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alasizon
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:38 pm

heretothere wrote:
TXRoadMan wrote:
Interesting that the A321(ceo) count is one less than in the Q3 update. I’m guessing that’s the JFK incident frame. Does that signal a w/o, or just an acknowledgment that it’s in ‘liability limbo’ and may be OTS for some time?

Also, the CR9 count is one fewer than Q3. One, single Mesa frame withdrawn or delay in new deliveries from BBD?


The CR9 reduction versus Q3 is from Mesa:

http://investor.mesa-air.com/news-relea ... n-airlines

Yep, N956LR was pulled out; was in VCV for paint from 1/6-1/16 and rejoined the fleet on the 17th as an operational spare. Generic birds are now 939, 942, 956, 241, and 943.

heretothere wrote:
Looks like the YE2020 E175 count went up by 6 to 195 versus last quarter. Anyone know which carrier is getting more? I haven’t seen AA order any additional shells so maybe they’ll come from the existing Republic order?

Either YX upping their count or OO is bringing them into the mix to cover for YV and it just hasn't been announced yet. Pretty sure if they were going to MQ then AA would have announced it.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu Jan 23, 2020 11:39 pm

AA A321NEO N414AL, made it's first flight today, Jan 23, at BFM.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:05 pm

In this article, https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-tran ... -call.aspx It is mentioned that the E190's will be retired by the end of summer.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:42 pm

So with the E190 gone, the shuttle will be on 737 and 319?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:07 pm

Detroit313 wrote:
So with the E190 gone, the shuttle will be on 737 and 319?


I'd guess a mix of E75 and 319 for the most part. There are already quite a few E75s on LGA-DCA. With B6 upping their presence in LGA-BOS, I could see AA downgauging to E75s rather than upgauging to all 319s. DCA-BOS will likely stay mostly 319s, though.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:58 pm

FSDan wrote:
Detroit313 wrote:
So with the E190 gone, the shuttle will be on 737 and 319?


I'd guess a mix of E75 and 319 for the most part. There are already quite a few E75s on LGA-DCA. With B6 upping their presence in LGA-BOS, I could see AA downgauging to E75s rather than upgauging to all 319s. DCA-BOS will likely stay mostly 319s, though.


Why assume that AA must automatically retreat and downguage?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:31 am

ryby92 wrote:
FSDan wrote:
Detroit313 wrote:
So with the E190 gone, the shuttle will be on 737 and 319?


I'd guess a mix of E75 and 319 for the most part. There are already quite a few E75s on LGA-DCA. With B6 upping their presence in LGA-BOS, I could see AA downgauging to E75s rather than upgauging to all 319s. DCA-BOS will likely stay mostly 319s, though.


Why assume that AA must automatically retreat and downguage?


Several reasons:
  • That's what they've already been doing in LGA-DCA and LGA-BOS. Back in the day these routes were all-A319. Over the years AA (and DL too, to be honest) has been content to pull back capacity in favor of maintaining high frequency. E-jets work well because they aren't too big, but still provide a solid passenger experience. It's worth noting that frequencies have been pared back slightly from what they once were as well.
  • There's more competition than ever. Ten years ago it used to just be US and DL running the LGA-BOS and LGA-DCA shuttles (and at one point AA might have been running several daily ER3/ERDs, but not a full shuttle schedule). Now B6 has a shuttle-like schedule on LGA-BOS too, and Amtrak's Acela has made inroads into the market (particularly LGA-DCA).
  • I don't see AA significantly upgauging these routes. Since they don't have another aircraft in the 100-seat category, that means they'd have to run a mix of E75s and 319s to keep capacity roughly flat. If they're seeing weaker fares than they used to in the market, they might lean more heavily towards the E75s. If fares are holding up, they might decide to add some extra capacity and lean more towards 319s.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:50 am

FSDan wrote:
ryby92 wrote:
FSDan wrote:

I'd guess a mix of E75 and 319 for the most part. There are already quite a few E75s on LGA-DCA. With B6 upping their presence in LGA-BOS, I could see AA downgauging to E75s rather than upgauging to all 319s. DCA-BOS will likely stay mostly 319s, though.


Why assume that AA must automatically retreat and downguage?


