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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:45 pm

jayunited wrote:
There are seven 763s remaining, they are some of the oldest 763s in our fleet. I would guess UA might suspend the 763 line at HKG because these 7 remaining frames were originally schedule for retirement. COVID-19 might cause UA to rethink that decision especially seeing that UA expects the fallout from COVID-19 to be felt for months if not a year or more. I don't believe UA will make a decision now about these 7 frames but in the coming months I think these 7 frames might find themselves again on the retirement list especially if the remaining 767 Polaris inventory at HKG can be placed on the 764 fleet.

From what I'm hearing here at Willis is some people don't believe the industry will fully recover from this until 2022 if that is the case I think the 7 oldest 763 will be retired.


One of those seven sent for conversion today, so we're down to 6. I too, would be surprised if all 6 remaining made the conversion, but maybe they already purchased the seats?

Now, the 752 PW's probably have no chance. And perhaps a couple of very early build PMUA HD Domestic 772's.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:29 pm

Is it looking like UA is still planning to return to Asia May 1st?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:03 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Is it looking like UA is still planning to return to Asia May 1st?


Honestly, there's no way anybody knows anything about what the airline industry will look like on May 1 at this point.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:06 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Is it looking like UA is still planning to return to Asia May 1st?


Doubt it, maybe a couple routes. They’re cutting 50% for April and May so a lot of the feed wouldn’t be there.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:08 pm

Club closures effective 3/18

DEN West B32 United Club
EWR C93 pop-up United Club
EWR Polaris lounge
EWR A2 United Club
IAD C4 United Club
IAD C7 United Club
IAH Polaris lounge
IAH A9 United Club
IAH B Mezzanine United Club
IAH C33 United Club
LAX Polaris lounge
ORD Polaris lounge
ORD B18 United Club
ORD T2 United Club
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SFO E4 United Club
SFO Polaris lounge
NRT VIP section
LHR VIP section
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:29 pm

I heard United will be storing 100 aircraft. Roswell, NM is one storage location.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:38 pm

KVH68 wrote:
I heard United will be storing 100 aircraft. Roswell, NM is one storage location.

Sounds very alien a place to me...
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 12:22 am

jetmatt777 wrote:
Club closures effective 3/18

DEN West B32 United Club
EWR C93 pop-up United Club
EWR Polaris lounge
EWR A2 United Club
IAD C4 United Club
IAD C7 United Club
IAH Polaris lounge
IAH A9 United Club
IAH B Mezzanine United Club
IAH C33 United Club
LAX Polaris lounge
ORD Polaris lounge
ORD B18 United Club
ORD T2 United Club
SFO Temp BAE Mezzanine United Club
SFO E4 United Club
SFO Polaris lounge
NRT VIP section
LHR VIP section


I'm kind of surprised they're closing hub clubs no line station clubs
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:01 am

fun2fly wrote:
jayunited wrote:
There are seven 763s remaining, they are some of the oldest 763s in our fleet. I would guess UA might suspend the 763 line at HKG because these 7 remaining frames were originally schedule for retirement. COVID-19 might cause UA to rethink that decision especially seeing that UA expects the fallout from COVID-19 to be felt for months if not a year or more. I don't believe UA will make a decision now about these 7 frames but in the coming months I think these 7 frames might find themselves again on the retirement list especially if the remaining 767 Polaris inventory at HKG can be placed on the 764 fleet.

From what I'm hearing here at Willis is some people don't believe the industry will fully recover from this until 2022 if that is the case I think the 7 oldest 763 will be retired.


One of those seven sent for conversion today, so we're down to 6. I too, would be surprised if all 6 remaining made the conversion, but maybe they already purchased the seats?

Now, the 752 PW's probably have no chance. And perhaps a couple of very early build PMUA HD Domestic 772's.

I hope all the 763s and PW 757 stay
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:11 am

FSDan wrote:
Seems like everything is more or less "full steam ahead" with regard to mods and repainting so far? I wonder if that will change soon... Delta announced they were suspending mods (which IIRC is mostly just the 764 fleet at the time being) while parking a ton of widebodies.

