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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 12:00 am

A video has surfaced of a foam incident involving a 787 in a hangar.

https://twitter.com/nasty_canasta/statu ... 03617?s=21
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 12:42 pm

alasizon wrote:
bmibaby737 wrote:
Sorry to ask a rather off-topic question, however hoping someone here might be able to help;

Does anyone know when PSA Airlines re-configured their CRJ-700s (operated by US Airways in 70Y and then 9F/58Y) to the American Eagle 9F/56Y configuration? Or are these aircraft still in the 9F/58Y? Many thanks!


Scope clause. 65-seat RJs are considered "small RJs" versus 66-76 are large RJs. AA's pilot contract has limits for large RJs and overall number of RJs (large + small). By reconfiguring them, they make room for more E175s and CR9s. The same was down with SkyWest's AA operated CR7s (6F/64Y originally).


Interesting. Thank you for the knowledge.

Do you guys think now is the best time for AA management to negotiate with the union to increase the number of seats by up the scope clause?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 12:48 pm

chonetsao wrote:
alasizon wrote:
bmibaby737 wrote:
Sorry to ask a rather off-topic question, however hoping someone here might be able to help;

Does anyone know when PSA Airlines re-configured their CRJ-700s (operated by US Airways in 70Y and then 9F/58Y) to the American Eagle 9F/56Y configuration? Or are these aircraft still in the 9F/58Y? Many thanks!


Scope clause. 65-seat RJs are considered "small RJs" versus 66-76 are large RJs. AA's pilot contract has limits for large RJs and overall number of RJs (large + small). By reconfiguring them, they make room for more E175s and CR9s. The same was down with SkyWest's AA operated CR7s (6F/64Y originally).


Interesting. Thank you for the knowledge.

Do you guys think now is the best time for AA management to negotiate with the union to increase the number of seats by up the scope clause?

The company and the pilots are in Section 6 negotiations currently, their contract is amendable, they’ve been talking for over a year.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 1:07 pm

Boof02671 wrote:
chonetsao wrote:
alasizon wrote:

Scope clause. 65-seat RJs are considered "small RJs" versus 66-76 are large RJs. AA's pilot contract has limits for large RJs and overall number of RJs (large + small). By reconfiguring them, they make room for more E175s and CR9s. The same was down with SkyWest's AA operated CR7s (6F/64Y originally).


Interesting. Thank you for the knowledge.

Do you guys think now is the best time for AA management to negotiate with the union to increase the number of seats by up the scope clause?

The company and the pilots are in Section 6 negotiations currently, their contract is amendable, they’ve been talking for over a year.


That being said, I don't expect any changes to scope. AA already has the most favorable scope clause out of the US3. It's likely that APA will actually want better scope but I think that the way the clause is written now likely won't change until it absolutely has to.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 1:56 pm

chonetsao wrote:
alasizon wrote:
bmibaby737 wrote:
Sorry to ask a rather off-topic question, however hoping someone here might be able to help;

Does anyone know when PSA Airlines re-configured their CRJ-700s (operated by US Airways in 70Y and then 9F/58Y) to the American Eagle 9F/56Y configuration? Or are these aircraft still in the 9F/58Y? Many thanks!


Scope clause. 65-seat RJs are considered "small RJs" versus 66-76 are large RJs. AA's pilot contract has limits for large RJs and overall number of RJs (large + small). By reconfiguring them, they make room for more E175s and CR9s. The same was down with SkyWest's AA operated CR7s (6F/64Y originally).


Interesting. Thank you for the knowledge.

Do you guys think now is the best time for AA management to negotiate with the union to increase the number of seats by up the scope clause?



HAHAHA. AA, DL, and UA are about to furlough the equivilant of several regionals worth of pilots from mainline. They can take their scope request and shove straight where the sun don’t shine.

Mainline pilots shouldn’t be on the street while other airlines fly their passengers with their paint job.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sat May 16, 2020 8:43 pm

chonetsao wrote:
alasizon wrote:
bmibaby737 wrote:
Sorry to ask a rather off-topic question, however hoping someone here might be able to help;

Does anyone know when PSA Airlines re-configured their CRJ-700s (operated by US Airways in 70Y and then 9F/58Y) to the American Eagle 9F/56Y configuration? Or are these aircraft still in the 9F/58Y? Many thanks!


Scope clause. 65-seat RJs are considered "small RJs" versus 66-76 are large RJs. AA's pilot contract has limits for large RJs and overall number of RJs (large + small). By reconfiguring them, they make room for more E175s and CR9s. The same was down with SkyWest's AA operated CR7s (6F/64Y originally).