Several reasons:
  • That's what they've already been doing in LGA-DCA and LGA-BOS. Back in the day these routes were all-A319. Over the years AA (and DL too, to be honest) has been content to pull back capacity in favor of maintaining high frequency. E-jets work well because they aren't too big, but still provide a solid passenger experience. It's worth noting that frequencies have been pared back slightly from what they once were as well.
  • There's more competition than ever. Ten years ago it used to just be US and DL running the LGA-BOS and LGA-DCA shuttles (and at one point AA might have been running several daily ER3/ERDs, but not a full shuttle schedule). Now B6 has a shuttle-like schedule on LGA-BOS too, and Amtrak's Acela has made inroads into the market (particularly LGA-DCA).
  • I don't see AA significantly upgauging these routes. Since they don't have another aircraft in the 100-seat category, that means they'd have to run a mix of E75s and 319s to keep capacity roughly flat. If they're seeing weaker fares than they used to in the market, they might lean more heavily towards the E75s. If fares are holding up, they might decide to add some extra capacity and lean more towards 319s.


Also the E75 has 12F to 8F in the A319. Plus flight is too short for the lack of oven to matter.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:47 am

I never understood why AA's 319s have 8 first class seats only. It should be 12.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:07 pm

Detroit313 wrote:
I never understood why AA's 319s have 8 first class seats only. It should be 12.


Targeted mostly to long and thin markets plus the Carribean where they make more by selling the extra 8Y over the added 4F that may or may not get filled.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:40 pm

is there a list of crj200 that are now retired? the plan released for this year shows 19 of 35 active at present.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:14 pm

AA A321NEO N415AN made it's first flight today, Jan 28 at BFM. Inquiring minds wonder why N408AN, delivered to TUL on 1-4 hasn't been placed in revenue service.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:45 pm

AA's moving to T1 the 3 week of March.The gates at the end of the pier of T1 AA has been marking them for 787's and 777's.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:10 pm

anymaninfc wrote:
AA A321NEO N415AN made it's first flight today, Jan 28 at BFM. Inquiring minds wonder why N408AN, delivered to TUL on 1-4 hasn't been placed in revenue service.


Likely taking a little longer since it is TUL's first NEO induction/conformity check.

As I recall this month there are already a few extra NEO spares floating around that weren't scheduled for the month.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:49 pm

Boston757 wrote:
AA's moving to T1 the 3 week of March.The gates at the end of the pier of T1 AA has been marking them for 787's and 777's.


Would be helpful if you said which airport you're talking about.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:31 pm

anymaninfc wrote:
AA A321NEO N415AN made it's first flight today, Jan 28 at BFM. Inquiring minds wonder why N408AN, delivered to TUL on 1-4 hasn't been placed in revenue service.

N414AL (MSN 9359) also had a second flight at BFM today. (CAF?)

Appears that 9359 and MSN 9374 are flipping registration numbers. 9374 was supposed to be N414AL but will now be N413AN, which hasn't flown yet.

I imagine 414 will go to PIT and 415 will go to TUL, or PIT takes both. Worth noting that PIT can only fit three aircraft in their main hangar.

cathay747 wrote:
Boston757 wrote:
AA's moving to T1 the 3 week of March.The gates at the end of the pier of T1 AA has been marking them for 787's and 777's.


Would be helpful if you said which airport you're talking about.

SFO I believe.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:37 pm

Runway28L wrote:
anymaninfc wrote:
AA A321NEO N415AN made it's first flight today, Jan 28 at BFM. Inquiring minds wonder why N408AN, delivered to TUL on 1-4 hasn't been placed in revenue service.

N414AL (MSN 9359) also had a second flight at BFM today. (CAF?)

Appears that 9359 and MSN 9374 are flipping registration numbers. 9374 was supposed to be N414AL but will now be N413AN, which hasn't flown yet.

I imagine 414 will go to PIT and 415 will go to TUL, or PIT takes both. Worth noting that PIT can only fit three aircraft in their main hangar.

cathay747 wrote:
Boston757 wrote:
AA's moving to T1 the 3 week of March.The gates at the end of the pier of T1 AA has been marking them for 787's and 777's.


Would be helpful if you said which airport you're talking about.

SFO I believe.


Where oh where would AA fly a 777 or 787 from SFO on an international flight ?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:41 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
anymaninfc wrote:
AA A321NEO N415AN made it's first flight today, Jan 28 at BFM. Inquiring minds wonder why N408AN, delivered to TUL on 1-4 hasn't been placed in revenue service.

N414AL (MSN 9359) also had a second flight at BFM today. (CAF?)

Appears that 9359 and MSN 9374 are flipping registration numbers. 9374 was supposed to be N414AL but will now be N413AN, which hasn't flown yet.