I also hope the new high-J 763 configuration and the CR5s are still viable in whatever economy emerges from this pandemic. What looked like a great decision to add a bunch more premium seats not very long ago is now looking like potentially poor timing.

I would suspect after this is over business travel will bounce back much faster than leisure, so it may be an even better idea.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 1:35 am

ericm2031 wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Club closures effective 3/18

DEN West B32 United Club
EWR C93 pop-up United Club
EWR Polaris lounge
EWR A2 United Club
IAD C4 United Club
IAD C7 United Club
IAH Polaris lounge
IAH A9 United Club
IAH B Mezzanine United Club
IAH C33 United Club
LAX Polaris lounge
ORD Polaris lounge
ORD B18 United Club
ORD T2 United Club
SFO Temp BAE Mezzanine United Club
SFO E4 United Club
SFO Polaris lounge
NRT VIP section
LHR VIP section


I'm kind of surprised they're closing hub clubs no line station clubs


There are multiple locations in the hubs and with the lower traffic demand, no need to leave them all open
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:13 am

UA444 wrote:
I hope all the 763s and PW 757 stay


PW 757s will be the first fleet to exit... many older frames, oddball engine, small fleet, and already planned to retire within the next two years.

Expect some of the oldest 763s to go, as well.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 2:20 am

Amwest2United wrote:
ericm2031 wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Club closures effective 3/18

DEN West B32 United Club
EWR C93 pop-up United Club
EWR Polaris lounge
EWR A2 United Club
IAD C4 United Club
IAD C7 United Club
IAH Polaris lounge
IAH A9 United Club
IAH B Mezzanine United Club
IAH C33 United Club
LAX Polaris lounge
ORD Polaris lounge
ORD B18 United Club
ORD T2 United Club
SFO Temp BAE Mezzanine United Club
SFO E4 United Club
SFO Polaris lounge
NRT VIP section
LHR VIP section


I'm kind of surprised they're closing hub clubs no line station clubs


There are multiple locations in the hubs and with the lower traffic demand, no need to leave them all open

In IAH two clubs, C North, and E, will remain open... these are the two biggest/ newest at IAH
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:00 am

cosyr wrote:
FSDan wrote:
Seems like everything is more or less "full steam ahead" with regard to mods and repainting so far? I wonder if that will change soon... Delta announced they were suspending mods (which IIRC is mostly just the 764 fleet at the time being) while parking a ton of widebodies.

I also hope the new high-J 763 configuration and the CR5s are still viable in whatever economy emerges from this pandemic. What looked like a great decision to add a bunch more premium seats not very long ago is now looking like potentially poor timing.

I would suspect after this is over business travel will bounce back much faster than leisure, so it may be an even better idea.


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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:11 am

codc10 wrote:
UA444 wrote:
I hope all the 763s and PW 757 stay


PW 757s will be the first fleet to exit... many older frames, oddball engine, small fleet, and already planned to retire within the next two years.

I agree. THere's no chance any of the PW birds fly out of the desert when this is all over, at least for UA.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:12 am

KLMatSJC wrote:
codc10 wrote:
UA444 wrote:
I hope all the 763s and PW 757 stay


PW 757s will be the first fleet to exit... many older frames, oddball engine, small fleet, and already planned to retire within the next two years.

I agree. THere's no chance any of the PW birds fly out of the desert when this is all over, at least for UA.


I agree this is the end of the PW powered 752s at UA especially with the 737-10s coming online (theoretically) later this year.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:42 am

Have the ex-HA 767s entered revenue service yet, or are they still in GYR?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:48 am

KFTG wrote:
Have the ex-HA 767s entered revenue service yet, or are they still in GYR?


They are in service...two of them flew IAD-LHR today and the other one did ORD-LHR
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:52 am

KFTG wrote:
Have the ex-HA 767s entered revenue service yet, or are they still in GYR?

