tnair1974 wrote:chonetsao wrote:blacksoviet wrote:Who will buy the A333s when they are retired? They are only 20 years old.
I heard on this forum that AA's A333s were previous generation and have some short comings. I can't remember exact words but I believe they are range limited. Maybe someone else could tell you more and exact, I have to do with my memory.
Plus with the new 251T A330s and cheap second hand market for A330, I doubt there is a market for AA's A333 except for partings.
I still believe these aircraft could fly AA's Hawaii routes instead of A321s and B757s. 9 A333 for Hawaii routes only could concentrate the mechanics and parts for this type of aircraft only in one market with one hub (PHX) and two other stations/hubs (LAX and HNL).
Yes, very early A330s had less range than later models (ask Aer Lingus how their older birds were sometime challenged to get from Ireland to even ORD, let alone the west coast). But AA's A330-300s also have P&W engines. P&W power is a tiny sub fleet within AA which is enough of a headache, but IIRC P&W engines on older widebodies is less desirable on the second hand market (anyone more knowledgeable confirm/refute). This all said, AA has repeatedly postponed A333 retirement over the years, as they have still shown to be useful enough. Despite their shortcomings, seems it was deemed to use them until they get closer to the end of their lifespans. Prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, AA was scheduled to start retiring A333s and older AA 772s around 2023. Of course this all may be out the window now, but we will see.
Compared to the A333s, AA's A332s have three advantages in that they are more numerous, are significantly younger and have RR power. Unless there's a good deal to sell, guessing the A332s may at most be parked (if that) but not retired.
As a side note, about a year ago (?) AA's oldest current A320s had their retirement delayed which was apparently due to the MAX situation (AA has already retired A320s that were even more elderly [ex-HP birds]).
We did to an upgrade to the 333s when they came in for their first HMV, put a heavy duty landing on them and some other items.