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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Thu Mar 19, 2020 10:50 pm

OK atcsundevil, I send you that info as well. Thank you.

United Short Term Storage STS):
752: N595UA sked to enter ROW 3/20/20, STS
753: N77867 sked to enter ROW 3/20/20, STS
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 2:18 pm

4 757s parked in MCO, might have 20 757s parked soon at MCO.

Ex-SWAs and their approx ETA...

0755 737-76N 32679 N13755 1514 Sep-19 SWA/N7714B
0756 737-76N 32653 N16756 1566 Dec-19 SWA/N7703A
0757 737-76N 32661 N18757 1593 Mar-20 SWA/N7706A)
0758 737-76N 32667 N15758 1623 Mar-20 SWA/N7707C
0759 737-76N 32652 N17759 1627 Apr-20 SWA/N7708E
0760 737-76N 32654 N24760 1641 Apr-20 SWA/N7709A
0761 737-76N 32656 N12761 1671 Jun-20 SWA/N7710A
0762 737-76N 32657 N12762 1687 Jul-20 SWA/N7711N
0763 737-76N 32660 N12763 1710 Aug-20 SWA/N7712G
0764 737-76N 32662 N12764 1788 Jan-21 SWA/N7716A
0765 737-76N 32664 N13765 1804 Feb-21 SWA/N7717D
0766 737-76N 32665 N16766 1827 Mar-21 SWA/N7718B
0767 737-76N 32666 N28767 1833 Mar-21 SWA/N7719A
0768 737-76N 32668 N17768 1876 May-21 SWA/N7722B
0769 737-76N 32670 N13769 1898 Jun-21 SWA/N7723E
0770 737-76N 32671 N47770 1925 Jul-21 SWA/N7725A
0771 737-76N 32673 N13771 1943 Aug-21 SWA/N7727A
0772 737-76N 32675 N13772 1970 Sep-21 SWA/N7729A
0773 737-76N 32677 N13773 2002 Oct-21 SWA/N7731A
0774 737-76N 32678 N13774 2055 Jan-22 SWA/N7733B

MAXs

7251 737MAX-8 43931 N27251 8035 20
7252 737MAX-8 43932 N27252 8075 20
7253 737MAX-8 43930 N27253 8092 20
7254 737MAX-8 43436 N17254 8104 20
7255 737MAX-8 43440 TBD......8119 20
7256 737MAX-8 64447 TBD .....8126 20
7257 737MAX-8 43442 TBD .....8133 20
7258 737MAX-8 66593 TBD .....8139 20
7259 737MAX-8 43462 TBD .....8143 20
7260 737MAX-8 43458 TBD .....8151 20
7261 737MAX-8 43464 TBD .....8153 20
7262 737MAX-8 66594 TBD .....8163 20
7263 737MAX-8 66595 TBD .....8182 20
7264 737MAX-8 66596 TBD .....8259 20
7265 737MAX-8 TBD ...TBD .....8293 9/20
7266 737MAX-8 TBD ...TBD .....8304 9/20
7267 737MAX-8 TBD ...TBD .....8326 10/20

7501 737MAX-9 43430 N67501 6834 18
7502 737MAX-9 43431 N37502 6852 18
7503 737MAX-9 43434 N27503 6872 18
7504 737MAX-9 43435 N37504 6899 18
7505 737MAX-9 43433 N47505 6917 18
7506 737MAX-9 43432 N37506 6935 18
7507 737MAX-9 43437 N37507 7173 18
7508 737MAX-9 43439 N37508 7201 18
7509 737MAX-9 43443 N27509 7253 18
7510 737MAX-9 43445 N37510 7316 18
7511 737MAX-9 64493 N27511 7338 19
7512 737MAX-9 43449 N47512 7361 19
7513 737MAX-9 64494 N37513 7394 19
7514 737MAX-9 43450 N37514 7428 19
7515 737MAX-9 43452 N27515 7463 19
7516 737MAX-9 43454 N37516 7498 19
7517 737MAX-9 43456 N47517 7523 19
7518 737MAX-9 64495 N37518 7548 19
7519 737MAX-9 43459 N27519 7585 19
7520 737MAX-9 64498 N27520 7612 19
7521 737MAX-9 64497 N37521 7636 19
7522 737MAX-9 64496 N37522 7664 19
7524 737MAX-9 64501 N47524 7686 19
7525 737MAX-9 64500 N37525 7695 19
7526 737MAX-9 64499 N27526 7711 19
7527 737MAX-9 43463 N37527 7744 19
7528 737MAX-9 64502 N37528 7752 19
7529 737MAX-9 64503 N17529 7803 19
7530 737MAX-9 43465 N37530 7818 19
7531 737MAX-9 TBD ...TBD .....TBD TBD
7532 737MAX-9 43465 TBD .....7818 TBD