They are N684/5/6UA and have been in service for over a year (correct me if I’m in error)
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 3:36 pm

So Taiwan is placing California / NYC / Washington states plus most of the rest of Asia under level 3 quarantine now. Means mandatory 14-days quarantine for anyone arriving from these places. I wonder how long the SFO-TPE route can last at this point?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:45 pm

Last IPTE 772 N220UA (save the extra in GUM) headed to Roswell...3/18.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:03 pm

AaronPGH wrote:
So Taiwan is placing California / NYC / Washington states plus most of the rest of Asia under level 3 quarantine now. Means mandatory 14-days quarantine for anyone arriving from these places. I wonder how long the SFO-TPE route can last at this point?


It'll be suspended and resume when Taiwan sees that certain states in the US have contained the virus...
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:43 pm

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codc10 wrote:
UA444 wrote:
I hope all the 763s and PW 757 stay


PW 757s will be the first fleet to exit... many older frames, oddball engine, small fleet, and already planned to retire within the next two years.

Expect some of the oldest 763s to go, as well.

Hopefully Amazon takes a look at them for their fleet since 763s are (were) in demand before all of this.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:05 am

N14219 came out rocking the new Star Alliance EvoBlue livery. Looks quite good.

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:49 am

Today United announced a 60 percent schedule reduction in April--this includes a 42 percent reduction across the U.S. and Canada and an 85 percent decrease in international flights. Across the Atlantic, Pacific and Latin America, United will operate approximately 45 daily flights in April.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:57 am

KVH68 wrote:
Today United announced a 60 percent schedule reduction in April--this includes a 42 percent reduction across the U.S. and Canada and an 85 percent decrease in international flights. Across the Atlantic, Pacific and Latin America, United will operate approximately 45 daily flights in April.


While United does not plan to suspend service to any single U.S. city now - with the exception of Mammoth Lakes, CA - the airline is closely monitoring demand as well as changes in state and local curfews and government restrictions across the U.S. and will adjust its schedule accordingly throughout the month.

Domestic route suspensions for April/May

Denver:
    Arcata/Eureka

Newark:
    Akron/Canton
    Hilton Head
    Honolulu
    Omaha
    Portland, Oregon
    Seattle
    Sacramento
    Knoxville
    Fayetteville
    Salt Lake City

Washington Dulles
    Grand Rapids
    Honolulu
    Portland, Oregon
    Sacramento

Houston
    Hartford
    Boise
    Grand Rapids
    Lexington
    Ontario, California
    Palm Springs
    San Jose, California
    Akron/Canton
    Reno
    Edmonton, Canada
    Vancouver, Canada

Los Angeles
    Austin
    Baltimore
    Kahului (Maui)
    Kona
    Lihue
    Madison
    San Antonio
    St. George
    Mammoth, California

Chicago
    Bismarck
    Kahului (Maui)
    Bozeman
    Fresno
    Spokane
    Palm Springs
    Reno
    San Jose, California
    Ottawa, Canada
    Eugene
    Wilmington
    Jackson, Mississippi

San Francisco
    Nashville
    Baltimore
    Columbus, Ohio
    Detroit
    Indianapolis
    Kansas City
    Madison
    Omaha
    Philadelphia
    Pittsburgh
    Raleigh/Durham
    San Antonio
    St. Louis
    Tampa
    Toronto, Canada
    Mammoth Lakes, California
    Fort Lauderdale
    New Orleans
    Fayetteville
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:59 am

redrooster3 wrote:
N14219 came out rocking the new Star Alliance EvoBlue livery. Looks quite good.

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Ironically with the new scheme once again incorporating blue engines, the *A livery is almost the same as it was with the Rising Blue.

Glad to see that it wasn't repainted into a standard livery.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:14 am

Midwestindy wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
Today United announced a 60 percent schedule reduction in April--this includes a 42 percent reduction across the U.S. and Canada and an 85 percent decrease in international flights. Across the Atlantic, Pacific and Latin America, United will operate approximately 45 daily flights in April.