I imagine 414 will go to PIT and 415 will go to TUL, or PIT takes both. Worth noting that PIT can only fit three aircraft in their main hangar.

cathay747 wrote:

Would be helpful if you said which airport you're talking about.

SFO I believe.


Where oh where would AA fly a 777 or 787 from SFO on an international flight ?


AA operated the 788 and sometimes the 789 from DFW/ORD-SFO a few months ago
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:11 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
anymaninfc wrote:
AA A321NEO N415AN made it's first flight today, Jan 28 at BFM. Inquiring minds wonder why N408AN, delivered to TUL on 1-4 hasn't been placed in revenue service.

N414AL (MSN 9359) also had a second flight at BFM today. (CAF?)

Appears that 9359 and MSN 9374 are flipping registration numbers. 9374 was supposed to be N414AL but will now be N413AN, which hasn't flown yet.

I imagine 414 will go to PIT and 415 will go to TUL, or PIT takes both. Worth noting that PIT can only fit three aircraft in their main hangar.

cathay747 wrote:

Would be helpful if you said which airport you're talking about.

SFO I believe.


Where oh where would AA fly a 777 or 787 from SFO on an international flight ?


T1 is a newly rebuilt domestic terminal. AA frequently flies 788 to SFO from ORD, DFW and lately PHL. AA occasionally flies 772 into SFO for special purposes...such as Superbowls. To my knowledge, AA doesn't fly any international out of SFO.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:17 pm

anymaninfc wrote:

T1 is a newly rebuilt domestic terminal. AA frequently flies 788 to SFO from ORD, DFW and lately PHL. AA occasionally flies 772 into SFO for special purposes...such as Superbowls. To my knowledge, AA doesn't fly any international out of SFO.


Is AA operating the 788 on PHL-SFO? I thought it was just DFW/LAX/ORD.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:37 pm

Ishrion wrote:
anymaninfc wrote:

T1 is a newly rebuilt domestic terminal. AA frequently flies 788 to SFO from ORD, DFW and lately PHL. AA occasionally flies 772 into SFO for special purposes...such as Superbowls. To my knowledge, AA doesn't fly any international out of SFO.


Is AA operating the 788 on PHL-SFO? I thought it was just DFW/LAX/ORD.


You're correct.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:59 pm

Ishrion wrote:
anymaninfc wrote:

T1 is a newly rebuilt domestic terminal. AA frequently flies 788 to SFO from ORD, DFW and lately PHL. AA occasionally flies 772 into SFO for special purposes...such as Superbowls. To my knowledge, AA doesn't fly any international out of SFO.


Is AA operating the 788 on PHL-SFO? I thought it was just DFW/LAX/ORD.


It was the 332/333 on PHL-SFO.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:30 pm

aaflyer222 wrote:
is there a list of crj200 that are now retired? the plan released for this year shows 19 of 35 active at present.

Here is a list of the PSA CR2 that have been parked, where they are parked and when they were parked. Not sure if they’re retired, just not in revenue status.

CKB 4
N206PS 12/24
N207PS 12/24
N245PS 12/24
N215PS 1/2

JAX 5
N256PS 12/23
N258PS 12/23
N202PS 12/28
N248PS 12/30
N249PS 12/31

TUS 1
N251PS 1/10
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:29 am

Is it true that all the 787-8s delivered this year are going to have strictly forward facing business class seats like the 787-9s already have?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:39 am

Detroit313 wrote:
Is it true that all the 787-8s delivered this year are going to have strictly forward facing business class seats like the 787-9s already have?


Yes
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:43 am

Sydscott wrote:
Detroit313 wrote:
Is it true that all the 787-8s delivered this year are going to have strictly forward facing business class seats like the 787-9s already have?


Yes



That's great news! Thank you!
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:04 am

Detroit313 wrote:
Sydscott wrote:
Detroit313 wrote:
Is it true that all the 787-8s delivered this year are going to have strictly forward facing business class seats like the 787-9s already have?


Yes



That's great news! Thank you!


You're welcome. The rumour is that it will be an upgraded seat of the same type the 789 currently has.
 
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what will AA do with the extra 772's now that China is suspended?

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:14 pm

https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/tra ... avelalerts

Wondering what AA will do with the extra 777's now that LAX-PVG and LAX-PEK is suspended through March 27th.
More MIA-LAX?
 
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Re: what will AA do with the extra 772's now that China is suspended?

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:18 pm

First of all, AA only flies 787s to China, not 777s.
Secondly, they'll probably do some maintenance and upgauge a few popular routes for spring break. Maybe upgauge some hub-to-hub flying. Until they release a schedule update we don't know for sure.
 