7751 737MAX-10 66122 N27751 7644 TBD
7752 737MAX-10 66123 N27752 7705 TBD
7753 737MAX-10 66118 N27753 7935 TBD
7754 737MAX-10 66115 TBD......8124 TBD
7755 737MAX-10 66116 TBD .....8163 TBD
7756 737MAX-10 66117 TBD .....8182 TBD
7757 737MAX-10 64450 TBD .....8204 TBD

787s 2020 - 20XX -

0975 787-9 66134 N29975 0960 20
0976 787-9 66135 N24976 0970 20
0977 787-9 66136 N29977 0974 20
0978 787-9 66137 N29978 0986 20
0980 787-9 66138 N24980 1018 20
0982 787-9 66139 N25982 1030 20
0983 787-9 66140 N23983 1038 20
0979 787-9 66141 N24979 1004 20
0981 787-9 66142 N29981 1022 20
0984 787-9 66143 N29984 1044 20
0985 787-9 66144 N29985 1048 20
0986 787-9 66145 N19986 1054 20
0987 787-9 66146 N28987 1058 20

1012 787-10 60145 N12012 0964 20
1013 787-10 40931 N13013 0996 20
1014 787-10 40934 N13014 1114 21
1015 787-10 TBD ...N17015 TBD TBD
1016 787-10 TBD ...N14016 TBD TBD
1017 787-10 TBD ...N17017 TBD TBD
1018 787-10 TBD ..N13018 TBD TBD
1019 787-10 TBD ..N14019 TBD TBD
1020 787-10 TBD ..N12020 TBD TBD
1021 787-10 TBD ..N12021 TBD TBD
1022 787-10 TBD ..N17022 TBD TBD
1023 787-10 TBD ..N14023 TBD TBD
1024 787-10 TBD ..N12024 TBD TBD
1025 787-10 TBD ..N12025 TBD TBD

4901 A320-232 2680 N4901U N/A 07 ....B-6275/CSN
4902 A320-232 2714 N1902U N/A 07 ....B-6278/CSN
4910 A320-232 1749 N2910U N/A 2002 ECLQL/Vueling
4911 A320-232 1914 N4911U N/A 2003 ECLRE/Vueling
4912 A320-232 1933 N4912U N/A 2003 ECLQZ/Vueling
4913 A320-232 2168 N1913U N/A 2004 ECLQN/Vueling
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:36 pm

OK, on the United Fleet Site, I've put together a Parked Aircraft Spreadsheet. (disregard the name, the link is correct)
Per usual, if anyone sees errors or has sgestions you can DM me or reply on thread.
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... ris-update
I'll try to keep it updated - it should get easier when more parked aircraft at ROW, MCO and other stations

There are tabs on bottom for WB and NB fleet
I redid the Polaris Spreadsheet to a 2 tab sheet with Polaris Update on #1 and Mod info on #2
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... d-schedule
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:54 pm

calpsafltskeds wrote:
OK, on the United Fleet Site, I've put together a Parked Aircraft Spreadsheet. (disregard the name, the link is correct)
Per usual, if anyone sees errors or has sgestions you can DM me or reply on thread.
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... ris-update
I'll try to keep it updated - it should get easier when more parked aircraft at ROW, MCO and other stations

There are tabs on bottom for WB and NB fleet
I redid the Polaris Spreadsheet to a 2 tab sheet with Polaris Update on #1 and Mod info on #2
https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... d-schedule


Are you going to be able to track the parked RJs too?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:06 pm

CALTECH wrote:

Ex-SWAs and their approx ETA...


