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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:31 pm

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alpine1989 wrote:


Safe to assume any mainline flight to ROW these days is for storage.

They do have a paint shop there, but I'm guessing it's probably storage. MZJ has almost as many Delta widebodies at ATL today.
 
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:03 pm

319:
N818UA sked to exit SFO 2486/18Mar, qwF config confirmed

772:
N220UA sked to enter ROW storage 2748/18Mar, with 219UA in GUM, this is last ITPE unit
N768UA sked to enter ROW storage 2750/19Mar, domestic unit
N76010 sked to enter GUM 2756/18Mar, pre-positioning for eventual Polaris Mod
N78013 sked to enter GUM 2757/18Mar, pre-positioning for eventual Polaris Mod

789:
N27957 exited VCV after only a couple days, sked to return to VCV for paint, but cancelled - not being painted
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:24 pm

jayunited wrote:

This is the correct thread for this question another poster brought it up in the COVID-19 thread. Let me start off by saying this was not COVID-19 related.

UA104-16 was enroute SFO-DEL when the left engine PSROV illuminated, this condition prevents operations into icing conditions. with icing conditions being forecasted at SFO, LAX, DEN, ORD, IAD and EWR the only available hub was IAH. Hence the diversion into IAH for UA104-16.

As far as the return there are very strict rules in place covering theater acclimation. Those rules cover mandatory crew rest and how many hours a flight crew can fly once they become acclimated to new theater. As a result UA105-18 will operate over 15.5 hours late and fly DEL-EWR, change crews and customers will clear immigration at EWR, the flight will then continue as a domestic arrival EWR-SFO.

UA105-19 is canceled for crew rest rules as well, and an extra section will be flown on the March 20th. The flight crew of the extra section should be legal to fly DEL-SFO nonstop.


Thank you! For the detailed reply..not in a million years I would imagine this :D
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:53 pm

OK, super fast Domestic mod completion of ferry out to storage?
772:
N221UA sked to exit HKG 2699/20Mar after just 19 days in mod for Domestic config. With lav/galley and all seats changed surprised and pleased if correct
N76010 sked to enter HKG 2698 20Mar for Polaris/PP
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:09 pm

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Today United announced a 60 percent schedule reduction in April--this includes a 42 percent reduction across the U.S. and Canada and an 85 percent decrease in international flights. Across the Atlantic, Pacific and Latin America, United will operate approximately 45 daily flights in April.


While United does not plan to suspend service to any single U.S. city now - with the exception of Mammoth Lakes, CA - the airline is closely monitoring demand as well as changes in state and local curfews and government restrictions across the U.S. and will adjust its schedule accordingly throughout the month.

Domestic route suspensions for April/May

Denver:
    Arcata/Eureka

Newark:
    Akron/Canton
    Hilton Head
    Honolulu
    Omaha
    Portland, Oregon
    Seattle
    Sacramento
    Knoxville
    Fayetteville
    Salt Lake City

Washington Dulles
    Grand Rapids
    Honolulu
    Portland, Oregon
    Sacramento

Houston
    Hartford
    Boise
    Grand Rapids
    Lexington
    Ontario, California
    Palm Springs
    San Jose, California
    Akron/Canton
    Reno
    Edmonton, Canada
    Vancouver, Canada

Los Angeles
    Austin
    Baltimore
    Kahului (Maui)
    Kona
    Lihue
    Madison
    San Antonio
    St. George
    Mammoth, California

Chicago
    Bismarck
    Kahului (Maui)
    Bozeman
    Fresno
    Spokane
    Palm Springs
    Reno
    San Jose, California
    Ottawa, Canada
    Eugene
    Wilmington
    Jackson, Mississippi

San Francisco
    Nashville
    Baltimore
    Columbus, Ohio
    Detroit
    Indianapolis
    Kansas City
    Madison
    Omaha
    Philadelphia
    Pittsburgh
    Raleigh/Durham
    San Antonio
    St. Louis
    Tampa
    Toronto, Canada
    Mammoth Lakes, California
    Fort Lauderdale
    New Orleans
    Fayetteville


Within the next few days all Canadian destinations will be suspended as the border is closing to all non-essential visitors, which mostly means truckers and cross-border workers such as Windsor-Detroit.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:57 pm

Will UA push through with EWR-CPT until the end of season as planned in 2 weeks time, or will it now wrap up a few days earlier?
 