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Re: what will AA do with the extra 772's now that China is suspended?

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:21 pm

Great question
Aesthetically the A 340 got it right!
 
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Re: what will AA do with the extra 772's now that China is suspended?

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:33 pm

Jo8338 wrote:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/travel-alerts.jsp?anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=travelalerts

Wondering what AA will do with the extra 777's now that LAX-PVG and LAX-PEK is suspended through March 27th.
More MIA-LAX?


I’d expect to see upgauges on LAX-DFW to funnel LAX’s China passengers onto DFW-China flights, if there’s any.
 
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Re: what will AA do with the extra 772's now that China is suspended?

Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:45 pm

Jo8338 wrote:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/travel-alerts.jsp?anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=travelalerts

Wondering what AA will do with the extra 777's now that LAX-PVG and LAX-PEK is suspended through March 27th.
More MIA-LAX?


Keep in mind AA like UA will still operate some China flights, however I know UA is now looking at full deep cleaning decontamination procedures. What we don't know is how long this virus can live surfaces and aircraft have a lot of surfaces that could potentially be contaminated by a passengers. Right now I'm assuming AA does the full basic cleaning and turns an arriving aircraft from China for a departure to another international or domestic location. What UA is talking about here at Wills Tower is full decontamination which would take more than the standard turn time and would require the aircraft be removed from service for a number or hours (perhaps up to 24 hours) so special crews could deep clean and decontaminate the entire aircraft.

UA continues to work with the CDC and I"m sure AA and DL are doing the same. If the CDC comes back and advised the airlines that any plane arriving from China needs a full deep cleaning decontamination we may not see an influx of widebodies flooding the domestic market. Also although UA has a contingency plan should the Trump administration decide to temporarily ban all travel to/from China I don't think AA, DL, or UA on their own would voluntarily end all service. Taking an aircraft that has jut arrived from China and turning it in the standard 2 hours for a domestic departure could be risking more exposure if this virus can live for an extended period of time outside the human body on surfaces that have been contaminated.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:01 pm

SkyWest today announced 20 E175s to fly for AA, its first 175s it will fly for Eagle. I wonder if they could replace the 20 Compass flies and remove them as an operator, which would leave Compass with no more flying contracts once the Delta contract is done.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 96491.html
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:15 pm

ericm2031 wrote:
SkyWest today announced 20 E175s to fly for AA, its first 175s it will fly for Eagle. I wonder if they could replace the 20 Compass flies and remove them as an operator, which would leave Compass with no more flying contracts once the Delta contract is done.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release ... 96491.html


I believe all AA owned E175s are required to flown by MQ except those 20 at Compass, and those would have to go to Envoy if not flown by Compass. I could see Skywest replacing Compass at LAX while the 20 frames move to MQ.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:42 am

Why was the MD-80 retirement not delayed due to the MAX grounding?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:44 am

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Why was the MD-80 retirement not delayed due to the MAX grounding?

ADS-B mandate I believe which went into effect on January 1.
 
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Re: what will AA do with the extra 772's now that China is suspended?

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:06 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Jo8338 wrote:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/travel-alerts.jsp?anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=travelalerts

Wondering what AA will do with the extra 777's now that LAX-PVG and LAX-PEK is suspended through March 27th.
More MIA-LAX?


I’d expect to see upgauges on LAX-DFW to funnel LAX’s China passengers onto DFW-China flights, if there’s any.


That'd be one helluva back-track! I don't see them doing that given all the other options available out of LAX for the few pax there may be. Travel to/from China is/has gone over a cliff it seems.
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Re: what will AA do with the extra 772's now that China is suspended?

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:08 pm

jayunited wrote:
Jo8338 wrote:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/travel-alerts.jsp?anchorLocation=DirectURL&title=travelalerts

Wondering what AA will do with the extra 777's now that LAX-PVG and LAX-PEK is suspended through March 27th.
More MIA-LAX?


Keep in mind AA like UA will still operate some China flights, however I know UA is now looking at full deep cleaning decontamination procedures. What we don't know is how long this virus can live surfaces and aircraft have a lot of surfaces that could potentially be contaminated by a passengers. Right now I'm assuming AA does the full basic cleaning and turns an arriving aircraft from China for a departure to another international or domestic location. What UA is talking about here at Wills Tower is full decontamination which would take more than the standard turn time and would require the aircraft be removed from service for a number or hours (perhaps up to 24 hours) so special crews could deep clean and decontaminate the entire aircraft.