Is UA buying these ex-WN birds from the leasing company or are they going to be leasing them?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:07 am

During our briefing, we were told United will park over 200 aircraft. 2/3 of those will be put into long term storage while 1/3 will be put on short term storage. I was told from a different source that United plans to store 150 aircraft at IAH. IAH will shut down two runways and taxiways to make room to park the planes.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:37 am

KVH68 wrote:
During our briefing, we were told United will park over 200 aircraft. 2/3 of those will be put into long term storage while 1/3 will be put on short term storage. I was told from a different source that United plans to store 150 aircraft at IAH. IAH will shut down two runways and taxiways to make room to park the planes.



what is the difference between the long term and short term parking?
i was thinking that UA could step up the re-paint since the planes are being parked, but at the same time it doesnt make sense
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:26 am

KVH68 wrote:
During our briefing, we were told United will park over 200 aircraft. 2/3 of those will be put into long term storage while 1/3 will be put on short term storage. I was told from a different source that United plans to store 150 aircraft at IAH. IAH will shut down two runways and taxiways to make room to park the planes.

I would guess 8L/26R and 33L/15R
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:39 am

Parking aircraft at IAH or DEN in the spring has a potential for severe weather, specifically large hail storms...and th spring is just beginning.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:14 am

Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:33 am

jetmatt777 wrote:
Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1

Between demand dropping off a cliff and borders closing, it was a matter of time before US carriers ended up flying mostly domestic. Wishing everyone at UA the very best.


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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:46 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
CALTECH wrote:

Ex-SWAs and their approx ETA...


Is UA buying these ex-WN birds from the leasing company or are they going to be leasing them?


"United has signed an agreement to purchase 19 used Boeing 737-700s, with deliveries expected to begin in December."

https://onemileatatime.com/united-airli ... -used-737/
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:55 pm

So far for MCO Ramp.....changing ......

8 757s....................108, 112, 113, 119, 122, 127, 861, 5995
5 767s.....................6664, 6667, 6668, 6670, 6671
3 737s in BSMX .....439, 818, 827
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:01 pm

jetmatt777 wrote:
Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1


I read this last night and we knew this was coming with the new restrictions in place throughout Europe and with many Asian countries not wanting to see a reinfection from the US it was only a matter of time. Airlines like UA and even DL were optimistic they that they would have been able to maintain some long haul international routes are now finding out they are going to have to follow what AA announced an near suspension of all international travel. Hopefully the US and Europe can make significant progress in slowing down the rate of infection during April but I have a feeling we won't see an easing of these restrictions and an opening of some international routes until June. I think officials will want to see several weeks of declining infection rates or no new COVID-19 infections before they ease some international travel restrictions.

I feel bad for Americans who will be trapped outside the country and will have to work with the State Department to hopefully secure some type of military transport to get home. But at the same time the world has known about COVID-19 since mid January and most people have been saying for a few weeks avoid international travel. I know of a few UA employees who decided just this month to travel abroad who are now scrambling to get back home before UA suspends service.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:36 pm

jayunited wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1


I read this last night and we knew this was coming with the new restrictions in place throughout Europe and with many Asian countries not wanting to see a reinfection from the US it was only a matter of time. Airlines like UA and even DL were optimistic they that they would have been able to maintain some long haul international routes are now finding out they are going to have to follow what AA announced an near suspension of all international travel. Hopefully the US and Europe can make significant progress in slowing down the rate of infection during April but I have a feeling we won't see an easing of these restrictions and an opening of some international routes until June. I think officials will want to see several weeks of declining infection rates or no new COVID-19 infections before they ease some international travel restrictions.

I feel bad for Americans who will be trapped outside the country and will have to work with the State Department to hopefully secure some type of military transport to get home. But at the same time the world has known about COVID-19 since mid January and most people have been saying for a few weeks avoid international travel. I know of a few UA employees who decided just this month to travel abroad who are now scrambling to get back home before UA suspends service.


Do you know if UA right now is planning on operating its full international schedule in June and July?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:43 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
jayunited wrote:
jetmatt777 wrote:
Due to government mandates or restrictions in place prohibiting travel, we are reducing our international schedule by 95% for April. The revised international schedule will be viewable on united.com on Sunday, March 22:

Atlantic
United is drawing down its remaining trans-Atlantic operation. The final westbound departures will take place on March 25, with the exception of its Cape Town-New York/Newark service which will operate as previously scheduled with the last flight departing Cape Town on March 28.