While United does not plan to suspend service to any single U.S. city now - with the exception of Mammoth Lakes, CA - the airline is closely monitoring demand as well as changes in state and local curfews and government restrictions across the U.S. and will adjust its schedule accordingly throughout the month.

Domestic route suspensions for April/May

Denver:
    Arcata/Eureka

Newark:
    Akron/Canton
    Hilton Head
    Honolulu
    Omaha
    Portland, Oregon
    Seattle
    Sacramento
    Knoxville
    Fayetteville
    Salt Lake City

Washington Dulles
    Grand Rapids
    Honolulu
    Portland, Oregon
    Sacramento

Houston
    Hartford
    Boise
    Grand Rapids
    Lexington
    Ontario, California
    Palm Springs
    San Jose, California
    Akron/Canton
    Reno
    Edmonton, Canada
    Vancouver, Canada

Los Angeles
    Austin
    Baltimore
    Kahului (Maui)
    Kona
    Lihue
    Madison
    San Antonio
    St. George
    Mammoth, California

Chicago
    Bismarck
    Kahului (Maui)
    Bozeman
    Fresno
    Spokane
    Palm Springs
    Reno
    San Jose, California
    Ottawa, Canada
    Eugene
    Wilmington
    Jackson, Mississippi

San Francisco
    Nashville
    Baltimore
    Columbus, Ohio
    Detroit
    Indianapolis
    Kansas City
    Madison
    Omaha
    Philadelphia
    Pittsburgh
    Raleigh/Durham
    San Antonio
    St. Louis
    Tampa
    Toronto, Canada
    Mammoth Lakes, California
    Fort Lauderdale
    New Orleans
    Fayetteville


San Francisco is hit hardest and Denver barely touched.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:52 am

772 GE N76010 & N78013 headed to GUM today. The last 772 GE 77014 in Diamond BF is stuck in the IAH>CUN loop daily.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:50 am

Does anyone have any insight into what is up with this flight?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N29968
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n29968

UA104 is the regular flight # for SFO-DEL. But this one operated from IAH with a 104D. Weirdly when I checked earlier Flight Aware showed that it was scheduled to operate DEL-EWR and FR24 showed it is scheduled to operate DEL-SFO at the regular time. Initially I thought this might be some capacity adjustment. Now both websites have removed the upcoming flights from their pages.

Apologies if this isn't the right thread for this question.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:17 pm

VTORD wrote:
Does anyone have any insight into what is up with this flight?
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N29968
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n29968

UA104 is the regular flight # for SFO-DEL. But this one operated from IAH with a 104D. Weirdly when I checked earlier Flight Aware showed that it was scheduled to operate DEL-EWR and FR24 showed it is scheduled to operate DEL-SFO at the regular time. Initially I thought this might be some capacity adjustment. Now both websites have removed the upcoming flights from their pages.

Apologies if this isn't the right thread for this question.


This is the correct thread for this question another poster brought it up in the COVID-19 thread. Let me start off by saying this was not COVID-19 related.

UA104-16 was enroute SFO-DEL when the left engine PSROV illuminated, this condition prevents operations into icing conditions. with icing conditions being forecasted at SFO, LAX, DEN, ORD, IAD and EWR the only available hub was IAH. Hence the diversion into IAH for UA104-16.

As far as the return there are very strict rules in place covering theater acclimation. Those rules cover mandatory crew rest and how many hours a flight crew can fly once they become acclimated to new theater. As a result UA105-18 will operate over 15.5 hours late and fly DEL-EWR, change crews and customers will clear immigration at EWR, the flight will then continue as a domestic arrival EWR-SFO.

UA105-19 is canceled for crew rest rules as well, and an extra section will be flown on the March 20th. The flight crew of the extra section should be legal to fly DEL-SFO nonstop.
 
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:28 pm

alpine1989 wrote:


Safe to assume any mainline flight to ROW these days is for storage.
 
