Moderators: jsumali2, richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

 
User avatar
qf789
Moderator
Topic Author
Posts: 11134
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:42 pm

Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:31 pm

Welcome to the Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020. Please continue to post your comments below

Link to last thread

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1411899
Forum Moderator
 
VV
Posts: 1860
Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 3:32 pm

Can someone post the total E2 deliveries in 2019 please. Thank you.
 
User avatar
Devilfish
Posts: 7119
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:52 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:29 pm

I wish the E175-E2 a successful Testing, Certification, Order and Production campaign in 2020..... :bigthumbsup: .....

"Everyone is entitled to my opinion." - Garfield
 
User avatar
lightsaber
Moderator
Posts: 20265
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:37 pm

VV wrote:
Can someone post the total E2 deliveries in 2019 please. Thank you.

I second this request. Thanks in advance.

Lightsaber
Winter is coming.
 
User avatar
STT757
Posts: 14144
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2000 1:14 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:07 am

Here's hoping for a ERJ-195E2 order from United in 2020!


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro
Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
 
LegoAir
Posts: 29
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:57 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:07 pm

VV wrote:
Can someone post the total E2 deliveries in 2019 please. Thank you.


14 190/195E2 delivered in 2019:

Air Astana (AerCap): 4 190E2
Helvetic: 2 190E2
Air Kiribati: 1 190E2
Azul (AerCap): 4 195E2
Binter: 3 195E2
 
VV
Posts: 1860
Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:48 pm

LegoAir wrote:
VV wrote:
Can someone post the total E2 deliveries in 2019 please. Thank you.


14 190/195E2 delivered in 2019:

Air Astana (AerCap): 4 190E2
Helvetic: 2 190E2
Air Kiribati: 1 190E2
Azul (AerCap): 4 195E2
Binter: 3 195E2


Thanks.

I guess it is on top of E1 deliveries.
 
User avatar
atcsundevil
Moderator
Posts: 4290
Joined: Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu Feb 20, 2020 1:42 pm

Just a reminder, this is a testing and production thread. Orders should be discussed in a different thread.

✈️ atcsundevil
 
Someone83
Posts: 4902
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:47 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:23 am

Azul's 5th E195-E2 has been delivered according to Skyliner

Embraer 195 -E2 190.20028 PS-AED Azul Linhas Aéreas delivery 29feb20 SJK-POA-MVD-CNF
 
solracfunk14
Posts: 83
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:10 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Mon Mar 02, 2020 5:45 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Azul's 5th E195-E2 has been delivered according to Skyliner

Embraer 195 -E2 190.20028 PS-AED Azul Linhas Aéreas delivery 29feb20 SJK-POA-MVD-CNF


Arrived at saturday alongside the 2nd Airbus A321neo for the airline
 
fcogafa
Posts: 1279
Joined: Fri May 16, 2008 4:37 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Mar 03, 2020 11:56 am

An E2 demonstrator is at Gary Indiana this week, maybe a demo to United?
 
mxaxai
Posts: 1979
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:29 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Fri Apr 17, 2020 5:46 pm

Helvetic is delaying delivery of two E2-190 by half a year; new delivery date is end of 2020 / Q4 instead of Q2. Interview with the CEO of Helvetic, in German: https://www.airliners.de/helvetic-coron ... view/54860

The E1 fleet will continue to be phased out, so the summer fleet will be two jets smaller than originally planned. Good news is that they don't need government support.
 
Someone83
Posts: 4902
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:47 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 8:29 am

More bad news, as Azul is postponing deliveries of 59 E195-E2s to 2024 and beyond

https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/12 ... 8722505735

Azul has deferred deliveries of 59 E2s due from 2020-2023 to 2024 and later. This is a big blow to Embraer.
 
bkmbr
Posts: 267
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:27 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 2:38 pm

Embraer Delivers Five Commercial and Nine Executive Jets in 1Q20

1Q20

Commercial Aviation
175E1 - 3 Units (N290NN, N291NN and N292NN for Envoy)
190E2 - 1 Unit (HB-AZC for Helvetic)
195E2 - 1 Unit (PS-AED for Azul)

Executive Aviation
Phenom 300 - 5 Units
Praetor 500 - 1 Unit
Praetor 600 - 3 Units

As of March 31, 2020 the E175E1 have 163 firm orders, 190E1 have 4, 190E2 have 15 and 195E2 have 136
 
User avatar
EMBSPBR
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu May 14, 2020 3:58 pm

Someone83 wrote:
More bad news, as Azul is postponing deliveries of 59 E195-E2s to 2024 and beyond

https://twitter.com/e_russell/status/12 ... 8722505735

Azul has deferred deliveries of 59 E2s due from 2020-2023 to 2024 and later. This is a big blow to Embraer.