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Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:04 pm

VTORD wrote:
jayunited wrote:

This is the correct thread for this question another poster brought it up in the COVID-19 thread. Let me start off by saying this was not COVID-19 related.

UA104-16 was enroute SFO-DEL when the left engine PSROV illuminated, this condition prevents operations into icing conditions. with icing conditions being forecasted at SFO, LAX, DEN, ORD, IAD and EWR the only available hub was IAH. Hence the diversion into IAH for UA104-16.

As far as the return there are very strict rules in place covering theater acclimation. Those rules cover mandatory crew rest and how many hours a flight crew can fly once they become acclimated to new theater. As a result UA105-18 will operate over 15.5 hours late and fly DEL-EWR, change crews and customers will clear immigration at EWR, the flight will then continue as a domestic arrival EWR-SFO.

UA105-19 is canceled for crew rest rules as well, and an extra section will be flown on the March 20th. The flight crew of the extra section should be legal to fly DEL-SFO nonstop.


Thank you! For the detailed reply..not in a million years I would imagine this :D


Yes!! This person knows their FAR Part 117 rules.. on top of irrops. The diversion makes a lot more sense.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:43 am

I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:49 am

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I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.


They announced a massive schedule reduction. I think it stands to reason that an equivalent amount of airplanes will be parked.

They are probably not permanent, but depending on how the situation goes, may become so.
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 8:09 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
320:


789:
N26966 entered VCV 2736/29Feb, touch up, but probably full EvoBlu repaint . Last paint 2016 at delivery
N26967 sked to exit VCV 2737/29Feb, touch up, but probably full EvoBlu repaint. Last paint 2016 at delivery


N26966 was in Sydney today and still in the old livery.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:02 pm

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I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.

Frustrating situation.
UA is still operating more flights than necessary - wonder what the load factor is. Why so many flights operating transcon EWR-LAX/SFO with super low bookings? - consolidate
Taking a look at ORD-LGA tomorrow, hourly service most of the day is still offered and seat maps show about 13 seats sold per flight. I'm sure some of these flights have roundtrip crews and could be cancelled.
DL has moved 20+ Widebodies to MZJ.
I count 19 UA Widebodies that have been in UA hubs for 2 days plus and 2 are in ROW by the end of the day.
Will the PW 752s be parked soon?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:14 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.

Frustrating situation.
UA is still operating more flights than necessary - wonder what the load factor is. Why so many flights operating transcon EWR-LAX/SFO with super low bookings? - consolidate
Taking a look at ORD-LGA tomorrow, hourly service most of the day is still offered and seat maps show about 13 seats sold per flight. I'm sure some of these flights have roundtrip crews and could be cancelled.
DL has moved 20+ Widebodies to MZJ.
I count 19 UA Widebodies that have been in UA hubs for 2 days plus and 2 are in ROW by the end of the day.
Will the PW 752s be parked soon?

One thing I've noticed for the past week or so is that CRJ2s actually manage a decent climb rate now, and everybody (RJs included) wants to fly up at FL410 because they're light enough to make it. The Northeast only saw a roughly 5% reduction early this week compared to traffic levels on the same days last year, yet it's clear from aircraft performance that they're generally operating with very light loads from what I can tell. We had expected to see more of a drop in traffic counts by now, particularly given the suspension of slot requirements at JFK, LGA, and DCA, but it just hasn't really happened yet. Maybe they're reluctant to draw down service given the importance of these markets, but it certainly seems wasteful to be flying around empty airplanes.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 2:36 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
KVH68 wrote:
I have heard that United plans to park 100 to 200 airplanes. Yet, the Company has not said anything publicly.

Frustrating situation.
UA is still operating more flights than necessary - wonder what the load factor is. Why so many flights operating transcon EWR-LAX/SFO with super low bookings? - consolidate
Taking a look at ORD-LGA tomorrow, hourly service most of the day is still offered and seat maps show about 13 seats sold per flight. I'm sure some of these flights have roundtrip crews and could be cancelled.
DL has moved 20+ Widebodies to MZJ.
I count 19 UA Widebodies that have been in UA hubs for 2 days plus and 2 are in ROW by the end of the day.
Will the PW 752s be parked soon?


Why are you frustrated?

Not everything needs to be made public but the company internally did announce the activation of the aircraft parking and logistic team. This team has been working behind the scenes for some time and it is not an easy task or a quick fix. The goal is to park the aircraft in an organized way in locations where our tech ops personnel can maintain the aircraft so they can be placed back into service quickly and efficiently when the time arises. Also as you know UA isn't the only airline looking for placing to park a significant portion of our fleet.