Pacific
United will reduce its remaining trans-Pacific operation starting March 22, with final eastbound departures on March 25, with the exception of service between San Francisco and Tahiti and San Francisco and Sydney which will have final returns to San Francisco on March 28.
United will maintain some Guam flights as well as a portion of its Island Hopper service.

Latin America
United will reduce its Mexico operation over the next five days. After March 24, it will only maintain a small number of daytime flights to certain destinations in Mexico.
United will draw down its remaining Central and South America operations. The last southbound departures will take place March 24.

Canada
United will temporarily suspend all flying to Canada effective April 1


I read this last night and we knew this was coming with the new restrictions in place throughout Europe and with many Asian countries not wanting to see a reinfection from the US it was only a matter of time. Airlines like UA and even DL were optimistic they that they would have been able to maintain some long haul international routes are now finding out they are going to have to follow what AA announced an near suspension of all international travel. Hopefully the US and Europe can make significant progress in slowing down the rate of infection during April but I have a feeling we won't see an easing of these restrictions and an opening of some international routes until June. I think officials will want to see several weeks of declining infection rates or no new COVID-19 infections before they ease some international travel restrictions.

I feel bad for Americans who will be trapped outside the country and will have to work with the State Department to hopefully secure some type of military transport to get home. But at the same time the world has known about COVID-19 since mid January and most people have been saying for a few weeks avoid international travel. I know of a few UA employees who decided just this month to travel abroad who are now scrambling to get back home before UA suspends service.


Do you know if UA right now is planning on operating its full international schedule in June and July?

I don’t mean to be rude, but you have asked this question in multiple threads. Having the answer to these questions is akin to knowing when this virus is going subside. NOBODY knows what June/July will bring.


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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:49 pm

chepos wrote:
Nicknuzzii wrote:
jayunited wrote:

I read this last night and we knew this was coming with the new restrictions in place throughout Europe and with many Asian countries not wanting to see a reinfection from the US it was only a matter of time. Airlines like UA and even DL were optimistic they that they would have been able to maintain some long haul international routes are now finding out they are going to have to follow what AA announced an near suspension of all international travel. Hopefully the US and Europe can make significant progress in slowing down the rate of infection during April but I have a feeling we won't see an easing of these restrictions and an opening of some international routes until June. I think officials will want to see several weeks of declining infection rates or no new COVID-19 infections before they ease some international travel restrictions.

I feel bad for Americans who will be trapped outside the country and will have to work with the State Department to hopefully secure some type of military transport to get home. But at the same time the world has known about COVID-19 since mid January and most people have been saying for a few weeks avoid international travel. I know of a few UA employees who decided just this month to travel abroad who are now scrambling to get back home before UA suspends service.


Do you know if UA right now is planning on operating its full international schedule in June and July?

I don’t mean to be rude, but you have asked this question in multiple threads. Having the answer to these questions is akin to knowing when this virus is going subside. NOBODY knows what June/July will bring.


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Maybe you are confusing me with someone else but I have yet to ask this question. Yes you say no one knows what June and July brings and I agree that’s why I asked the question by saying “as of right now.”
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:51 pm

Right now UA has their hands full trying to manage the next 4 weeks. They'll look at the summer schedule when they get to that point.

To loosely quote Apollo 13, you're asking about item number 167 on the checklist when we are on item 3.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:45 pm

This is so heartbreaking. I feel for the employees :(
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:58 pm

flybry wrote:
This is so heartbreaking. I feel for the employees :(


UA has been real good to me for 30 years and 1mm+ miles taking me to some great places and I wish all the employees the best. Working in the travel industry is a thankless job at times, and this has to be an awful time for everyone.

As with every major downturn, global issue, crisis, UA and the industry will come out with some better results when we're all back up and running. At a minimum, we'll all have an appreciation when we board that first flight post crisis in 2020 that allows us to land in that comforting familiar, exciting new or favorite location. I know I'm planning it now, hoping we can travel freely and worry free here in 2020 while not trying to dwell on the flight to LIH I'm not taking next week. I'm trying to think about those positive aspect that will result when we have that smile upon landing once again.

For UA, similar to others, the fleet is positioned with a good mix of old and new units that should allow them to jettison the ones that need be (PW757's, domestic 77A's, other a/c), but that's way down the road from now depending on how long, how severe and how sharp of a return for travel there will be. I'm excited to meet the new UA (and competitors) once again on the other side of this. Surely, there will be pent up demand for those travelers, both business and leisure alike. Until then, us a.netters will be rooting hard for the industry to come back as quickly as it went down so we can get back on the road.