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:31 pm

codc10 wrote:
alpine1989 wrote:


Safe to assume any mainline flight to ROW these days is for storage.

They do have a paint shop there, but I'm guessing it's probably storage. MZJ has almost as many Delta widebodies at ATL today.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:03 pm

319:
N818UA sked to exit SFO 2486/18Mar, qwF config confirmed

772:
N220UA sked to enter ROW storage 2748/18Mar, with 219UA in GUM, this is last ITPE unit
N768UA sked to enter ROW storage 2750/19Mar, domestic unit
N76010 sked to enter GUM 2756/18Mar, pre-positioning for eventual Polaris Mod
N78013 sked to enter GUM 2757/18Mar, pre-positioning for eventual Polaris Mod

789:
N27957 exited VCV after only a couple days, sked to return to VCV for paint, but cancelled - not being painted
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:24 pm

jayunited wrote:

This is the correct thread for this question another poster brought it up in the COVID-19 thread. Let me start off by saying this was not COVID-19 related.

UA104-16 was enroute SFO-DEL when the left engine PSROV illuminated, this condition prevents operations into icing conditions. with icing conditions being forecasted at SFO, LAX, DEN, ORD, IAD and EWR the only available hub was IAH. Hence the diversion into IAH for UA104-16.

As far as the return there are very strict rules in place covering theater acclimation. Those rules cover mandatory crew rest and how many hours a flight crew can fly once they become acclimated to new theater. As a result UA105-18 will operate over 15.5 hours late and fly DEL-EWR, change crews and customers will clear immigration at EWR, the flight will then continue as a domestic arrival EWR-SFO.

UA105-19 is canceled for crew rest rules as well, and an extra section will be flown on the March 20th. The flight crew of the extra section should be legal to fly DEL-SFO nonstop.


Thank you! For the detailed reply..not in a million years I would imagine this :D
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:53 pm

OK, super fast Domestic mod completion of ferry out to storage?
772:
N221UA sked to exit HKG 2699/20Mar after just 19 days in mod for Domestic config. With lav/galley and all seats changed surprised and pleased if correct
N76010 sked to enter HKG 2698 20Mar for Polaris/PP
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:09 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
Today United announced a 60 percent schedule reduction in April--this includes a 42 percent reduction across the U.S. and Canada and an 85 percent decrease in international flights. Across the Atlantic, Pacific and Latin America, United will operate approximately 45 daily flights in April.


While United does not plan to suspend service to any single U.S. city now - with the exception of Mammoth Lakes, CA - the airline is closely monitoring demand as well as changes in state and local curfews and government restrictions across the U.S. and will adjust its schedule accordingly throughout the month.

Domestic route suspensions for April/May

Denver:
    Arcata/Eureka

Newark:
    Akron/Canton
    Hilton Head
    Honolulu
    Omaha
    Portland, Oregon
    Seattle
    Sacramento
    Knoxville
    Fayetteville
    Salt Lake City

Washington Dulles
    Grand Rapids
    Honolulu
    Portland, Oregon
    Sacramento

Houston
    Hartford
    Boise
    Grand Rapids
    Lexington
    Ontario, California
    Palm Springs
    San Jose, California
    Akron/Canton
    Reno
    Edmonton, Canada
    Vancouver, Canada

Los Angeles
    Austin
    Baltimore
    Kahului (Maui)
    Kona
    Lihue
    Madison
    San Antonio
    St. George
    Mammoth, California

Chicago
    Bismarck
    Kahului (Maui)
    Bozeman
    Fresno
    Spokane
    Palm Springs
    Reno
    San Jose, California
    Ottawa, Canada
    Eugene
    Wilmington
    Jackson, Mississippi

San Francisco
    Nashville
    Baltimore
    Columbus, Ohio
    Detroit
    Indianapolis
    Kansas City
    Madison
    Omaha
    Philadelphia
    Pittsburgh
    Raleigh/Durham
    San Antonio
    St. Louis
    Tampa
    Toronto, Canada
    Mammoth Lakes, California
    Fort Lauderdale
    New Orleans
    Fayetteville


Within the next few days all Canadian destinations will be suspended as the border is closing to all non-essential visitors, which mostly means truckers and cross-border workers such as Windsor-Detroit.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:57 pm

Will UA push through with EWR-CPT until the end of season as planned in 2 weeks time, or will it now wrap up a few days earlier?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:04 pm

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jayunited wrote:

This is the correct thread for this question another poster brought it up in the COVID-19 thread. Let me start off by saying this was not COVID-19 related.