Lastly UA and United Cargo has been operating cargo sections as well within the U.S.. So even though the seat map may only show 30 or less people on a widebody does not mean that plane is empty. The belly of that aircraft could be full of much needed cargo that needs to get from one part of the country to another. The quickest way to move cargo is still via an airplane and a widebody can move a lot more cargo than a narrowbody then let the truckers take over and truck the commodities to their final destination from a hub. Don't take that statement in the wrong way UA will still park a huge number or widebodies and we already have a large number of widebodies on the ground out of service but don't just assume the domestic flight is completely empty when the belly could be full.

There is no need for frustration when UA has been up front and quite vocal with employees at least 60% of our domestic operations has been suspended for April and May and UA will only operate at total of 45 international flights during April and May. This is public knowledge which means a significant portion of our fleet mainline and express will be parked as a matter of fact a larger portion of our fleet is just sitting on the ground today. Just because UA hasn't publicly given any firm numbers on the total number of aircraft being parked does not mean we are going to continue to flying the entire fleet while AA, DL and other park large portions of their fleet. You should start seeing those surplus aircraft movements (aircraft being parked) in massive numbers by sometime next week. by the time the April schedule takes effect a sizable portion of the fleet will already be parked or the the process of being parked.
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:13 pm

Jayunited, thanks.
I'm sure UA is working feverishly on the situation and the same issues can probably be found today at AA/DL/WN. I just hate to empty narrowbodies in addition to WBs that can carry the freight. By the way, I was only showing what's publicly available through a search of seat availability on UA.com (pull up a market for purchase and hit seat map).

I totally get the cargo movement and need for WB service, but triple redeyes SFO-EWR when 1 772A can easily carry all the freight and pax? The EWR-SFO return is 3 752s after 7pm, of which 2 could be cross cancelled with 2 EB 752 redeyes. Of course this depends on crews, but couldn't they deadhead on flights leaving an hour before or after their scheduled flight.

UA does have 19 WBs sitting at hubs for more than 2 days plus those in mod and parked in GUM and ROW. Interestingly enough, the 772s are sitting more than the 767s, maybe because 767s can handle the loads or because of China being mostly 777s. This will change soon as several aircraft are heading to hubs and may not depart. UA may have locations at hubs and not have to park units in desert locations. With some creative parking at DEN, several WB could be placed safely in at the hanger at this high altitude dry airport. Since IAH is not one of the 13 airports for international travel, Terminal D could probably be closed and UA might be able to negotiate use those gates and the huge hardstand to park aircraft. Understandable that if over 100 NBs are grounded, where do you place them? Boeing's grabbed a lot of space for MAXs.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:04 pm

calpsafltskeds:
perhaps a new tab in the fleet website would be helpful, showing acft stored at temp storage sites, like ROW.
Thanks
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:25 pm

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calpsafltskeds:
perhaps a new tab in the fleet website would be helpful, showing acft stored at temp storage sites, like ROW.
Thanks

I did post a listing on the Aircraft in Mod/Maitn. link .
If we need a future spreadsheet I'll get it done.
 
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:43 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
I did post a listing on the Aircraft in Mod/Maitn. link .
If we need a future spreadsheet I'll get it done.

We can create a new post for that in the update portion of the thread too. I can update the list more frequently than once a week if needed. Obviously this is a pretty fast-moving situation.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:50 pm

OK atcsundevil, I send you that info as well. Thank you.

United Short Term Storage STS):
752: N595UA sked to enter ROW 3/20/20, STS
753: N77867 sked to enter ROW 3/20/20, STS
 
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:18 pm

4 757s parked in MCO, might have 20 757s parked soon at MCO.

Ex-SWAs and their approx ETA...

