaps you're a little trigger happy rushing to that judgement without using the search tool.

adamblang wrote:

mcg wrote:

Is the coach bulkhead on the A319 a hard plastic to the floor bulkhead or is it a soft partial bulkhead that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front? Thanks in advance for any info.

Hard material with space at the bottom that allows carry on bags to be stored under the first class seat in front.

Thanks for the information!

Other news that hasn't been discussed in great detail on this site is UA ending their 40 year partnership with the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Committee.

This story is posted on Flying Together (FT) in which gave employees some details but the LA Times seems to have gotten more details that UA left out on Flying Together.

UA on FT stated the USOPC wanted UA to pay multiple times more than the amount UA currently pays as the official sponsor. According to UA on FT the new official airline agreed to a multi-year deal where they will pay the USOPC $50 million dollars per year. UA would not disclose how much we currently pay the USOPC per year, however this is where the LA Times picks up the story.

The LA Times is reporting that starting in 2021 the new airline sponsor will be DL and they have agreed to a 8 year deal that covers the 2028 Olympics in LA. The LA Times states DL has not publicly confirmed they are the new sponsor but the new sponsor did agree to a $400 million dollar deal which comes out to $50 million dollar per year since the contract runs through the 2028 Olympics.

However where things get a bit interesting is here UA would not disclose what we are currently paying the USOPC on FT, but the LA Times is reporting UA has been paying the USOPC $4 million dollars annually to be the official sponsor. Also according to the LA Times the reason for the jump from $4 million to $50 million per year is because it will cost LA an estimated $7 billion to host the Olympics and they are looking for sponsors to help defer the cost so LA County tax payers don't have to foot the bill.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/20 ... or-sponsor

Congratulations to DL I know the LA market is extremely important to them as it is to UA, but at the reported price of $400 million for 8 years I now understand why UA walked away from a 40 year relationship with the USOPC.

jayunited, how is CPT doing and is there any chance of JNB to go against DL & SAA (insolvency)?

atcsundevil wrote:

Scarebus34 wrote:

Yes suspended until April 30th.

There was an entire thread on all these changes earlier with discussion but the trigger happy mods deleted it for no reason.

You mean this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1439961&p=22043219&hilit=United+Hong+Kong#p22043219

Sounds like perhaps you're a little trigger happy rushing to that judgement without using the search tool.

No, that is not it. He started the thread (it was titled United trasnpac cuts" or similar and I saw it this morning and posted a comment in it at 9am ET.
It basically called out all of the changes listed in this thread but was sooner. Now under the new rules, it probably should have been posted here, but then it should have merged into this thread.

ordbosewr wrote:

atcsundevil wrote:

Scarebus34 wrote:

Yes suspended until April 30th.

There was an entire thread on all these changes earlier with discussion but the trigger happy mods deleted it for no reason.

You mean this thread?

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1439961&p=22043219&hilit=United+Hong+Kong#p22043219

Sounds like perhaps you're a little trigger happy rushing to that judgement without using the search tool.

No, that is not it. He started the thread (it was titled United trasnpac cuts" or similar and I saw it this morning and posted a comment in it at 9am ET.
It basically called out all of the changes listed in this thread but was sooner. Now under the new rules, it probably should have been posted here, but then it should have merged into this thread.

The thread I posted is where that information belongs, but things specifically affecting United can be discussed here as well. Either way, it's being discussed in two places.

772:
N74007 sked to exit HKG 2700/1Mar with Polaris/PP
N77022 sked to enter HKG 2699/1Mar for Polaris/PP

N77006 was painted on the new livery. I saw her at EWR yesterday 2/28. Thankfully they also re-painted her with the Robert Six name in the new blue. Looks gorgeous!

UAX Update:

CR5:
N542GJ entered revenue service with GoJet
N165GJ has been re-registered as N544GJ. Entered revenue service with GoJet
26 total in service
N707EV (2002 build) ferried STL awaiting CR5 mods, will become N513GJ

That’s too bad about the Olympic sponsorship, though at the same time, the Olympics are a scam that probably wouldn’t have been worth spending all that extra money on.

In the same vein, I wish United had some smaller but important partnerships. I don’t know why they don’t sponsor the SF Chinese New Year Parade (WN does oddly enough), Alaska sponsors the SF Giants and SF Pride, and Frontier is still the Colorado Rockies sponsor.

jetmatt777 wrote:

intotheair wrote:

That’s too bad about the Olympic sponsorship, though at the same time, the Olympics are a scam that probably wouldn’t have been worth spending all that extra money on.