Interesting. Thank you for the knowledge.

Do you guys think now is the best time for AA management to negotiate with the union to increase the number of seats by up the scope clause?


A bunch of AA pilots are about to lose their jobs. Why would the union want to make it more likely that some of those jobs never come back?

It’s not like AA can dangle more money or more flying in front of them right now.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 4:29 pm

Why was there a three-year delivery gap for the last two AA 772s (N767AJ and N768AA)? The first 45 were delivered pretty steadily between 1999 and 2003 and the last two came on in 2006. Was it just them exercising an order option?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 4:46 pm

From what it looks like, all long-haul flying out of Charlotte will be on the 777-200ER.
- LHR/MUC are both on the 777-200ER upon resuming in July.
- FRA on the 772 upon resuming on October
- CDG/MAD/FCO on the 772 upon resuming in March 2021.

DUB/BCN haven't been loaded yet, I believe they resume in May/June 2021?

As for PHL, all long-haul flying looks to be on the 788 with the exception of LHR seeing the 772 starting October.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 7:51 pm

Ishrion wrote:
From what it looks like, all long-haul flying out of Charlotte will be on the 777-200ER.
- LHR/MUC are both on the 777-200ER upon resuming in July.
- FRA on the 772 upon resuming on October
- CDG/MAD/FCO on the 772 upon resuming in March 2021.

DUB/BCN haven't been loaded yet, I believe they resume in May/June 2021?

As for PHL, all long-haul flying looks to be on the 788 with the exception of LHR seeing the 772 starting October.

This does make sense. I imagine long-haul flying works so well from CLT (with the sole exception of German business traffic) is that it is cheap, simple connections between secondary cities in the South/East Coast to Europe. Starting to add multiple pilot types for the handful of long-haul long haul routes, especially in a super-low-demand recession just adds to cost and ruins the whole idea of Charlotte: a big, cheap, network hub.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun May 17, 2020 7:53 pm

asuflyer wrote:
A video has surfaced of a foam incident involving a 787 in a hangar.

https://twitter.com/nasty_canasta/statu ... 03617?s=21


Seems, there have been two B787 in the hangar during the foam incident, not only one (according Twitter source).
https://twitter.com/avsafeco/status/1261751253006237696
That we already can not see the second B787 in the video, does not mean, it is not there. :rotfl:
(the second one can be easily seen in the back) It is crazy to see, how fast the system is filling up the hangar with foam.
Good, as AA will have more than enough time, to repair them.

EDIT: Here is the second video:
https://twitter.com/breakingavnews/status/1261612251171237889
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 3:31 pm

T4thH wrote:
asuflyer wrote:
A video has surfaced of a foam incident involving a 787 in a hangar.

https://twitter.com/nasty_canasta/statu ... 03617?s=21


Seems, there have been two B787 in the hangar during the foam incident, not only one (according Twitter source).
https://twitter.com/avsafeco/status/1261751253006237696
That we already can not see the second B787 in the video, does not mean, it is not there. :rotfl:
(the second one can be easily seen in the back) It is crazy to see, how fast the system is filling up the hangar with foam.
Good, as AA will have more than enough time, to repair them.

EDIT: Here is the second video:
https://twitter.com/breakingavnews/status/1261612251171237889


This is all just SO hilarious! Glad vids of this finally surfaced. :laughing: :rotfl:
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon May 18, 2020 5:49 pm

cathay747 wrote:
T4thH wrote:
asuflyer wrote:
A video has surfaced of a foam incident involving a 787 in a hangar.

https://twitter.com/nasty_canasta/statu ... 03617?s=21


Seems, there have been two B787 in the hangar during the foam incident, not only one (according Twitter source).
https://twitter.com/avsafeco/status/1261751253006237696
That we already can not see the second B787 in the video, does not mean, it is not there. :rotfl:
(the second one can be easily seen in the back) It is crazy to see, how fast the system is filling up the hangar with foam.
Good, as AA will have more than enough time, to repair them.