It is a big blow to everyone in the world.
Worst scenario ever.
In the USA alone, 36 million works have been applied for unemployment benefits.
It is not just the aerospace industry as a whole that is suffering.
It is not an isolated case of Embraer only.

Just to mention:

Source:
https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers ... 77.article

US Senators propose aerospace industry private-public partnership
 
User avatar
EMBSPBR
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:58 pm

Fourth E190-E2 delivered on June 26th. to Helvetic Airways, HB-AZD, msn 1902003.

Courtesy picture by Emerson Farias:

Image
 
MEA-707
Posts: 3785
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 1999 4:51 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:14 pm

EMBSPBR wrote:
Fourth E190-E2 delivered on June 26th. to Helvetic Airways, HB-AZD, msn 1902003.

Courtesy picture by Emerson Farias:

Image

I think the msn is 19020031. :-)
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
 
User avatar
EMBSPBR
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Sat Jun 27, 2020 3:32 pm

MEA-707 wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:
Fourth E190-E2 delivered on June 26th. to Helvetic Airways, HB-AZD, msn 1902003.

Courtesy picture by Emerson Farias:

Image

I think the msn is 19020031. :-)


Sorry, my bad, correcting: msn 19020031 !
Thank you !
 
User avatar
EMBSPBR
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:45 pm

Today Embraer delivered the fifth E190-E2 to Helvetic Airways, msn 19020038, HB-AZE, and is 1600th. EJet family (E170, E175, E190, E195, E190-E2, E195-E2) produced:

Source:
https://embraer.com/global/en/news?slug ... ic-airways

Excerpt:

São José dos Campos, Brazil, July 1st, 2020
Embraer celebrated today the delivery of its 1,600th E-Jet, an E190-E2. Helvetic Airways of Switzerland received the milestone aircraft. Airlines and leasing companies from some 50 countries have added Embraer E-Jets to their fleets since the first-generation jets entered revenue service in 2004. The new, highly fuel-efficient second-generation E-Jets family, the E2s, started flying with airlines in 2018.


Photos courtesy by Embraer:

Image

Image

Image
 
User avatar
EMBSPBR
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:18 pm

Good to see that "show must go on" on Embraer Commercial Division, despite the challenges of this moment and the JV "joke":

Source: https://airwaysmag.com/manufacturer/emb ... 0th-e-jet/

According yo Tobias Pogorevc, Helvetic Airways CEO:

"The airline is especially proud to receive an E2 aircraft in these challenging times for our industry, and it’s a genuine privilege to share this special moment with Embraer."

And:

"The aviation industry has been ravaged by the COVID-19 pandemic lately, so still taking delivery of new aircraft in this time is nothing to scoff at.
While further aircraft deliveries have been delayed slightly, the fourth and fifth aircraft deliveries will proceed as planned."


Still from the some source:

"The E-Jet series entered service in 2004, and over 15 years later, the industry’s most successful aircraft in the 70-150 seat market is still serving in the fleets of 80 airlines spanning 50 countries.

Since its introduction, the series’ order books have seen nearly 2,000 entries from over 100 customers. Furthemore, the E-jet fleet has flown over 30 million hours, at an impressive 99.9% mission completion rate.

Meijer added, “It’s an honor in my new role as President and CEO of Embraer Commercial Aviation to deliver this landmark aircraft. It’s a tremendous milestone in the E-Jets program and in the company’s history.”
 
Jungleneer
Posts: 56
Joined: Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:56 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:17 pm

This nose without AOA Vanes is very nice!
 
TonyClifton
Posts: 260
Joined: Thu May 14, 2020 3:19 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:20 pm

Very sharp looking jet. I do miss the old pure fuchsia Helvetic livery.
 
User avatar
Crosswind
Posts: 2592
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2000 4:34 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:05 pm

Jungleneer wrote:
This nose without AOA Vanes is very nice!