In the same vein, I wish United had some smaller but important partnerships. I don’t know why they don’t sponsor the SF Chinese New Year Parade (WN does oddly enough), Alaska sponsors the SF Giants and SF Pride, and Frontier is still the Colorado Rockies sponsor.

Agreed. It would be nice to see more external engagement of the United brand.

They do a fair amount of smaller partnerships in addition to the national ones:

https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/co ... ships.html

This isn't a complete list as I've seen UA sponsoring the SF Gay Mens Chorus and the Rock and Roll Marathon here in the Bay.

320:
N492UA exited AMA 2719/28Feb in EvoBlu livery

739:
N64844 exited INT 2749/27Feb with ViaSat WiFi.
Other units confirmed with ViaSat WFi at INT: 1/c 3839 through 3845 & 3883 thru 3886.
Units unconfirmed: 3887

772:
N222UA sked to exit HKG 2703/1Mar in Domestic config. On UA App shows 32BF seats, but E+/Y split doesn't match what was expected
N74007 sked to exit HKG 2700/1Mar with Polaris/PP

789:
N26966 entered VCV 2736/29Feb, touch up, but probably full EvoBlu repaint . Last paint 2016 at delivery
N26967 sked to exit VCV 2737/29Feb, touch up, but probably full EvoBlu repaint. Last paint 2016 at delivery

LGeneReese wrote:

UAinAUS wrote:

UAX Update:

CR5:
N542GJ exited AMA in EvoBlu livery, at STL awaiting service entry

E175SC:
All 25 ExpressJet 175SCs will transfer to Skywest over the next 15 months

E145XR:
TransStates Airlines will dissolve by the end of 2020. All 36 XRs will be transferred to ExpressJet

I think that’s where most, if not all, of the 145XRs came from... All those EV pilots who just moved to the 175 now have to go back....

It is. Prior to UA shifting XRs to TransStates, EV was the only operator of the subtype.

drerx7 wrote:

1989worstyear wrote:

UA444 wrote:

I wish they had gotten a full refit in Y and it was disappointing they didn’t, but part of the reason why the 763 and 744 didn’t get an overhaul to redo the Y section was because they didn’t intend on flying them this long. And yes, they had to be picky at the time on where they spent some capital. Thats why the 777’s got nose to tail refits, since they were part of the long term plan and quite young at the time. The 25 788’s they ordered in 2009 were to replace the 21 international 763’s and the 25 A350s was to replace the 744. They weren’t interested in the 773 and wanted the next gen engine tech beyond that. Nobody could’ve seen them operating the older 767s today. I’m glad they’re still going but that wasn’t the intent back in 2009 when they ordered new aircraft.

Covid-19 will clean out the 763's shortly.

How when no UA 763s go tpac...

Covid-19 is not limited to TPAC/Asia anymore. This virus is world-wide so the challenge for UA and other carriers is to boost capacity where demand dictates with the wide bodies now idled by decreasing long haul demand. The Cancun and Phoenix adds are an example. I'd expect to see some adds for California, Florida and possibly larger gauge to Hawaii depending on logistics at the outstation.

I understand why UA would walk away from their Olympic’s “official airline” program, that is a ton of money that can be spent on a good number of other under funded good organizations. I have friends who work tirelessly for nonprofit organizations that do wonderful things, but are limited due to lack of capital.
It would be great to see UA help veterans in big way. Doctors Without Borders, and create special liveries!
Since I live in NYC, and live 3 blocks from The Stonewall, I see what UA has done there that is meaningful and much appreciated in the community. I'm unsure what would the BEST other ”good deed/give back” community initiatives they could do here? But, although NYC is so dominated by the rich today (compared to my childhood) I don't know which organization would give them the best ”do good” and be visible.
United’s massive advertising in Manhattan, is unavoidable...and I don't know if there is anything significant in the way of future, fast mass transit in the works?
I've always wondered if a United ferry boat could get close enough to EWR?

Quick United EWR TC report: This past week I went into one of the brand new refurbished men’s rooms. Everything has been redesigned from floor to ceiling. I must say, who ever UA hired to re-do the concourse restrooms has fabulous taste. The new tiles, floors, sinks and mirrors and even the toilet stalls are really upscale and beautiful. I suspect the blue and taupe glass tiles that have waves of different colored curved lines must have been expensive. Aside from the United Club conundrum, the public restrooms were the final frontier for TC and the designer is welcome to refurb my bathroom at home! (however UA has yet to realize they have HVAC issues worldwide...1 person can turn a whole section into a gas chamber!)

752:
N19141 exited MIA 2760/29Feb in 16/160 config.

763:
N659UA exited ILN maint 2764/1Mar

789:
N15969 confirmed into XMN 2690/28Feb for Polaris/PP

789 has been in GRU from IAH a few times this week