EDIT: Here is the second video:
https://twitter.com/breakingavnews/status/1261612251171237889


This is all just SO hilarious! Glad vids of this finally surfaced. :laughing: :rotfl:

First close all doors of the jets, second cover the jet engine inlets and outlets and after this...start the jet wash site. :bouncy: Every child knows it.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 6:01 pm

AA will conduct a 6-month widebody fleet review with an eye towards if existing 787 orders can replace the 772 fleet to improve efficiency.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton ... 03e8e46424
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Thu May 21, 2020 6:21 pm

 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 7:34 pm

LAXintl wrote:
AA will conduct a 6-month widebody fleet review with an eye towards if existing 787 orders can replace the 772 fleet to improve efficiency.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton ... 03e8e46424

I'm surprised if AA only has the 787 widebody in the future though the 77W is young still.
Future Fleet could be B738 Max, A321Neo, B787, probably 77W
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 7:47 pm

LAXintl wrote:
AA will conduct a 6-month widebody fleet review with an eye towards if existing 787 orders can replace the 772 fleet to improve efficiency.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton ... 03e8e46424


Forty-six 772s is a lot of capacity to retire, even if most of them are 17-21 years old.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 8:08 pm

Planning and flexibility are great but in this instance team Tempe is out of touch with reality to the point of insanity. AA is leveraged to the hilt, demand is near nil,and has a sub par product. How are they planning paying for more 787 and writing down/paying off the 777? It seems as if they are still working in a pre-covid mindset and barely paying lip service to the (gag) "new normal ".
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 8:12 pm

gen2stew wrote:
Planning and flexibility are great but in this instance team Tempe is out of touch with reality to the point of insanity. AA is leveraged to the hilt, demand is near nil,and has a sub par product. How are they planning paying for more 787 and writing down/paying off the 777?


Just about everyone involved in fleet planning is LAA or post-merger AA, very few LUS people in that group. If you read the article, you'd note that only 3 of the 772s are leased. If you already own the asset, writing it down hits your book but doesn't effect cash flow which is king right now.

Isom isn't saying all the 772s are leaving tomorrow, but they are still on the hook for the 787s so they have to decide whether to use them for replacement of 772s or re-expansion back into markets covered by the 330/763.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 8:19 pm

gen2stew wrote:
Planning and flexibility are great but in this instance team Tempe is out of touch with reality to the point of insanity. AA is leveraged to the hilt, demand is near nil,and has a sub par product. How are they planning paying for more 787 and writing down/paying off the 777? It seems as if they are still working in a pre-covid mindset and barely paying lip service to the (gag) "new normal ".


I would assume Boeing will come up with great offers for AA to take even more debt.

A lot of AA's current debt is a result of the shopping spree with both Airbus and Boeing during last bankruptcy. Since the debt is 'cheap', and AA was a good customer, I have no doubt Boeing will do its best to provide AA with extra credit facilities and flexible terms as long as AA can service the debt.

Since both are in trouble, and Boeing needs AA even more on the B787 order, the last thing Boeing wants is to see AA going through the CH-11 again which may make more troubles for Boeing ahead. So my money is on Boeing to somehow find magic within its financing arms to facilitate AA's debt thirst.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 8:22 pm

LAXintl wrote:
AA will conduct a 6-month widebody fleet review with an eye towards if existing 787 orders can replace the 772 fleet to improve efficiency.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton ... 03e8e46424


My bet is a premium heavy version of B789 with 38J, or a conversion of certain number of B788/789 to B787-10 for premium heavy LHR market.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 8:50 pm

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ahj2000 wrote:
Hopefully AA will just bite the bullet and add 2x JFK-CDG on widebodies now. The whole 757 ordeal was a shame against AF and DL's far superior offerings.


It's been a few years at least since AA flew a 757 on JFK-CDG. After they dropped the second daily frequency (the 757 flight) the remaining frequency continued with a 763 for a while, and then last year I believe it moved to the 772 along with the rest of the JFK-Europe routes. AA network planning has claimed that JFK-Europe routes became quite profitable after moving to the 772 with the far superior J product.

However, I'd be surprised if AA restarted a 2nd daily JFK-CDG in the near future.


I would love to see the second JFK-CDG restored, but I think it’s just a dream. Especially if it was the evening departure from CDG around 1700-1715, arriving at JFK around 2030. It allowed business people to have a full day of work and then get back to New York without having to spend an extra night in a hotel, and then get a good night’s sleep at home before going to work the next day, much like AA’s and BA’s evening departures from LHR to JFK.

The return flight 121 was moved to an earlier time, leaving at 1300 or so, and not conducive to a business person’s schedule, but the bean counters felt it would be better to make the employees at CDG part time, and they didn’t want an evening shift. The yields went down, and then the flight was scrapped altogether.