0755 737-76N 32679 N13755 1514 Sep-19 SWA/N7714B
0756 737-76N 32653 N16756 1566 Dec-19 SWA/N7703A
0757 737-76N 32661 N18757 1593 Mar-20 SWA/N7706A)
0758 737-76N 32667 N15758 1623 Mar-20 SWA/N7707C
0759 737-76N 32652 N17759 1627 Apr-20 SWA/N7708E
0760 737-76N 32654 N24760 1641 Apr-20 SWA/N7709A
0761 737-76N 32656 N12761 1671 Jun-20 SWA/N7710A
0762 737-76N 32657 N12762 1687 Jul-20 SWA/N7711N
0763 737-76N 32660 N12763 1710 Aug-20 SWA/N7712G
0764 737-76N 32662 N12764 1788 Jan-21 SWA/N7716A
0765 737-76N 32664 N13765 1804 Feb-21 SWA/N7717D
0766 737-76N 32665 N16766 1827 Mar-21 SWA/N7718B
0767 737-76N 32666 N28767 1833 Mar-21 SWA/N7719A
0768 737-76N 32668 N17768 1876 May-21 SWA/N7722B
0769 737-76N 32670 N13769 1898 Jun-21 SWA/N7723E
0770 737-76N 32671 N47770 1925 Jul-21 SWA/N7725A
0771 737-76N 32673 N13771 1943 Aug-21 SWA/N7727A
0772 737-76N 32675 N13772 1970 Sep-21 SWA/N7729A
0773 737-76N 32677 N13773 2002 Oct-21 SWA/N7731A
0774 737-76N 32678 N13774 2055 Jan-22 SWA/N7733B

MAXs

7251 737MAX-8 43931 N27251 8035 20
7252 737MAX-8 43932 N27252 8075 20
7253 737MAX-8 43930 N27253 8092 20
7254 737MAX-8 43436 N17254 8104 20
7255 737MAX-8 43440 TBD......8119 20
7256 737MAX-8 64447 TBD .....8126 20
7257 737MAX-8 43442 TBD .....8133 20
7258 737MAX-8 66593 TBD .....8139 20
7259 737MAX-8 43462 TBD .....8143 20
7260 737MAX-8 43458 TBD .....8151 20
7261 737MAX-8 43464 TBD .....8153 20
7262 737MAX-8 66594 TBD .....8163 20
7263 737MAX-8 66595 TBD .....8182 20
7264 737MAX-8 66596 TBD .....8259 20
7265 737MAX-8 TBD ...TBD .....8293 9/20
7266 737MAX-8 TBD ...TBD .....8304 9/20
7267 737MAX-8 TBD ...TBD .....8326 10/20

7501 737MAX-9 43430 N67501 6834 18
7502 737MAX-9 43431 N37502 6852 18
7503 737MAX-9 43434 N27503 6872 18
7504 737MAX-9 43435 N37504 6899 18
7505 737MAX-9 43433 N47505 6917 18
7506 737MAX-9 43432 N37506 6935 18
7507 737MAX-9 43437 N37507 7173 18
7508 737MAX-9 43439 N37508 7201 18
7509 737MAX-9 43443 N27509 7253 18
7510 737MAX-9 43445 N37510 7316 18
7511 737MAX-9 64493 N27511 7338 19
7512 737MAX-9 43449 N47512 7361 19
7513 737MAX-9 64494 N37513 7394 19
7514 737MAX-9 43450 N37514 7428 19
7515 737MAX-9 43452 N27515 7463 19
7516 737MAX-9 43454 N37516 7498 19
7517 737MAX-9 43456 N47517 7523 19
7518 737MAX-9 64495 N37518 7548 19
7519 737MAX-9 43459 N27519 7585 19
7520 737MAX-9 64498 N27520 7612 19
7521 737MAX-9 64497 N37521 7636 19
7522 737MAX-9 64496 N37522 7664 19
7524 737MAX-9 64501 N47524 7686 19
7525 737MAX-9 64500 N37525 7695 19
7526 737MAX-9 64499 N27526 7711 19
7527 737MAX-9 43463 N37527 7744 19
7528 737MAX-9 64502 N37528 7752 19
7529 737MAX-9 64503 N17529 7803 19
7530 737MAX-9 43465 N37530 7818 19
7531 737MAX-9 TBD ...TBD .....TBD TBD
7532 737MAX-9 43465 TBD .....7818 TBD

7751 737MAX-10 66122 N27751 7644 TBD
7752 737MAX-10 66123 N27752 7705 TBD
7753 737MAX-10 66118 N27753 7935 TBD
7754 737MAX-10 66115 TBD......8124 TBD
7755 737MAX-10 66116 TBD .....8163 TBD
7756 737MAX-10 66117 TBD .....8182 TBD
7757 737MAX-10 64450 TBD .....8204 TBD