Special kudos to the route planners who must be working a ton of hours.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:01 pm

Normal Updates:
789:
N13954 - Exited VCV on 18-Mar/2730, assumed with EvoBlue livery

772:
N227UA - Entered SFO on 6-Mar for maint

77W:
N2639U - Expected to exit XMN soon. Previous exit on 20-Mar was scrubbed

Parking Updates (The below aircraft are almost certainly temporarily parked based on the amount of time they have spent on the ground, reasons their future planned flights were canceled, etc. Other aircraft in their fleet types are no longer flying but am not seeing enough information to be convinced they are parked. I have reviewed all widebodies, have not looked at narrowbodies or RJs)

763:
N641UA - Parked at ORD
N644UA - Parked at ORD
N648UA - Parked at IAD
N664UA - Parked at MCO
N667UA - Parked at MCO
N670UA - Parked at MCO
N671UA - Parked at MCO
N672UA - Parked at IAD
N677UA - Scheduled to be parked at IND???
N685UA - Parked at ORD
N658UA - Parked at EWR

764:
N68061 - Parked at EWR

772:
N213UA - Parked at LAX
N774UA - Parked at GUM
N221UA - Now scheduled to enter ROW for storage on 22-Mar
N216UA - Parked at ORD
N782UA - Parked at SFO
N226UA - Parked at IAD

N78002 - Parked at ORD
N77012 - Parked at ORD
N78017 - Parked at EWR
N37018 - Parked at EWR

788:
N26902 - Parked at IAD
N27903 - Parked at DEN
N45905 - Parked at DEN
N27908 - Parked at EWR
N28912 - Parked at DEN
N30913 - Parked at IAD
N26910 - Currently parked at SFO, canceled trip to ROW on 21-Mar

789:
N26966 - Parked at LAX
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 3:37 pm

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Do you know if UA right now is planning on operating its full international schedule in June and July?


Right now UA is focusing on April and May.

But I will go out on a limb and say NO there is no way UA will operate their full (pre-COVID-19) international schedule in June and July. We hope the worst of this crisis will be behind up by then and even if it is the recovery is going to take years. During February before the full blown outbreak in Europe and the outbreak here in the U.S. many airlines were thinking recovery would take months, now they are talking years. This is why you are seeing airlines not only park aircraft temporarily but also retiring some of their older less efficient aircraft. DL just a few days ago announce they will emerge a much smaller airline with a more efficient fleet. UA will be no exception, we will emerge from this smaller more efficient and nimble and that unfortunately means there are some older less efficient aircraft in our fleet that will be retired.
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:20 pm

#4247 will be headed to ROW for storage in a few hours. UA2723 DENROW
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:31 pm

CALTECH wrote:
So far for MCO Ramp.....changing ......

8 757s....................108, 112, 113, 119, 122, 127, 861, 5995
5 767s.....................6664, 6667, 6668, 6670, 6671
3 737s in BSMX .....439, 818, 827


119 and 5995 are actually in Roswell

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:56 pm

Still waiting for the weekly OAG update, but if you look at April 1st dummy bookings you can see the April cuts loaded for the first couple weeks.
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 5:31 pm

3291 also headed to ROW from DEN at 1230. This one is in new paint
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:17 pm

UAX Update:

CR5:
N612QX exited JAX, at STL awaiting modification
N624CA has been reregistered as N523GJ, exited MLB with interior mod, now at STL awaiting service entry
N153GJ exited AMA in EvoBlu livery, at STL
N524GJ entered revenue service with GoJet (30th CRJ-550 flying)

E75SC:
N625UX ferried BOI for transfer to Skywest
N624UX ferried BOI for transfer to Skywest

As of now, no Express Fleet have been parked other than known Maintenance visits.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:26 pm

N25201 and N72405 have also been sent to Roswell
 
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Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:37 pm

