chonetsao wrote:NYCAAer wrote:cathay747 wrote:
That doesn't make any sense...if there are 2 bunks, don't tell me AA was forced by some idiocy to have to block a J-seat so if BOTH pilots on rest break wanted to sit vs. lay down they can???
It’s contractual with APA. The power of the union.
We do the same thing on the 772. The pilots have 2 bunks, but one J seat will be blocked off for them on flights with 3 pilots to Europe and South America, and 2 J seats blocked off for the pilots on flights to Asia.
It’s not an issue on the 77W, where there are 2 bunks and 2 seats for the pilots above deck.
Thank you NYCAAer, that is what I thought have happened thus I have mentioned it was contractual requirement. Your explanation fits in what I was told before.
It is 'idiocy' requirement as some others might believe, but that is what pilot union fought for. I believe on many EU-US flights where B788 operated, one J seat is always blocked. Thus it is always reflected in the system as 19J configuration.
The 19J configuration brings a lot of problems. AA complains they can not sell more seats, however, from what I have heard. 19J worked well for leisure heavy summer only routes. Yet, very often, the J seats got sold out weeks in advance (let us say average 2 weeks) and that renders AA's ability to sell last minute super expensive seats for business folks that needed to go to a secondary European city in last minute. Whereas UA and DL never had the problem as their aircraft is premium heavy compare to AA's B788 and A332. Some of the problem is that LAA always have more premium seats in their long haul flights and they know how to sell them. LUS folks never had the expertise to maximise the premium market. When the merger happened, the management was flooded with LUS people, thus the reason to remove 8J seats from B788 and make them 20J.
From a product point of view, it might have matched the demand to a certain degree, but it also restricted AA's pricing power in certain market, and seriously trashed yield. I would be disappointed to learn if AA had kept the new B788 in 20J configuration. LUS folks are great in management of bean counter. But LAA managers knows how to sell international premium seats. AA needs some of the LAA folks back.
Well, if AA caved to ALPA and agreed to block a J seat when there are TWO BUNKS, which IS idiocy, then I now agree with a poster above who stated that they need more J seats, and with your claim above about last-minute-selling & pricing power, but I add the caveat of "only a few more seats" and I mean like no more than one row...compensate for the crew-blocked seat and add 3 more for extra sales...the sales peeps need to beat out the bean counters, which in the end would actually please the bean counters with greater revenue & (hopefully) profits.