UA continues to work with the CDC and I"m sure AA and DL are doing the same. If the CDC comes back and advised the airlines that any plane arriving from China needs a full deep cleaning decontamination we may not see an influx of widebodies flooding the domestic market. Also although UA has a contingency plan should the Trump administration decide to temporarily ban all travel to/from China I don't think AA, DL, or UA on their own would voluntarily end all service. Taking an aircraft that has jut arrived from China and turning it in the standard 2 hours for a domestic departure could be risking more exposure if this virus can live for an extended period of time outside the human body on surfaces that have been contaminated.


I think a deep-clean/decon. would be a wise move. Throw in a little MX too.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 3:22 pm

I don’t see this virus going away by March. Increased hub to hub flying will open up seats that may have been lost due to the MAX. Can also upgauge popular flights such as during Spring Break.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri Jan 31, 2020 7:31 pm

Good timing for AA. The virus could help with the MAX situation.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:28 pm

AA received A321NEO N414AL yesterday, Jan. 31, delivered to TUL.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 5:08 am

First of second batch, American 788 LN981 has rolled out of final assembly (1 Feb)

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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:51 am

How many 787-8 are being delivered this year? 12?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:53 am

Detroit313 wrote:
How many 787-8 are being delivered this year? 12?


That’s what the latest AA fleet plans shows. A total of 32 788s by the end of 2020 (+12)
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 6:53 pm

Are they sticking with only 20 business seats?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 8:57 pm

Jo8338 wrote:
Are they sticking with only 20 business seats?


Let's hope not, 20 Business Class seat are not enough. AA needs to put close to 30 J class seats plus 4 rows of Y + seats which is 28 seats at 7 per row, if that removes too economy seats so be it. Hoping AA will standardizes all the seats in their old and new 787-8.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:01 pm

jfk777 wrote:
Jo8338 wrote:
Are they sticking with only 20 business seats?


Let's hope not, 20 Business Class seat are not enough. AA needs to put close to 30 J class seats plus 4 rows of Y + seats which is 28 seats at 7 per row, if that removes too economy seats so be it. Hoping AA will standardizes all the seats in their old and new 787-8.


It's confirmed they'll have the Super Diamond seats with "upgrades", presumably functioning dividers this time.

I've always been wondered, is it necessary to have 28 PE seats on the 788? The 789 only has 21 but more J seats.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:25 am

Out of curiosity, will AA use and 332/333 on domestic hub-to-hub routes out of PHL or CLT this year?
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:51 am

ctrabs0114 wrote:
Out of curiosity, will AA use and 332/333 on domestic hub-to-hub routes out of PHL or CLT this year?

Currently, AA are deploying some of their A333’s onto the CLT-PHX-HNL rotation, as well deploying their A333’s onto the CLT-LAS route.

In terms of PHL, AA mostly dispatch their A332/333 aircraft onto the PHL-LAX route. This flight is currently assigned to the A332 aircraft, however the A333 was also deployed onto the same route.

AA also used to send their A332/333 aircraft to MIA from PHL a couple of years ago. But currently, MIA is dominated by the 767s which are slowly dwindling in size from the AA fleet. I’m not too sure as to whether if we will see a return of the Airbus widebody to MIA this year, but I wouldn’t be surprised as to when the A332/333 becomes a common visitor for domestic flying at MIA in the future, after AA pulls the plug on the 767s.


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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:15 am

BOEING777EK wrote:
ctrabs0114 wrote:
Out of curiosity, will AA use and 332/333 on domestic hub-to-hub routes out of PHL or CLT this year?

Currently, AA are deploying some of their A333’s onto the CLT-PHX-HNL rotation, as well deploying their A333’s onto the CLT-LAS route.

In terms of PHL, AA mostly dispatch their A332/333 aircraft onto the PHL-LAX route. This flight is currently assigned to the A332 aircraft, however the A333 was also deployed onto the same route.

AA also used to send their A332/333 aircraft to MIA from PHL a couple of years ago. But currently, MIA is dominated by the 767s which are slowly dwindling in size from the AA fleet. I’m not too sure as to whether if we will see a return of the Airbus widebody to MIA this year, but I wouldn’t be surprised as to when the A332/333 becomes a common visitor for domestic flying at MIA in the future, after AA pulls the plug on the 767s.

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AA is downgauging the CLT-LAS turn to a 321 and upgauging PHL-PHX to a 330 starting later this month.
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