787s 2020 - 20XX -

0975 787-9 66134 N29975 0960 20
0976 787-9 66135 N24976 0970 20
0977 787-9 66136 N29977 0974 20
0978 787-9 66137 N29978 0986 20
0980 787-9 66138 N24980 1018 20
0982 787-9 66139 N25982 1030 20
0983 787-9 66140 N23983 1038 20
0979 787-9 66141 N24979 1004 20
0981 787-9 66142 N29981 1022 20
0984 787-9 66143 N29984 1044 20
0985 787-9 66144 N29985 1048 20
0986 787-9 66145 N19986 1054 20
0987 787-9 66146 N28987 1058 20

1012 787-10 60145 N12012 0964 20
1013 787-10 40931 N13013 0996 20
1014 787-10 40934 N13014 1114 21
1015 787-10 TBD ...N17015 TBD TBD
1016 787-10 TBD ...N14016 TBD TBD
1017 787-10 TBD ...N17017 TBD TBD
1018 787-10 TBD ..N13018 TBD TBD
1019 787-10 TBD ..N14019 TBD TBD
1020 787-10 TBD ..N12020 TBD TBD
1021 787-10 TBD ..N12021 TBD TBD
1022 787-10 TBD ..N17022 TBD TBD
1023 787-10 TBD ..N14023 TBD TBD
1024 787-10 TBD ..N12024 TBD TBD
1025 787-10 TBD ..N12025 TBD TBD

4901 A320-232 2680 N4901U N/A 07 ....B-6275/CSN
4902 A320-232 2714 N1902U N/A 07 ....B-6278/CSN
4910 A320-232 1749 N2910U N/A 2002 ECLQL/Vueling
4911 A320-232 1914 N4911U N/A 2003 ECLRE/Vueling
4912 A320-232 1933 N4912U N/A 2003 ECLQZ/Vueling
4913 A320-232 2168 N1913U N/A 2004 ECLQN/Vueling
You are here.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:36 pm

OK, on the United Fleet Site, I've put together a Parked Aircraft Spreadsheet. (disregard the name, the link is correct)
Per usual, if anyone sees errors or has sgestions you can DM me or reply on thread.
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... ris-update
I'll try to keep it updated - it should get easier when more parked aircraft at ROW, MCO and other stations

There are tabs on bottom for WB and NB fleet
I redid the Polaris Spreadsheet to a 2 tab sheet with Polaris Update on #1 and Mod info on #2
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... d-schedule
 
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:54 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
OK, on the United Fleet Site, I've put together a Parked Aircraft Spreadsheet. (disregard the name, the link is correct)
Per usual, if anyone sees errors or has sgestions you can DM me or reply on thread.
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... ris-update
I'll try to keep it updated - it should get easier when more parked aircraft at ROW, MCO and other stations

There are tabs on bottom for WB and NB fleet
I redid the Polaris Spreadsheet to a 2 tab sheet with Polaris Update on #1 and Mod info on #2
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... d-schedule


Are you going to be able to track the parked RJs too?
 
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Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:06 pm

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Ex-SWAs and their approx ETA...


Is UA buying these ex-WN birds from the leasing company or are they going to be leasing them?
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:07 am

During our briefing, we were told United will park over 200 aircraft. 2/3 of those will be put into long term storage while 1/3 will be put on short term storage. I was told from a different source that United plans to store 150 aircraft at IAH. IAH will shut down two runways and taxiways to make room to park the planes.
 
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KVH68 wrote:
During our briefing, we were told United will park over 200 aircraft. 2/3 of those will be put into long term storage while 1/3 will be put on short term storage. I was told from a different source that United plans to store 150 aircraft at IAH. IAH will shut down two runways and taxiways to make room to park the planes.



what is the difference between the long term and short term parking?
i was thinking that UA could step up the re-paint since the planes are being parked, but at the same time it doesnt make sense
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:26 am

KVH68 wrote:
During our briefing, we were told United will park over 200 aircraft. 2/3 of those will be put into long term storage while 1/3 will be put on short term storage. I was told from a different source that United plans to store 150 aircraft at IAH. IAH will shut down two runways and taxiways to make room to park the planes.

I would guess 8L/26R and 33L/15R
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:39 am

Parking aircraft at IAH or DEN in the spring has a potential for severe weather, specifically large hail storms...and th spring is just beginning.
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:14 am

Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:33 am

jetmatt777 wrote:
Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1

Between demand dropping off a cliff and borders closing, it was a matter of time before US carriers ended up flying mostly domestic. Wishing everyone at UA the very best.


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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:46 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
CALTECH wrote:

Ex-SWAs and their approx ETA...


Is UA buying these ex-WN birds from the leasing company or are they going to be leasing them?


