VC10er wrote:Judge1310 wrote:VC10er wrote:
I’ve taken my 3rd flight on UA from EWR to MIA. Currently there is just one nonstop a day. (The second option has a stop in IAH, and costs much more than the nonstop)
I took these 3 flights over the past 3 weeks, each time UA has sent me an email saying “your flight is about 70% full, if you wish to rebook on another flight, no change fee will apply” - each flight I was in paid First, and traveling with a friend as my seat mate. Yesterday, the 738 was near totally full (if not 100% full). I WANT UNITED TO MAKE MONEY, but it does seem like this one nonstop should upguage to a 752 or add a second (maybe E175?) flight? I am sure HQ is watching this closely, but what would be the better move? A larger single nonstop or a second frequency? (Depending on the day this nonstop has had a 739, 738, A320 or 73G)
The flight to MIA was most certainly not full in Y class (109/150 = 72.7% full), thus an upgauge wouldn't have been necessary. Trust when we say that Revenue Management, Airport Ops, Aircraft Routing, Crew Desk, and many other teams are watching all flights approaching 70% quite closely and will either upgauge or provide another closely departing flight when necessary. As an example, what used to be (for a short period) only 738s/9s plying between SFO-EWR have all now been upgauged to either 75/6/8 equipment.
I am sure you are correct. The reason I “thought” the flight was “full” was due to the FA making several announcements as people were boarding “we have a very full flight today....” then the usual bit about bins and quickly taking your seat. I was in F, I never got up during the fight so I didn’t look back behind the curtain.
As I said, I’m certain UA is keeping a very close eye on every flight, but I was curious if UA would first upguage (IF OR WHEN) this one nonstop gets to the point where more seats are needed, or add a frequency? I just was curious what would be the wiser choice. (I admit I know nothing when it comes to these decisions!)
Very valid question! (and thanks to one of the mods for restoring this relevant line of topic)
Let's use the case of your flight to MIA -- I believe it was on a 738. In my experience I've seen frequencies added on routes between hubs and upgauges on spoke routes. Of course there exist many instances where that isn't the case but, if you think about it, adding a frequency between two hubs (e.g. SFO-IAH) allows the added equipment to be deployed somewhere else from the new hub. If we're talking about EWR-MIA, well the question then is, "Does demand on the flipside to justify extra equipment down there for the return?" Most likely not. In that case an upgauge would be more appropriate.