Wide bodies, 93 on ground, 97 still in service until 3/23 (others in mod or paint)
763 & 788 most grounded, 78X and 77W least grounded,

https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfle ... ris-update

763 38 units, 9 flying, 26 on ground, 3 in mod
764 16 units, 9 flying, 7 on ground
788 12 units, 2 flying 9 on ground, 1 in mod
789 28 units, 17 flying, 9 on ground, 1 in mod, 1 in paint
78X 12 units, 11 flying, 1 on ground
772A/DomstcER, 23 units, 14 flying, 9 on ground
772PW 29 units, 14 flying, 12 on ground, 2 in mod, 1 in paint
772GE 22 units, 8 flying, 8 on ground, 4 in mod, 2 in paint
77W 22 units, 14 flying, 7 on ground, 1 just entered Induction at SFO

Total 202 units, 98 flying, 93 on ground, 11 in mod, 4 in paint.
On ground (may not be totally accurate, taken off spreadsheet and some colors close to each other)
SFO 11
LAX 4
DEN 4
ORD 18
IAH 7
IAD 14
EWR 8
MCO 6
GUM 1
ROW 5
ILN 1
IND 3
HKG 8
XMN 6
VCV 1
FTW 1
TLV 2
AMA 1
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:05 am

Looks like UA is reinstating a few international flights to get people home.

Flights continuing from now through May schedule

Newark/New York – Frankfurt (Flights 960/961)
Newark/New York – London (Flights 16/17)
Newark/New York – Tel Aviv (Flights 90/91)
Houston – Sao Paulo (Flights 62/63)
San Francisco – Tokyo-Narita (Flights 837/838)
San Francisco – Sydney (Flights 863/870)

Flights through 3/27 outbound
Newark/New York – Amsterdam (Flights 70/71)
Newark/New York – Munich (Flights 30/31)
Newark/New York – Brussels (Flights 999/998)
Washington-Dulles – London (Flights 918/919)
San Francisco – Frankfurt (Flights 58/59)
Newark/New York – Sao Paulo (Flights 149/148)

Flights through 3/29 outbound
San Francisco – Seoul (Flights 893/892)
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:12 am

6674 due to exit HKG to GUM on the 23rd. Due to park in ROW right away. Any idea what routing they are going to take to get the plane from GUM to ROW?
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:41 am

kaitakfan wrote:
6674 due to exit HKG to GUM on the 23rd. Due to park in ROW right away. Any idea what routing they are going to take to get the plane from GUM to ROW?


If #2019’s route (currently UA2721) is any indicator, it may fly n/s. Not sure an empty 767 can do that though.
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:51 am

kordcj wrote:
kaitakfan wrote:
6674 due to exit HKG to GUM on the 23rd. Due to park in ROW right away. Any idea what routing they are going to take to get the plane from GUM to ROW?


If #2019’s route (currently UA2721) is any indicator, it may fly n/s. Not sure an empty 767 can do that though.


That’s gotta be getting pretty tight. Over 7000 miles.
We do HNL-HKG westbound around 5,900 miles when we ferry empty. Will be interesting to see what they plan to do. I would imagine it either goes GUM-SFO-ROW or GUM-HNL-ROW.
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 5:59 am

kaitakfan wrote:
6674 due to exit HKG to GUM on the 23rd. Due to park in ROW right away. Any idea what routing they are going to take to get the plane from GUM to ROW?


That's bad news as the aircraft isn't getting Polaris. Either a cash situation or UA believes it may not need so many 46J seated 763s after restart.
Obviously it will receive crew from 772 N78013.

772:
N78013 sked to enter HKG 2688/23Mar for Polaris/PP

77W:
N2352U delivered today 2712/21Mar PAE-SFO for Induction.

Trying to keep up with grounded aircraft. Too many to list here.  Look at spreadsheet.
https://sites.google.com/site/united...polaris-update (file name is misleading, it's on parked aircraft)
 
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Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:43 am

United commenced all cargo B77W service EWR-AMS:

- 21 March 2020: UA 2814 20.56 EWR - 07.54 AMS Cargo BOEING 777-300ER United Airlines N2747U
- 21 March 2020: UA 70 19.35 EWR - 06.46 AMS BOEING B-767-400 United Airlines N76064

So on top of the B764 still operating:

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ua2814
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:51 pm

United1 wrote:
Looks like UA is reinstating a few international flights to get people home.