"United has signed an agreement to purchase 19 used Boeing 737-700s, with deliveries expected to begin in December."

https://onemileatatime.com/united-airli ... -used-737/
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:55 pm

So far for MCO Ramp.....changing ......

8 757s....................108, 112, 113, 119, 122, 127, 861, 5995
5 767s.....................6664, 6667, 6668, 6670, 6671
3 737s in BSMX .....439, 818, 827
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:01 pm

jetmatt777 wrote:
Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1


I read this last night and we knew this was coming with the new restrictions in place throughout Europe and with many Asian countries not wanting to see a reinfection from the US it was only a matter of time. Airlines like UA and even DL were optimistic they that they would have been able to maintain some long haul international routes are now finding out they are going to have to follow what AA announced an near suspension of all international travel. Hopefully the US and Europe can make significant progress in slowing down the rate of infection during April but I have a feeling we won't see an easing of these restrictions and an opening of some international routes until June. I think officials will want to see several weeks of declining infection rates or no new COVID-19 infections before they ease some international travel restrictions.

I feel bad for Americans who will be trapped outside the country and will have to work with the State Department to hopefully secure some type of military transport to get home. But at the same time the world has known about COVID-19 since mid January and most people have been saying for a few weeks avoid international travel. I know of a few UA employees who decided just this month to travel abroad who are now scrambling to get back home before UA suspends service.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:36 pm

jayunited wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1


I read this last night and we knew this was coming with the new restrictions in place throughout Europe and with many Asian countries not wanting to see a reinfection from the US it was only a matter of time. Airlines like UA and even DL were optimistic they that they would have been able to maintain some long haul international routes are now finding out they are going to have to follow what AA announced an near suspension of all international travel. Hopefully the US and Europe can make significant progress in slowing down the rate of infection during April but I have a feeling we won't see an easing of these restrictions and an opening of some international routes until June. I think officials will want to see several weeks of declining infection rates or no new COVID-19 infections before they ease some international travel restrictions.

I feel bad for Americans who will be trapped outside the country and will have to work with the State Department to hopefully secure some type of military transport to get home. But at the same time the world has known about COVID-19 since mid January and most people have been saying for a few weeks avoid international travel. I know of a few UA employees who decided just this month to travel abroad who are now scrambling to get back home before UA suspends service.


Do you know if UA right now is planning on operating its full international schedule in June and July?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:43 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
jayunited wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1


I read this last night and we knew this was coming with the new restrictions in place throughout Europe and with many Asian countries not wanting to see a reinfection from the US it was only a matter of time. Airlines like UA and even DL were optimistic they that they would have been able to maintain some long haul international routes are now finding out they are going to have to follow what AA announced an near suspension of all international travel. Hopefully the US and Europe can make significant progress in slowing down the rate of infection during April but I have a feeling we won't see an easing of these restrictions and an opening of some international routes until June. I think officials will want to see several weeks of declining infection rates or no new COVID-19 infections before they ease some international travel restrictions.

I feel bad for Americans who will be trapped outside the country and will have to work with the State Department to hopefully secure some type of military transport to get home. But at the same time the world has known about COVID-19 since mid January and most people have been saying for a few weeks avoid international travel. I know of a few UA employees who decided just this month to travel abroad who are now scrambling to get back home before UA suspends service.


Do you know if UA right now is planning on operating its full international schedule in June and July?

I don’t mean to be rude, but you have asked this question in multiple threads. Having the answer to these questions is akin to knowing when this virus is going subside. NOBODY knows what June/July will bring.


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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:49 pm

chepos wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
jayunited wrote:

I read this last night and we knew this was coming with the new restrictions in place throughout Europe and with many Asian countries not wanting to see a reinfection from the US it was only a matter of time. Airlines like UA and even DL were optimistic they that they would have been able to maintain some long haul international routes are now finding out they are going to have to follow what AA announced an near suspension of all international travel. Hopefully the US and Europe can make significant progress in slowing down the rate of infection during April but I have a feeling we won't see an easing of these restrictions and an opening of some international routes until June. I think officials will want to see several weeks of declining infection rates or no new COVID-19 infections before they ease some international travel restrictions.

I feel bad for Americans who will be trapped outside the country and will have to work with the State Department to hopefully secure some type of military transport to get home. But at the same time the world has known about COVID-19 since mid January and most people have been saying for a few weeks avoid international travel. I know of a few UA employees who decided just this month to travel abroad who are now scrambling to get back home before UA suspends service.