UA104-16 was enroute SFO-DEL when the left engine PSROV illuminated, this condition prevents operations into icing conditions. with icing conditions being forecasted at SFO, LAX, DEN, ORD, IAD and EWR the only available hub was IAH. Hence the diversion into IAH for UA104-16.

As far as the return there are very strict rules in place covering theater acclimation. Those rules cover mandatory crew rest and how many hours a flight crew can fly once they become acclimated to new theater. As a result UA105-18 will operate over 15.5 hours late and fly DEL-EWR, change crews and customers will clear immigration at EWR, the flight will then continue as a domestic arrival EWR-SFO.

UA105-19 is canceled for crew rest rules as well, and an extra section will be flown on the March 20th. The flight crew of the extra section should be legal to fly DEL-SFO nonstop.


Thank you! For the detailed reply..not in a million years I would imagine this :D


Yes!! This person knows their FAR Part 117 rules.. on top of irrops. The diversion makes a lot more sense.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:43 am

I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:49 am

KVH68 wrote:
I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.


They announced a massive schedule reduction. I think it stands to reason that an equivalent amount of airplanes will be parked.

They are probably not permanent, but depending on how the situation goes, may become so.
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:09 am

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:02 pm

KVH68 wrote:
I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.

Frustrating situation.
UA is still operating more flights than necessary - wonder what the load factor is. Why so many flights operating transcon EWR-LAX/SFO with super low bookings? - consolidate
Taking a look at ORD-LGA tomorrow, hourly service most of the day is still offered and seat maps show about 13 seats sold per flight. I'm sure some of these flights have roundtrip crews and could be cancelled.
DL has moved 20+ Widebodies to MZJ.
I count 19 UA Widebodies that have been in UA hubs for 2 days plus and 2 are in ROW by the end of the day.
Will the PW 752s be parked soon?
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:14 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.

Frustrating situation.
UA is still operating more flights than necessary - wonder what the load factor is. Why so many flights operating transcon EWR-LAX/SFO with super low bookings? - consolidate
Taking a look at ORD-LGA tomorrow, hourly service most of the day is still offered and seat maps show about 13 seats sold per flight. I'm sure some of these flights have roundtrip crews and could be cancelled.
DL has moved 20+ Widebodies to MZJ.
I count 19 UA Widebodies that have been in UA hubs for 2 days plus and 2 are in ROW by the end of the day.
Will the PW 752s be parked soon?

One thing I've noticed for the past week or so is that CRJ2s actually manage a decent climb rate now, and everybody (RJs included) wants to fly up at FL410 because they're light enough to make it. The Northeast only saw a roughly 5% reduction early this week compared to traffic levels on the same days last year, yet it's clear from aircraft performance that they're generally operating with very light loads from what I can tell. We had expected to see more of a drop in traffic counts by now, particularly given the suspension of slot requirements at JFK, LGA, and DCA, but it just hasn't really happened yet. Maybe they're reluctant to draw down service given the importance of these markets, but it certainly seems wasteful to be flying around empty airplanes.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:36 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.

Frustrating situation.
UA is still operating more flights than necessary - wonder what the load factor is. Why so many flights operating transcon EWR-LAX/SFO with super low bookings? - consolidate
Taking a look at ORD-LGA tomorrow, hourly service most of the day is still offered and seat maps show about 13 seats sold per flight. I'm sure some of these flights have roundtrip crews and could be cancelled.
DL has moved 20+ Widebodies to MZJ.
I count 19 UA Widebodies that have been in UA hubs for 2 days plus and 2 are in ROW by the end of the day.
Will the PW 752s be parked soon?