No E-Jet of any series E1 or E2 have AOA vanes... they’ve had ADSP Smart Probes from the original design. Embraer were seemingly the first company to design the system into a commercial airliner. Since followed by Airbus with the A380\350. This system provides massive redundancy over a conventional air data system... as well as complexity and weight saving.

https://utcaerospacesystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/SmartProbeR-Air-Data-Systems.pdf

Regards
CROSSWIND
 
mxaxai
Posts: 1979
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 7:29 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu Jul 09, 2020 7:05 pm

EMBSPBR wrote:
Today Embraer delivered the fifth E190-E2 to Helvetic Airways, msn 19020038, HB-AZE, and is 1600th. EJet family (E170, E175, E190, E195, E190-E2, E195-E2) produced:

Source:
https://embraer.com/global/en/news?slug ... ic-airways

The article doesn't mention the delivery flight, which was nonstop from Brasil to Zurich. They did do a refueling stop in NAT, but the NAT-ZRH segment is 3941 nm great circle. Flight time 9:10 h.
Embraers for European customers usually get delivered via the Canaries, which divides the distance into shorter legs.
https://www.radarbox.com/data/registration/HB-AZE

Impressive, even if it is a ferry flight.
 
Someone83
Posts: 4902
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:47 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:05 am

Embraer pushes back E175-E2 EIS to 2023

https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 39.article
 
User avatar
EMBSPBR
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:36 pm

Source: https://ri.embraer.com.br/listresultado ... bNAc2ESQ==

Excerpt:

PROGRAM UPDATE ON E175-E2

"Given the current market conditions for commercial aviation as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic, [i]Embraer
confirms the reschedule of the start of operations of the E175-E2 jet until 2023.
Embraer is continuing the
development of the aircraft, although now on the revised timeline. The Company believes that the E175-E2 will
still be available with more than adequate time to enter into service in the commercial aviation market to meet
market demand for the jet. Until then, Embraer continues to offer the market-leading E175 jet from the first
generation of E-Jets, the most efficient and comfortable commercial aircraft in the market in the 76-seat
category."[/i]

And, besides de COVID-19 and the Boeing JV fiasco:

"Embraer’s liquidity remains solid as the Company finished the quarter with total cash of US$ 2.0 billion and
major debt maturities starting in 2022 onwards. The Company also finalized the terms of contracts for
working capital and export financing with export credit agencies in Brazil and the United States and private
and public banks, adding a total of up to US$ 700 million to its total liquidity. Disbursements of these new
financing lines are expected to be completed in the third quarter of 2020 reinforcing Embraer’s cash position
in the second half of 2020 and into 2021."
 
User avatar
EMBSPBR
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:39 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Embraer pushes back E175-E2 EIS to 2023

https://www.flightglobal.com/air-transp ... 39.article


I'm sorry to replicate your news but with a different source.
Flight Global articles are accessible to subscribers only ...
 
MEA-707
Posts: 3785
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 1999 4:51 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 05, 2020 1:48 pm

I think Embraer should use this time to finally try to shave off some weight off the E175-E2. Use lighter materials. Maybe cut out 70 centimeter of fuselage and 1 row of seats if necessairy. They will have the scope market (Express carriers) in their pocket with the CRJ closing down and the MRJ not going anywhere but only then.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
 
User avatar
Phosphorus
Posts: 1034
Joined: Tue May 16, 2017 11:38 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:01 pm

MEA-707 wrote:
I think Embraer should use this time to finally try to shave off some weight off the E175-E2. Use lighter materials. Maybe cut out 70 centimeter of fuselage and 1 row of seats if necessairy. They will have the scope market (Express carriers) in their pocket with the CRJ closing down and the MRJ not going anywhere but only then.