Do you know if UA right now is planning on operating its full international schedule in June and July?

I don’t mean to be rude, but you have asked this question in multiple threads. Having the answer to these questions is akin to knowing when this virus is going subside. NOBODY knows what June/July will bring.


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Maybe you are confusing me with someone else but I have yet to ask this question. Yes you say no one knows what June and July brings and I agree that’s why I asked the question by saying “as of right now.”
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:51 pm

Right now UA has their hands full trying to manage the next 4 weeks. They'll look at the summer schedule when they get to that point.

To loosely quote Apollo 13, you're asking about item number 167 on the checklist when we are on item 3.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:45 pm

This is so heartbreaking. I feel for the employees :(
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:58 pm

flybry wrote:
This is so heartbreaking. I feel for the employees :(


UA has been real good to me for 30 years and 1mm+ miles taking me to some great places and I wish all the employees the best. Working in the travel industry is a thankless job at times, and this has to be an awful time for everyone.

As with every major downturn, global issue, crisis, UA and the industry will come out with some better results when we're all back up and running. At a minimum, we'll all have an appreciation when we board that first flight post crisis in 2020 that allows us to land in that comforting familiar, exciting new or favorite location. I know I'm planning it now, hoping we can travel freely and worry free here in 2020 while not trying to dwell on the flight to LIH I'm not taking next week. I'm trying to think about those positive aspect that will result when we have that smile upon landing once again.

For UA, similar to others, the fleet is positioned with a good mix of old and new units that should allow them to jettison the ones that need be (PW757's, domestic 77A's, other a/c), but that's way down the road from now depending on how long, how severe and how sharp of a return for travel there will be. I'm excited to meet the new UA (and competitors) once again on the other side of this. Surely, there will be pent up demand for those travelers, both business and leisure alike. Until then, us a.netters will be rooting hard for the industry to come back as quickly as it went down so we can get back on the road.

Special kudos to the route planners who must be working a ton of hours.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:01 pm

Normal Updates:
789:
N13954 - Exited VCV on 18-Mar/2730, assumed with EvoBlue livery

772:
N227UA - Entered SFO on 6-Mar for maint

77W:
N2639U - Expected to exit XMN soon. Previous exit on 20-Mar was scrubbed

Parking Updates (The below aircraft are almost certainly temporarily parked based on the amount of time they have spent on the ground, reasons their future planned flights were canceled, etc. Other aircraft in their fleet types are no longer flying but am not seeing enough information to be convinced they are parked. I have reviewed all widebodies, have not looked at narrowbodies or RJs)

763:
N641UA - Parked at ORD
N644UA - Parked at ORD
N648UA - Parked at IAD
N664UA - Parked at MCO
N667UA - Parked at MCO
N670UA - Parked at MCO
N671UA - Parked at MCO
N672UA - Parked at IAD
N677UA - Scheduled to be parked at IND???
N685UA - Parked at ORD
N658UA - Parked at EWR

764:
N68061 - Parked at EWR

772:
N213UA - Parked at LAX
N774UA - Parked at GUM
N221UA - Now scheduled to enter ROW for storage on 22-Mar
N216UA - Parked at ORD
N782UA - Parked at SFO
N226UA - Parked at IAD

N78002 - Parked at ORD
N77012 - Parked at ORD
N78017 - Parked at EWR
N37018 - Parked at EWR

788:
N26902 - Parked at IAD
N27903 - Parked at DEN
N45905 - Parked at DEN
N27908 - Parked at EWR
N28912 - Parked at DEN
N30913 - Parked at IAD
N26910 - Currently parked at SFO, canceled trip to ROW on 21-Mar

789:
N26966 - Parked at LAX
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:37 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Do you know if UA right now is planning on operating its full international schedule in June and July?


Right now UA is focusing on April and May.

But I will go out on a limb and say NO there is no way UA will operate their full (pre-COVID-19) international schedule in June and July. We hope the worst of this crisis will be behind up by then and even if it is the recovery is going to take years. During February before the full blown outbreak in Europe and the outbreak here in the U.S. many airlines were thinking recovery would take months, now they are talking years. This is why you are seeing airlines not only park aircraft temporarily but also retiring some of their older less efficient aircraft. DL just a few days ago announce they will emerge a much smaller airline with a more efficient fleet. UA will be no exception, we will emerge from this smaller more efficient and nimble and that unfortunately means there are some older less efficient aircraft in our fleet that will be retired.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:20 pm

#4247 will be headed to ROW for storage in a few hours. UA2723 DENROW
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:31 pm

CALTECH wrote:
So far for MCO Ramp.....changing ......