Flights continuing from now through May schedule

Newark/New York – Frankfurt (Flights 960/961)
Newark/New York – London (Flights 16/17)
Newark/New York – Tel Aviv (Flights 90/91)
Houston – Sao Paulo (Flights 62/63)
San Francisco – Tokyo-Narita (Flights 837/838)
San Francisco – Sydney (Flights 863/870)

Flights through 3/27 outbound
Newark/New York – Amsterdam (Flights 70/71)
Newark/New York – Munich (Flights 30/31)
Newark/New York – Brussels (Flights 999/998)
Washington-Dulles – London (Flights 918/919)
San Francisco – Frankfurt (Flights 58/59)
Newark/New York – Sao Paulo (Flights 149/148)

Flights through 3/29 outbound
San Francisco – Seoul (Flights 893/892)


Wow this situation is fo fluid. I signed into airliners first and checked this thread and saw your post and it been around 14 hours since I last checked my email after all it is the weekend. So the last update I saw was UA suspending 95% of international flying. Then you post this update and at first I'm like you are wrong but then I sign into my email and there is an email from yesterday highlighting the schedule change to keep some international service going to help displaced people get home.

This is very encouraging news because there are a lot of American's essentially trapped in other countries there is no way the State Department can get them all home using military charters, but if they can at least get to LHR, FRA, TLV, GRU, NRT or SYD they at least have a chance of getting a flight back to the U.S. Also the international destinations that UA will continue to serve until May are some of our top cargo destinations both from the U.S. and goods coming into the U.S..
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 2:51 pm

N665UA and N677UA stored IND

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Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:15 pm

One week ago today I was on a UA 78J, from LAX to EWR in the “Polaris Seat” - this might be a silly notion, but the cabin was full yet I felt so much better about my odds of infection just given the privacy and walls around me. Plus, I had my own Clorox disinfectant wipes to wipe down all the primary places passengers often touch, also!
Only a virologist would be able to truly access the risk of an airborne virus being minimized in any such type of seating. “IF” such a seat was factually proven to greatly minimize exposure (social distancing) PERHAPS airlines could fill a good portion of those seats upfront with discounted fares?

I would “almost” feel comfortable enough now to fly in a real Polars seat nonstop from NYC to (say) maybe Hawaii (HNL) if UA used a 78J or a refitted 777 or 763 on that nonstop vs the 764.
It’s an interesting question for the Q&A section of the CDC website. It “could” perhaps be a little more revenue for United and others? (Or am I being irrational?)
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:18 pm

kaitakfan wrote:
kordcj wrote:
kaitakfan wrote:
6674 due to exit HKG to GUM on the 23rd. Due to park in ROW right away. Any idea what routing they are going to take to get the plane from GUM to ROW?


If #2019’s route (currently UA2721) is any indicator, it may fly n/s. Not sure an empty 767 can do that though.


That’s gotta be getting pretty tight. Over 7000 miles.
We do HNL-HKG westbound around 5,900 miles when we ferry empty. Will be interesting to see what they plan to do. I would imagine it either goes GUM-SFO-ROW or GUM-HNL-ROW.


UAL2721 N219UA nonstop PGUM-KROW
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2721

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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:49 pm

Hawaii will have to wait until the governor pulls back the ban on entry.

763 N675UA also showing in IND

And some positive news
772:
N69020 exited VCV 2718/19Mar in EvoBlu
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:05 pm

xxcr wrote:
adamblang wrote:
GmoneyCO wrote:

The 787-9 could make the flight, however would likely be weight restricted. LAX/SIN was canceled due to financial reasons partially driven by weight restrictions and it was only 70 mi longer than SFO/BLR, granted polar routes typically have fewer challenges with winds.

While I would love to see this route launch personally, the economics of it may be challenging given the likely weight restrictions and historically competitive pricing from Emirates.

Going from 48J/88Y+/116Y to 48J/21W/39Y+/149Y might also change the economics of the route. If United's got revenue from 21 W seats, maybe that'll make up for a couple blocked Y seats? (I don't have the data so this is wild conjecture – just pointing out between LAX-SIN ending and now the facts on the ground have changed.)


Im sure UA will add SFO-BOM in the future, especially with the rumors that are floating around about AI shutting down in the future due to financial issues.



Although I would love to see UA fly more to India, I doubt that AI will shut down in the near future as the Indian Government will continue to bail them out. AI has been in a poor financial state since the 90s, and has attempted to sell the airline 3 times over the last 20 years. However, the government continues to want some control over AI, making any deal unappealing to potential buyers.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:38 pm

It might be that UA will not convert the last 7 763s. 4 were to be High J and 3 30J configurations.
N674UA, a 2000 build was recently painted with EvoBlu livery. Exiting HKG prior to Polaris installation (arrived a week ago) is probably a good indicator that UA may bail on the remaining 7 763s w/o Polaris. Hopefully N674UA will be modified soon.