Why are you frustrated?

Not everything needs to be made public but the company internally did announce the activation of the aircraft parking and logistic team. This team has been working behind the scenes for some time and it is not an easy task or a quick fix. The goal is to park the aircraft in an organized way in locations where our tech ops personnel can maintain the aircraft so they can be placed back into service quickly and efficiently when the time arises. Also as you know UA isn't the only airline looking for placing to park a significant portion of our fleet.

Lastly UA and United Cargo has been operating cargo sections as well within the U.S.. So even though the seat map may only show 30 or less people on a widebody does not mean that plane is empty. The belly of that aircraft could be full of much needed cargo that needs to get from one part of the country to another. The quickest way to move cargo is still via an airplane and a widebody can move a lot more cargo than a narrowbody then let the truckers take over and truck the commodities to their final destination from a hub. Don't take that statement in the wrong way UA will still park a huge number or widebodies and we already have a large number of widebodies on the ground out of service but don't just assume the domestic flight is completely empty when the belly could be full.

There is no need for frustration when UA has been up front and quite vocal with employees at least 60% of our domestic operations has been suspended for April and May and UA will only operate at total of 45 international flights during April and May. This is public knowledge which means a significant portion of our fleet mainline and express will be parked as a matter of fact a larger portion of our fleet is just sitting on the ground today. Just because UA hasn't publicly given any firm numbers on the total number of aircraft being parked does not mean we are going to continue to flying the entire fleet while AA, DL and other park large portions of their fleet. You should start seeing those surplus aircraft movements (aircraft being parked) in massive numbers by sometime next week. by the time the April schedule takes effect a sizable portion of the fleet will already be parked or the the process of being parked.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:13 pm

Jayunited, thanks.
I'm sure UA is working feverishly on the situation and the same issues can probably be found today at AA/DL/WN. I just hate to empty narrowbodies in addition to WBs that can carry the freight. By the way, I was only showing what's publicly available through a search of seat availability on UA.com (pull up a market for purchase and hit seat map).

I totally get the cargo movement and need for WB service, but triple redeyes SFO-EWR when 1 772A can easily carry all the freight and pax? The EWR-SFO return is 3 752s after 7pm, of which 2 could be cross cancelled with 2 EB 752 redeyes. Of course this depends on crews, but couldn't they deadhead on flights leaving an hour before or after their scheduled flight.

UA does have 19 WBs sitting at hubs for more than 2 days plus those in mod and parked in GUM and ROW. Interestingly enough, the 772s are sitting more than the 767s, maybe because 767s can handle the loads or because of China being mostly 777s. This will change soon as several aircraft are heading to hubs and may not depart. UA may have locations at hubs and not have to park units in desert locations. With some creative parking at DEN, several WB could be placed safely in at the hanger at this high altitude dry airport. Since IAH is not one of the 13 airports for international travel, Terminal D could probably be closed and UA might be able to negotiate use those gates and the huge hardstand to park aircraft. Understandable that if over 100 NBs are grounded, where do you place them? Boeing's grabbed a lot of space for MAXs.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:04 pm

calpsafltskeds:
perhaps a new tab in the fleet website would be helpful, showing acft stored at temp storage sites, like ROW.
Thanks
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:25 pm

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friendlyskies22 wrote:
calpsafltskeds:
perhaps a new tab in the fleet website would be helpful, showing acft stored at temp storage sites, like ROW.
Thanks

I did post a listing on the Aircraft in Mod/Maitn. link .
If we need a future spreadsheet I'll get it done.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:43 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
I did post a listing on the Aircraft in Mod/Maitn. link .
If we need a future spreadsheet I'll get it done.

We can create a new post for that in the update portion of the thread too. I can update the list more frequently than once a week if needed. Obviously this is a pretty fast-moving situation.

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