8 757s....................108, 112, 113, 119, 122, 127, 861, 5995
5 767s.....................6664, 6667, 6668, 6670, 6671
3 737s in BSMX .....439, 818, 827


119 and 5995 are actually in Roswell

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:56 pm

Still waiting for the weekly OAG update, but if you look at April 1st dummy bookings you can see the April cuts loaded for the first couple weeks.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:31 pm

3291 also headed to ROW from DEN at 1230. This one is in new paint
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:17 pm

UAX Update:

CR5:
N612QX exited JAX, at STL awaiting modification
N624CA has been reregistered as N523GJ, exited MLB with interior mod, now at STL awaiting service entry
N153GJ exited AMA in EvoBlu livery, at STL
N524GJ entered revenue service with GoJet (30th CRJ-550 flying)

E75SC:
N625UX ferried BOI for transfer to Skywest
N624UX ferried BOI for transfer to Skywest

As of now, no Express Fleet have been parked other than known Maintenance visits.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:26 pm

N25201 and N72405 have also been sent to Roswell
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:37 pm

Wide bodies, 93 on ground, 97 still in service until 3/23 (others in mod or paint)
763 & 788 most grounded, 78X and 77W least grounded,

https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... ris-update

763 38 units, 9 flying, 26 on ground, 3 in mod
764 16 units, 9 flying, 7 on ground
788 12 units, 2 flying 9 on ground, 1 in mod
789 28 units, 17 flying, 9 on ground, 1 in mod, 1 in paint
78X 12 units, 11 flying, 1 on ground
772A/DomstcER, 23 units, 14 flying, 9 on ground
772PW 29 units, 14 flying, 12 on ground, 2 in mod, 1 in paint
772GE 22 units, 8 flying, 8 on ground, 4 in mod, 2 in paint
77W 22 units, 14 flying, 7 on ground, 1 just entered Induction at SFO

Total 202 units, 98 flying, 93 on ground, 11 in mod, 4 in paint.
On ground (may not be totally accurate, taken off spreadsheet and some colors close to each other)
SFO 11
LAX 4
DEN 4
ORD 18
IAH 7
IAD 14
EWR 8
MCO 6
GUM 1
ROW 5
ILN 1
IND 3
HKG 8
XMN 6
VCV 1
FTW 1
TLV 2
AMA 1
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:05 am

Looks like UA is reinstating a few international flights to get people home.

Flights continuing from now through May schedule

Newark/New York – Frankfurt (Flights 960/961)
Newark/New York – London (Flights 16/17)
Newark/New York – Tel Aviv (Flights 90/91)
Houston – Sao Paulo (Flights 62/63)
San Francisco – Tokyo-Narita (Flights 837/838)
San Francisco – Sydney (Flights 863/870)

Flights through 3/27 outbound
Newark/New York – Amsterdam (Flights 70/71)
Newark/New York – Munich (Flights 30/31)
Newark/New York – Brussels (Flights 999/998)
Washington-Dulles – London (Flights 918/919)
San Francisco – Frankfurt (Flights 58/59)
Newark/New York – Sao Paulo (Flights 149/148)

Flights through 3/29 outbound
San Francisco – Seoul (Flights 893/892)
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:12 am

6674 due to exit HKG to GUM on the 23rd. Due to park in ROW right away. Any idea what routing they are going to take to get the plane from GUM to ROW?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:41 am

kaitakfan wrote:
6674 due to exit HKG to GUM on the 23rd. Due to park in ROW right away. Any idea what routing they are going to take to get the plane from GUM to ROW?


If #2019’s route (currently UA2721) is any indicator, it may fly n/s. Not sure an empty 767 can do that though.
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:51 am

kordcj wrote:
kaitakfan wrote:
6674 due to exit HKG to GUM on the 23rd. Due to park in ROW right away. Any idea what routing they are going to take to get the plane from GUM to ROW?


If #2019’s route (currently UA2721) is any indicator, it may fly n/s. Not sure an empty 767 can do that though.


That’s gotta be getting pretty tight. Over 7000 miles.
We do HNL-HKG westbound around 5,900 miles when we ferry empty. Will be interesting to see what they plan to do. I would imagine it either goes GUM-SFO-ROW or GUM-HNL-ROW.

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