If it's a redesign THAT deep, what's wrong with keeping E175-E2 as is, and creating a "US scope-compliant" version along the lines you suggest, calling it, I dunno... maybe E170-E2 ?
AN4 A40 L4T TU3 TU5 IL6 ILW I93 F50 F70 100 146 ARJ AT7 DH4 L10 CRJ ERJ E90 E95 DC-9 MD-8X YK4 YK2 SF3 S20 319 320 321 332 333 343 346 722 732 733 734 735 73G 738 739 744 74M 757 767 777
Ceterum autem censeo, Moscovia esse delendam
 
User avatar
FiscAutTecGarte
Posts: 141
Joined: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:40 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:38 pm

EMBSPBR wrote:
Good to see that "show must go on" on Embraer Commercial Division, despite the challenges of this moment and the JV "joke":


EMBSPBR wrote:
the Boeing JV fiasco:


Tells us how you feel. C'mon.... Boeing is in no position to give Embraer 4 Billion dollars and you know it. Boeing was negotiating with Embraer in good faith. However, you will agree that Aviation has changed significantly in the last 6 months and has been particularly rough on Boeing for 20 months (self inflicted yes, but very real).

Back on topic:

Phosphorus wrote:
If it's a redesign THAT deep, what's wrong with keeping E175-E2 as is, and creating a "US scope-compliant" version along the lines you suggest, calling it, I dunno... maybe E170-E2 ?


I think many of us fans of aviation wonder why a scope compliant 76pax single class E170-E2 isn't being developed. However, we are fans, so our view is clouded (we always want to see new aircraft development). Furthermore, we aren't talking to airlines, therefore, we don't know if such a plane will be acceptable (maybe airlines absolutely must have 4 to 6 first class seats in their 76pax regionals).
learning never stops...

FischAutoTechGarten is the full handle and it reflects my interest. It's abbreviated to fit A.net short usernames.
 
User avatar
EMBSPBR
Posts: 677
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:17 pm

FiscAutTecGarte wrote:
Tells us how you feel. C'mon.... Boeing is in no position to give Embraer 4 Billion dollars and you know it. Boeing was negotiating with Embraer in good faith. However, you will agree that Aviation has changed significantly in the last 6 months and has been particularly rough on Boeing for 20 months (self inflicted yes, but very real).
Back on topic:


We have a phrase in Portuguese to define this:
"little flour, my porridge first" !!!
And, if you really want to know how I feel, I feel much better and happier now that the JV has not taken place ...
Boeing is in worse shape than before the pandemic, and I am not just talking about the financial aspect:
MAX saga with heavy order cancellations, program delays, reduced workforce and production, etc ...
It will take longer for Boeing to recover than Embraer itself ...

Back to topic:
On the part of Embraer, there will be no new projects within a minimum period of 5 years or until the aviation sector recovers at pre-pandemic levels.
And there will certainly not be an "adjusted" E175-E2 to be an E170-E2!
Period.
 
User avatar
lightsaber
Moderator
Posts: 20265
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:47 pm

FiscAutTecGarte wrote:
Phosphorus wrote:
If it's a redesign THAT deep, what's wrong with keeping E175-E2 as is, and creating a "US scope-compliant" version along the lines you suggest, calling it, I dunno... maybe E170-E2 ?


I think many of us fans of aviation wonder why a scope compliant 76pax single class E170-E2 isn't being developed. However, we are fans, so our view is clouded (we always want to see new aircraft development). Furthermore, we aren't talking to airlines, therefore, we don't know if such a plane will be acceptable (maybe airlines absolutely must have 4 to 6 first class seats in their 76pax regionals).

If there is to be any economy of scale on the E2, there must be a scope compliant E2-175 (perhaps marketed as the E2-170 even with E1-175 length, or more).

There have been zero sales of the current E2-175. The prototype(s) should be mothballed and the smaller variant (reduce the increase in wingspan too).

The M90 seems to be moving forward after turbulent development. If the M100 goes forward, it will be E1-175 vs. M100.

Aviation is about economics of scale.

Boeing is in trouble, so they will do or say anything (right or wrong) to hold onto their billions. There is no point worrying about that. We are where we are.

What matters is a reduction in E2 flight testing.

Are there any PiPs planned to help sell more E2-195s. Yes, I'm biased, I am paid to help with PiPs, so accept I will also know their importance. :bouncy:

Lightsaber
Winter is coming.
 
User avatar
FiscAutTecGarte
Posts: 141
Joined: Tue Dec 24, 2019 6:40 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:44 pm

EMBSPBR wrote:
Back to topic:
On the part of Embraer, there will be no new projects within a minimum period of 5 years or until the aviation sector recovers at pre-pandemic levels.
And there will certainly not be an "adjusted" E175-E2 to be an E170-E2!
Period.