So, will UA
1.) expedite 772 N77014 to HKG for Polaris?
2.) expedite 788 mod lines, understanding XMN has been doing 787 mods, not HKG?
3.) Jump the 764 mods earlier at HKG?
4.) Wait to convert aircraft due cash position?
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:59 pm

As of 5pm today, DEN has approximately 43 aircraft parked. The airport has plans to store up to 300 aircraft on taxiways and one runway with minimal impact on operations, UA has not yet said how many aircraft will be parked at DEN however. Currently the aircraft are parked on 3 deice pads, RON pads and at the hangar. I do wonder if WN may also want to park aircraft at DEN as most of their main airports do not have a lot of extra space.

Picture of the UA hangar where there are normally 1-2 aircraft at a time.
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:18 am

Are you talking only mainline or Express as well and is the 43 UA only? I assume that includes aircraft on gates.
Looking at DEN, there are 4 788s on the ground and all the rest are narrowbodies that aren't departing today.

Interesting that about 10 of the 16 or 17 narrowbodies have upcoming flights scheduled after about 2 days on the ground. I only see 6 319/320s that do not have a flight scheduled. FR24 only allows me to go back a week without upgrading from Silver.

Maybe more cancellations are on the way or UA wants to keep aircraft moving every couple of days at this point.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:21 am

Anything that isn't headed to the desert (for right now) will be rotated around the schedule to spread around hours to keep maintenance items low. (Cycles and hours). I'm sure as the schedule continues to deteriorate this will change but that is what we have heard right now.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 12:31 am

jetmatt777 wrote:
Anything that isn't headed to the desert (for right now) will be rotated around the schedule to spread around hours to keep maintenance items low. (Cycles and hours). I'm sure as the schedule continues to deteriorate this will change but that is what we have heard right now.


That sounds like a good plan. When you fly the planes on a rotation, you don't have to use resources to put them into short-term storage. Besides, planes like to fly. When they sit on the ground too long, the seals relax and they develop hydraulic and fuel leaks.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 2:12 am

calpsafltskeds wrote:
Are you talking only mainline or Express as well and is the 43 UA only? I assume that includes aircraft on gates.
Looking at DEN, there are 4 788s on the ground and all the rest are narrowbodies that aren't departing today.

Interesting that about 10 of the 16 or 17 narrowbodies have upcoming flights scheduled after about 2 days on the ground. I only see 6 319/320s that do not have a flight scheduled. FR24 only allows me to go back a week without upgrading from Silver.

Maybe more cancellations are on the way or UA wants to keep aircraft moving every couple of days at this point.


Sorry, that number included UAX as well, UA is keeping most of their won aircraft near the hangar currently and the express aircraft are parked on the de ice pads.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:14 am

Right now FR24 shows 14 UAX units on the ground in DEN and all but one have scheduled flights tomorrow or Tuesday.
 
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Re: United Fleet, Network, & Livery Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:09 pm

Over the weekend UA started using around 4-5 widebodies (mostly 77Ws and 789s) as freighters. This week those planes will move cargo between EWR/ORD/IAH - FRA/LHR/AMS. Its looks at though United Cargo has secured contracts with several companies both here in the US and in Europe to move cargo. Also the United States Postal Service has contracted out one of our 789s to move mail between the US and FRA. The US still has a lot of troops all thoughout Europe and the Middle East who are depending on the postal service to continue to deliver the mail.

I'm not sure if UA will use more wideobdies as freighters, they did sent out an email late last week stating they would only run freighters if they could do it profitability.
 
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:36 pm

jayunited wrote:
Over the weekend UA started using around 4-5 widebodies (mostly 77Ws and 789s) as freighters. This week those planes will move cargo between EWR/ORD/IAH - FRA/LHR/AMS.


I would think that Hawaii is heavily-dependent on air freight as well. Fruit exports are time-sensitive for local Hawaiian companies and I'm guessing that they rely on the mainland for a lot of essential products that are not produced locally. UA would probably be in the best position to meet those needs as well.

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