Unfortunately, the AF-DL joint business increased its market share in JFK-CDG while AA was messing around with changing the times of the flights and using inferior equipment. The market rebounded drastically for AA with the 772, business travelers flocked to the improved product and cargo was through the roof. But I doubt that the second flight will be back soon.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 9:23 pm

I don't know if the 777 are owned outright or have a lean. I'm listed as the "owner" of my home and say I "own " my home even though I have a mortgage. That's where my question is based.

My reference to team Tempe is that LUS/HP are the ones driving the decisions of those who work beneath them. As I overheard in DFW "either play our way or leave".
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 9:42 pm

With the assumption that demand will be down for some time and that we are headed into a global recession for the next few years, its certainly plausible play to jettison the 772 fleet.

At this weeks transportation conference AA stated they would retrench further internationally and also lean on JV partners more moving forward, so I could very much see an AA without the 772, with the 787 being its widebody backbone.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 9:53 pm

-"Will the planned retrofits move forward?

-Yes. With a number of our aircraft being stored in Tulsa, OK, this gives us an opportunity to continue harmonizing the cabins of our Boeing 737-800 and Airbus A321 aircraft. Standardizing cabin layouts across our narrowbody fleet helps frontline teams better re-accommodate customers during irregular operations and last-minute equipment swaps. A majority of the new seats, larger overhead bins and other parts required to complete the cabin modifications were previously purchased and are in storage pending installation."
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 21, 2020 11:56 pm

PHLspecial wrote:
LAXintl wrote:
AA will conduct a 6-month widebody fleet review with an eye towards if existing 787 orders can replace the 772 fleet to improve efficiency.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/willhorton ... 03e8e46424

I'm surprised if AA only has the 787 widebody in the future though the 77W is young still.
Future Fleet could be B738 Max, A321Neo, B787, probably 77W


So you anticipate them retiring the 738, 319, 320, and 321CEO?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 12:32 am

AAtakeMeAway wrote:
So you anticipate them retiring the 738, 319, 320, and 321CEO?

No, I'm probably talking like 2030 here. This is long into the future. I would think though planes can at least fly another 10 years.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 1:30 am

Other than the 320s and older 738s the rest of the narrowbody fleet should stick.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 1:45 am

Can anyone provide the tail numbers of those two 787s that got caught in that hangar deluge at DFW the other day?
 
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 1:33 pm

LAXintl wrote:
With the assumption that demand will be down for some time and that we are headed into a global recession for the next few years, its certainly plausible play to jettison the 772 fleet.

At this weeks transportation conference AA stated they would retrench further internationally and also lean on JV partners more moving forward, so I could very much see an AA without the 772, with the 787 being its widebody backbone.


I agree w/you, that really makes good sense; I presume you also mean keeping the 77W's for select markets?
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 5:10 pm

Any idea if N416AN is stored in PIT ? It was delivered in late February this year and I think it's the only 32Q from AA that is not flying at the moment.

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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 22, 2020 5:52 pm

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Any idea if N416AN is stored in PIT ? It was delivered in late February this year and I think it's the only 32Q from AA that is not flying at the moment.

The777Man

Yes it is. It has been here since 3/27.

402, 406 and 409 are also parked at PIT.
 
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 4:17 pm

"All AA 320s have finished having power ports at each seat installed."

https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1265318924125691904
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 4:21 pm

* First LAA 321 that’s been Oasis'd should be returning to service in the next couple days

* Ramped up 321 Oasis conversions as well. Now four lines running concurrently with 3 of them being LUS birds.

https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1263964642050576385
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 5:28 pm

Which LAA bird is the first to come out of Oasis?
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 5:47 pm

gen2stew wrote:
Planning and flexibility are great but in this instance team Tempe is out of touch with reality to the point of insanity. AA is leveraged to the hilt, demand is near nil,and has a sub par product. How are they planning paying for more 787 and writing down/paying off the 777? It seems as if they are still working in a pre-covid mindset and barely paying lip service to the (gag) "new normal ".


I think you're being a bit harsh. AA may not have a great soft product on domestic routes (depending on who the competition is), but their international premium cabin is certainly strong, and their Premium Economy and regular Economy cabins competitive with everybody else. Cathay Pacific/JAL/etc. they're not, but that's not their primary competition.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 5:56 pm

A couple weeks ago I was on a LUS 321 that had been Oasis. It wasn’t a NEO. Plane had 20 F and power ports. So there’s got to be at least one operating in the new configuration.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 5:59 pm

Miamiairport wrote:
A couple weeks ago I was on a LUS 321 that had been Oasis. It wasn’t a NEO. Plane had 20 F and power ports. So there’s got to be at least one operating in the new configuration.