Which is a bummer.... Because I really like Embraer. I want it to succeed and constantly developing new planes to put pressure on Boeing and Airbus (so that they produce better planes too). The world needs a 3rd strong contender on the aviation scene.

I don't want an adjusted E175-E2..... I want the 170-E2 to be offered along side it.... a 4 member family just like the original E1 series!! I think Europe will eventually take the E2-175 as it is, but they'd feel much more comfortable knowing that there was a resale potential on the NorthAmerican Continent.

I hope Embraer isn't forever done with the 120/145 fuselage size forever... Would love to see a new family of 19pax, 30pax and 50pax Props! But again, that's just me being an aviation fan!

Thanks for sharing those photos of the Helvetic E2-190... what a beautiful bird.
learning never stops...

FischAutoTechGarten is the full handle and it reflects my interest. It's abbreviated to fit A.net short usernames.
 
User avatar
lightsaber
Moderator
Posts: 20265
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:54 pm

FiscAutTecGarte wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:
Back to topic:
On the part of Embraer, there will be no new projects within a minimum period of 5 years or until the aviation sector recovers at pre-pandemic levels.
And there will certainly not be an "adjusted" E175-E2 to be an E170-E2!
Period.


Which is a bummer.... Because I really like Embraer. I want it to succeed and constantly developing new planes to put pressure on Boeing and Airbus (so that they produce better planes too). The world needs a 3rd strong contender on the aviation scene.

I don't want an adjusted E175-E2..... I want the 170-E2 to be offered along side it.... a 4 member family just like the original E1 series!! I think Europe will eventually take the E2-175 as it is, but they'd feel much more comfortable knowing that there was a resale potential on the NorthAmerican Continent.

I hope Embraer isn't forever done with the 120/145 fuselage size forever... Would love to see a new family of 19pax, 30pax and 50pax Props! But again, that's just me being an aviation fan!

Thanks for sharing those photos of the Helvetic E2-190... what a beautiful bird.

If there is no adjusted E2-175, then Embraer has only the E1-175 for the scope market.

I believe that by 2025 the US domestic market will have recovered. If, and only if, there is a competitive M100, that market will be lost. The E2-175 will have to compete with a future M90. As badly run as that program was, they are on the end run and at least have a launch order.

With all the other labor concessions, you can bet pilots will not conceed on Scope and outsource more jobs.

So the question is then, what PiPs are in work to improve E2-195 sales. Since Embraer is done if they fire all the degreed engineers and the KC-370 only needs so many, they must work on something. The best thing would be PiPs for the existing product line if there isn't anything new.

That is a dramatic cut in headcount as Embraer is staffed for rapid aircraft design. I haven't yet, but the conference call is ominous:

https://www.fool.com/earnings/call-tran ... nings.aspx

This is a tough 2 to 3 years ahead.

Lightsaber
Winter is coming.
 
Oykie
Posts: 1967
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:21 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:41 pm

EMBSPBR wrote:
Back to topic:
On the part of Embraer, there will be no new projects within a minimum period of 5 years or until the aviation sector recovers at pre-pandemic levels.
And there will certainly not be an "adjusted" E175-E2 to be an E170-E2!
Period.


The U.S. domestic market is maybe 2/3 of the total E1 170/175 marked. Since the E175-E2 is too heavy for the by far biggest marked, it is a missed opportunity. I understand that with 159 on order for the 175-E1 Embraer is not in a hurry to replace the E1, bur eventually Embraer will need to find a way to replace within scope, or other companies will replace the Embraer.

The current E175-E2 would work well on more of Wideroe´s routes, and I hope that they will eventually buy one. Unsure why they have not ordered more. The E190-E2 they have are really cool :D
Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
 
Superboi
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:16 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:32 am

EMBSPBR wrote:
FiscAutTecGarte wrote:
Tells us how you feel. C'mon.... Boeing is in no position to give Embraer 4 Billion dollars and you know it. Boeing was negotiating with Embraer in good faith. However, you will agree that Aviation has changed significantly in the last 6 months and has been particularly rough on Boeing for 20 months (self inflicted yes, but very real).
Back on topic:


We have a phrase in Portuguese to define this:
"little flour, my porridge first" !!!
And, if you really want to know how I feel, I feel much better and happier now that the JV has not taken place ...
Boeing is in worse shape than before the pandemic, and I am not just talking about the financial aspect:
MAX saga with heavy order cancellations, program delays, reduced workforce and production, etc ...
It will take longer for Boeing to recover than Embraer itself ...