There’s at least 3 LUS A321s with Oasis: https://sites.google.com/site/newameric ... 21-classic

The first A321ceo to receive the new interior began flying at around March 2019.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 7:33 pm

Several aircraft have exited storage at PIT:

A319 N70020 ferried PIT-SAL 5/3
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N70020

A319 N815AW ferried PIT-SAT 5/5
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N815AW

A321 N583UW ferried PIT-SAL yesterday.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9778

A319 N818AW scheduled to ferry PIT-PHL today for service re-entry.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9785

The following aircraft that were parked at PIT are now back in service:
A319 N8001N
A319 N9002U
A319 N8009T
A319 N9016
A319 N9021H
A319 N9022G
A319 N12028
A319 N732US
A320 N122US
A321 N188US (scheduled to ferry SAL-CLT today)
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Wed May 27, 2020 8:41 pm

Jo8338 wrote:
Which LAA bird is the first to come out of Oasis?

N930AU will be exiting TUL any day now.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 28, 2020 2:31 pm

Ishrion wrote:
Miamiairport wrote:
A couple weeks ago I was on a LUS 321 that had been Oasis. It wasn’t a NEO. Plane had 20 F and power ports. So there’s got to be at least one operating in the new configuration.


There’s at least 3 LUS A321s with Oasis: https://sites.google.com/site/newameric ... 21-classic

The first A321ceo to receive the new interior began flying at around March 2019.


I wish on that site/page they'd add in the Comments column "Oasis" so we'd know; otherwise, is the indication the ships which show 20J/170Y with MCE shown as TBD and "power" as YES? I'm presuming so as there's only about 3 or 4.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Thu May 28, 2020 4:36 pm

cathay747 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:
Miamiairport wrote:
A couple weeks ago I was on a LUS 321 that had been Oasis. It wasn’t a NEO. Plane had 20 F and power ports. So there’s got to be at least one operating in the new configuration.


There’s at least 3 LUS A321s with Oasis: https://sites.google.com/site/newameric ... 21-classic

The first A321ceo to receive the new interior began flying at around March 2019.


I wish on that site/page they'd add in the Comments column "Oasis" so we'd know; otherwise, is the indication the ships which show 20J/170Y with MCE shown as TBD and "power" as YES? I'm presuming so as there's only about 3 or 4.


Yes. 20J/170Y is the Oasis A321; 16J/156Y is the Oasis 737, but it looks like they now have a separate section for the Oasis 738s so that’s nice.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 29, 2020 3:40 am

A319 N808AW ferried PIT-DFW today for return to service.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9792

A21N N406AN appears to be undergoing prep work at PIT for RTS.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 29, 2020 3:10 pm

A21Ns N406AN and N409AA scheduled to ferry PIT-DFW today for return to service.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9798
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9799
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Fri May 29, 2020 3:10 pm

Ishrion wrote:
cathay747 wrote:
Ishrion wrote:

There’s at least 3 LUS A321s with Oasis: https://sites.google.com/site/newameric ... 21-classic

The first A321ceo to receive the new interior began flying at around March 2019.


I wish on that site/page they'd add in the Comments column "Oasis" so we'd know; otherwise, is the indication the ships which show 20J/170Y with MCE shown as TBD and "power" as YES? I'm presuming so as there's only about 3 or 4.


Yes. 20J/170Y is the Oasis A321; 16J/156Y is the Oasis 737, but it looks like they now have a separate section for the Oasis 738s so that’s nice.


OK, thanks, seemed obvious but wanted to confirm.
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun May 31, 2020 6:03 pm

A21N N402AN ferried PIT-DFW yesterday for service re-entry.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9791

A21N N416AN scheduled to ferry PIT-LAX tomorrow for service re-entry.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9779

All A321neo aircraft will now be back in service.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Sun May 31, 2020 6:36 pm

Fly all the Neos and 321S please and take all the 321L in to be Oasisfied please.

No reason to fly 321L in transcons right now.
 
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Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

Mon Jun 01, 2020 1:50 pm

Runway28L wrote:
A21N N402AN ferried PIT-DFW yesterday for service re-entry.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9791

A21N N416AN scheduled to ferry PIT-LAX tomorrow for service re-entry.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AA9779

All A321neo aircraft will now be back in service.


You'd think they'd work these airplanes into the schedule to operate a revenue flight vs. a ferry to help with their daily cash burn. I mean, PIT-LAX is a rather long way to fly an empty airplane. They should have done equip. subs on existing flights to DFW or another hub route from PIT for both of these and all past & future ones. Idiotic if you ask me.
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