Back to topic:
On the part of Embraer, there will be no new projects within a minimum period of 5 years or until the aviation sector recovers at pre-pandemic levels.
And there will certainly not be an "adjusted" E175-E2 to be an E170-E2!
Period.


Do you have any infor if Air Peace EMB195 E2 has started test flights?
 
VV
Posts: 1860
Joined: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:03 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:21 am

How many E2 has Embraer delivered this year?

How many E175 (E1) have they delivered this year?
 
Senti69
Posts: 4
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2012 12:19 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:23 am

Wondering if anyone has info regarding start of production on KLM Cityhopper's first E195-E2?
Sources tell me that the E2 simulator has arrived at KLM's training facility in Amsterdam quite some while ago..
 
User avatar
lightsaber
Moderator
Posts: 20265
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:44 am

Oykie wrote:
EMBSPBR wrote:
Back to topic:
On the part of Embraer, there will be no new projects within a minimum period of 5 years or until the aviation sector recovers at pre-pandemic levels.
And there will certainly not be an "adjusted" E175-E2 to be an E170-E2!
Period.


The U.S. domestic market is maybe 2/3 of the total E1 170/175 marked. Since the E175-E2 is too heavy for the by far biggest marked, it is a missed opportunity. I understand that with 159 on order for the 175-E1 Embraer is not in a hurry to replace the E1, bur eventually Embraer will need to find a way to replace within scope, or other companies will replace the Embraer.

The current E175-E2 would work well on more of Wideroe´s routes, and I hope that they will eventually buy one. Unsure why they have not ordered more. The E190-E2 they have are really cool :D

Actually, the US market is 75% of the E-170/175 market:
https://www.airfleets.net/exploit/production-e170.htm

581 of 769 active aircraft. All due to the top five operators being US regionals.

There won't be much action in this size for years, but with the volume market being within scope, someone will eventually fill the niche.

Lightsaber
Winter is coming.
 
inkjet7
Posts: 179
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:32 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:37 am

Senti69 wrote:
Wondering if anyone has info regarding start of production on KLM Cityhopper's first E195-E2?
Sources tell me that the E2 simulator has arrived at KLM's training facility in Amsterdam quite some while ago..


On Dutch aviation website scamble.nl (in the community praethuys KLM thread) user Nemaco stated that three or maybe more of the first deliveries would replace 737-700's coming off lease during spring 2021. Deliveries could even be expedited to enable this. Before Covid-19 the 195's would only replace 17 of the E190's.
 
Someone83
Posts: 4902
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:47 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:18 am

Skyliner claims first E195-E2 (wrongly listed as a E190-E2) was delivered to Air Peace yesterday. Although I haven't seen an actual delivery flight?

Embraer 190 -E2 190.20039 5N-BYF Air Peace delivery 24sep20 SJK-REC
 
Superboi
Posts: 46
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:16 am

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:27 am

Someone83 wrote:
Skyliner claims first E195-E2 (wrongly listed as a E190-E2) was delivered to Air Peace yesterday. Although I haven't seen an actual delivery flight?

Embraer 190 -E2 190.20039 5N-BYF Air Peace delivery 24sep20 SJK-REC


Great
 
User avatar
CarbonFibre
Posts: 725
Joined: Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:02 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:54 am

Skyliner also have Wideroe LN-WEX as returned to lessor. Also wrong, I presume.
 
Someone83
Posts: 4902
Joined: Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:47 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 am

CarbonFibre wrote:
Skyliner also have Wideroe LN-WEX as returned to lessor. Also wrong, I presume.


Yes and no...

This was leased from Embraer (I think) to Widerøe as extra capacity during fall 2019. But was returned from Widerøe late 2019. But seems it was never re-registered. From what I know, it has been stored by Embraer in Portugal since late 2019, but was now flown to the US
 
User avatar
lightsaber
Moderator
Posts: 20265
Joined: Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:55 pm

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2020

Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:23 pm

Embraer delivered 28 aircraft in the 3rd quarter:
https://seekingalpha.com/news/3623609-e ... ery-report

21 business jets
--2 Large executive jets
--19 Light executive jets
7 Commercial jets

This is better than I expected.

Lightsaber
Winter is coming.

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos